₦airaland Forum

Azmanaty:
Keep contradicting urself. Are they feeding fat on Nigeria money?? Yes or NO?

I dont know but since he's a nigerian politician, most likely...the reason why i said he may not be using government money is that a Dubai party is too small for them to spend government money on....u get it?

Azmanaty:
Rich from state funds right??
Tell us another story

Yen yen yen....do u know who the gbajabiamila's are? I'm not doubting that they know enjoy government money, but before government, u think they're average Nigerians?

Hhansome:
Who do we believe then?

That nigars family is very rich.

Is this se

Lol...the judgement that removed oshiomole and the one that reinstated him are both trash.....A state high court can't decide the matter of another state...except in some instances, if this qualifies for that instance, I don't know....and asking him to step aside pending the determination of his suit is another weird decision...more like asking a governor to step aside pending the end of his tribunal case.

Simbrixton:
hahahaha akoko edo are yoruba people anyway esan people are yorubas dat were under d bini empire

dude technically bini and yoruba are dsame people by dna na politics separate us

for example my surname is igun my ancestors migrated from bini to ife and we nationalised dere things are only complex now becuse of politics

i think you and Born2Breed are actually kinda right. The Yoruba tribe located in Edo state is a minority tribe. Unlike the Yorubas in other states, the Yorubas in Edo state are politically and economically disadvantaged. The Yoruba tribe in Edo is located in a part of Edo that is close to Ore in Ondo state. Although these people speak the Yoruba language, their dialect is influenced by the Bini language.

Simbrixton:
wanted to quote d moniker debating you naijaking wareva

That guy is dishing out twisted history that never existed. the thing dey give me headache sef.

Simbrixton:
mr igbo we dan hear you haha opc and amotekun is here to stay ngwanu
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr itshekiri akoko edo kwara nd six locl govt in kogi are all yoruba territory nd will be protected by our army in waiting

igbo people stop being slaves of the fulanis

i don't get you, why did i become an igbo man?

NaijirianKing:
When we speak of control and power, then we have to acknowledge that the Northern elements controls what happens in Illorin and by default Kwara.

There are historical reasons for this, but this is just a fact that the political direction of the city and the state is controlled from the Northern elements among the society.

This Northern control has shaped Kwara into a state very different from Oyo, Lagos, or Ogun.

Let's not rewrite history, culturally Illorin is very much a Northern state.

Chai, u're committing so many historical blunders mahn... I don't even know where to start from.

NaijirianKing:
When we speak of control and power, then we have to acknowledge that the Northern elements controls what happens in Illorin and by default Kwara.

There are historical reasons for this, but this is just a fact that the political direction of the city and the state is controlled from the Northern elements among the society.

This Northern control has shaped Kwara into a state very different from Oyo, Lagos, or Ogun.

Let's not rewrite history, culturally Illorin is very much a Northern state.

Culture means a way of life, hope you know that. I still went to offa last December so I'm pretty sure about these facts. they have an emir which is the only thing you've been hammering on.........Trying to paint a narrative to explain your point of view will only drive you away from the truth. why you adding so much irrelevant picture though, I'm curious?
This is the fact...70% of Kwara indigenes, speak Yoruba, bear Yoruba names and surnames, greet like Yorubas. the hausa's see their way of worship as being different, exactly similar behavioral patterns with next to no resemblance with their northern folks, except in instances where Yorubas and our northern brothers have similar behaviors... Your fact are weird......as for the issue of Fulani's dropping their culture for those of the indigenes of where they're settling, it's absolutely not true. the natural law of culture dominance suggests that in an area where they're multiple cultures, the dominant culture will eventually prevail, that's why minor tribes lose their culture fast, the Fulani are nomadic in nature, and as such they tend to be everywhere but nowhere. Presumptive knowledge is bad bro. Again, a fulani man does not decide to pick the culture of where they go, it's due to the dominance of a much larger culture. hope u get. very few were in Kwara, as such the very few fulanis lost their culture not even to the yoruba's but to the hausa's.....On the control of power, Kwara state had always maintained some level of independence, except in these last two elections where they were influenced by Lagos politics. Kwara is not influenced or control by the north, in fact, they're one of the few north central states that are not.

