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Can you prove that unknown gunmen (UGM) terrorizing and killing people in south east are ordinary igbo people? How are you so sure when there are several revelations that those behind these killings are actually government sponsored. It is political motivated to push a divisive agenda againsts those agitating for Biafra (IPOB) and Nnamdi Kanu....

OverCalculating:
You are right...I guess that the points of concern of the OP are centered on the unity of the people advocating for Biafra. They need to all start from somewhere...they can all pass a compelling message if majority of them choose to develop their territory in a way that other regions would feel that they are truly ready to stand on their own. Instead of killing themselves, halting business activities, destroying their natural resources just because they want to pass a message, they should start thinking about it in a positive way. If there would ever be a territory called Biafra tomorrow, it will not be on a special location, soil or territory other than where their forefathers chose as their dwelling place. So, why destroy your home before you can prove to your parents that you are grown enough live on your own?

Nigeria can never make any genuine progress in it's current form unless it is totally restructured to devolve political/economic powers to states/regions (Total Decentralization). If total restructuring can not be done then a dissolution of the country through a peaceful referendum remain the surest part to salvation....

It is glaring from your submission that your understanding of the purpose of Biafra is kinda skewed because all igbos don't need to migrate back to South East to prove that they want their own country. Take for example, the Chinese/Asian people, they live, invest and work in other countries outside China. It does not mean that they don't come back home (China) once in a while to connect with other chinese people living and working in China . Biafra or any other name given to the igbo country when actualized will bring about massive industrial development due to political/economic autonomy, giving the igbos 100% control/ownership of all land, natural resources in the South East.....

Apart from Biafra, I will reiterate that dividing Nigeria in to several countries will go a long way to foster peace and prosperity for all indigenous people within other regions.... In the event of a dissolution, the north will finally be able to create their own islamic republic and practice sharia while indigenous people of the south south and south west will setup their own countries to advance their interests without the toxic ethnic noise and political sentiments of one Nigeria....

When you say vote Tinubu, note that this means a mixture of vote buying and sophisticated rigging system.... Tinubu can not win in a free (No Vote Buying) and fair (No Rigging) election....

DomPerignon:
No one needs your votes.

Edo, Akwa Ibom, Rivers, Delta and Cross River will vote Tinubu.

Benue, Taraba, Adamawa, Gombe, Kwara, Niger, Southern Kaduna, Kebbi , Abuja , Plateu, Nassarawa will vote Tinubu.

The entire SW will vote Tinubu.

At least 23 states are already for Tinubu.

And he will do very well in other northern states even tho he might not win.

Even in your SE, he will also do well in Enugu, Ebonyi and Imo. Only Abia and Anambra he will lose as in 2023.

This is the harsh reality.

Abia state governor Alex Otti is next potential APC defector in south east.... Never underestimate how far Tinubu can go with his dirty politics..... Nnamdi Kanu's freedom will be offered as a political gift to Otti for his defection.... The way it is going by November 2026, all mushroom opposition parties including ADC will be left with no option but to collapse their platforms because by then, sadly it will be too late to stop Tinubu....

Streetinvestor2:
He doesn't know the name SW president is now a taboo in SE.Nobodo can come out to even campaign with it and not collect

No one can wake someone pretending to sleep.... What is happening now in Nigeria under Tinubu is so unprecedented....

HgAkpobomeEr:
No one-party state can win election in Nigeria.

Tinubu did not need the South East votes to win in 2023.... He won't need it in 2027....

Streetinvestor2:
He won't see 10k votes in SE.We don't vote party. Is thr any reason SE or igbos will vote SW president. The SE are not transport union workers. We have our own mind.You will understand when campaign start

As Fubara's defection to APC, a deal which was allegedly done since last year comes to pass today, anyone still deceiving him or herself that Nigeria is a democracy with a multi party system needs a hard knock on the head. Governor Fubara's defection has sealed Tinubu's massive 2027 victory as APC can now officially state that they own Nigeria as their one-party state evil agenda is almost complete. Once Bayelsa State governor Diri who delayed his defection last month, activates it then it is done.....

