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UKWUANI HAS BEEN RECOGNISE AS A PEOPLE WITH DISTINCT DIALECT THAT FALLS WITHIN IGBOID GROUP AND THAT IS NOT DEBATABLE, NATIONS ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR PROGRESS NOT BEEN SEPERATIST, LOOK AT EU TODAY, THE MORE UNIFIED WE ARE THE MORE WE MAKE OUR CASE, NOBODY IS ROBING UKWUNAI, MBAISE,IKWERRE,OBOLO, EZZA MAN OF HIS UNIQUENESS SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE OF RECOGNITION.

donshaddow:
If the Urhobos, isokos, Itsekiri and some other minor ethnic group should be recognised. Why not the Ukwaunis... Must you insert us inside the central igbos..

Well, my argument is for the purpose of liberating and recognising the Ukwuani clan as an ethnic group.

Look at this so called Biafra map!!! Why was Ukwuani omitted...

We number more than 7million.

African peoples have long relied on oral accounts to learn about their past. But the down side of this tradition remains its vulnerability to embellishment. The absence of written records, passage of time and the hunger for greatness have made the method the most unreliable. Egypt is one good example. In the face of mounting evidences, the archaeological findings in Egypt have continued to generate intense racial politics. In the same vein, the quest for political and social mobility in Igboland has progressively turned her history into a subject of differing interpretations.

Addressing the historical factors that shaped the modern Igbo was vital for the knowledge of not only the present and future generation of Ndigbo, but for none Igbos alike. Thus, modern day discussions on this particular subject, for posterity's sake, should be devoid of politics.

In that context, to divorce either the Igala or the Benin influence from the modern Igbo cultural evolution would be a travesty of history. The evidence of the cross cultural mix appears to be genuine. Thus, the debate should instead focus on the extent of each one of these rich cultures on the other, especially the issue of settler and aborigine in the western Igbo region, and as well as in the East. This particular aspect has not only heightened the interest of eastern Igbos, It has equally generated a quiet acrimony amongst the western Igbos. I mean those of them who had remained steadfast with their Igbo roots, and the others who would defend their claim of Benin ancestry vigorously. The future implication of this situation in the context of Nigeria's contemporary politics is what I'll comment on later in this thread.

According to several sources, Igbo people evolved over a long period of 4000 BC to 500 AD in Igboland through waves of migrations. Oral accounts stated that her northern neighbours migrated into her heartland in search of fertile land and rich marine life. The majority of which were Igalas. The Igalas settled amongst the locals east of the Niger, altering the historiography of many towns in today's Anambra state. Affected also, were parts of the present Oshimmili local government in Delta state.

Anambra state is of course 96 percent indigenous Igbo, however, there are traces of Igala history in some communities of the following local government councils of the state--Ayamelum, Ihiala, Oyi, Awka North, Aniocha, Dunukofia, Onitsha North, Ogbaru, Anambra East, Njikoka, Anambra west, Onitsha South, and Awka South. The migration did not only affect the area known today as Anambra state, a sizeable portion of Enugu state's communities have Igala ancestry as well. Thus, it would be right to call it a reverse migration, occurring about eight hundred years after which Eri was reported to have founded the modern Igbo nation with its set of unique religious doctrine. It was also a period one of his sons, Onoja, was said to have departed northwards and founded the Igala land.

Eri's children were listed as Nri-Ifikuanim Menri, Agulu, Onoja (founder of Igala), Ogbodudu, Onogu and his only daughter, Iguedo. Together and respectively, his off-springs were instrumental to founding the towns of Aguleri, Igbariam, Ogbunike, Nando, Nri, Enugu-Ukwu, Nteje, Enugu-Agidi, Oraeri and so many other settlements in the East and West of the Niger. It is indeed difficult to draw a line between Igbo and Igala history.

Having said that, P.E. OKWOLI, a native Igalan, and renowned historian stated that in the ancient times, new rulers from the Igbo communities of Igala ancestry must go to Igala to be taught kingship rituals and ceremonials. Although he mentioned that Igala and UMUERI towns are related, but added that UMUERI needed not to go to Igala for any sort of tutelage. An exemption that might explain Nri-Ifikuanim and Agulu's seniority to their younger brother Onoja, the founder of Igala.

P.E. Okwoli further stated that "In Nsukka and the rest of Igboland, there is a popular masquerade, which is called Agabaidu, and this is a significant cultural point. In Nsukka, the word Agabidu is used to refer to an eminent man, while it is used to refer to a King in Igala. Also Asadu is the word for kingmaker among the Igbo, while it takes the form of Achadu among the Igala. There are some other words which are signs of close cultural ties shared by both Igala and the Igbo. These include Atama, which means Chief Priest in both languages. Among the Igala, Atta means father, among the Igbo it refers to the eldest person. Ajogwu means warrior among the Igala and the Igbo"

The town of Asaba shares similar history with those others in Anambra and Enugu states. Before its "modern founder", Nnebuisi migrated from Nteje in the Anambra region to join his Igalla father who was a resident, Asaba was aboriginally inhabited by Ugboma and his lineage. Ugboma was a farmer from AWKA in the present Anambra state. (H. Vaux, 1934), (Asabausa.com). The aboriginal group assimilated those of Nnebisi and vice versa, and the refugees from different parts of Benin Empire. Nnebisi eventually renamed the town AHABAM, also meaning "I've chosen" In the Igbo language. Thus, Asaba's historical trajectory, geographical location, culture and language constitute the bulk of its overarching Igbo credentials.