NaijirianKing:
To an extent yes and no.

With Fulani, when they invade or take over an area they often times use the language of the conquered people. This is why many speak Hausa as a first language even though they are not Hausa. In fact, they use Hausa so much that many have even abandoned speaking their native tongue after a generation or two.

This is why language isn't a true marker of tribe when it comes to the Fulani.

Back to the Ilorin issue, it is not possible to say that the Fulani changed their language, culture, tradition, pastoralism, to embrace farming, Yoruba language, Yoruba way of marriage, Yoruba dressing, gave all their villages yoruba names...common,.....the core Fulani's migrate a lot, and yes there are some in kwara, if you've ever been to kwara you 'll understand. Fufulde which is the language of the Fulani's is widely spoken were they settle in Jos, kano, katsina, sokoto.etc. its not spoken in kwara because they,'re by far a minority tribe...in fact their are more Nupes in kwara than Fulani.

Pedagogueeye:
interlocutory injection! By the same court of coordinate jurisdiction. So which one would be obeyed now.

Anyone he wants

NaijirianKing:
Kwara is not part of SW, they are not Yoruba, language doesn't make tribe, otherwise we English speaking Nigerians would be English.

Some Yoruba migrated their, but it's not a Yoruba state, otherwise it would be in the SW.

Native language, culture and way of life doesn't make a tribe? Em, geographical location does..so many wrong info in your story....

NaijirianKing:
You're correct, Afonja caused confusion and betrayed his blood. A sad tale and a lesson to others to never betray your blood.

Yes, this is true, but the Sokoto Caliphate would've conquered the entirety of the Oyo Kingdom as Oyo was in a weak dynastic period plagued by many internal problems.

The point is that what happened in Kwara would have happened in the entire SW as well if the Brittish didn't show up and start fighting the Sokoto Caliphate.

Ibadan defeated fulani, not the British.so many loopholes to tell a narrative.

NaijirianKing:
Not entirely. The place was founded by Yorubas from the then Oyo Kingdom, however these original inhabitants were displaced by the new arrivals, those being the Fulanis and other groups from the Northern part of Nigeria who accompanied the Fulani in the raids.

That's why those people are now an amalgamation of different groups who adopted Yoruba as a lingua franca of communication. However, not everyone in that geographical area is a Yoruba person.

That's why they voted to stay with their brothers in the North when they had the chance to cast ballots as to which region they would belong to.

Okay, but firstly, Fulani's didn't invade Ilorin, the founder of Ilorin was a general from Oyo empire called afonja......the British invasion of Nigeria was in 1901..the indigenes of kwara were never displaced.
It was the headquarters of an Oyo General, Afonja, who rebelled against the empire and helped bring about its collapse with the assistance of the Fulani. The rebellion was powered by Nupe and Bou Moslem slaves.Afonja had been assisted by Salih Janta, also called Shehu Alimi, a leader of the local Fulani. In 1824, Afonja was assassinated and Salih's son Abdulsalam became Emir.

NaijirianKing:
You have to understand the Fulani man, anywhere he settles he takes on a bit of the culture and language of the host community.

In fact, in the core North some Fulani have become so "Hausanized" that they are almost indistinguishable from the indigenous Hausa people. It's a common occurrence.

You're absolutely right....and to honor their neighbors, they decided to make call where they settled as Ilorin...I get absolutely.

NaijirianKing:
It's not about the name of the village or city. If an Ijaw man moves to a Yoruba area and adopts it as his village, that doesn't mean that the Ijaw man is Yoruba.

Sarah even said it.

"My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam."

He is a Fulani, many Fulani are settlers. They're not truly from the place they "settled."

Okay, so you're saying that Yoruba's own Ilorin, then Fulani's came to join them there.

Born2Breed:
Don't the Akoko deceive you.

Yup they speak Benin.