Nigerians who are still sleeping and deceiving themselves thinking that they can vote out Tinubu in 2027 are in for a rude shock that many may never recover from. I can comfortably tell you now that it will be a futile exercise. Tinubu's massive victory leveraging his one-party state network with the economic situation will be so big and loud... Mushroom opposition parties like ADC and PDP will be disgraced out of the election....

Tinubu and his party can not be stopped through election voting..... he controls all institutions and swing states including the northern states that some Nigerians still believe that he does not control because at the appointed time, heavy weight northern politicians like Kwankwaso, governors and co will come on board.....If Nigerians are serious about ending the evil APC government, Tinubu must be disqualified from participating in the next election using the criminal cases of forged documents (perjury), US drug related case and other crimes that were revealed during the last election about him. All well-meaning Nigerians must push for his disqualification as a pre-condition for 2027 presidential election to hold.... IMHO, I will say that the best action will be to demand for no election to hold by 2027 until a national referendum takes place to totally restructure (total decentralization) or divide Nigeria

Allowing Tinubu to remain as president till 2027 to contest the next pesidential election only guarantees a massvie nationwide victory for the APC...Nigerians hoping to vote him out are only wasting their time.

Nigeria is now officially a one-party state....

Yes share your evidence....

aswani:
Funniest thing I have read on here so far, you actually want evidence of Ohamdike preaching hate about other tribes.

Per Helinues, good on him for not been afraid to publicly change his mind about the government.

The greatest saboteurs are African leaders like Tinubu and co who are litrarily slaves to the western imperialists.... The military coups are signs that Francophone Africans are ready to liberate themselves... Tinubu, ECOWAS, AU and France may have succeeded in stopping today's Benin coup but it won't stop another from happening until the people are liberated....

eepeepook:
If the people stand firm, France can’t do anything. Unfortunately there are greedy human beings of black African descent. Like we are cursed, these people will always trample on the rights of the average person in a bid to feel superior. The white man preys on greed. They are then used to hold others down.

The example of Haiti will always be a good one when it comes to black people holding their ground against Caucasian forces. They’re worse off, but their pride as a nation remains. The issue is African governments are stooges to the white man. Supporting Haiti will never be in their agenda.

Want know how cool and advanced the igbo version of Nsibidi was? Checkout the link below and download pdf document.... The Brtitish destroyed our heritage in order to conquer us.... We had a beautiful inteligent writting system that was way better than English... Something similar to the Chinese/Ancient Egyptian way of writing.... I will use this medium to advise igbos to start learning Nsibidi and hopefully south east governors will make it a requirement in schools.... It's not too late to reclaim our ancestrial heritage....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://okwuid.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Nsibidi_Workbook_1.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjgrceuha6RAxW_7jgGHQYjHecQFnoECGAQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2l4rTsT16zDk7awRYHKcB2

I will keep it short, the simple reason behind these coups is France. The people want to be free from France control over their countries and natural resources. Tinubu is a stooge of France President Macron, he will be used to try to subdue any attempt by the military of these west african countries to destroy the status quo but will fail.... No one can stop an idea whose time has come! The military coups will continue to happen until France leaves these countries alone....

What you said about Nnamdi Kanu is not completely true as I will challenge you to provide evidence regarding how Kanu preached hate about other tribes. Are you aware that Kanu made a video apologizing over some of what he said that were said out of anger/frustration due to unjust actions towards igbos/IPOB not because he hates any tribe. Before you quote my comment, note that this thread is not about Nnamdi Kanu....

garykoeman:
How can someone who supported nnamdi kanu, who preached ha-te against other tribes talk about ev-il.

helinues is a life-long Nairaland APC/Tinubu super supporter.... He was an APC super hero..... I still remember how he took the political fanatical praise singing here to another level through augmenting his comments with fake likes just to boost support for APC and Tinubu.... Today's self imposed confession should serve as a bitter lesson to his base as it is still a mystery regarding what prompted helinues outburst against an evil government he loves.....

LagosOrigin:
His suspension should be permanent

Is this how you console yourself while supporting your evil APC governemnt....

garykoeman:
All these nnamdi kanu followers and peter obi supporters

Wow! what a "temporary suspension" from the one and only HELINUES (Tinubu/APC Number Fan Of Nairaland)!

I read the thread "Temporary Suspending My Support For This Government".... in which helinues made a funny announcement of "temporarily" burying his/her evil past....