On the other hand, during the course of Benin Empire's military expansion, some of the descendants of prince Odigbo of Nri who founded Ogwashi Uku, migrated back East, Anambra region precisely, and co-founded the settlement known today as Nsugbe. Their village, Umu-Ogwari, installed the first Obi of Nsugbe in about 1550 AD. Obi Ofili, the last king, was dethroned by the British in 1875.

Quite often, it is the Benin theory of Onitsha history that is widely circulated in the media, especially in the internet. Other accounts of Onitsha history would suggest that Onitsha is a federation of differing lineages, arriving at different times in history. Again, Igala is one of them. And what could be the most revealing part of Onicha history is the IGUEDO factor. The Iguedo factor is one of the ancient folklores in the communities of Anambra region of Anambra state. This is a rural and agrarian region that would gain nothing from claiming Onicha affinity. But, again, there is an Igbo proverb that says " the direction in which a crying baby points his fingers, would either indicate the location of his mother or father"

Their versions of the tale were though inconsistent like all others, but collectively, what was clear and consistent in their various versions were that the beginning of Onicha was not outside Igboland, and that the lady, IGUEDO, was central in the evolution of Onicha. The folklore states that Onicha descended from Iguedo, the daughter of Eri. The historical lady is still highly revered in some parts of the town. The Iguedo clan is made up of the neighbouring towns of Ogbunike, Nando, Umuleri and Awkuzu. Onitsha is geographically contiguous to Nsugbe, an UMUERI town, and shares dialectical similarities with these communities.

The people of Ogbunike reported that as recent as the1940s, Onitsha indigenes traditionally joined the Umu-Iguedo clan to celebrate "Olili-nne-Iguedo"; an annual festival that brings the descendants of Iguedo together in the town of Nando. The elders of Ogbunike community made this public in an explanatory letter to the Resident Officer, Onitsha province, dated 12th October, 1932. The signatories insisted that Onicha was an off-spring of Iguedo. However, the District Officer, on 29th November 1932, after consultations, replied thus:

"The Umu-Iguedo (sic) Towns certainly have an Onitsha relationship---but with only one quarter thereof---that is, OGBOLI. It would not be practicable to divorce OGBOLI from the rest of Onitsha and I do not think that Mr. Bridges has recommended this....."

This account, however, might be disputed in some quarters in Onicha today, even in Ogboli. But an account of this nature, that comes from neighbouring communities that have long existed before Benin's influence on Onicha, cannot be totally dismissed. Of note, is the import of the current Nri Kingdom, which cited the town of Onitsha as one spot

of her ancient diaspora settlements.

While not dismissing the totality of Benin's influence on Onicha, research of Onitsha families reveals the presence of unrelated bloodlines that today appear as members of the same family. There are two types of such bloodlines. The first type consists of families that have established their own autonomy after having constructed mythical genealogies, including inventing nonexistent offspring for the founder, to pass themselves off as part of the direct line of descent. The second type consists of families that did not separate from the family into which they had merged. They share the same names and history. It is only during ritual matters, when they are excluded from performing certain rites, that it becomes obvious they are not part of the genealogical line. Investigation often reveals that the latter branches may have been the line of a domestic servant, slave, or an immigrant who lived with the family. (Nkiru Nzegwu, Elizabeth Isichei 1978, 104-107)

Curiously, the only four Ogboli settlements in Igboland have continued to embrace Nri/Eri ancestry. These are the OGBOLI villages of Nkwerre in Imo state, Atuma, Issele-Uku and Igbuzo in Delta state respectively. Infact, the IGUEDO factor is a huge one in that another Onitsha village, UMUIKEM, undisputedly traces their origin to the town of Umuikem in Nando, a member of Umuiguedo clan as well. On the other hand, Olosi and Obi-Ikporo villagers are mostly the descendants of Onitsha daughters married to non-indigenes. Time was, when the matrilocal custom of Onicha mandated non-indigene bridegrooms to settle down in Onitsha with their Onicha brides. An assimilation system known as "Idigbe" or "Mgba" (Nkiru Nzegwu).

