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Romance › Re: Yoruba Women (and dating) by tpia5(op):
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Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 1:00am On Nov 23, 2011
What range of titles are you interested in? huh

Do you want new ones specifically made or you'll be ok with current formats like oba, sao, olisa, etc.

Have you done any exploits to advance the yoruba cause- that could give you a knighthood befitting the occasion.
Eg Momasowa I
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 12:55am On Nov 23, 2011
So, what name do you guys want? huh

Ondotunji (there's already an oyotunji) or ekotunji.
Oguntunji? huh
Romance › Re: Yoruba Women (and dating) by tpia5(op):
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Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 10:30pm On Nov 22, 2011
for stillwater

In the 1950’s a British company “Hayes” made most of the Yoruba high fashion head ties.  In the 1970’s those head ties incorporated N  and $ (Naira or money) symbols into the woven fabric and other high society associated symbols including the Mercedes Benz symbol.   In the 1970’s the more popular head ties came from Switzerland.  Today they come from China.



There was a time when head ties were made of silk.  But when a head ties is old or of floppy material one has to stuff it with a plastic bag or paper for it to hold its shape.  Damask was used by the wealthy ladies as head ties because it was heady.  However, it was also difficult to tie.  If you are high fashion Nigerian then once a year you will clean out your head ties and distribute them to relatives who do not have as much as them. It is also quite fashionable to take old head ties turn them into quilts.
http://www.detomosabroad.com/?p=269
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 10:24pm On Nov 22, 2011
still water

the yoruba couple with bridesmaids in igbo dressing, probably have igbo admixture hence the dressing would be a reflection of their ancestry.

or the friends might be igbo.




the guy in indian dress is modelling it i suppose. He might be from kwara where they have a lot of fulani.


@ other photos in your post:

the material for the gele is damask like.

yoruba women had headties which were the same material as the wrappers. Then this changed to different materials over the years until we have the variety we see today. Which has also evolved to the lacy type now in vogue.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 10:20pm On Nov 22, 2011
stillwater:
Only on NL people think Igbos hate Yorubas and vice versa. You people should separate internet from reality, unless that's your reality sha.

It's just fashion people. Fashion in Nigeria has changed. Anybody can wear anything.
Like I said before, it's of recent Yoruba's started wearing this kind of gele. Maybe madam Kofo was the inspiration. lol.

[img]http://3.bp..com/-ERIHla7jXjE/Tkw23rbkjRI/AAAAAAAAAD8/g7HbLy7EWCQ/s1600/gele-photoshoot-behind-the-scenes32.jpg[/img]

The colorful geles are a recent modification from not even Nigeria. Geles used to look more like the top picture, but they have been modified to look like this now. That is fashion. Yoruba did not start it. That is why in your weddings you were aso-oke and Igbo and south south wear them more in their weddings.

[img]http://3.bp..com/-PIGQP9aHqxY/Tkw210Qdp9I/AAAAAAAAAD4/RvjQJY1Hx74/s1600/Ade+Adetayo.png[/img]

Someone said Igbos called it Ichafu. That is why in most Igbo weddings and South South weddings they wear them more. You people should stop using internet to know the Nigerian culture, go to Naija. Everyone knows the stereotypical yoruba dressing is aso-oke, and south east to be the george and the gele. That is the Nigeria I grew up in. Let's not twist fact. I think Madam Kofo actually paved way for Yorubas to start embracing this type of gele.

See Dakore's wedding.

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dakore-Olumide-Akande-Wedding-BELLANAIJA-EXCLUSIVE-Feb-2011-BellaNaijadotcom013.jpg

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dakore-Olumide-Akande-Wedding-BELLANAIJA-EXCLUSIVE-Feb-2011-BellaNaijadotcom014-600x400.jpg

Igbo Wedding
https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ngozi-Ekezie-and-Wale-Akintujoye-Bella-Naija002-400x600.jpg

Even this paper-gele is becoming old school. What people wear now has this lacy texture to it in Nigeria.

This is a Yoruba girl getting married. Her sisters wore Igbo style of dressing, double wrapper george and lace top. The gele they are wearing is the modern modification of old school geles. It has a lacy texture. That is what is reigning now in Naija.

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Rotimi-Leigh-Dennis-Iweze-Traditional-Wedding-May-2011-BellaNaija-Exclusive-063-600x400.jpg

These material the girls on the side of the bride would pass for george.

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/BellaNaijadotcomAbisola-Abiola-Ajimobi-Kolapo-Kola-Daisi-Engagement-Wedding019-600x398.jpg

On a closing note, Igbo people are not one dimensional, you can do whatever you like, wear whatever you like. It's all fashion. Afterall this is an Igbo couple on their wedding day, lol.

https://cdn.bellanaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/VOGUE-600x399.jpg

Same with Yoruba people. I'm sure I've seen the Indian style dressing in a couple of Yoruba weddings. grin
Romance › Re: Do Anambra Guys Marry From Outside Their Tribe? by tpia5: 10:15pm On Nov 22, 2011
it depends.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 10:04pm On Nov 22, 2011
ezeagu:
You've observed that Yoruba women are being dumped for women of other cultures?
give examples.

last time i checked, nigerian men in general are running haywire in every nook and cranny looking for foreign women [and men] to assist them with papers.

doubt its an exclusively yoruba thing and dont go there because you might be pointing fingers at others while ignoring the fingers pointing back at you.