Since 2015, you supported all evil policies of APC, Buhari and Tinubu leading to the destruction of so many lives in Nigeria.... Now you find it convenient to "temporarily" jump ship? I told you on several threads that you will be the one wailing over Tinubu before he leaves power.... I told you that you will not escape the consequences of his evil government as it will eventually consume you.... now the chickens have finally come home to roost! Your senses seem to have been restored, it is now functional to realize that human life been wasted daily over Tinubu's willful incompetence should mean something....

To all other yoruba tribal champions on Nairaland actively supporting Tinubu and his evil government, let helinues ordeal and action serve as a pointer that nothing good comes from supporting evil, promoting hateful tribalism or praising bad governance.... If you do not change your ways, you will not also escape whatever evil consequencies that may arise from your actions. What happened to helinues will happen to you as well until you openly confess on Nairaland and renounce your evil deeds just like he/her did....

There is no peace for the wicked.....

Igbos are better off leaving Nigeria.... IMHO, the best thing that will happen to all indigenous people of all regions is for the British contraption called Nigeria to end.... Restructuring (Total Decentralization) remains a workable alternative if Nigeria must continue to exist....

doncartel:
Let’s leave the presidency for the other tribes and focus on building up our Igbo states. That’s why I like Edo people. They have never tried to contest presidency or anything, they are content with their own space and culture.

helinues hahahahahahaahahahahahaha

Wonders shall never end....

helinues since you mentioned my ID here, I may provide a robust response in new thread soon....

helinues:
truthera come and convince those who are skeptical about your Biafra with the points raised above

Hahahahaha! I gave a simple analogy in my comment to the previous user to buttress why there is no way this can be achieved through NASS.... Again, you lied when you said Nnamdi Kanu's Biafra agitation is nothing short of igbo expansionism because if it was then the igbos would not be asking for a peaceful referendum instead they would've simply started another war in a bid to forcefully expand their territory.... I've read many of your comments to understand that you dwell so much on conjectual grandstanding and emotional triatribs not rooted in truth, facts or reality.... Can you prove the accusations you made against IPOB beyond all reasonable doubt?

DomPerignon:
So how are you going to achieve this Biafra of a thing?

Is it on Social media?

Is it by lobbying Trump to send US troops go come down and forcibly carve out Biafra in the same manner Ojukwu envisioned it with an annexed SS? Because that is what IPOB has proposed in Washington with a naive and ignorant US Senator basing Biafra on Simon Ekpa's map.

Or is it by sitting at home and sending your criminals in IPOB to murder indiscriminately your own people you say you are fighting to liberate?

The only solution you have is through the NASS.

But you won't do this because you know if you went through this same route it will eventually see to a referendum first in the senate by senators from the SS in your proposed Biafra contraption refusing to be part of your dead country .

This will see to only the 5 core ibo States voting in the Senate and the referendum limited to those States which is what you don't want .

What is Biafra that you describe as a freedom movement is nothing short of ibo expansionism which you know you can never achieve by war or through legal means and so that is why you are shamelessly calling on Trump to come and help you annex SS in exchange of given the US control of the oil that you do not own in the first place.

Well, I admire your optimism and undying hope that the unjust British entity called one Nigeria can some how grant the igbos agitating to exercise their rights to self-determination a peaceful referendum through a political solution.... Hopefully igbo men reading this thread who are actively in the National Assembly or are aspiring to be in the Senate or house of reps can push such bill to vindicate you. But until it happens, I think you need to look at the present, if a restructuring bill that would have benefited all Nigerians including you can be vehemently rejected and not entertained then do not think for a second that a referendum bill in favour of a tribe like the igbos will succeed....

aswani:
Look at the Peter Obi effect last elections, it is gone now thanks to Obidients, and tell me that the electorate don't have any power.

SanwoOlu was literally soiling his pants as Chinedu Gbadebo would have toppled him if not for the fact that that one is senseless and doubled down on his Anti Yourba tweets.

Look at the Obidient tsunami in Edo state and see how LP won Abuja seats in various states.

The electorate do still have power and my belief is when rightly harnessed, the political class will be in trouble.

You haven't even tried the political route yet but you are saying it wouldn't work. Try it and let's see where exactly the pipe is blocked so it can be addressed.

