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HardMirror:
Pls did I mention a school that is not in nigeria? Or is asf dead?
How hard is this really?
Even the so called child of the Dr. I mentioned showed up to claim the man I mentioned is his dad, why are they not presenting their other findings? Are they scared?
Lol
I know what I am doing and I know their motives.
Bunch of liars

bennyann:
Damogul and hopefullandlord should be involved in solving all these. This seem like a bad time to knocking out damogul. He started this thread and Seun took over without him.

Those who have the full info, who read all the pages of that thread are those you need to solving this especially hopefullandlord and more especially damogul who has some evidences with him.

Without them, I guess we're only fooling ourselves here.

Good night everyone

chrmn1:
problem is there would have been so many fellowship members doing great exploits and the last thing HardMirror would do is reveal his true identity

SirWere:
HardMirror created that thread in April....

Christians had ample time to question and analyze his story since then but didn't.

Now you're clamoring for Instant FP.

Na so e dey work

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I saw Seun suggesting a private investigation.

I think that's what should be done.

Damogul/naijadeyhia and a Futarian should be part of the "Panel".


So at least; we won't hear stories that touch.

HardMirror:
Paul, let's be honest with ourselves here. Do you folks really want the truth?

Just look at the claim below
Look at the accusations without any footing your folks put up. Are you really after the truth?

Seun:
I guess a public investigation isn't going to work. The Christians want to discredit HardMirror at all costs because they think souls are at stake. Anyone who says anything that stands in the way of their goal will be accused of being all sorts of things. So where do we go from here?

Seun:
I guess a public investigation isn't going to work. The Christians want to discredit HardMirror at all costs because they think souls are at stake.

HardMirror:
Show me where I said he was a fellowship executive. Shameless liar

HardMirror:
You see how they are misleading you? Who said he was a fellowship executive? Not me, so who?
This is how they keep adding little bits to the story. Paulgraundy also added his own bit by claiming I said we prayed together which I never did. Smh. You will soon understand why I wished not to continue on this thread. It was carefully designed to make the narrative favorable to them.

Seun:
How can we be sure that the people who said nobody died are right? Could someone have died without their knowledge? If not, why not?

Seun:
[b]I dropped the hammer on damogul for breaking rule 8. [/b]If it turns out that he is the same person as naijadeyhia then he has broken rule 19 too.


I admire your concern for the accuracy of the story. I certainly wish that people had the same concern for other stories they've been told.


The latest title is perfect.

mrmrmister:
I don't think it should be on front page yet
There will be lots of irrelevant comments
It's better this way, for now.

KingEbukasBlog:
So you sabi ask questions like this , but if it were a thread that derides Christian beliefs or make Christians look bad , no questions are asked , no close examinations of the claims , front page straight .

Move this to front page so that every Nairalander who attended the school would be involved so that we can ascertain the truth . His claims were seen by all , the investigation should be seen by all .

Seun:
HardMirror, why won't you reveal the name? Can you reveal it to me privately?


Did they say nobody died due to fasting, or that nobody died? The claim is that he died of ulcer which HardMirror thinks was caused by fasting.

Seun:
HardMirror, why won't you reveal the name? Can you reveal it to me privately?


Did they say nobody died due to fasting, or that nobody died? The claim is that he died of ulcer which HardMirror thinks was caused by fasting.

TheArchangel:
How does this back and forth arguments on the purported loopholes in his tales takes the centre stage on whether God exists or not?

It doesn't negate or diminish the reason for his conversion to atheism. It seems since Christians has been trying to find a way to discredit his submissions, and unequivocally this loophole is a gold mine.

I think it is petty and childish.
Young man, apologize for the mixed up and keep on with your entertaining stories.

Seun:
In my "court", you are innocent until proven guilty. I know you really want to discredit him for the sake of your religion.


Ok, so either HardMirror made it up despite it not being an important detail in his story, or the information he got from his fellowship members was not accurate, or he was not a member of the fellowship that HardMirror thought he was a member of. Am I getting this right?

Seun:
So the picture in my mind is that HardMirror heard that a highly spiritual brother died of ulcer, and deduced that his death was caused by fasting.

What part of the sentence above is being disputed? That someone died of ulcer, or that the ulcer must have been caused by fasting?

Seun:
I have just changed the title of the thread. So this thread is for discussing the specific claim that was disputed by damogul in this thread.

mrmrmister:
This kind of truth?
I don't think it's of any importance to his belief
Except his faith has started to shake

HardMirror:
This is the last reply I will give you on this thread. Any further question shld be directed to me on the original thread created to investigate me.
I got the report from members of my fellowship

mrmrmister:
No he's asking damogul to face what is most important to him
"His Belief"

HardMirror:
Never saw his dead body, all I know was his fervency, he uses our tent for his programs sometimes (I don't attend anyway), I know he is dead, and it was reported then that it was caused by ulcer probably aggravated from his lifestyle of fasting.

Seun:
Can you send me direct links to where this happened? I need just the relevant facts. I can't wade through that entire thread. It's far too long.

AKOBIJ: 4:17pm

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I'm a CACCFite, I av been active in the fellowship since 2006 and I graduated 2012, there is nothing of such, our fellowship presidents right from d said years av been contacted, and nothing of such.
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This story is a typical and FAT LIE from the pit of hell.

AKOBIJ:
This guy [Hardmirror] is never a pastor, if truly you are, answer dis qtns...
1. When and how did God call you into ministry? (I mean personal encounter with God)
2. Which pastor ordained you (name pls) and which ministry (denomination) were u ordinated? (name and location).
3. Which Bible School do u attend? (with proof, if there is any)
4. Who is ur mentor then or father in the Lord?
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With all dis ur claims, an investigation av started with all d names u mentioned, because personally I knew dem All and relates 2some of dem.
The likes of Rev. Ogundare, Pst Charles (Dream centre) and d Pastor/Dr. U described in mechanical engineering (Dats even my father).
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I pray God 4give you and devinely REACTIVATE ur life, in Jesus name, Amen.

LiberaDeus:
What are you even saying?

What did you do here In this thread? You are trying to prove that hardmirror is a fake. Please will that answer all the questions of existence and put to bed all the objections of Christianity.

Hardmirror is a human being, I don't care about his motives neither do I care about his honesty or lack of it. I didn't come to my belief system because of the testimony of a man. Face the fact that the guys testimony shook the faith of so many Christians and you are trying so hard to undo that damage. He lied, so what? Will you keep on beating the horse of this guys lies or will you face why you believe what you believe.

How many times do you see freethinkers trying to hammer down the credibility of one so called man of god. We don't do that, because we know Christianity like other world religion's was built on fables, mythology and fear which are all dishonest foundations. That is what we attack, the dishonest foundations, whether Benny hinn is fraudulent or not, or whether pastor Chris is fraudulent or not, it doesn't change the fact that the underlying theology is faulty.

So I will say it again, hardmirror is a fraud and so what, he is a cheat, a pathological liar, an impostor and so what. Does that make the holy bible to be free of immorality and contradictions.

A little advice for you, if you claim to be a Christian don't be like the medieval crusaders who threw away all decency because they were allegedly fighting for the Lord, please still maintain decency and human respect even though you feel you are justified since you are fighting atheists. If someone didn't refer to you or pass a snide remark your way, please don't do such to the person. Do unto others as you would have them do to you. I didn't insult you, its not too much to ask that you do the same.

Seun:
Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?