On the other hand, the etymological question raised by the existence of Onicha Ezza--Ebonyi state, Onicha Uboma--Imo state, Onicha Nwenkwo--Imo state, Onicha Mbaise--Imo state, Onicha Nweorie---Imo state, Onicha Ngwa--Abia state, Onicha nweafor--Imo state, Onicha Amairi--Imo state, Onicha AmiyiUhu--Abia state etc., would continue to offset the notion that the origin of the word Onicha was outside Igbo-speaking land. What would have made these Onichas in the east to be pronounced and spelt the same way with the other Onichas who claims Benin ancestry, is what many stake holders would be interested to know.

Questions are being asked from both sides of the divide. The present generation are locked in the thinking of what logically can be the truth and what can not in these oral stuffs.

i know but historically they migrated from awkuzu in anambra

Nomswag:
awkuzu is a quarter in obiaruku........is lyk u knw a few place in ukwani

Biko nu umunne, we have a saying in igbo land ..it GOES LIKE THIS....Ife eji abu igbo erika ..is it a proverbial, literary or figurative sayinf, kedu ihe ndi ga eme madu obulu onye igbo ...

but if it is a proverbial saying, please do not interprete it for me, as a pure son of soil , my mum bribe price was useful, she gave birth to 101% IGBOTIC MAN


Biko nu kedu ife ndi eji abu igbo?

dalu rinne, ka anyi tulie okwu....


igbo bu igbo mmamma nu
igbo nwem na ndi nwe..Ekene m


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look into this principle...ihe eji abu igbo erika

Owerri tie George wrapper and have it on top of white shirt with a piece of wrapper on the neck, I was born in owerri and i know it , also in someplaces like ishiagu they have bowler heart, NIGER DELTA is just a political way of messing up people mind, the delta of river niger starts from some part of imo and omambala river even uguta lakes are tributries


these tribes are part of igbo ethnic group from ubani(Bonny) to Igew ocha(PH) to Obigbo to Obolo to Ukwuani na ndi Aboh abikwa tinye ndi enuani delta state na ndi agbaenu Enugu-Anambra axis....


Ihe eji abu igbo erika

soonest:
Niger delta!! Hope you know some part of Abia and even Imo are Niger delta. How do the Igbos dress? Do the igbos have a common dressing? Go to Ndoki in Abia state( Niger delta), they wear bowler hats, tie george wrapper with Niger delta top. Go to Abia north, they dress like akwa ibom people with dat wollen cap(red cap isn't even popular there). So my dear your argument is flawed. You are an ukwuani man no doubt. Nobody is claiming you. Igbos are already too much in number. Peace.

Nna, anyi na amuta ihe ubosi nile, biko gwa anyi the relationship ikwerre na ngwa nwere, odika enweree some reasonable umu ikwerre no ebe a dika hopeathand, he is educated and sounds reasonable but we quarell a lot but i like him


na nye anyi the historical antecedents and correlation between ikwerre,ngwa na ndi ndoki azumini aba


dalu

ChinenyeN:
I see there are people here posting about Ikwerre. Just to inform you all, anyone who tries to tell you about Ikwerre history and origins while excluding Ngwa is being mischievous. But that's a different topic for a different thread, on a different day.

WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD, SOUTH AFRICANS ARE LAZY WANTING AND EXPECTING HANDOUTS FROM GOVERNMENT AND IT IS A GLOBAL THING, THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THAT...

NOW DEAL WITH WHESE STATEMENTS THAT YOUR LEADERS SAY ABOUT YOU


NOBODY CALLS A NIGERIAN LAZY, GLOBALLY WE ARE SMART AND HUTSLING DUDES, EVEN THE WEST RESPECT THE AVERAGE IGBO DUDE AND THE YORUBA BLOKE, THAT IS A FACT. WE AINT SMILLING BE IT INTELLECTUALLY OR PHYSICALLY, EVEN IN CRIME, WE GIVE YOU THE FINEST THAT WE DAZE THE INTERPOLE AND CIA ...SO GIVE IT UP TO US...DO YOU THINK WE ARE THE BIGGEST ECONOMY IN AFRICA BY SITTING AROUND....DUDE WAKE UP


SMELL THE COFFEE


The president said South Africans had started to become lazy since the shackles of apartheid were loosened.

Zuma related an anecdote of a visit he made to an unnamed African country during the liberation struggle, reported Sapa.

"I got there and people were working very slowly, they were not in a rush, and I asked the comrade who was taking me, 'What's happening?'

"He said people don't work fast, people say they are free. The white man has left, they are now free."

Zuma warned that freedom is "not something that is in the air

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Politics/Zuma-complains-about-lazy-South-Africans-20150325


Bapela said this during a visit to traditional leaders and Khoisan representatives in the city.

He also used the opportunity to condemn reported xenophobic attacks as “shameful acts perpetrated against fellow human beings”.

“Jobs that are shunned by South Africans, such as mining, farming and jobs in the hospitality industry are being given to foreign nationals, who are prepared to work hard. South Africans do not want to get their hands dirty and rely on the government to provide them with free houses and free schooling.”

http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/northern-cape/south-africans-a-lazy-bunch-1.1847452#.VToGRKbeEcg

Foreigners are not lazy like you poor South Africans: President Zuma says

"The reality you can't find protests in other places is that there is no hope. When foreigners come to South Africa, because they are not used to government handing [out] things, they get here and see opportunities and thrive," said Zuma.

