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kettykin: The Victors were Soviet Union and Britain who came into the scene to maintain their hold on Africa

[size=20]"The Winner Takes It All"[/size]
I don't wanna talk
About things we've gone
through
Though it's hurting me
Now it's history
I've played all my cards
And that's what you've done too
Nothing more to say
No more ace to play
The winner takes it all
The loser's standing small
Beside the victory
That's her destiny
I was in your arms
Thinking I belonged there
I figured it made sense
Building me a fence
Building me a home
Thinking I'd be strong there
But I was a fool
Playing by the rules
The gods may throw the dice
Their minds as cold as ice
And someone way down here
Loses someone dear
The winner takes it all
The loser has to fall
It's simple and it's plain
Why should I complain?
But tell me does she kiss
Like I used to kiss you?
Does it feel the same
When she calls your name?
Somewhere deep inside
You must know I miss you
But what can I say?
Rules must be obeyed
The judges will decide
The likes of me abide
Spectators of the show
Always staying low
The game is on again
A lover or a friend
A big thing or a small
The winner takes it all
I don't wanna talk
If it makes you feel sad
And I understand
You've come to shake my hand
I apologize
If it makes you feel bad
Seeing me so tense
No self-confidence
But you see
The winner takes it all
The winner takes it all...

kettykin: at least they fought to defend themselves rather than wait for their late ancestors to defend them

and who won?

slimghost: @Tolexander

Can you now answer my question now sir?

since you have answered the question to your fallacious statement what is now the essence of disturbing me with red herrings on the thread which is meant to be a criticism on achebe's work.

slimghost: I replied you that music is not all about Lyrics but that the particular genre we are discussing is. HIP-HOP is 90 percent all about lyrical content.

show me where you said so.
you and who are discussing that? You were just beating round the bush.

slimghost: So project depicts good musical knowledge? DAMN IT! . Mr Ignoramus, Project Fame is a talent reality show which the judges have their own criteria of judging the winner. We are discussing a HIP-HOP artiste winning a GRAMMY. Whats the co-relation? You obviously know nothing about music!

you have problems with basic argument.
Cited project fame, just to let you know you need learning some things about their professional judges invited to make comments on their observations on some talents that are in the competitions.

slimghost: WTF is this? I have been into music way back before you listened to your first HIP-HOP song. What exactly are you trying to prove by yanking that ish off Wiki? I have told you to use your own standard of a good music of musician to answer my question, but because you lack the basic knowledge of MUSIC, you ran off to Wiki to yank off some senseless lines. Am done with you sir!

you are too unprofessional for me to handle.
You said better lyricist and i asked you if music is all about lyrics before jumping about.

slimghost: Shut it, Mr Ignoramus. Nobody gives you a grammy for your sound system as an artiste (that goes to the producer). What matters is Lyrical content,general performance of a song or an album, e.t.c. Now, Since you guys are trying to opine that since Soyinka won a Nobel prize and Achebe didnt, he is now better than Achebe. Wont it be appropriate to say that since Nelly has won a Grammy and Nas hasn't, that he is better than Nas?

stop exhibiting ignorance! So sound system is not also part of music.
Why are you so unstable.
You said a 'better lyricst' and not musician.
Stand on your ground and stop messing around.

slimghost: Sure its not, but i know Nelly is not a "classical" musician. He is a HIP HOP artiste and HIP HOP is all about Lyrics. Stop embarrassing yourself sir!

elements of hip hop from wikipaedia

It is characterized
by four distinct
elements, all of which
represent the different
manifestations of the
culture: rap music
(aural), turntablism or
"DJing" (aural), breaking
(physical) and graffiti
art (visual). Despite their
contrasting methods of
execution,

Had you been into music, you would understand what am saying and stopped this argumentun ad ignorantium.
Watch programs like project fame and co to know somethings about music.
It is always stressfull arguing with the laymen cos it only takes the professionals to understand the terms.

slimghost: Please all the Yorubas in the house, Am still waiting for someone to tell me how Nelly is a better Lyricist or Artiste than Nas! DAYOKUNU,EKO ILE and co....am waiting!

stop demonstrating ignorance. Music is not all about lyrics.

phantom: you obviously have no idea of hiphop so i ll forgive you.@slimghost ...this might pose a problem for you.he doesnt even know hiphop talk more of what your trying to make him see.i suggest you drop your standard a bit.if possible draw pictures for him.

what is this stray goat?

Is only hip pop genre of music?

slimghost: Am asking you sir, since winning an award now equates being the best in your field! Do you now see how foolish your people's argument is?

you are just billions of aeronautical miles out of the point.
The argument about winning a nobel prize in ones field such as literature considers your dexterity with all the elements of literature.
While winning a grammy also entails your dexterity with elements of music such as vocal dexterity, lyrics, sound system, bla bla bla . . even ones attitude.

slimghost: If you want to. Just answer my question sir!

hello! You said a man couldn't win the grammy despite the fact that he was considered the best lyricist. Just tell me if winning a grammy stands on how lyrical the music is. Basic!

[quote author=Son-Of-El]@tolexander, whether you want to explode or not, awo is only respected in nigeria and worshipped in yorubaland. He was an ethnic champion. As for your biased take on equiano, it only shows what envy can turn one to- a tribal jingoist. Equiano's abolitionist legacy through his writings stands tall, don't cry okay? He is, like achebe, proudly igbo.[/quote]oh boy! You aren't in the league of people i can explode to. Just try to listen and learn.
You brought up the issue of awo not being given any foreign tribute when he died. Just tell me where you were when he died to know this.

