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Okay but what I am trying to say that you seem not to get is that patriotism and national unity can only exist when the people are not been forced to subscribe to a country against their will, consent is key here.... I will repeat once more that the national referendum on Nigeria's unity which you continue to oppose out of glaring selfish tribal instincts you mentioned in an earlier comment you made here remains the main reason why true patriotism and national unity can not be achieved thereby having a negative impact on Nigerians voting pattern and electoral processes.... Don't expect capable competent leaders to be elected under this circumstances as voter participation and election outcome will always be skewed to favor sectional selfish tribal sentiments over national progressive ideals.... budaatum: |
You've continued to emphasize on elections and voters choice as being Nigeria's major problem when in reality the main problem is patriotism and national unity.... I asked you these questions to gauge your perspective towards Nigeria's absurd electoral outcomes. I don't understand the rationale behind the total trust you continue to place on Nigeria's electoral process when a contestant due to the privilege he enjoys as a seating president gets to appoint and control the head of the umpire (INEC) that will conduct and determine the result of an election in which he will participate as a contestant. In all you've said so far, your failure to acknowledge that rigged elections can also happen when presidential candidate chooses to impose his will on INEC as the seating president, exposes your naivety towards the deep systemic flaw that pervades Nigeria's electoral process. Also, how do you hope to get justice in court over potentially manipulated elections when the judiciary has shown itself to be willing tools in hands of corrupt politicians..... When judges that are meant to be independent are seen in public accepting gifts from politicians of the executive branch? All these surface issues I mentioned earlier, you are witnessing are only symptoms of the real issue which is at the root of Nigeria's existence. If the people can not exercise their basic fundamental rights to choose, give their consent over their willingness to belong or not to belong to a country, how then do you think patriotism and sustainable unity can be cultivated to tackle these issues? You can not expect a people forced into a union, who do not trust or accept themselves to make genuine sacrifices towards nation building, you can not expect a maximum participation in elections from them or think that they will vote based on national progressive ideals over sectional selfish tribalistic sentiments.... Presidential electoral outcomes based on these circumstances will continue to reinforce the notion that there is no unity among Nigerians, as a result of this, no good leader will be able to garner the support needed to rise and run a progressive inclusive government.... This is why an igbo presidency remains a taboo, no matter how hard you try to push Peter Obi, the foundational fault lines in Nigeria's polity will always prevail, it will never allow an igbo man like him become president even if he wins. All these political anomalies can not be addressed effectively if the unity of the people remains illusory as is the case now.... Only a free and fair national referendum can create the condusive environment for the people to exercise their true freedom towards building a better progressive just society that they can be proud of.... budaatum: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJxuy17yb8g Tinubu, governors, ministers, military generals go on a jamboree in UK while Nigeria's situation worsen as terrorists bomb Maiduguri and Nigeria plunged into darkness over gencos huge debts.... |
This may be the reason why Tinubu invested billions on Aso Villa solar installation.... he knew about this impending doom over mounting debts.... To demonstrate the height of irresponsibility he is busy partying in UK while Nigeria is in darkness.... |
I will pretend to accept your continued stance over voting making a difference and Tinubu winning the last election fairly even when there are several reports that he didn't so as to ask some questions I hope you will answer truthfully.... Let's assume you are Peter Obi or running as yourself in the next election against a terrible government like Tinubu's government that has failed on all fronts especially on security, will you accept a result that declares your opponent a winner in an election in which all indices points to a total rejection of your opponent's government and party? How do you justify your earlier stance of a fair 2023 election if such reoccurs again in 2027? Won't you declare such a result that does not reflect the mood of the majority as a product of a sophisticated rigged election? Does it make sense to you that a bad leader like Tinubu will get a second term? Of course it doesn't and can't make sense but that will be the outcome of next year's election not because many Nigerians like you didn't vote against him but because of the cosmetic union designed to foster retrogression that has been active since Nigeria's independence.... I do not share in your warped sentiments of heaping all national problems on voters choice and elections because Nigeria's underlying fragile unity is built on lies and injustice.... It is futile asking me to run for office in such circumstances, as I stated earlier, this dysfunctional foundation will continue to haunt all democratic processes including elections, the economy and government until it is tackled and addressed by Nigerians..... budaatum: |
