Idiots now want the opposition to profer solutions🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


These guys have totally gone bat shit crazy!

Good job. Keep up the pressure. Make I see how level-less Tinubu won't release him before the end of the month. Blaming binance for your country's woes, then thinking it is a good idea to kidnap a US citizen when there are laid down guidelines of how such an international exchange should happen.

They think what they did with Nnamdi Kanu will work in this instance. Newsflash, Tigran is NOT part-Nigerian.

The game is on.

tctrills:


Are you saying that cheaper fuel did not help the average Nigerian? Subsidy with its many faults helped millions of Nigerians who are currently going through hell. The removal of subsidies has only made poverty a lot worse. This is only common sense. We can see the consequence of buying fuel at N600 in just one year. Things are much worse. Now I am not even fighting for but for credibility.
The question should be why are we not producing our own fuel even with the biggest refinery in the world and about 3 other refineries? Your gov owes us a lot of answers

don't mind nairalanda1. I don't even bother again, because he consistently downplays the corruption. The response is always even if they removed the corruption same noni, which I know damn well to be blatantly false.

The reason y'all should expect 1k and above to be the norm is cos of Thubv's stupidity floating the currency and removing subsidy at the same time. There is common sense and situational leadership..like I have always pointed out to the dude, economic theories don't always work in real life as compared to on paper esp for this naija, and I always reference the local rice Vs foreign rice noise that economists and Bubu made. How far today? Use book theory run business for naija, if your business no pack up in one year, call me king 😁

There is situational leadership backed by common sense, not just using theories like a prescription...esp when history says they are not guaranteed to work. If they had prevented the naira from burning, the anguish felt today would have been greatly minimised. Subsidy would have still been removed and cos the currency is stable and holding strong, the hyperinflation wouldn't have happened, and fuel would still be in the 600's max. Now with the current value of the naira, even if Dangote starts today na above 1k una go buy am, if they don't pay him subsidy. How have the economic theory prescriptions helped so far? They have fumbled and gone back to their vomit on both moves.....due to a lack of common sense.

Nothing surprising here for me, I don already talk every for my thread earlier in the year.

https://www.nairaland.com/8017949/way-nigeria-people-govt-got

gnss:
I don't do Politics of Tribe ,Hatred ,Hypocrisy .

Yesterday I was having a discussion with an Elderly Man an APC Party Man who is a Staunch Supporter of Tinubu about the Economy Situations .

He Said ,Kama Ton Arawaje ,Ilu Osunwon Rara ooo.

Meaning ,Without Deceiving ourselves the Things in the Country is not Okay at all.

He is a Yoruba Man ,I am too .

I do not Belongs to the Class of People that Believes even if The President Policies is not Working Good Results then I must Keep Talking like a Zombie ,

Let's face the Reality .

Things are Getting More Worse .

If you say ,You are Okay ,Several Millions are Sufferings ..Go to the Streets and see .

Now Objectively ..

Concerning the Dollars ,Finance ,P2P , Crypto Etc have been Blammed ,Yet Dollars Keep Rising .

WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT ,CBN GOVERNOR SHOULD DO PRACTICALLY TO STRENGTHEN THE NAIRA ?

keep trusting the person you and the elderly man voted for. He tamed the Atlantic Ocean, and parted the red sea. Have a little bit more faith in those his abilities that made you say 'he is the man'.

Do you employ a sales manager, pay him a salary, give him a car, and then still do his job for him?

Kamari!

Sccarrr:
it's the new reality whether u agree or not, atleast until we have a working refinery .

and will still be the reality after the refineries begin, thanks to your stoopid president who swiftly made your currency tissue paper. Petrol costs more to refine than diesel, so if Dangote is selling diesel at the rate of 1000 for 1million litre orders, and there is rousing applause, how much do you reckon he will sell petrol that costs more to refine?


Well, maybe if they pay him subsidy sha.

As long your country's currency is worthless, be prepared for this new reality

Martinez39s:
This is why many religious people will forever be deceived by religion. Life and common sense will, in many ways, invariably communicate to us that there is no god and religion is one big nonsensical falsehood, but people will remain obstinate.

