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Islam › Re: Short Funny Muslim Videos by tpia5: 12:55am On Nov 28, 2011
Islam › Re: Favorite Yoruba Lectures? by tpia5: 12:52am On Nov 28, 2011
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 12:46am On Nov 28, 2011
Malstrom:
I know twins are venerated in Many African cultures!!! grin The Ganda people in Uganda for example its a great pride for the family and especially the mother. In traditional communities she will be treated like a queen by the other women, they'll really treat her with respect. On top of that all the family members get new names and there are certain names for a mother of twins, a brother of twins, a father of twins and so on. And the twins will get special names too of course,
do you have any academic links i can check out?

thanks wink


Malstrom:
If you meen veneration like towards icons I dont know
yes, i mean venerated.
Family › Re: did Your Parents tell You How They Met? by tpia5: 12:37am On Nov 28, 2011
hmm, the friend wasnt sharp enough i guess.


if the girl was fine then why was he waiting for someone else [a man for that matter], to confirm that? huh
Islam › Re: Is It Ideal In Islam? by tpia5: 12:33am On Nov 28, 2011
deols:
So, the husband can enjoy the body of his wife by any means he wants, and if this caused the falling of the milk in his mouth, so the marriage is still ok and not broken, but this doesnot mean that the wife's bosom milk is considered as a source of nutrition for the husband, and it shouldn't be.
no, it wouldnt be considered a source of nutrition.
Islam › Re: Is It Ideal In Islam? by tpia5: 4:09pm On Nov 27, 2011
some things are supposed to be between a man and his wife, not outsiders.




@ deols

are unmarried people supposed to be suckling each other in the first place? The poster asked about married couples, not single ones.
Culture › Re: Yoruba Dialects by tpia5: 4:06pm On Nov 27, 2011
odumchi:
Since I Know virtually no Yoruba
then why does the matter interest you? huh
Politics › Re: Ojukwu’s Death Is A Big Loss To Nigeria - Fashola by tpia5: 6:17am On Nov 27, 2011
the poster seems very happy today.

i wonder why.
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 5:44am On Nov 27, 2011
must have been a custom practiced in the abandoned land and they settled with it into the aboriginal land.
that's very possible.


is there any record of other african cultures which venerate twins like the yoruba.
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 4:10am On Nov 27, 2011
the discussion between Debo and I on Obatala being a reference of the consciousness to a historical link with Atlantis and that this had to be the Phoenician element
do you have a link? I'd like to check that.


obviously, there was an amalgamation of influences which gave rise to traditional yorubaland before the european conquest.

much information was lost during the turbulent times in europe [middle ages], hence its not an easy task piecing everything together.
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 4:02am On Nov 27, 2011
does anyone know:

1. why twins are venerated among the yoruba

2. when exactly did this veneration start. [hard one, for sure].

not saying it had to have started at some point in time- just wondering if there's any indication it did.
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 4:01am On Nov 27, 2011
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=770881.msg9640545#msg9640545 date=1322362174]http://eden-saga.com/en/3740-atlantis-american-empire-back-to-europe-etrusque-africa-yoruba-country.html

Etrusceans were themselves an outgrowth of Egyptian influence. Yoruba is a hybrid of the many AfroAsiatic cultures who I call influx elites and a small residual of the aboriginal natives.

You recall, Tpia, the discussion between Debo and I on Obatala being a reference of the consciousness to a historical link with Atlantis and that this had to be the Phoenician element in us. There is a comment in Jospeh Campbell's book - The Hero of a Thousand Faces - where a Greek or Roman ruler had the ambition of routing the sea Northward to the Irish coast and Cornwall - or some place like that - or Southward around the Senegal to Yorubaland. I don't have the book at moment but if I get it I will give the quote.

I attended, as an audience, a lecture of Middle Eastern scholars not too long ago in which they discussed "The People of The Books" - that is the people of monotheistic faith and scriptures. One of the participants mentioned seeing Yoruba arts and after reading up on the history and some books is led to believe without any doubt that Yorubas are Sabeans.

There is something about the Yoruba race in terms of human evolution and civilization that refuses to be silenced. In the 1800s, Ifa attached itself to the slaves to America and spread the Yoruba divinity. In this century, it seems our arts and classics are attaching themselves to the Europeans to find their own voice and recognition and proper place in the timeline of human enlightenement and knowledge.[/quote]very interesting.

I'm getting a clearer picture now [sort of], but there are still so many loose ends and gaps to be filled.
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 2:42am On Nov 27, 2011
the impluvial style of architecture being referred to is the roman atrium.

quite similar to traditional yoruba styles [which are simpler] btw.


roman:

https://www.scalarchives.com/scalapic/ARCH02/b/0061336b.jpg








traditional yoruba central courtyard:

[img]http://www.pitt.edu/~natrooms/africa/T3c_files/image002.gif[/img]
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 2:17am On Nov 27, 2011
the author has pointed out that the cosmic notions of the Yoruba markedly resemble those of the ancient Etruscans. Both divide the universe into quadrants again subdivided into quarters each of which is presided over by a distinct deity.

