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afrodoc2:
We will get to that part.

First tell me the trophies they won under Mourinho.

Then we can now ask whose fault it is that they were in the team in 2018-2019, 2019-2020, 2020-2021, 2021-2022 before we talk about 2022-2023.

Let’s do it year by year. Odoodun la n ro’rogbo.

, i give up. They didn't win any trophy without Mourinho, how did i not remember today is Monday ..

afrodoc2:
Which trophy did McTominay win with Mourinho?

Which trophy did Fred win with Mourinho?

This is why agenda is not good. The truth shall set you free.

Ok Doc, whose fault is it that we still have those two in the team this season?

MRTA7:
This is why I'm upset with ETH. I was willing to give him time but you cannot polish a turd. He is making a rod for his own back so I will watch him hang himself with his own rope with no pity.

I knew we have entered one chance, when McLaren was talking nicely about McTominay. I said it here than Ten Hag should not allow McLaren to deceive him into keeping McTom ooh. We manage to get a very good Manager in Ten Hag, but he decided to bring Steve McLaren on board. Time will tell sha

afrodoc2:
We thank Jose for promoting McTominay and buying Fred.

Very true Doc, and they won Trophies with Mourinho cos they fit his style of play. Other managers (most expecially Ten Hag) should have done away with one or both of them since Mourinho left. To be honest i never thought McTominay will make the bench in Ten Hag team this season.

Ellexy:
Isn't it obvious?

Obviously obvious to us, but not to our Managers sadly....

Ellexy:
Fergie won't win a spoon with McFred.

They are that terrible abi

dammywapes:
Is it that when these coaches got the man utd job the glazers cast a spell on them ? How do we get to considering arnautovic ? From van gal to mourinho to ole now eth they signed old strikers to spear head their attack.

Falcao
Ibrahimovic
Cavani
Ronaldo
Arnautovic may be

Fergie sef signed Henrik Larsson, so it's not new to the club...

Ellexy:
This season will actually be a good season.

Amen

No manager (maybe except Fergie or Jose) can achieve anything with a midfield of McFred, this is very visibly to the blind. How Ole, Rafiu didn't see it and now Ten Hag can see it beats me. Sign proper HMF he no gree sign, some dey tell us to name alternatives as if i be the club scout .....

Expert17:
Lol, I thought ETH is in charge of players identification/transfer?? watch how they will push the pursuit of abule egba Ibrahimovic (Arnautovic) on the board.

Mean sef tire ooh, we were even told Ten Hag know him (Arnautovic) well from their FC Twente days...

Neves, Ndidi doesn't fit into Ten Hag style of play, but McTominay does. Receipt plenty this season ...

FBS:
Just saw this

ChristoBam:
You still think this is on ETH and not the board. In what world is the manager supposed to be the one recruiting players into the team?

And we used half of the window negotiating for one single player and neglecting other targets.

These guys are so sinister they're going for Arnautovic now. They've done it in the past, going for Ighalo and Cavani late into the window. But this time they're going for a player that's played under ETH in the past. Y'all will say ETH requested for him specifically.

Are you saying Ten Hag is a puppet? is the bolded the board's choice or Ten Hag's? Oga he is to blame for this failed transfer window, you want the club to sign players he didn't sanction? Then later some of you will say the board did not buy him his prefered players. I have not blamed him for his taktiks yet ooh, we are still discussing how McFred fits his style but Neves, Ndidi doesn't....

Oasis007:
Jez a Reminder

Our Club Legend ...

nani667:
Ole deserves eternal blame... For the singular act of casually handing the captaincy to that Fridge

#OleOUT
#TrashlangaOUT
#TrashfordOUT
#TenHagOUT
#SackTheFrauds

The bolded i agree with . But Uncle Ten retained him as Captain, does this mean ETH is Ole 2.0 ...

ChristoBam:
Who else would I blame. You're saying a lot of players don't even deserve to be on the bench. These are players Ole was trying to build his team around.

While were complaining about Dalot's performance, he couldn't be subbed off. Guess why? No one can come in to do better. Where's our 50m RB?

Ten Hag had a full transfer window to make changes, but we are still where we are. I agree Ole bought some of the useless players we parade....

Illimitable:
But when Mourinho spoke his mind, the same retardëd United fans said he was disrespecting the club. How dare he compare Sevilla to the great Man Utd, they asked.

Mourinho was fighting for the fans in that press conference but they turned on him, they said he was toxic and negative. United haven’t come close to winning a trophy since the last one Mourinho won for them.

We know them here, but i won't mention names ..

melodyogonna:
Now that I think about it, I don't understand this manager saying he'd rather wait for "the right player" while playing McTominay in the meantime.
That seems weird to me.