"Our people are waiting for government. Our people are not used to standing up and doing things. These ones [foreigners] are not expecting any government to do anything so they get here, see opportunities and exploit them. They have taken over your small businesses."

http://www.southafricalatestnews.co.za/news/450-foreigners-are-not-lazy-like-you-poor-south-africans-president-zuma-says.html

Thandolwethu:
I start by imploring you to read this letter with an open and unbiased mind as this will enable you grab the full gist of my message.
I am a full blooded South African, born and bread in Soweto. I have never been to Nigeria and my impression of your Country is formed by the behaviour and actions of the many Nigerians who live in SA and what we hear and read from the media about the goings on in your country.
I deliberately joined Nairaland today as I noted that alot of you are on this Forum hence its a good platform to pass my message. Suffice it to say that i will delete this account after this message. I will read your responses with keen interest.

1. There is no question that there was xenophobic attack on Foreigners in SA in the past 3weeks. What is in doubt is the scale of the attack. I have noted that Nigerians have overtly blown the crises out of proportion by spreading lies and wrong informatiom concerning the crisis. The idea that South Africans are going round SA cities killing, maiming and burning Foreigners is a lie. Only 7 people have been killed so far and of these 7, 3 are south Africans, 2 Ethiopians and 2 Mozambican. The world media is in agreement with these figures. While its 7 lives too many that doesnt give credence to the news going round in Nigeria that we are killing and burning Foreigners. If thats true then there would be more people dead.
STOP BELIEVING WHATYOU READ AND WATCH ON social media as most are lies and fabricated figments of the imaginations of mischievous Nigerians in other to stoke the flame of discord between Nigeria and SA.

2. Why are Nigerians up in arms against SA with xenophobia when the war in Nigeria is far worse than here in SA. Boko haram is killing thousands your people everyday and theres no end in sight meanwhile no Nigerian has been killed in this Xenophobic attack. That is why Nigerians throng our embassies in Lagos and Abuja seeking Visas to come to SA and escape the despicable living conditions in the slums of Nigeria.

3. This recent Xenophobic attack was predicated on the fact that Foreigners commit so much heinous crimes in SA without impunity and we are tired of all these. We have our own criminals here so we cant add more problems from foreigners.
A. NIigerians are the kingpins of drugs killing our children and society. Your brothers drug our girls into prostitution. They con our people with fraud and 419. They hack into our bank accounts stealing millions.

B. Zimbabweans are involved in robberies and car hijackings

C. Mozambicans kill our farmers and take our jobs for peanuts leaving many South Africans jobless

D. Ethiopians and Somalians open shops to do illegal activities and pollute our communities. Theres a Somalian shop in every 2 houses on every street in SA. No Country can allow that.

SA has its own issues but we would like to solve them without the added problems of Foreign crimials.

If you like burn down shoprite and close MTN its your people that will suffer because these companies employ millions of Nigerians. They will simply go jobless.

Thank you

NOW GET OUT OF HERE, YOUR MESSAGE HAS BEEN PASSED BUT IT IS LEFT FOR US EITHER TO TAKE IT OR DUMP IT


I AM DUMPING IT IN THE CANNAL OF BAYELSA AND MIND YOU THE BOKO HARAM IS CAUSED BY STUPIDD NIGERIAN MUSLIMS AND KILLING THEMSELVES, NOT ALL NIGERIAN AND WE CHRISTIANS ARE OKAY, BOKO HARAM IS ONLY IN 200 SQ KILOMETERS


NOW A MESSAGE FOR YOU UBUNTU ZULU PEOPLE, LEARN HOW TO COMPETE AND STOP WHINING LIKE A DOGG IN A HEAT. ITS A CAPITALIST ECONOMY AND A DOG EAT DOG SITUATION, AS OF CRIME, SOUTH AFRICANS LEAD THAT AREA DUE TO INDOLENCY AND DOCILITY SO DEVIL BUILT A WAREHOUSE IN YOUR MIND AND USING YOU AS TOOLS AS YOU PEOPLE AS A WILLING TOOLS TO COMIT CRIMES LIKE EVEN KILLING YOUR OWN LUCKY DUBE YOUR BROTHER THINKING IT WAS A NIGERIAN


NOW ARE NIGERIAN THE CAUSE OF HIV RAVAGING YOUR PEOPLE, YOUR MEN ARE LAZY ALL RECRATION THE GET IS SEXX SEXX SEXX AND THEY DO THAT WITHOUT GOOD DUREX AND THIS IS THE RESULTANT EFFECT

