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Amefrica: I still haven't remembered when I added you on BBM ...all the same, I never sounded like I wanna exchange words with you. Ain't nobody got time for that!

Success!

my level of tolerance is high towards you in particular, when you were depressed you came around, you told me the situation surrounding your application, you told me your age, i felt the whole thing was too much for a boy of your age, i did some research and gave you orientation, words of encouragement and you were overwhelmed, you got your trv and today you say to me[b]Ain't nobody got time for that![/b] ? such is life my friend, things aren't always what they appear to be, but trade very carefully my friend cus you'll be opening old wounds ..happy Sunday "lucky one"

Amefrica: My friend, you were a young guy going for Bsc, your dad is/was your sponsor - all your docs were straight up, they needed no explanation. Now, compare this to a 30yr old going for Bsc being sponsored by his uncle. Do not you think, an SOP is essential/needed? You got your TRV without submitting an SOP ain't a BIG deal!

Don't tell me you never knew an SOP could play a very vital role in/on someone's application. It did in my second application - just so you know.

Since "Day 1" SOP has always been optional, decision is not made solely on it, submit it if you so wish - an SOP can explain any document you can't provide at the time of your application.

Don't disregard the importance of a LOE/SOP. What worked for you might not work for others.
Different strokes for different folks...

Nuff said!

this is not literal, i know what you are driving at, but i'll let the quote from the post you are replying to, to exchange words with you,"i THINK those docs may be required depending on the situation of which your application comes with."..i can vividly remember when you added me on bbm..but i'll stop there. believe me, you don't wonna exchange words with me, you really don't wonna.

twaintoy: No SOP and you got TRV? That's some news.

lol

temidel: II give all the Glory and honor to God Almighty for his grace and unending mercy. My TRV story became successful with nothing else but Gods UNMERITED FAVOUR…indeed!! My story was an exception to the rules or norm!!
I applied online for my TRV on the 1st of July, 2014 only to discover a few days later that I made a huge mistake with my application…I discovered the following:

(1) CIC FORMS: My Family information form was totally incomplete and I also gave wrong information. Due to rush or sheer carelessness I entered a wrong date of birth for myself, which is totally different from my real age (what’s in my international passport). my parents are deceased and I did not include their death dates and city as requested on the form, I failed to declare if I had children or not and sign as required (even though I’m currently single let alone to have kids). I also did not include the country of birth of my siblings in the space provided. and ooops!! I remembered what someone said on this thread about how CIC declines application for people who either provide wrong information or fail to fill their forms completely (https://www.nairaland.com/1475467/travelling-canada-part-5/347)

(2) LOE: My letter of Explanation was not as detailed as it may have been for most people in here. Though just a page, no introduction, didn’t state why I chose to study in Canada, didn’t mention why my uncle was my co-sponsor, let alone state what he stands to benefit from sponsoring me. I only talked about why I chose my course of study, what my academic expectations are and the gap I hope to fill back home with the skills I acquire after study. I also talked a little about my work experience and why I decided to study in the school where I got admitted to and that was all.

I found out about this thread after I had submitted my application and I felt really depressed and looked forward to a denial. I sooo wished I had visited this thread before submitting my application and I knew it can only take Gods unmerited favor for this to be successful, so i fasted and did a lot of prayer work. In fact, at a point i stopped praying and still feared I was going to be denied but lo and behold:

I received a medical request on the 28th of July
Did medicals at Asaju-31st July
Passport Request- 5th August
TRV stamped and passport pickup-8th August

Documents submitted include: CIC forms, My account statement, my co-sponsors (Uncle) account statement, pension statement, Affidavit of sponsor, Letter of Sponsorship, my share certificate, SOP, letter of acceptance, employment letter, promotion letter, paystubs, staff id card, NYSC certificate, degree certificate and transcripts, police clearance certificate, passport info and digital photograph.