You get the point now

ChristoBam:
Ole Fvcking ruined this team..3 years here and more than 300m spent buying total nonsense. Where we wan even start from like this?

We need at least 2 midfielders asap. None of McFred should be starting. A lot of our problems started with the inability to move the ball up to the front. So many break ups in play. Zero awareness also out of possession.

You are still blaming Ole ...

timay1:
I won't blame the coach yet for Mctominay display today.

The coach will only get the blame if there's no consequence for player's stupidity like during Ole's days where underperforming players keep getting played every week, that is when it's no more Mctominay being a useless player but the coach being stupid

How he is not seeing that McTom is useless beats me...

eph12:
People must learn by force. Shey they said this team competed for the league 2 seasons ago? No wahala na here we dey

Ten Hag said the team finished second 2 season back, i hope say him eyes don clear now.....

God hep us dis season

Lucyj55:
Dea gea

Dalot Maguire Martinez Malacia

Erisken Fred Bruno Fernandes

Sancho Ronaldo Rashford


Subistituon

Malacia out, Shaw In
Rashford Out, Garnacho in
Fred Out, Mactominay in

Iqbal in.

Oasis007:
EtH should lineup trio of Garnacho, Rashford and Sancho upfront. Bruno, Iqbal and Fred in Midfield. Dalot, Maguire, Martinez and Malacia in defense.

I like this lineup, just remove Garnacho for Ronaldo to start....

The GOHT, hope he starts since them no wan send him to reserve ...

Happy SIUUUUNDAY! The GOAT arrives.

[@footballdaily] pic.twitter.com/yqCAnrN1or

— The United Stand (@UnitedStandMUFC) August 7, 2022

Expert17:
His contract was not renewed by Sociedad, currently looking for another club.

The boy good, hope he gets a club soon..

patrickmuf:
He has not lived up to expectation...

He is not a sure starter but when he plays, you can see he is a good player...

Sad, but at least he is still playing well....

patrickmuf:
I still follow that guy...Such a talented player.

The pressure was too much for him under Moyes, hope he is doing well in Spain?

raumdeuter:
This was the time VVD stopped challenging and started running away

https://j.gifs.com/ROlvrz.gif

In all your years of watching football, when did you see a striker dribble a defender, now help to nurse him back up so he can re-dribble again

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6482532.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/Southampton-vs-Manchester-United.jpg

MRTA7:
Seems we're not really in for Fabian Ruiz as he's going to PSG. Sangare has signed a new deal at PSV.

Please this club don't come and ruin my Sunday.

Calm down, they will give us a good performance today...

afrodoc2:
It is important that the transition is handled well cos it is a critical time.

Another important decision is what to do with Iqbal, Savage, Garner, Hannibal. Apart from Savage who might benefit from 1 more year in the reserves in order to develop a bit more physically i don't think there is any benefit to giving them a few minutes here and there. It is either they are loaned out to get regular minutes or they are given the chance to play regularly for the senior team.

Benching them and waiting for McFred, Eriksen, VDB, Bruno to get injured will lead to stagnation.

A case in point is Adnan Januzaj, a very talent kid that was giving a job of saving the team in desperate times. I think a loan move to Championship Clubs would do them good.

afrodoc2:
Garnacho might be better rated. Playing or loaning a player is not always about rating but about giving a player games in order not to wreck his development. Some players depending on where they are in their development curve might need regular game time rather occasional minutes.

Case in point Laird is being considered for loan while AWB might be staying as back up. The manager believes Laird will benefit more from playing games rather than rotting on the bench behind Dalot. He might also think Garnacho will benefit more from regular games time elsewhere than rotting on the bench behind Rashford or Sancho.

Nobody that has seen both players will rate Elanga over Garnacho. Argentina called Garnacho to their senior camp at 17 before he had played a single senior club minute. However he MIGHT be at a critical point in his development where playing against grown men weekly is better than sitting on the bench waiting for Rashy and maybe even Sancho to get injured.

Not like I agree with the manager sha but I can see what his process is. If I were in charge I would give Laird and Dalot 50/50 game time cos with some many games this season PLUS World Cup in between there should be enough games for both of them. I honestly believe that by the end of the season Laird would have won that competition.
Garnacho just turned 18 so I would give him a full Under-23 season while he plays all Europa and League Cup games and makes EPL match day squad about half of the time.

You have to remember one last thing. What is best for the player long term might not be what is best for the club right now. It might be better for us this season to keep Garnacho in case of first team injury but better long term for him (and ultimately for us as well) to go on loan and get regular minutes.

You wrote it very well Doc....