I WILL ADVISE YOU TO RUN TO YOUR MINE AND WORK, THE WHITES ARE RUNNING YOUR ECONOMY, WHAT HAPPENED TO EDUCATION, WHAT HAPPENED TO ENTREPRENUERSHIP, WHAT HAPPENED TO CAN DO SPIRIT, THESE ARE LUXURY THAT YOU CANT AFFORD

NOBODY GIVES IT TO YOU ON A PLATTER, YOU GOTTA WORK YOUR ASSS OUT

Thandolwethu:
I start by imploring you to read this letter with an open and unbiased mind as this will enable you grab the full gist of my message.
I am a full blooded South African, born and bread in Soweto. I have never been to Nigeria and my impression of your Country is formed by the behaviour and actions of the many Nigerians who live in SA and what we hear and read from the media about the goings on in your country.
I deliberately joined Nairaland today as I noted that alot of you are on this Forum hence its a good platform to pass my message. Suffice it to say that i will delete this account after this message. I will read your responses with keen interest.

1. There is no question that there was xenophobic attack on Foreigners in SA in the past 3weeks. What is in doubt is the scale of the attack. I have noted that Nigerians have overtly blown the crises out of proportion by spreading lies and wrong informatiom concerning the crisis. The idea that South Africans are going round SA cities killing, maiming and burning Foreigners is a lie. Only 7 people have been killed so far and of these 7, 3 are south Africans, 2 Ethiopians and 2 Mozambican. The world media is in agreement with these figures. While its 7 lives too many that doesnt give credence to the news going round in Nigeria that we are killing and burning Foreigners. If thats true then there would be more people dead.
STOP BELIEVING WHATYOU READ AND WATCH ON social media as most are lies and fabricated figments of the imaginations of mischievous Nigerians in other to stoke the flame of discord between Nigeria and SA.

2. Why are Nigerians up in arms against SA with xenophobia when the war in Nigeria is far worse than here in SA. Boko haram is killing thousands your people everyday and theres no end in sight meanwhile no Nigerian has been killed in this Xenophobic attack. That is why Nigerians throng our embassies in Lagos and Abuja seeking Visas to come to SA and escape the despicable living conditions in the slums of Nigeria.

3. This recent Xenophobic attack was predicated on the fact that Foreigners commit so much heinous crimes in SA without impunity and we are tired of all these. We have our own criminals here so we cant add more problems from foreigners.
A. NIigerians are the kingpins of drugs killing our children and society. Your brothers drug our girls into prostitution. They con our people with fraud and 419. They hack into our bank accounts stealing millions.

B. Zimbabweans are involved in robberies and car hijackings

C. Mozambicans kill our farmers and take our jobs for peanuts leaving many South Africans jobless

D. Ethiopians and Somalians open shops to do illegal activities and pollute our communities. Theres a Somalian shop in every 2 houses on every street in SA. No Country can allow that.

SA has its own issues but we would like to solve them without the added problems of Foreign crimials.

If you like burn down shoprite and close MTN its your people that will suffer because these companies employ millions of Nigerians. They will simply go jobless.

Thank you

yah, your correct but apart from oral tradition which get distorted along the lines thaere are also clues that can be used to decode the past they are archeological, sociological and linguistic

Even written records can be lost in transit and edited

veuttoutlemonde:
The misrepresentation, misconception or denial that exists in our history has to do with the fact that a our great fore-fathers could not write and keep records. Compare that to other places like Europe, middle east etc. where they have dated literature as far back as 1000 years. This history has been passed on to new generations. Ours is a situation where the history is passed orally. The new generation do not understand what history means, and they choose what to believe or accept. Instead of seeking the knowledge about their history unprejudiced. Many American celebrities go the extra mile to trace their ancestry and when they discover it, it becomes a thing of joy and pride.
There is one human trait that cannot be denied, it is history.

is it true that some part of obiaruku came from awkuzu? just asking cos i have noticed their alignment and similarity


just asking nwanne

Nomswag:
obiaruku

nsogbu adiro....dalu nwanne


what are the specification of the kiakia is it kelebe bottle or schnapps bottle ogo


lol

donshaddow:
You owe me 6 bottles of kai kai....

Nne, kedu ihe m ga ekwu, madu ka ana aria

juo okeipku

asadike:
bikonu, oputara na waawa abughi igbo? Ka oputara na threadia abughi nke igbo ni'le? Bikonu, madu abiana ebe a azo anambra mobu imo. Tonychristopher bia tinye onu n'okwu a

madu ka ana aria

XBLadez:
Atunyerela nnam ahu onu. Agugom nkata ya n'ile na Nairaland. O na akpa agwa ndi ofe mmanu. Adighim sure na o bu onye Igbo self

bigfrancis21:
Which is Nnewi, your dialect right?

Yes

Myiyo or ekete

donshaddow:
You owe me 6 bottles of kai kai....

I love dry gin with okeipku jara eze kaka

bigfrancis21:
Lol. Sieve is 'nyo' in Igbo language.

Myiyo is clearly an Igbo variation of 'nyo'.