Those terrible and sad situations, or some other situations, that put a question mark on god and religion and make people say the following:
● "We can't question God";
● "God knows best";
● "God has a reason for everything";
● "His ways are mysterious" etc.

are life's ways of showing us the falsehood and absurdity of the notion of god and religion. All one need do is bravely appraise such situations with common sense and critical thinking, and honestly call a spade a spade. GOD NO DEY.

If your sister was Leah Sharibu, would you make peace with such questionable and tragic outcome with the emboldened platitudes? What if she was your daughter? Put yourself in her shoes. Imagine the trauma and mental anguish she is enduring.

Imagine what she would have done with her life and what she would have become had she not been kidnapped. What is that necessary thing that god cannot achieve if Leah Sharibu was rescued and allowed to lead a normal life? Why did she have to be forcibly raped and married off to two men? All because she never denied her faith?

If you were god, would you have ensured a different outcome? If yes, then you are morally better than the supposed demiurge called Yahweh. It turns out that he can't do anything because he doesn't exist.

The earlier we all realise that there is no god or supernatural stuffs and we are all on our own, the better for us.

guy na me use my hand type say the thing really affect my mood this evening. I have asked myself all these questions too.

But at the end of the day, I believe in God, and that he decides what is what. Till this moment, I just dey discuss the girl issue with my wife, and just venting about how it makes me feel.

Infact, if I was her and I waited for a miracle deliverance and it didn't happen, if I no fit kill myself, I will agitate my abductors either by trying to escape or trying to kill one of them just so they can kill me off already, rather than to endure the abuse that this girl must have endured all these years.

I'm really not happy reading this particular update.

I remember the many times I prayed for this girl..cos her case/story really touched me. All I wanted was for God to deliver her from these marauders, as he did Paul and Silas. I wanted to see her case be one that will manifest the power of God.

If I say this news no weak me, na lie.

Well, you are God unquestionable. If this is how you want it, Glory be to your name all the same.

Partial stroke at age 40, and already with 12 children, dying in a brothel??

This nigga!

Well, she is a pussy cat.

They should rather let it burn??

seunmsg:


The levy is 0.005 without the act adding %. There is no where in the act where the levy was said to be 0.5%. If the law say 0.005 is the levy, it should not be misinterpreted to mean 0.5%. The only reasonable interpretation is 0.005%.

lol. Struggling with Basic math🤣🤣🤣

75% of x means 0.75 multiplied by x
10% means 0.1
0.5% means 0.005

Smh

Zahra29:
Breaking news: British Ministry of Defence has been hacked by the Chinese state.

What an outrageous lie from the UK. As if China would ever do such a thing... 👀

lol. Still a little too early to conclude that.

I have read three news sources since you broke the news and all said the same thing

'the UK govt did not name a country'

I say let's give it time.

Bear in mind, the last population census took place even before I went for youth service in the north in 2010. Everything since then has been estimated.

I can say it with my full chest that even the percentages of the Hausa-Fulani bloc alone has increased exponentially. These guys are the ones fuelling the population explosion. How many children Yoruba or Igbo don born since last census? Fulani alone go don quintuple the number, and all those babies that disease, insurgency and hunger did not kill since the last census in 2006, likely were all of legal voting age in 2023 election, won't even talk of the illegals.

That is why I feel no pity for the travails of northern Nigeria as a whole. Cos it is deliberate, self-motivated, and self-inflicted. They have only one strategy, strength and pride: their numbers!

anonimi:


Why are you wrongly equating Hausa-Fulani to the entire northern Nigeria for your comparison to southern Nigeria

I will say this once and very bluntly.

When election comes there is almost always a united Northern Nigeria! Sprinkle of religion, remember?

When election comes there is almost always never a united southern Nigeria.

EOD

Fact remains bloc by bloc, the Hausa Fulani have the highest numbers as a standalone bloc, more than Yoruba or Igbo. When will Yoruba and Igbo and other southerner unite to be formidable, like you have opined in your earlier calculation, me i no know.

Gerrard59:


If they practice or support at least half of those factors, how come Southern Nigeria is more prosperous than Northern Nigeria? Groups who practice those factors become prosperous over time. Something must be amiss somewhere.

cc: anonimi

they are largely dumb as rocks is why. There is mad money in the north! mad money! but concentrated in the hands of very very few. Has always been that way.