Then you are part of the problem for supporting Nigeria's forced cosmetic unity because a union built on mutual understanding is measured by the level of freedom that can be exercised within it..... When it is forced as it is been done in Nigeria then it is no longer a fair union but an unwanted prison for all parties involved.... True patriotism to one's nation is measured by uncompulsive willingness to sacrifice for the greater good of others and not only for yourself.... Nigeria will remain a retrogressive nation, it's unity will remain a lie until it is tested on the alter of truth through a free and fair national referendum that will allow all indigenous people to express their true position about it.... 2027 election will come and pass as you and so many others pretending about Nigeria will complain once more all over social media about APC controversial election victory, you will continue to play with surface issues while the real foundational issue remains at the root, frustrating all political and economic processes within Nigeria.... budaatum: |
Apart from Jonathan's government that pretended to do something about this issue, no other Nigerian leader will entertain or allow a national referendum to take place because they know that it will expose the one Nigeria fraud.... This issue transcends party politics and elections because it is the root of Nigeria's problem.... |
You know what I mean by a national referendum and not the usual 4 year cycle elections that are conducted to install political leaders. I've made my opinion why successive governments have continued to shy away from conducting a national referendum on Nigeria's unity.... The reason for this coverup, is why Nigeria can never make any progress as it will continue to regress until the truth prevails.... Did Tinubu win the last presidential election fairly? budaatum: |
You are free to check my profile if in doubt..... I expect a rich intellectual discourse from you and not the usual gutter petty party politics.... DeLaRue: |
If you read the post, you will know I've no preferred candidate in any Nigerian election. If you can't proffer any meaningful solution apart from the usual divisive rhetorics of Obi vs Tinubu that pervades this forum then it is best to remain silent... DeLaRue: |
@givedemwotowoto I look forward to your take on these issues.... |
Below is a link to my reply to your comment https://www.nairaland.com/8638052/why-nigeria-urgently-needs-national givedemwotowoto: |
I will use this medium to reply to @givedemwotowoto and other commentators who made comments in a previous thread titled - "Peter Obi Has Been Fooling Nigerians For Too Long" I posted in support of 2027 elections, making the argument that large number of Nigerians trooping out to vote in the next election will somehow overwhelm the riggers. Yes, I do agree to an extent that the liklihood of stopping Tinubu and APC may be possible if a large number of Nigerians participate in the next presidential election but this is only an unrealistic assumption that personally I believe is impossible now since the president control INEC and has demonstrated his complicity through the omission of mandatory electronic transmission of results in the recently passed electoral reform law. The major reason why I do not think that elections can make any lasting positive impact towards addressing the problems of Nigeria is because overtime i came to the realization that there are certain pertinent factors that must be addressed before any meaningful progress can be made through elections in Nigeria. I will list and explain these factors below. High cost of living, deliberately engineered deprivation of the masses Elections in Nigeria even when conducted on a free and fair basis will not reflect the true will of the people when poverty and systemic deprivation has been weaponized by powerful political forces that will always be used as bargaining chip to subvert democratic processes. A bad leader like Tinubu knows this very well and will exploit it to the fullness in the run up to the 2027 presidential election. Vote buying remains a critical factor that will always determine to a large extent the outcome of any election, as long as the masses remain poor, highly taxed and are continually in need of refuge from the high cost of living, deliberately orchestrated by Tinubu and his government, a vicious cycle that will never allow the true will of a large voting block to thrive. So just like 2023, many Nigerians out of desperation will still sell their votes to ensure APC wins. Tribal religious indiced divisive political ideologies Nigerians are deeply tribal religious people, highly sentimental towards every national issues even when it goes against their personal interests. There is no way a national election just like every other national issue won't be view through the lense of tribalism and religion by a large population of Nigerians who due to sentiments will support, fight other Nigerians and vote massively to ensure that Tinubu's Yoruba, Muslim/Muslim government get a second term. Education has no impact in curbing such sentiments because it will surely play a crucial role in the next presidential election, giving Tinubu and his party APC the required boost to win the election. Deep corruption, greed and selfish impulses Another major problem that has overtime taken a deep rooted position in Nigeria's national polity is corruption, greed and selfishness. These vices knows no tribal affiliation among Nigerians when it comes to political national issues and events. This is why in every election cycle, a large number of Nigerian youths become political thugs for hire, they become willing tools in the hands of desperate politicians to hijack ballot boxes, kill political opponents and vote for corrupt politicians. Many Nigerians view election season as a time to make money from corrupt selfish practices, especially INEC officials, electoral officers and opposition party agents. Instead of working towards national progress, they will do all within their power once bribed by dirty politicians to sabotage the electoral process in favor of their paymasters..... 