The abiriba people of Abia state have some words of Ibibio origin in their dialect, sharing similar boundaries with the Ibibio, yet they acknowledge they are Igbo.

We caall myiyo also

Pharoh:
This topic will never end when people don't take time to understand each other and respect the wishes of other people.

To my Ukwuani peeps, ukwuani is igboid together with other related family members because of similarities in our languages. Each group is unique and independent of each other but all together in one family that could be called igboid or igbo. It is the choice of every group to go about their unique names or choose to go with the family name. Even if you go with your unique name, the family name will always be with you but in the back corner. This is what ukwuani people have decided to do from time memorial but our choice has clearly not been understood or respected to this day and hence this argument. No ukwuani has ever denied being in a family relationship with the other groups but this alienation will continue if our choice is not respected.

i love this

donshaddow:
Lol... Thanks.

I'm not disputing the fact that our language is 90% igboid related.

I just need people to know and respect my tribe.

You can't call a Benue man Hausa... They might speak hausa or be closely related to them... That does not make them Hausa.

IF u read my post ukwuani is a tribe also with enuani even aro is a tribe all in igbo speaking ethnic group

Ur tribe is respected don't worry and ur my inlaw my wife is obiaruku ...they came or migrated from awkuzu in anambra

Do research ogo

donshaddow:
Maybe they don't know yet.

My boss is from Imo... Whenever you have an argument he just says.. You this Ukwuani man. He never says you this Igbo man.

Cos he knows I'm not igbo.

Ukwuani is one of the 27 official recognized national language being taught as a curriculum.

Don't let that border u its just our ways ..we yab even the owerri man will say this onitsha man

He knows your igbo just that ypu speak a different dialect not language

Ukwuani speaks same with of oguta in imo just like ika speaks with owerri

Now we have agreed at a point .igbo is not a tribe but an ethnic group and made up. Of tribe speaking different dialects of igbo

Oru isu owerri ARO are tribes in igbo

Macelliot:
Check my post. I refered the Ikwerre people as a Tribe... But the "Ikwerre language" is Igboid...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igboid_languages

are you sure, kedu local government ha, are they in ohaneze...

OneNaira6:
OP there's also

Umuezeokoha---it's an igbo community/dialect in Ado, Oju, Okpoku and Obi of Benue State.

I actually feel sorry for this group of people. They cried out they want to be carved back with their Ezza Ezekuna kindred in Ebonyi yet noone has done anything to fix it. It kind of reminds me of Igbanke crying out to be carved back to delta and yet, till date, noone has done anything.

I pity both groups.

gbam


tinye onu na okwu a

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Onyiridike:
Nobody is begging you to be Igbo. Infact you can never be Igbo.

Obviously, the crude oil in your land makes you think that Ndigbo is interested in you but you are wrong.

We have too many Igbos already.

you have a way of playing with word, bia nwoke iguru literature, well idi korrect mana ka anyi me ya the emperical and scientifical way, hapu godi akuko mike ajeagha ndi ikwerre na ako


hopeathand na ako tuuuuuuuuuu

Radoillo:
No, you don't get the reason for my comment. You said, no Eze in Ikwerre has said they aren't Igbo. I was only pointing out that at least one Ikwerre Eze had said so before.

I was not suggesting that every Ikwerre person felt like him, neither was I stating my own personal opinion on the matter. I ghotago?

WHAT OF IGBANKE, WHAT OF IGBO SPEAKING CLANS IN BENUE/KOGI STATES, WHY ARE YOU EXCLUDING THEM, WHAT OF IGBO SPEAKING CLANS IN AKWA IBOM AND CROSS RIVER

PLS CONTRIBUTE HERE, THIS IS NOT FAIR

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KEDU

donshaddow:
De'lee nwanem....

You made me remember those days when dad plays queen Azaka on the turn table nonstop.

Ubochi nje ni ukwata abi... Lol....

Memories.

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME, I SAID WE NEED A LINGUISTIC AND ARCHEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE NOLT ONE EZE GBAKOGBAKA AND IT WILL BE NICE IF I CAN SEE THAT BOOK COS MY UNCLE IS AN IKWEERRE MAN FROM ELELE UMANELU AND HE CALLS HIMSELF IGBO

I NEED FACTS NOT ONE OLD CONFUSED MAN POSTULATION IN THIS INTELLECTUAL AGE

NWANNA I RESPECT YOUR SUBMISSION BUT THIS...ODIKWA EGWU

Radoillo:
Well, to be fair, the late Eze Gbakagbaka, Dr Frank Eke did say, and write, on a number of occasions that he and his people were not Igbo.

OneNaira6:
How did I know you were going to be the first person to fall for it? SMH!!!

Anyway, carry on.