The south's enlightenment is our saving grace. Thanks to people like Awolowo. We are so vastly educated and enlightened, and that is why we are more prosperous. You can have rights and not even know how to use them!

anonimi:


If non Hausa-Fulani groups are BETTER quality than the Hausa-Fulanis, why have they not come together to make the democracy work in their favour to dominate? Did something like that not happen in 2011 presidential election?

Are there not 17/36 % senators and representatives from the south with 6/36 % from the Middle Belt and a few significant minorities in the NE and NW who can have an absolue 2/3rd majority for amending/changing laws and the constitution

The Hausa-Fulani MAY (but certainly the core Fulanis are) actually be less than Yorubas and Igbos but have ROPED in the northern minorities to create the illusion of greater numbers.

My point remains that the Hausa-Fulanis have BETTER quality than we noisemakers in the south. Much better quality to dominate us.

Hausa-Fulani are not less. Wetin you dey talk na.

Do you really believe Southern Nigeria has more numbers?? I would implore you to perish the thought. This one is not propaganda o, the north has far more numbers. Their crazy birth rate is enough evidence, as in enough said.

Haba

If you feel they are more quality, no lele. The quality dey show wella.

Gerrard59:


There are certain traits an ethnic or racial group or culture should espouse for economic development to thrive seamlessly. Some of which are:
- Pragmatism, not dogmatism
- Right to inquiry
- Right to criticise and to be criticised
- Protection of private property
- Support for free enterprise
- Personal freedoms in most aspects of human existence.
- The right to choose

Between the Han Chinese and Hausa-Fulani, which group supports/espouses/promotes/practices at least four of those factors?

brozay, this one no enter

The Hausa Fulani practices right to inquiry (the things they inquire about fit just dey worrthless and disappointing), they enjoy personal freedoms (too much freedom even, they get away with things we won't dare do in the south), the right to choose (they enjoy and brag about this one sef, even though no be sensible choices), right to criticize (they can even burn you or slit your throat with no consequence in broad daylight if you be Christian, elite or not).

They enjoy these rights, but are too dumb to use it in any way that is empowering, even to them. Do they criticize their leaders who pauperize them? No, not cos they can't, but they don't even have the sense or will to, but sprinkle a little religion and see that they know damn well how to exercise these rights.

anonimi:


When are you going to explain how a dominant group without quality is able to dominate those with quality

by a dysfunctional democracy..i spelt that out, how did you not see that?

You used Nigeria as an example, and rightly so. Our dominant group are archaic, and so thanks to democracy which is a game of numbers we largely remain archaic, cos unlike I who is exposed and educated and have two children, they at 15/16 years old probably already have more children than I do, and has been so for as long as I can remember. Southern Nigeria isn't the bloc fuelling the population explosion over the last 30 years, northern Nigeria is.

My parent's generation, average number of children born no fit pass 3. Our generation, pretty sure the average is 1

That's how

anonimi:


If the dominant group does not have quality, then h[b]ow did they become and remain dominant of other groups that have quality?[/b]

How do you resolve this inconsistency

sorry, just went back to re-check his post, and saw that he didn't put that there. So I will rightly help him upgrade/flesh up that concept.

The quality of the dominant group matters o. As you have rightly identified, as in the case of Nigeria, when the dominant group is still largely archaic, then we have what we have. Which is one of the reasons why we wonder how we keep getting the worst of us in the so-called democracy. It is cos the numbers of those who DONT have any semblance of sense far outstrips the number of those who do.

The dominant racial group we have is plagued with willful poverty and a gross aversion to education, and thus an aversion to a progressive existence....and that is one of the prime reasons we are where we are today. They know this and carry the badge of their huge numbers with pride.... unfortunately doing so ninu oshi at ise (lack and despondency), and dragging the rest of the country into the abyss.

Democracy is actually not just govt of the people as we tend to chorus, but in reality govt of the majority of the people....now when the quality of that majority is shit, then you are doomed. Will our dominant block somehow in no time become wiser, more enlightened, more educated? your guess is as good as mine.

Maybe in 300 years

anonimi:


I have seen you write about dominance of one tribe as necessary for national growth peacefully.
Are we not dominated by the Hausa-Fulani and yet we are so backward

he spoke about the quality of the dominant group.

jedisco:


Succinctly put. Legal Immigration opportunities the West is based on economic and political need. Like I keep saying, we did not come here on a 'diversity visa'. Whatever leal route we came by was made open because someone convinced the government they'd benefit more by having that pathway open than closed. Main issue is that many come in, think they've been done an eternal favour and are not driven to reach for higher heights which they have the potential for.