Note: I and my uncle don’t bear same surname and I didn’t include my parent’s death certificates

Moral of the story: There’s a God factor which supersedes every human endeavor and there can always be an exception to every rule. But only with God will all things be possible. Congrats to those who already got their TRV’s and to the medicals and TRV hopefuls, PLEASE commit everything to God. Even those who are over qualified still get denied. To those who use their time and resource (data, relevant documents) to attend to various queries in here and guide prospects with viable tips on the application process(Even more than most agents would do)…God will duly reward you with Favor in everything you set your heart to do…
Sorry for the Long, yet inspiring story

Canada can’t wait to receive a star!!!!....... Have a great day all.

this is what i'm always emphasizing on; Conspicuous consumption. we consume every single information we get out of curiosity and due to the achieved status of the information giver, without putting into consideration how over-exaggerating, over-generalizing furthermore myopic we humans can be most often..here's one to try; put a race between Positive news against Negative news and see which comes 1st..

mtxatx: Funny thing is that i didnt write a LOI or SOP .. and i got TRV ..
Important thing is to Get ur documents correct and set well first, LOI or SOP is just a secondary addition not a main one..

If your documents aint right and u write the best SOP, the VO might still think otherwise.

Just saying..............

5 months back when i made a post saying; "i didnt write a LOI or SOP .. and i got TRV", people made ridicules out of it, perhaps as a result of their negative reaction towards intellectual diversity. In addition to that, I still find it astonishing, seeing the way people make a big deal out of Sop, loi, ties and all em things. However, i THINK those docs may be required depending on the situation of which your application comes with. Furthermore, i believe it all depends on the authenticity of your document and not sop garbage.

vanrichie4u: (ONLINE ROUTE)
Guys apart from my letter of sponsorship that need to be notarize, do I need to notarize all my other docs (they are original&letter headed) ??

No other.

I'm currently doing a research on 'psychedelic impact and the expansion of consciousness', if you got a good reference kindly mention.

cman4good: @blink6, thank you for ur fast reply...... i want to knw if Embassy will go for verification because i have already withdraw the money for my tuition fees. plz i need ur advise. thanks

the fact is that no body knows if the embassy will verify, however, it's never a smart move to withdraw the money knowing fully well they can always verify if they wonna.

earthgreeners: you are not expected to know...olobe

hahaha, na olobe they connect with olebe..you want trow stone for market?

earthgreeners: you are not expected to know...olobe

hahaha, na olobe they connect with olebe..you wan trow stone for market?

vinnygod: @touchell pls could we kindly end this matter.I initiated it and wanna end it now..pls 4d sake of peace..let's divert attention to sumfin else maybe by weekend again I'll raise another issue for guruz only...case closed

sure why not, i believe with every contribution, you should be able to tell certain differences between a College and a University, it's an interesting freethinking debate, should in case you still got some issues on it, i can always tag with you in doing some intense research..

debate and arguments are meant to be fun and educative i wonder why most people take it as quarrel, If your supporting points are stronger than mine with a genuine and reliable source of info, then i'm obviously wrong and should stop procrastinating, i mean why should i get offensive?

lovelydamsel: Oga let me explain to you in pigdin english lol.when I say certificates don't mean anything.I meant if you have all your bsc,pgd,diploma or masters or phd etc it won't give you the right job its all paper.its what you can deliver.some people just have diplioma/bsc and they are doing better than those who have phd.
Nigerians we believe that when you have masters you more chances of getting higher.which is not the case in foreign countries,most of them just get a diploma and they are satisfied.
'M not good with long explaination.I don't like to repeat what others have contributed.
Have you heard of people who don't make use of their certificates? But are doing very well.have you heard of people who study a course in school and go into another career totally different from what they read in school?

madam i doubt if you even know the meaning of piging english.

justwise: College is for FE while university is for HE, college has always been seen as a preparatory institution for university hence the discrimination.

In college you have teachers while in university you have lecturers, the value system has always given university graduates a bigger portion of respect than college graduates, whether this is right or wrong is not the argument.

Foreign students choose college for two reasons: cheaper fees and lenient entry requirements, you may be very intelligent with good result but got no money to get admission into top foreign universities, or you have the money but with poor result.

College is the cheap and cheerful option for those set of prospective students.