LOL

PEOPLE NAME: IGBO OF EQUATORIAL GUINEA

The Igbo of Equatorial Guinea, numbering 32,000, are No Longer Unreached. They are part of the Igbo people cluster within the Sub-Saharan African affinity bloc. Globally, this group totals 26,249,800 in 6 countries. Their primary language is Igbo. The primary religion practiced by the Igbo is marginal Christianity, a form of religion with roots in Christianity but not theologically Christian.

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PEID: 13167

ROP: 103963

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Affinity Group: Sub-Saharan African Peoples

Affinity Bloc: Sub-Saharan African

People Cluster: Igbo

Language: Igbo - (ibo)

Alternate Name(s):

Primary Religion: Christianity - Other / Marginal

Country: Equatorial Guinea

Also found in: Cameroon; Canada; Ghana; Nigeria; United States;

Population: 32,000

Global Population: 26,249,800

Progress of the Gospel: No Longer Unreached

Global Status of Evangelical Christianity: 4
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Macelliot:
Arochukwu is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Abia state.

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Ngwa is an Igbo group, constitute the largest and most populous sub-ethnicity, in southeastern Nigeria. They are found in Abia State.

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Nsukka is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Nsukka, Enugu State.

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Enuani is an Igbo dialect spoken in Nigeria by the Igbo people of Delta State, Onitsha, Obosi and Ogbaru in Anambra State and Ndoni in Rivers State.

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Ukwuani (Anioma) is an Igboid Language. They are found majorly in the Northern part of Delta State and in some parts of Ogba/Egbema/Ndoni local government area of Rivers State, Nigeria. Ukwuani is the second largest ethnic nationality in Delta state after the Urhobo people. It is also the largest in Delta North region which is referred to as the Anioma...

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Ozara is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Nkanu west in Enugu state...

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Ogba (also Oba) is an Igbo dialect of the Ogba people of Rivers State, Nigeria.

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Umuezeohaka is an Igbo dialect/group of people in Ado, Oju, Obi and Okpoku LGAs of Benue state.

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Ekpeye is an Igboid language of Rivers State, Nigeria.

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Mgbo language, Mgbolizhia, is an Igbo language spoken in Ebonyi state in Nigeria.

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Ikwerre, is an Igboid language spoken primarily by the Ikwerre people who inhabit Rivers State, Nigeria.

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Ezaa is an Igbo language spoken in Ebonyi state in Nigeria. It forms a dialect cluster with closely related Izii, Ikwo , and Mgbo , though they are only marginally mutually intelligible.

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Ikwo is an Igbo language spoken in Ebonyi state in Nigeria.

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Ohuhu is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Umuahia, Abia state...

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Owerre is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Owerri, Imo state...

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Agbor is an Igboid dialect with bini influence spoken by the people of Ika south, Delta state..

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Ibeku is an Igbo dialect spoken by some people of Owerri and Umuahia in Imo and Abia respectively....

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Isuama is an Igbo dialect spoken in by the emacipated slaves from Igbo Origin in Sierra Leone...

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Afikpo is an Igbo dialect spoken by some group of people in Ebonyi state...

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Ohafia is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Bende in Abia State...

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Enugu-Ezike is an Igbo dialect spoken by the Enugu-Ezike people of Enugu state..

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Izugbe is an Igbo dialect spoken generally by all Igbo groups..

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Idemili is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Idemili North and south in Anambra state...

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Mbaise is an Igbo dialect spoken by the people of Mbaise in Imo state...

I AM DISAPPOINTED AT THE OP, HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE IGBO SPEAKING GROUP INDIGENOUS IN OTHER COUNTRY LIKE EQ

PEOPLE NAME: IGBO OF EQUATORIAL GUINEA

The Igbo of Equatorial Guinea, numbering 32,000, are No Longer Unreached. They are part of the Igbo people cluster within the Sub-Saharan African affinity bloc. Globally, this group totals 26,249,800 in 6 countries. Their primary language is Igbo. The primary religion practiced by the Igbo is marginal Christianity, a form of religion with roots in Christianity but not theologically Christian.

–
PEID: 13167

ROP: 103963

Download Prayer Card

Affinity Group: Sub-Saharan African Peoples

Affinity Bloc: Sub-Saharan African

People Cluster: Igbo

Language: Igbo - (ibo)

Alternate Name(s):

Primary Religion: Christianity - Other / Marginal

Country: Equatorial Guinea

Also found in: Cameroon; Canada; Ghana; Nigeria; United States;

Population: 32,000

Global Population: 26,249,800

Progress of the Gospel: No Longer Unreached

Global Status of Evangelical Christianity: 4
http://www.peoplegroups.org/Explore/GroupDetails.aspx?peid=13167

It's only the nobody say they ain't igbo in ukwuani

My inlaws.