As the demographic decline continues, the next century will be dominated by a scramble for human resources same way the last few were dominated by a rush for natural resources. The west has found a way of doing this while convincing immigrant folks their worth lies in immigration. A good example has been India and China. Their GDP was close until 1995. China found a way to retain its best heads (even those educated abroad) and build wealth while India exported it's many good heads. Its the reason why I'm worried about Nigeria. We seem to be exporting our best heads (yes, I'm guilty) and sugarcoating achievements by Nigerians abroad means little to the home nation

this graph is a mouth-stopper💯😁🤣💯😁

This beautiful graph😍😍😍 is a picturesque definition of SUCCESS, and the great part about this is they have only just started.

Two countries with almost same population numbers, and look at how one has taken off. The right people and leadership is KEY!

When will/how can Nigeria have the right people? The majority are runts, some willfully, some by circumstance. So sad.

deept:


I lived in China for a year, given same conditions if I had to choose between living in China and the West, I'll pick china. Go to central Beijing CBD, it's almost like you are in central London very multi-cultural - bit exaggerated them too plenty for china so they population drown out population of foreigners. Night life is when you will see some sort of balance Westerners like the nightlife while the Chinese are mostly conservative.

The UAE and KSA have lots of restrictions like China because of their religion but Westerners troop in by the day. And if you go to a some of their expar forums, a lot of them prefer to live in these places than back home.

Some poster talked about child labour, the big Companies in the west are guilty because they outsource their 'child labour' to china and Africa and turn a blind eye and claim a moral high ground word for this hypocrisy. where are your iPhones and co manufatured, lithium for your EVs from child miners in central Africa. If it was a problem for the west, they would boycott these places and manufacture their goods in the west and not outsource manufacturing like they outsource their wars.

No place is utopia, you create yours. a man just wants to be king in his own house, tend his field, attend his feasts, make love, drink and merry. What works for one does not necessarily work for some other.

thanks for chipping in with useful info and not beer parlour gist. I can bet you that dude parroting unsubstantiated claims has never even been to China.

chatinent:
There should be a bigger superlative word for worst because that's the present situation.

worstest.....lol

080bjaked:



Quick updates, nha here we dey

you couldn't even update yourself on the child labour list you yourself quoted..You said China is top 10 na...another beer parlour gist parroted..and debunked.

I don look 1-40 tire I no see the historical child labor loving China o. Na Nigeria I see gidigba on number 10. And Gerrard59 already told you Nigerians wey never do NADA to shut up when the doers are doing their doings, but una no go hear.

Brother pls.

080bjaked:



If I drop links (btw same links a simple google search would have provided if you had bothered to look it up) , then we will start arguing about whether the articles are just "western propaganda". After we establish they are not, then you'd go the route that China is not the top 10 in Child labour countries so we'll have to argue (probably sprinkle some name-calling inside) that Chinese companies are linked to Child labour outside her borders using DRC Cobalt extraction indictment as proof and so on.

Instead of going that way Sir, lemme just say I am sorry, you are right, they are beer-palour discussions (the kind only Guiness and Heineken can induce). E ma binu.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_child_labour_rate

What number did you say China is on the child labour list abeg

See what I said about your thoughts not really being your own..... evidently.

Na Africa full there ooo, but somehow I should take your word for it that you've done your homework and you have strong convictions to back your pronouncements. Brother pls!

Stop eeet!

080bjaked:



If I drop links (btw same links a simple google search would have provided if you had bothered to look it up) , then we will start arguing about whether the articles are just "western propaganda". After we establish they are not, then you'd go the route that China is not the top 10 in Child labour countries so we'll have to argue (probably sprinkle some name-calling inside) that Chinese companies are linked to Child labour outside her borders using DRC Cobalt extraction indictment as proof and so on.

Instead of going that way Sir, lemme just say I am sorry, you are right, they are beer-palour discussion (the kind only Guiness and Heineken can induce). E ma binu.

you mean the debunked lies about urghurs abi... Which you have sensationalized further by adding 'children', e remain 'pregnant women'.