I don not in any way agree to this rationalization, 1. Please kindly be more explanatory on what you mean by; "In college you have teachers while in university you have lecturers" i mean, on what basis do you define a Teacher and a Lecturer?
2. i quote again;"you may be very intelligent with good result but got no money to get admission into top foreign universities", don't you think comparing Colleges with top foreign universities is more like drifting away from the debate topic? why not compare top foreign colleges with universities to see how prejudiced you perspective is to the debate topic e.g compering Claremont McKenna College at California.US with tuition of USD 58,065 and University Of Texas at Dallas.US with tuition of USD 8,500-15,500.

lovelydamsel: In foreign countries certificates don't mean anything.its what you have studied and learned that's what they after.if you can deliver.Except you want to be a lecuturer that's when certificates are needed like the msc and phd holders.
Its only in Africa Nigeria for example,we are certificates.Gathering all the certificates in this world won't give you work.its your intelligence,your abilities.even those canadians some of them stop school after college and start life.
Africans need to stop degrading and grading certificates

what do you mean by certificates don't mean anything.its what you have studied and learned that's what they after.if you can deliver.?? how do you show you can deliver, when you don't have the certificate to be giving the chance to prove your self?? ..such paradox

SavedbyYaweh: Abeg na, Pls wat airline is cost effective for someone heading to Ottawa, stopping at Toronto precisely.
Planning to move 3rd week of August.
Any suggestions, links. Thanks

[quote author=twoc]hi, pls have you gotten any info on airline? pls any one going to University of Guelph?

i used http://www.tourbrokersinternational.com/ to book my Air France flight, @SavedbyYaweh book your flight asap!

earthgreeners: Doing good.. Since you have refused to connect.. I just maintain my champion

You see me ri?

man, i don't know what you're saying.

vinnygod: This is well articulated dish out response thou makes me feel nervous. Am beginning to have a second thought hmmmm....what's the fate of peepz who have taken the post graduate university path...re u implying its less likely to get'em employment upon graduation......

you don't to be nervous, they are people who just got thier cert and still find jobs easy, as we all know, apparently getting a job is all about competition, get those things your opponents don't have, it's simple, here are the steps to follow, 1.get into your postgraduate studies, 2.get involve in at least two volunteering groups in school that relate to your field of study. 3. get a part-time job, preferably the one that also relate with your filed of study as well..at the end of your studies you should have a good Graded cert, little working experience from the part time job, which if eventually you do well you can easily switch to a full time worker. and also a volunteering point from the school, and if you have a good personality your group members might develop a special interest on you and be willing to help you out in one way or the other after school. then you are good to go..thinking at the margin..

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double08: Nice piece there buddy. I noticed ssince you left for Canny ur input have been incisive. Keep it up.

lol, thank you sir.

tokiniofficial: 20th August 2014.

That's pretty close, my email WW.NSCDC that's all. joking, toucheli@yahoo.com

chrisviral: Seriously?
Ogun state now, that's Bad, Boko boys in the North, Eboola in the west, what's happening?

Say it all men, Confra boys in the East and Community violence in the South. i'm from the South, born and brought up in the North, did my primary school in the West, moved back to the north, First experience Undergraduate studies for two good years in the East. i've been to all these places mehn, and i'll say it has all been Outrageous. hoping and praying for better days ahead of Nigeria.

akosh005: The guy dy Aso Rock

lol, i wish them well in abj.

vinnygod: have noticed a quite number of peepz who are aspiring for graduate study choose colleges to universities despite its expensive nature.have been wandering the factors behind this choice though done a lil research but later decided to ignore it, surprisely this question was later reawaken by a friend who came to me with same issue.please wanna throw same question here,why do people prefer C to U; what are the advantages of one over other??@guruz only

This is a very good question that requires a good and critical thinker to ask. my views and hypothesis might not fully address your concern or question, but i think they relate in some way.. from my little field work study on the cause of why some international student find it difficult to get a job in canada after several years doing both under graduate an post graduate study "Here in Canada".. I realize that most international student focus Only on their studies to get the best grades, which is however good. but i think most international student fail to put into consideration the advantages the local student have over we the international student..which are; 1.The Colour: Race and ethnicity are two culturally constructed categories, which are most time mainly defined on the basis of skin colour. 2. Work experience: 90% percent of the Canadian parents only sponsor their children to high school level, after which the children are been expected to work and train them self's for undergraduate and postgraduate which is in contrast to the pattern of so many other countries including Nigeria. This is why the citizens are most times regarded as to have more work experience over the international students by many employers. 3.Team work ability: team work is always crucial in workplaces, and it is one of the ability the citizens learn from a much earlier age in their place of work after high school.
..Now think about this advantages and see how it relates with your question. what i think with regards to undergraduate level; I think most people prefer getting a diploma from a College, which has to do with more practicals and less theory studies, and this could stand as a work experience which is one of the advantages the citizens have over you an international student. After which you can pursue a degree from a university, while studying you shouldn't just focus on studying alone but also involving in some volunteering school group, earn volunteering points, which could stand as your Team work ability another advantage the local student have over you. primarily what employers look for when hiring new employees are: 1.Certificate, 2.Work experience, 3.Team work ability, others are secondary..i wish i can elaborate more on this but unfortunately i have to stop here, it's left for you the thinker to think further.. My view on this issue is open for all, other views are welcomed, both for and against..