Can you or any other Nigerian recall an Abuja rep easily in one Nigeria? You know how powerfully entrenched these politicians are in their constituencies, you know how corrupt your country is that you can not easily succeed in such endeavour.... How is Akpabio who did not participate in the last Senatorial election still a Senator and your Senate President?

I still maintain that the only way out is for all ordinary people from all regions to rise up and end Nigeria or restructure it.... You can not leave Nigeria by participating politically through occupying public offices as the system is designed to entrap you.... I asked you a question in my previous post which is obvious from your reply that you already know the answer but chose to wallow in the illusion that Nigeria is a normal country like Ireland and Britain....

aswani:
If is was "massively supported by Nigerians", why were the ones that opposed it not called to order and voted out?

The bill in your link has nothing to do with Biafra secession, why is it so important to your being for you to bring it up in this discussion.

Nigerian politicians might be selfish but as people showed by voting Peter Obi to give him third position, the electorate still have a say.

Put yourself forward as a candidate for Biafran actualisation next legislative elections and let's see how much people believe in you and vote you in.

Do you remember the Nigeria Restructuring Economic 2021 Bill news that went viral last year? (https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/02/of-constitution-review-and-restructuring/)

That restructuring bill was great and got massive support from Nigerians but what did your Abuja reps and federal government do? They rejected it, called it fake news and buried it. This should give you a clue that there is no political route to leaving Nigeria....

I am not sure why your continued hold on an illusion that your one Nigeria selfish politicians who can not even support the call for restructuring will some how allow the passage of a referendum bill for igbos to leave Nigeria....

aswani:
I suspect you will be very surprised by how quickly a referendum Bill might pass through parliament if proposed.

I have always said that Ndigbo separatists should try that route first and let's see those that would vote against the Bill passing through parliament.

Rather than all the "it will never work anyway" defeatist attitude.

Comparing Ireland to Nigeria is akin to comparing Apples to Oranges.....

If you quoted the complete reply I made to you, I had said that Nigeria is a weapon of control, you are seeking permission from people (politicians) you share nothing in common, who believes that the only way they can thrive is by keeping you locked into one Nigeria, a few powerful men and women with their foreign counterparts who share same entitlement mentality that they own Nigeria and it's resources. In summary, what I am trying to tell you is that no one can unilaterally leave Nigeria without a fight. If you didn't learn anything about what Nigeria represents till now then you should've learnt something from the blatantly unjust trial and imprisonment of Nnamdi Kanu....

No matter what you do in one Nigeria, as long as you are in a democracy (cosmetic democracy) that relies on the principle of a simple majority, you will always be systematically drawn against the interests of others from other regions. IMHO, You can not leave Nigeria by participating with it politically unless the people of all regions rise up to either end it or restructure it....

aswani:
This is blatantly false, as a Senator or Representative, you can put forward a bill for a referendum on self determination in any part of the country.

It's a motion that if majority do support, can then be the start of your being a separate nation moving forward. You wanting to be a nation is definitely not inimical to Nigerian interests as there will still be a Nigeria after you have left.

That aside, Northern Irish politicians from Sinn Fein did something in the UK that is a good template for Biafran separatists, they put themselves forward for office and did not go to the Houses of Parliament when they won elections as they refused to swear an oath to the monarch.

Now they have their parliament at Stormont as a direct result and have even been part of the devolved Northern Irish government before.

So try the political route first.

As I said Ojukwu's actions and his Biafra is gone. What ever actions he took against minorities who did not support him can not be undone. The same way there were many minorities who supported him, there were those who did not support him or Biafra.

Regarding your submission that igbos can leave by voting in Abuja reps, you know that this is not possible because once you as a politician is appointed to a public office, you take the oath to defend and serve one Nigeria. The problem you seem not to grasp is that Nigeria was constitutionally/systematically designed to entrap it's indigenous people. You must seek support of those who you share nothing in common to allow you to leave that's if you have Abuja reps who are not selfish and corrupt. Even if the Igbo reps push for such bill in the house, it will be struck out by other reps mainly from Northern and South Western regions.... Nigeria is a weapon of control that will keep on producing returns for it's creator the British, their western allies and their local benefisheries enjoying it's natural resources unless it is totally restructured (Decentralised) or dissolved.... I believe it has to end for true justice to reign.... IMHO, Nigeria thrives on the divisive sentiments it creates to keep the people in control, no one can leave because others will work against you as it is how the system works.... You will understand this in due time....

aswani:
You can leave the contraption by voting in Abuja reps and senators who will propose the motion. Why not try that route first?