Humor me. But I must warn you, whenever I speak emphatically it isn't from guesswork or beerparlor gist, or skewed western propaganda news like the Ukrainians on snake island were killed that was false or how Russia fired weapons which were discovered to have actually been fired from Ukraine....no be surface level page 1 Google search I dey work with o..it is cos I have evidence to back up my words.

So let's go there, show me the evidence pls😁

I esp want to know what China stands to gain by forcing and using those folks and also 'children' to do work in those cotton fields that they have machines for, machines that will do it faster, and better, and cheaper...jobs which historically all Chinese who are interested do willingly during that time of the year..maybe some sado-masochism at play


China is working, their systems are working, their 'evil totalitarian autocracy' is working wonders, all things are working well for the almost 1.5billion Chinese. EOD
Can't say the same for Nigeria, not even in 300years.

The other day folks were dropping lines that would make you think Russians hide under their beds from intense fear, but thankfully same day we saw the parade of destroyed tanks in
same Russia and a ton of people having a blast, taking pics etc.

All the times I went to China I no see this forced labour wey BBC report, which has long been debunked but somehow has been seared into the hearts of many, despite no evidence. All the times I went to China I didn't see eerie fear in the people's eyes and somehow they still have over a billion of them living there.

Funny how mechanised China would opt to used hand pickers to pick cotton in the field in place of machines that are far cheaper and faster.

The west have really succeeded, people believe them without asking questions these days. So much for a democracy that still successfully conditions you to think ONLY the way they want you to think.

Can we call that autocracy in disguise...? Lol

080bjaked:


No, I believe this is very bad based on my personal values but brother, I'm not sure moralilty is a good ground to support China either, considering her history of forced child labour especially in the cotton and toy industries.

Honestly the west isn't doing well morally but China is worse. Difference is while one is over-pampering, the other is over-abusive.

do you work for the BBC? I ask cos you effortlessly parrot these sensational lines

'history of forced child labour'

Yet you only say these due to rumors and not from availability of incontrovertible evidence. Have you been to China and seen these 'children' forced to work? Describe what that is like pls. Do they whip them? Do they starve them? Do they work without pay? Give me something that shows you are not just typing beer parlour gist.

Lunatic

Sane people don't listen to you, go talk to your fellow numbskull at dem manna and trade words together on the subject of una fellow crazy daddy

Oneday82:
Everything about country now is pain and agony. And yet nobody is saying anything meaningful or acting towards that.

The only best way to get out this now is either Military take over or a massive revolution.

Things are getting worse by the day, while our politicians are busy leaving lavish lifestyle.

Today the price of fuel has gone up, $ to Naira is not smiling, foodstuffs still not shaking.

If you think all is well with Nigerians, then you must be a joke of the century.

The issue now is who will take the lead? The starvation is high and there is massive hunger in town.

If driving a car will make your family starve, kindly do yourself good and park the car and focus on feeding your family. Health is wealth.

This hardship is affecting everyone, irrespective of the party you are supporting, be it LP, APC, PDP etc. It's telling on everyone not two ways about it.

We should wake up and teach this politicians a big lesson and not allow them continue to use our brains for fried rice and chicken.

Nigerian Liberation #ISTAND

unity is a mirage that will never happen in this lifetime....maybe in another generation sha

Wereee!

Iro ti ba tiyin je patapata. No be your fault sha

jedisco:


It's said that if you take away the over 750million people China has lifted from poverty in a single generation, the world in general has made little progress in reducing poverty.
If China goes on to become the world dominant power, they stand the chance of being the first to achieve that with the lowest negative impact in human history. Their story has been an economic miracle. Thats what some folks comparing China to the US fail to understand- the miracle is that in 2024, China has become the elephant in the room.

I get your sense of frustration but in doing that, I'd avoid insulting your folks as it depicts self hate.



I said on another fora that just like with most things there would always be different routes and means to good governance
The role of every responsible government is to bring returns to the populace and foster the greater good. In this, China has exceedingly excelled. If we limit governance to whether they fit one world or another, then its a different story

your bolded line, is one of the things we agree on.

Autocracy is an option, and does not necessarily have to be seen as evil. Democracy is an option, and does not necessarily have to be seen as good....and vice versa. If you're a one-way thinker, that's fine too, but it is rather shallow to say someone is deadly simply because he isn't a one-way thinker as you are, and considers autocracy as an option.