2027 presidential election will not be different as many Nigerians just like 2023 will fall to their corrupt, selfish, greedy vices to ensure a massive victory for APC. Lack of patriotism over one Nigeria project Since independence, many Nigerians have failed to demonstrate true patriotism towards their country. This in my opinion to a large extent is because of the circumstances on which the country came into existence. A forced union, bringing different highly sectional people together without their consent in to a British creation. I will say this was deliberately done by the country's founders and their British colonial masters in order safeguard selfish political interests that is not in the interest of the people. Anyone still in doubt should ask the question, why has successive governments since independence shyed away and continue to shy away from conducting a national referendum on Nigeria? The answer is simple, because Nigeria's unity is cosmetic, it is not real. If a referendum is conducted today, I believe over 80% will vote to leave the union including a sizable number from the north who will be happy to form an independent Islamic country for themselves. Nigeria is a country of pretenders lying to themselves that they care about one Nigeria when in reality they don't, that's why they continue to exhibit nonchalant selfish attitude towards every national issue, nothing can work when the people are too sectional to be together, when they do not love a country simply because they feel forced to remain in a union in which there is no inherent demonstrable value they can see to inspire patriotism.... This is why the criminals leading the country can rig elections, loot the treasury, get away with unspeakable atrocities and you see Nigerians do nothing to confront them but complain on social media.... Nigeria is a nation without a soul, until all indigenous people are given the chance to give their consent, have their say about their true position as regards Nigeria through a national referendum, the situation will only continue to get worse as we will keep going around in circles ..... No presidential, legislative or government election can address any of the other factors I highlighted earlier like bad leaders, poverty, tribalism, corruption, selfish politics and so on with out the people confronting this foundational issue that has continued to haunt Nigeria till this day..... This is why just like 2023, the outcome of the 2027 elections won't be different, it won't make any positive difference in the lives of Nigerians.. The people must seat, tell themselves the truth and renegotiate their union in a round table before any genuine progress can be made. |
Your comment accusing Nnamdi Kanu of receiving stipends under Jonathan is simply not true.... Kanu formally founded IPOB in 2012 and was even actively running Radio Biafra as far back as 2009 before forming IPOB.... How can you claim that he was receiving stipend when it was under the same Jonathan's government that he started IPOB..... garykoeman: |
APC does not need to rig all states to influence the final outcome of a presidential election…. What they need to rig are swing states which obviously was the case in the last election coupled with an aggressive vote buying scheme and a compromise INEC ready to validate questionable falsified polling results…. Parachoko: |
It is my thread so keep fooling yourself here..... FSBoperator: |
You and those liking your comments here are all shameless, I will gladly oblige as I expect you to continue fooling yourself on my thread.... You have all day to make a jest of yourself in your quest to peddle lies against Nnamdi Kanu.... shameless people FSBoperator: |
At this point, you are only making a jest of yourself, don't forget it is my thread and it is well within my rights to reply so you are the one crying here.... FSBoperator: |
Go to your court of injustice.... How convenient! You've been exposed..... You've no shame.... Answer the question I asked earlier if you've the guts..... FSBoperator: |
It's pathetic that you've failed to make any valid point to defend your argument as you keep parroting the usual "Kanu is a convicted terrorist." rhetorics.... You will be a liar to deny all that I've said so far because I asked you simple question which you've refused to answer because you know the truth but chose to peddle lies, you lack integrity.... It's a shame.... Quote me again at your own peril.... FSBoperator: |
As long as you continue to quote me, I will continue to press your neck because you know the truth but chose to support illegality and injustice.... Nigeria will not make any genuine progress with the kind of mentality so many people like you continue to exhibit on this platform and all over the country.... Supporting evil due to tribalism..... There is no law in Nigeria or outside Nigeria that supports abduction of a person from another country without legal extradition. Apart from his illegal abduction, several other constitutional provisions was clearly violated in the cause of his trial that was conveniently swept under the carpet by the corrupt judges. You will do yourself a big favor by not quoting me any further on this thread.... FSBoperator: |
What crime did Nnamdi Kanu commit? Is self-defense a crime? Nigeria is a lawless country masquerading as a democratic entity.... If you read the post I made at the beginning of this thread, I made it clear that Nnamdi Kanu can not get justice from Nigeria's compromised courts because the powers that be in control of all sensitive institutions including the judiciary will not allow it..... IMHO, Kanu's freedom will come not from a judicial process but a political arrangement.... I will ask you one more time, what crime did Nnamdi Kanu commit to be labeled a terrorist? FSBoperator: |
"Competent" court of law? You continue to dodge the question I asked earlier regarding the constitutional implications of extraordinary rendition of Kanu.... I've made the case that no law in Nigeria or outside Nigeria supports the act of abducting any person from another country without legal extradition..... Injustice Omotosho and his compromised legal colleagues in the supreme court violated both local and international law to jail Nnamdi Kanu.... You may continue to whitewash illegality but as I said earlier, locking Kanu will not stop the fulani Islamic jihadists killing your people..... FSBoperator: |
Nnamdi Kanu needs no sermon because he is innocent..... I created this thread to make the case towards this notion, as a reminder to you and others here that your lies and maneuvering will not save you from what is coming..... He has done is part by telling the truth, he will get justice when the time comes..... FSBoperator: |