Alagboo:
[s]It was an Elderly man from Kwara State that told me,
You know I served in Kwara State, Bacita precisely,
So I'm acting based on information (Right Source) if You Know You Know

I give up, you're right...I'm saying the same thing....bukola is a nupe name....even saraki's family house that's called ile arugbo (meaning old man house in Yoruba) was actually called that by Yoruba media.....you're 100% correct. thanks for the info.

NaijirianKing:
Abubakar Saraki is a Fulani man who speaks Yoruba, the same way the Buhari is a Fulani man that's speaks Hausa.

Enough of this oversimplification and tribalism. They're Fulani men.

I give up...Okay...bukola means good boy in Fulani, and the father that is nicknamed baba oloye by kwarans is also from Fulani....in fact baba oloye means the Godfather in hausa...you're 100% right.

sotall:
You mean Esan people are Yorubas?


Wonders shall never end

Esan people ain't Yoruba, dong mind him...he don misyarn.

NaijirianKing:
Kwara is not part of SW, they are not Yoruba, language doesn't make tribe, otherwise we English speaking Nigerians would be English.

Some Yoruba migrated their, but it's not a Yoruba state, otherwise it would be in the SW.

Damn it...I give up....even the villages have Yoruba name, they don't even speak two languages ...only Yoruba, towards the northern side is where the hausa's are.....the village of saraki has a Yoruba name. See, I'm tired tribalistic arguments jarey.

Alagboo:
[s]You Lied!

Kwara State is NUPE Land and NUPE is Kwara State, and there's nothing anyone can do about it

Land Grabbers Association Of Nigeria!!!

LOL, even bukola saraki is a nupe man, right?

Born2Breed:
There is no yoruba LGA or yoruba speaking LGA in Edo state.


There is also no ibo speaking LGA in Edo state.

Akoko edo in edo state speaks yoruba.

Lostz:
his replacement will still come from Edo . that position was zoned to the South South. he can only act for few months.


timi Frank did not become APC National Publicity Secretary(spokesman) when Lia Mohammed got appointed as minister

In this instance, oshiomole wasn't removed, he was asked to step aside pending the determination of the law suit against him. and its likely that he gets a stay of execution from the appeal court next week.

Mayordavisevent:
There are just 45% yoruba in kwara. Others hausas/fulanis.... From baruba, barunti, lafiaji and Co check them

hehe 45% ...wetin i no go see for nairaland......There are so many sub-tribes of yoruba in kwara, its like saying that the ijebus aint yoruba.... That's why the o to ge slang could work, no exaggeration, i'll say 70% yorubas.....if its 45% the word o to ge, which means "it is enough" cant be a slang to dispose saraki.

technicallyrich:
u dey fuk up.
I am an ijaw man and when the time come yorubas will fight ijaws to take lagos and ondo state,a originally we own those two state.
And can you imagine only one tribe fighting ijaw.
That will be akin to mass suicide.and dont forget other of our brothers from ss/se will gladly join us to fight.

SMH

Salvador1:
land grabbers

Nah me Bleep up wey dey argue with illiterates.

There problem....

If its only your money that attract babes, u need to step up a little.....even a goat that has money will attract babes.

RisenPhoenix:
Then you wasted your money by eventually opening your wallet and destroyed your own strategy by spoiling them.

You are only half right in that comment. While I totally agree that money should be made for one's own sake, it does not take away from your self esteem to have women attracted to you because of the money. In fact, all women are attracted to money, but you just don't have to spend on them to have them. Just having the money is enough attraction. If you start spending on girlfriends after sex, they will quickly start putting you on a ration and playing you while using you as a maga, because then, your commitment to the relationship will be more than theirs and they will know it. You have to hold the promise of spending over their heads. That's when you get to tap their deepest resources.



True. Making money with yourself in mind is the correct path. But women are still a side benefit of making money.



Reality proves you wrong. Money will bring you women unless you badly destroy your game. Those weren't rich guys. They were guys with a few bucks to throw around at the moment. Women can tell rich from show off.

Hmm

Abba kyari, is that you?