Penssuwa:
Who cares? Do i receive medal of honour for your being or not being Igbo? Does it credit my account? People are progressing and u are progressively retrogressing

Lets assume that ikwerre are from benin, which is a travest can you give us archeological and linguitic evidence of that notion, this is a smart age so we should think smart not foolishly, mind you that i am not disputing ikwerre migration either from igbo mainland or benin, which is not far but what i want is SIMPLE ARCHEAOLOGICALAND LINGUISTIC EVIDENCE


now let me give you how linguistic evidence work, some dutch came all the way from europe and settled in africa another continent, they inter married and have a variation of language which is AFRIKAANS and its a dutch language with african flavor, now another one is the igbo in Equitorial Guinea that sourjourned there centuries ago, till today they still maintain their pristine form of igbo and bear igbo names and that place is far,now another instance is the olukumi that is in asaba they migrated from yoruba land but have been igbonized yet go there today they still have yoruba lexicon in their igbo flavor...these are pointer


NOW WHAT IS IKWERRE LINGUISTIC AND CULTURAL POINTER TO BENIN MIGRATION? pls dont tell us my papa say, one old man said, we are in an intelligent age, please give us some scientific ,archeological, cultural or even linguistical fact or pointer to this IKEWERRE BENIN THING


Secondly why are you in IGBO thread does it point to affinity or curiousity maybe stupidity of complexitiy of psyche.....I am waiting for this evidence

Ikwerreboy:
Igbos igbos igbos, hw mny times hv i called u dirty migrants, Ikwerre,Ekpeye and Ogba are not ikwerre, they have desame ancestrial root trace to benin,(Then Oba awure).. As for the Ndoni people they have never accepted been igbo, only time shall tell, we shall all be here and hear that Rivers state Govt deports 1,000 igbos back to south east under the administration of Gov-elect Chief Nyesom wike, Continue bringing hatred for your self..

Under the administration of former governor of rivers state Dr. Peter Odilli of Ndoni, you igbos organised a prayer for all ur igbo brothers to come together and pray, concerning there stay in port harcourt (ikwerre land) and other part of rivers state, that there is an evil plan to be carried out on the igbos in rivers state.

You were been invited to the state house of assembly for organising such a prayer with the concept of the state govt, which the so called Gov. Amaechi from ikwerre who have demolished thousands of ur shops, arrested most of you who tried to acquire ikwerre local govt identification because of our similarities in names, who claimed his igbo during buhari presidential campaign in abia state, because he knows how tribalistic you people are, was the speaker of rivers state house of assembly then.

Not only that, the ikwerre concil of elders summoned you igbos and asked you people to pay fine for organising such a prayer with out the concept of the ikwerre people who own the land you derive ur daily bread. just to name a few.

You igbos are group of confused people who have no direction, the most divided ethnic group in nigeria, you are so hated all over nigeria because of your silly attitude.

The ikwerres,ogbas,ekpeye,etche and Ndoni of rivers state are not members of your Ohaeze ndi igbo organisation i wounder why you idiots include us in your irritating igbo identity we dnt belong,

Below is a brief history of the ikwerre,ogba and ekpeye people of rivers state which the benin cultural heritage have confirmed it when they visited port harcourt (ikwerre land), Ogba and ekpeye you fools:

Chief N.M.T. Solomon (2004), native of Ikodu Ubie in Ekpeyeland, in
his narrative draws heavily from the now authenticated written
historical records delivered by various informed sources including
“Eketu (Weber) of Ubeta, assumed to have lived for over two hundred
(200) years as the oldest man in all Ekpeye, Ogba and Iwhnurọ hna (or
Ikwerre), at that time (and) was asked to narrate the history and
customs of Ekpeye people” as unfolded in his lifetime. Here is what he
said, which has been validated by the accounts of the current
generation through responses to our questionnaires and direct
interviews thereby increasing our level of confidence on the data:
Ekpeye, born in Benin, was the first of the three sons of Akalaka.
While in Ndoni, he married a second wife to gain the love and favour
of the people. The new wife gave birth to a son, which he named Ogba.
Akalaka was still in Ndoni when his first wife, the mother of Ekpeye,
gave birth to his third son called Ihruoha (Ikwerre) .


Proudly Ikwerre..

I concur with you and disagree with hope at hand, Ikwerre speaks Igbo but might not be igbo, depending on the side of divide he is, I HAVE SEEN PROUD IGBOS FROM IKWERRE nad i have seen foolish ones that doesnt know where they are from

so I will noty categorize all ikwerre as non igbo

AMAECHI even told them that he is IGBO and i am yet to see any EZE that said that iklwerre aint igbo even Gbakogbako



HOPEATHAND MY FOE (LOL) Jiri nwayo maka ime gi ihe

Radoillo:
'Igboid' as it is currently used in academic circles cover the following 'languages':

1.) Igbo Proper (an all-encompassing name for all the lects spoken in the South-East, except for the Ezza-Izi-Ikwo-Mgbo cluster)

2. Ezza-Izi-Ikwo-Mgbo

3. Ika

4. Ukwuani-Aboh-Ndoni

5. Ogba

6. Enuani

7. Etche

8. Ikwerre

9. Ekpeye (the most distinct of them all).

Every academic source there is will tell you the same thing.