Nobody is castingating the abolutionist mind and intention of Gustavus Vassa. He had done his best. Does that mean the truth shouldn't be verified?

[quote author=Son-Of-El]@tolexander, did you also know it was said that it may have a mistake from the birth registrar, or still, equiano's arrangement. Even if so, his NATIVE ORIGIN should not be disputed. He says he is igbo, why are some bigots in NL sulking at this?[/quote]mr man! His date of birth isn't important and relevant to the criticism.
Why the debate was his slavery experience across the atlantic.

[quote author=Son-Of-El]@ola johnson, the world pays it's tribute to achebe. Awo never received such because he is an ethnic champion. Omatseye in his lifetime, will never stand shoulder to shoulder with achebe. As for you, go to hell.[/quote]where were you when Chief Obafemi Jeremiah died in May 9, 1987 to know if there were no world tributes to him?
Probably your mum hadn't even gat a bra size!

[quote author=Son-Of-El]When will people stop being stupid. A man is telling you his origin, you say he is not sure. Birthplace is different from origin. Equiano says he is of igbo origin and some people are trying to dispute HIS OWN ACCOUNT. If you heard read works about him, including the wikipedia FULL DISCUSSION about more facts weighing his birthplace account to be true, jealous imbeciles like you will just shut up. @caustical, you are from hutu tribe not yoruba, disprove me since i know you better than yourself...fool.[/quote]Vincent Carretta wasn't arguing if Gustavus Vassa had his origin in alaigbo or not.
What he was arguing is that he was probably born in south carolina.
And if he was born in south carolina, can you now imagine what will be the story of how his sister and him were transported across the atlantic to slavery?

Little wonder why the party hasn't been able to grow pass its region of origin.

9ja voice: God pls take us out from this pit call naija.
pls make those who love one naija to remain in it without a door of escape.

we the igbos need out by your grace Amen

yes nnamdi azikwe shouldn't find a door to escape even after death? That is very bad cursing your founding father!

@topic!
Those are men that have the courage to defend their territories and don't even mind dying for the territory, not bolting to that coast of many ivories.

2face Idibia, What a weapon of mass baby production!
The guy is turning to the father of many nations of our generation.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]Onye ofe, why did you reswallow your vomit. You deleted the senselessness you posted earlier for this after rediscovering yourself. Ndi ofe no dey shame sha[/quote]i went to add somethings to it were alaso! Mistakenly pressed on modify. Go and revisit it.

Quite unfortunate you are always deficient of knowledge!

[quote author=nnenna.1]The award is selected in Norway on behalf of Sweden. It is also awarded in Norway as well.[/quote][size=20pt]NOMINATION AND SELECTION OF LITERATURE LAURATES?

I didn't say for peace o![/size]

I think i can now understand these people and their mentality to an extent now.

Chinua Achebe criticized Joseph Conrad work, the heart of darkness. His people are praising him. Little do they know that whatever you sow, you will reap.

Always giving excuse for every failure. Like genocide, starvation, blockade, they dont like us. Achebe didn't win the nobel prize, they blame it on achebe's criticism of the Joseph Conrad's word.
When will you people learn to acquire wisdom from your downfall and stop blaming the downfall on anybody.

[quote author=nnenna.1]Lol...like it or not, Achebe is the father of African literature and has made vaster literary impressions than any other African writer.

Thesaurus impressionists and Norwegian politics notwithstanding.

Adieu![/quote]The award is done in a different country from Norway. It is done in Sweden, though they are both scandinavians!

slimghost: Please answer my question. use your own standard of good music to judge!

should i just believe your own summary of music is base on lyrics?

[size=20]Br[/size]- indeed.

Aluta continua, victoria acerta!

[quote author=oily-Yoruba] Sharap dia! Battyman Yoruba are incestuous. What proof does a book monkey like you have that one of these women aren't related to this sex-offender of a man? Battyman![/quote]what is this animal trying to mutate to human being?

slimghost: Please what is it won on? Enlighten us! Remember i asked him, is NELLY a better artiste or Lyricist? Even when he went platinum, they still refused to give him one. Now answer my question

let me know what you understand about music in its real sense?

Tilli said that the suspects
were apprehended between
March 4 and April 2

liberty300: Did it say this happened on March 4?...why the old news bro?

so far you have hairs on your armpit just like you have them on your head doesn't mean you should use you armpit to reason!

slimghost: Now let me break it down for you.
Nasir Jones was rated by BBC as the "greatest lyricist of all time" and we all know dude is a multi-platinum selling artiste. Shockingly, Nas hasnt won the GRAMMY before but NELLY has. Now Mr OLODO, is NELLY a better artiste or Lyricist than NAS?

is grammy won on music all about lyrics?

ichidodo: SINCE YOU HAVE OPENED THE DOOR, LET US ENTER. WHO WAS THE FATHER OF CULTISM?

Mr Man! Stop publicizing ignorance!
So far Wole Soyinka organised a confraternity meant he started it to perpetuate the evils they are committing today?

God created man to serve him, man turned out to be another thing from what God created man to do which is evil.
Does that mean God intentionally created human being to be devil? And does that mean God is the father of devil?

nwando: Who has heard any of those works besides people in your village ?
That is my point
[size=28pt]That a group of white men in Sweden sat and gave out an award does not mean you are the best in what you do
Einstein did not receive a Nobel either but yasser Arafat did
Go figure[/size]

you are on the verge of perishing. My people are perishing cos they lack knowledge!
Please stop substituting your cerebrum for cerebellum

gbanikiti: what kind of se.xual satisfaction can a 71 years old man give abeg? Anyway, money dey talk sha.

eh! No dey talk that one o. The enjoyement no sabi age at all.