If you read my post properly you would've known my stance on Peter Obi as I did not place him as the face of restructuring..... I only made a recommendation that he will go a long way in helping Nigerians if he joins the struggle.... Peter Obi is a very popular politician with a large number of supporters.... FSBoperator: |
You are not the creator of any man or this world so your hate filled words over Nnamdi Kanu's future is empty and worthless.... You should be worried about your own future as fulani jihadists gain ground in your region..... My consolation is that you and many others on this platform castigating Kanu will not escape or hide from the truth which Nnamdi Kanu preached consistently about Nigeria's bleak future as it unfolds before you..... FSBoperator: |
Watched your embeded Twitter video and smiled.... What was the outcome of 2023 election to justify voting again in 2027? You think I am working for any political party to discourage people from voting? If you did not learn from 2023 rigged election, you will surely learn the hard way in 2027 when APC rigs again and declares Tinubu the winner. What is your plan to stop the evil government from rigging when INEC, judiciary and other sensitive institutions have been captured? You will only be deceiving yourself to think that Tinubu who came in like a theif in 2023 will fold his arms and allow a fair election in 2027. Are you and other Nigerians that want to vote prepared to protest non-stop knowing fully well that the system will never be fair..... I've already made my opinion public as to what will make a difference in a previous thread I posted which is a national referendum towards a total decentralization or disintegration of Nigeria.... Nothing else matters..... givedemwotowoto: |
It is glaring that all what you've spilled here are all figments of your imagination with no proof or evidence to back up your claims, just undiluted propaganda to blackmail Sowore.... FSBoperator: |
I quoted the sections of your constitution to buttress my point but you've quoted none, you are the one relying on technicalities because the 1999 constitution is clear and unambiguous over this matter.... Nigeria's Supreme Court judges violated the constitution and international law in their controversial ruling as regards the extraordinary rendition of Nnamdi Kanu from Kenya.... These judges abused their offices and public trust in order to push through an illegal trial.... When judgement can be bought and manipulated by the highest bidder in the highest court, lawlessness becomes the order of the day.... Keep hanging on the straws of injustice, you may think this judicial injustice will end with Nnamdi Kanu, it won't as you will surely face the consequences in due time and will cry out for justice but you will get none.... Nnamdi Kanu will regain his freedom when the time comes..... FSBoperator: |
Funny comment, Nigeria declared itself a lawless nation the day Nnamdi Kanu was illegally abducted from Kenya. I specifically asked the other user to explain constitutional implications of extraordinary rendition because I knew he knows that in trying to explain, he will indict himself.... You noticed that in his last comment he stylishly omitted it but your take regarding the matter is laughable, you clearly do not know the legal implications..... Below is a snippet that should enlighten you.... "Extraordinary rendition of Nnamdi Kanu from Kenya in 2021, is widely considered an illegal, extrajudicial transfer in violation of the 1999 Nigerian Constitution, international law, and extradition protocols. It violates fundamental rights to liberty, fair hearing, and human dignity under Sections 35 and 36 of the Constitution. While courts deemed the rendition illegal, legal battles continue over whether it vitiates the subsequent trial. Key Constitutional & Legal Implications: Fundamental Rights Violation: The forced abduction and transfer without legal process (extraordinary rendition) directly violates Section 35 (liberty) and Section 36 (fair hearing) of the 1999 Constitution. Illegality Overrides Jurisdiction Argument: Critics argue that because the Nigerian government violated its own laws and international law to obtain custody of the suspect, the court should not have jurisdiction to try him, as "you cannot break the law to enforce it". African Charter Violations: The rendition breaches Articles 9 and 12(4) of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights (ratified by Nigeria), forbidding arbitrary arrest and expulsion. ECOWAS Court Ruling: In July 2022, the ECOWAS Court of Justice ruled that the rendition was unlawful, ordering Nigeria to pay ₦500 million in damages. Judicial Controversy: While the Court of Appeal initially ordered the release of Nnamdi Kanu in 2022 due to the illegal rendition, the Supreme Court in 2023 allowed the trial to continue, ruling that the manner of acquisition of a defendant does not automatically stop a trial, despite the fact that there were glaring evidence of rights violation. Precedent (Abacha v. Fawehinmi): Defense teams argue that the 2023 Supreme Court ruling contradicts the 7-member panel ruling in Abacha v. Fawehinmi on the binding nature of the African Charter. Key Incidents: Nnamdi Kanu (2021): Taken from Kenya to Nigeria without legal extradition. Umaru Dikko (1984): Historical precedent of illegal kidnapping attempts. The Nigerian Supreme Court has ruled that while extraordinary rendition is illegal and a violation of rights, the trial itself can proceed, creating a deeply controversial interpretation of constitutionalism and rule of law in Nigeria." FSBoperator: |
If all that you could deduce from the video was Peter Obi then you didn't watch the video.... Sowore spoke on so many other issues beyond Peter Obi, he said it all.... He was spot on regarding fundamental issues on how many Nigerians including you think towards fighting for your rights and participating in politics.... Thundafireseun: |
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