chrisviral: Hehehehe you know him?
Please tell him to stop killing people in Lagos, abeg

Is he still in lagos?? i thought lagos is practically empty apparently and which is why he has progressed to Ogun state...nawa for n.t.a o

chrisviral: *please eeh you people should not end this quarrel, so part 5 don quick reach 500 pages, make I no weda I go retrieve all my post and likes for part 6*

Thanks. BTW Atomic Bomb is winning with 11 points.

holly sh*t! dude take a message back to your sender and tell them you didn't see me.. you wan use laugh kill me..baba God pass..i'm outta here!

chrisviral: Na so to BC wey I just dey get today, Eboola that one, Eboola this one.. please who is Eboola disease Is he a canadian?

i guess he's in ontario hahahahahahahaha nice one

atomicbomb007: I mind you not coming in.Who called you in ? your story too much, now am feeling sleepy.I didn't even take the time to read your post so if all this story you said is in support of atomicbomb007 then good one

what ever floats your boat man

earthgreeners: Why comma come full your comment like water?

You are right though.

lol, earthgreeners..you always chip in pick on me and vanish abi?, keep it up..one day bush meat go catch the hunter..if na the comma no vex, na small thing remain for me to even do a proper citation and paraphrasing on-top..no be my fault you of all people know how uofm they carry plagiarism for head..How your side?

ElCapt:

lolz..this is crazy, nice one

atomicbomb007: That, my brother isn't necessary.Lead by example.I have read pages on this thread where some so-called guru enforced there opinion on innocent peeps looking for information.I guess you didn't see anything wrong with that or you just choose to ignore.I sense sentiment in your post.You're probably the hidden ALABOSI here

Even as though it's an open thread, i hope you don't mind if i come in.. like i'll always say, my views are never to offend anyone or to justify inappropriate deceptions. Talking about been Sentimental.. believe me it's happens here every now and then. I don't understand why people try to make this thread hierarchical in some ridiculous manner. I can vividly remember saying in this thread that No one is a superior and no one one is a subordinate, regardless of how long you've been here, how often you contribute or how authentic your contributions are. we are all humans we MUST make mistakes, which could lead to giving the wrong information, and on the contrary, don't expect what worked for me to perfectly work for you also, it all depends on certain psychological or socio-cultural variables..There are two things involve in dealing with advice and suggestions; Giving or receiving advice from someone is one thing, Following or taking the advice is a total different thing which is in an individuals power to choose. It's a sad thing that it's always the new ones that gets victimize by the old ones with back ups from some others that seek special interest from a particular person..it's all logical..but we should all know that, there's noting as bad as self-deception and following the wrong trails.

codebreaker: Please no subs and indirects should be flying here.. See ba! For what its worth.. I believe you guys are pissed because questions are directed to a special few.. I understand but that should not vex you.
People learn from all these questions and opinionated answers cos I tell you brethren I did not know canada use to reject anyhow until I came here and saw people lamenting.. I thought visa was easy like uk.
Even if someone used agent why should you be mad tho.
But I beleive the guy was trynna be funny.. cos that 'none of my business' joke is a new norm now.

Dude, i feel you, i ain't taking side with no one in this, apparently, i ain't got no idea of what it's about basically, I've been a part of this network for a while now, and i guess you are new, i don't mean to be offensive to anyone directly or indirectly but there's a point you made which i'll like to put some light on ; "Even if someone used agent why should you be mad tho." even as though i didn't use an agent i still don't see the reason why people should antagonize those who used one, i mean it makes no senses, i might be good at preparing visa application, but literally worst at tutoring a toddler learning a.b.c. my thesis is that; we just cant know it all which is so obvious in everyday life, It's just so amazing how things work.. In life, we must each follow our own path.