The ones there now from Aligbo are angrily walking out because their indiginisation bill wasn't passed. A bill that's the direct opposite of the separatism you people on Nairaland claim is supported by lots of Ndigbo.

Why not recall all of them and replace them with those that are ready to push your separatism agenda starting from a referendum.

Per not forcing people to be part of anything, why would you even put them there in the first place? Even Yoruba that Benin people have closer ties to wouldn't attempt it.

Ojukwu's Biafra with it's imperfection ended since 1970, it's gone....

The modern igbo nation being pushed by Nnamdi Kanu called Biafra or whatever name it will eventualy be called will not force any one to be part of it as Kanu has rightly said all will be given the right to choose to join through a peaceful referendum and I agree. Nigeria remains a zoo if not for any other reason but the fact that the rights of the indigenous people to self-determination is not recognized, they cannot leave, anyone like Nnamdi Kanu agitating for his people and ancestral land to leave the contraption are criminalized, labeled separatists or terrorists and jailed.... If you are proud being part of this injustice, this prison called Nigeria, then you have no reason to complain over the unjust actions of your Nigerian leaders against you.....

aswani:
Imagine, they even had igodomigodo province.

The hypocrisy of complaining about Nigeria and having provinces outside of Ndigbo speaking land is lost on them.

Hmmmm at times, the truth is bitter, you don't have to read my post as it is not a must for you to interact here.... Seem you are a Peter Obi supporter, if you truly care about your political idol, then tell him the truth. As long as he is an igbo man, Nigeria will definitely teach him another lesson in 2027....

wakaman:
just shut up. Shut up, shut up and shut up again.

Well said! ..... OP, the writer is too generous with words as it is not a case of institutional ego but institutional corruption. There is no way to sugarcoat the illegality, corruption and injustice that characterize Nigeria's judiciary. Injustice Omotosho will forever be remembered as the shameless corrupt judge that destroyed what was left of Nigeria's judicial integrity internationally over his flagrant disregard/violation of section 1 (3), section 36 (9) and section 36 (12) of the 1999 constitution against Mazi Nnamdi Kanu... Supreme Court judges are also complicit, if there are still good men in the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA), there should be massive calls within the NBA to disbar these corrupt judges.....

Can this thread be featured on Nairaland home page.... Nlfpmod

Victim mentality? Hmmmm why don't you support the movement to free Nnamdi Kanu? I do not know who you are talking about that scored 6% but for justice to reign, your Nigeria government must stop the unknown gun men (UGM) killings in South East and allow a peaceful referendum....

odejimioflagos:
When will the Igbo people stop this self-pity and victim mentality? What more injustice do they need? A man from their tribe contested and scored 6% and they are still crying.

Ojukwu did not fight to preserve Eastern Nigeria, he fought for Biafra a new country outside Nigeria. There is nothing like Eastern Nigeria as far as Biafra is concerned. I will remind you that the geographical area of Biafra, which included the South East, remains the ancestorial home of the igbos, even before the colonialists came to map out what they called Nigeria. Nnamdi Kanu has also not forced any one to join Biafra as he stressed on South East and some igbo speaking parts of the South South belonging to Biafra. Not all minorities were in support of Biafra but can you provide a source link to the previous statement you made?

DomPerignon:
Oh you didn't consent to Eastern Nigeria creation but you went to war to preserve it in the form of Biafra.

Who or when did ojukwu consult in the coastal provinces before he dragged them into his useless Biafra?
Who did Kanu consult when he drew his Biafra map with SS included?

Bunch of hypocrites

Nnamdi Kanu said it all regarding what Nigeria represents, this is why he is unjustly imprisoned. Nigeria has to be dissolve or totally restructured, many people in the country are yet to understand this but eventually they will.... Hopefully it won't be too late by then. ...

Nnamdi Kanu has always been consistent in predicting the contraption called Nigeria.....