The system of divination is also quite similar and so is the method of turning about during prayer. These and other homologies are accepted as proof of historical contact and Frobenius sets himself the question whether the imported culture reached the Yoruba country by overland routes through Africa or by way of the Strait of Gibraltar and the West African coast .

Frobenius selects four cultural elements for special treatment- the impluvial style of architecture (impluvialbau) the bow, the loom and the cosmic conceptions.
Hence Yoruba architecture must be assumed to have been imported by a sea route
Culture › Re: The Art And Architecture Of Yorubaland! by tpia5: 2:07am On Nov 27, 2011
@ time keeping in ancient yorubaland:


Among the stone monuments in a sacred grove he describes a monolith of triangular section which the natives declare was formerly used as a kind of chronometer when the shadow cast by the structure touched certain definite points of a circumscribed circle the time had come for certain sacred observances



http://books.google.com/books?id=UeAqAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA90&dq=yoruba+atrium&hl=en&ei=U4rRTrqSFMnv0gHJ5_gR&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=yoruba%20atrium&f=false
figures.
Politics › Re: Ojukwu - The Death Of A Nigerian Icon By Akintokunbo A Adejumo by tpia5: 9:04pm On Nov 26, 2011
May he rip and no offence, but why did he keep going against his father's wishes? huh

I wonder what his reasons were because there's a proverb that says what some elders can see sitting down a young person cant see while standing up.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Angels by tpia5: 7:49pm On Nov 26, 2011
ok, i stand corrected.

Zec 5:9 mentions some beings who are described as female.



but they are not called angels. This is significant because an angel was there explaining who they were.
Travel › Re: Cape Town, Most Beautiful African City Pics by tpia5: 7:36pm On Nov 26, 2011
looks like lagos.

anyway, my hometown remains the most beautiful african city imo.


doesnt matter if anyone disagrees.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Angels by tpia5: 7:32pm On Nov 26, 2011
^there's no evidence in the bible indicating angels are female. You can post something to back up your claim and I'll examine it.

the first man was created male- the female was an extension or modification of the male.
Islam › Re: Questions For Muslims: For Those Who Want To Know by tpia5: 6:55pm On Nov 26, 2011
just curious.

i know its a sensitive topic.

the elephant in the room, etc etc.
Islam › Re: Questions For Muslims: For Those Who Want To Know by tpia5: 6:55pm On Nov 26, 2011
not trying to titillate anybody here, but what is the pc position of Islam and s.ex?

is it a taboo topic, and if so, how are sincere muslims expected to discuss or learn about such things before, during or after marriage.

emphasis on sincere, not the players who already know everything there is to know. Also, not referencing draconian traditions where the woman is expressly tortured on suspicion of such.

is reading of material allowed, eg M&Bs, etc.

given the fact that an arabic book is one of the most popular s.ex manuals available, how do you reconcile this with the celibacy expected of a true muslim, and thirdly, how many religious muslims (especially nigerian ones) have actually read or heard of this book.

please dont check it out if you're not the exposed obesere type.
Islam › Re: Taking Off The Hijab by tpia5: 6:48pm On Nov 26, 2011
^you're overly sensitive since my post wasnt intended to be sarcastic.
Islam › Re: Is It Ideal In Islam? by tpia5: 6:44pm On Nov 26, 2011
In conclusion, I suspect that this is one of the things that Allah has deliberately keep silent on as a mercy/benefit to us!
the answer is a bold NON!
Islam does not allow you to marry the child of the woman who suckled you, why because she is your mother even though not biological.

if you look at it from that logical point you can deduce that there is more to the milk in a woman's bosom than what our limited knowledge has given us.

so my answer is no. it is not worth the risk as you wouldn't like Allah to judge her after that as your mother.

and Allah knows best.
but your wife and your mother are two totally different beings.


the topic is simple enough, imo.

wouldnt have thought it could generate any controversy at all, and i actually felt its tongue in cheek.

I think its up to the man, or the couple to decide because its a private matter.
Crime › Re: The Bizarre Saga Of Botched Butt Enhancements by tpia5: 6:38pm On Nov 26, 2011
na wa.

end times.
Christianity Etc › Re: Are There Female Angels by tpia5: 4:17am On Nov 26, 2011
im not aware of any female angels.

there are ministering spirits however who might be neither male nor female.
Culture › Re: Is English Our Native Language In Nigeria by tpia5: 3:39am On Nov 26, 2011
english is the official language, not the native one.


many if not most nigerians still cant speak english anyway so what's the problem.

dont be fooled by the few educated ones who do.
Islam › Re: Is It Ideal In Islam? by tpia5: 2:08am On Nov 26, 2011
X rated topic.

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