Men chase women, women don't chase men
indeed.
Romance › Re: Yoruba Women (and dating) by tpia5(op):
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Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 9:40pm On Nov 22, 2011
ezeagu:
I don't know if you know anything about Nigeria, but it's men that usually chase women, not the other way. And there are excess Igbo women on this earth so it's okay for them to go and spread culture elsewhere, like they are with other Nigerians, Caribbean's, and African Americans. Go and ask the Kalabari how it turned out for them. The hand that rocks the cradle. . . . .
we have to face facts here- most non-yoruba women find yoruba men very attractive.

i dont know the whys and wherefores but that's how it is.

as i pointed out elsewhere, yoruba men are an acceptable alternative to hausa, who are more or less forbidden for the most part.



imagine bragging about your men travelling to find other women to marry instead
not sure where you're seeing bragging.

i'm simply commenting on what i've observed?
Romance › Re: Yoruba Women (and dating) by tpia5(op):
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Culture › Re: BBC's Documentary On The 'Bronze Cast Head Of The Ife King' by tpia5: 9:22pm On Nov 22, 2011
the akassa in southsouth was also named for an akassa somewhere in morocco which was an old portuguese fort.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 9:20pm On Nov 22, 2011
look, lets face the facts here.

the rate at which yoruba men are gallivanting around, swooping in and carrying off women of other tribes is indeed out of control and i'd be alarmed too if it were me.

so the next best thing is to get this swagger or mojo or whatever you want to call it. Let the ladies see the thing wey dey shack dem in the yoruba dudes, in their own men as well.


if na agbada and cap dem dey take oppress these non-yoruba guys, then agbada will suffer a sea change and move temporarily to the other side of the niger.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 6:07pm On Nov 22, 2011
There is no problem.

We welcome every potential yoruba into our fold.

Let us know if assistance is needed with governance, romance issues, cultural know how, etc. We'll send someone over to teach these things.

No biggie and nothing new. We are all one.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 12:34pm On Nov 22, 2011
Anyway, I believe the main issue here is you cant be hating on yorubas while wearing clothing specifically associated with them.

So, i hope we can move on from there.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 12:31pm On Nov 22, 2011
^My point is just because the agbada is found elsewhere doesnt mean its not indigenous to yoruba.

Yoruba has been linked to sudan and the arabian peninsula (not arabs) long before now.
Romance › Re: Yoruba Women (and dating) by tpia5(op):
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Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 6:02am On Nov 22, 2011
It’s a Sudano-Sahelian creation, which every African group’s especially west African groups picked up; the only thing associated to Yoruba in Nigeria is the name
btw your argument is a cyclic one.

if the yoruba have oral traditions linking them to the arabian peninsula and/or sudan then why is it a stretch to deduce the agbada is in fact indigenous to them? huh
Christianity Etc › Re: Deeper Knowledge in Witch Craft revealed by Edo Witch by tpia5: 5:51am On Nov 22, 2011
Iya Witch:
i kneel down for Jesus
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 5:47am On Nov 22, 2011
Igbos wearing it ight have been of yoruba ancestry?
maybe.

it seems there are igbos who are unaware they might have yoruba ancestry.

they or others are unaware that is.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 5:25am On Nov 22, 2011
[quote author=One_Naira link=topic=807895.msg9606102#msg9606102 date=1321934987]The attire is West African attire. Travel to Ghana, Burkina Faso, Togo, Liberia, etc. and you'll see the same people wearing Agbada even if Yoruba is not among the ethnic group found in their countries.  It’s a Sudano-Sahelian creation, which every African group’s especially west African groups picked up; the only thing associated to Yoruba in Nigeria is the name.[/quote]there's no evidence indicating the agbada did not spread from yoruba to other parts of west africa. As i pointed out before, the fulani conquest was what created a sharp demarcade between the groups now called hausa, and the yoruba.

yoruba traditionalists have a short agbada which they usually wear- check the clothing of ancient ifa priests and also yoruba warriors.


btw, do you have any explanation for why the agbada suddenly dropped out of igbo public dressing, if indeed it used to be worn by igbos in the past, as you say.

personally, i suspect the igbos wearing it might have been of yoruba ancestry.





An Igbo man like me can change the name to Ezeike and that name becomes a widespread name across SE and SS, do either I or any other Igbo man have the right to claim Ezeike is ours? No.
are you being sarcastic with this statement? huh

There are Igbo groups that wore agbada long before their interaction with Yoruba. Those two men wearing agbada has two reason for wearing such attire? It's either they picked it up from their ancestors or the interaction.  How can you be so sure they wore the agbada because of Yoruba?

Nnamdi is an Anambra descendant, Anambra long before their interaction to Yoruba wore Agbada, and I posted the pictures in previous pages.
i've posted the story of king onyeama of eke, who interacted heavily with ilorin mallams and also brought them to igboland.

you do the math.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 4:54am On Nov 22, 2011
one naira

as i pointed out before, the issue isnt the origin of agbada in itself, but rather the problem of hating on yorubas while at the same time wearing attire which is associated with yorubas.

my own research [going by those photos i posted] shows it seems to be the nationalistic igbos in the past who did such. ie wore attire closely associated with another tribe.

the examples of zik, king onyeama of eke, etc.

they were noted for integration and working with yorubas.

note the quote on ilorin medicine men being brought to igboland.

feel free to prove me wrong though.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 4:40am On Nov 22, 2011
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 4:34am On Nov 22, 2011
For those who wished to continue in the old ways and traveled to faraway Ilorin for oracular consultations, Onyeama imported Ilorin Muslim medicine men
huh? huh

travelled to ilorin for oracular consultations in the 19th or early 20th century? huh

seems to me like some areas must have unacknowledged yoruba genes oh.

fulani ones also.
Culture › Re: Yoruba, Igbo And Acculturation (or Multiculture) by tpia5: 4:31am On Nov 22, 2011

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