₦airaland Forum

Kukutente23:
Do you even understand what you posted?
[b]The ruling says the LG allocations should be paid directly to their accounts
Who is in charge of disbursing allocations? [/b]It's obvious you're just about talk even if nothing is there

If the FG didn't pay it sebi na your village head supposed to pay it?

Kukutente23:
Zone Bees sef
Which infrastructure is tinubu executing that has never been seen in Nigeria? Which robust healthcare?
I've did it severally. The reason you guys think Tinubu is doing wonderfully well is that you were deeply seething in hate and ignorance when others who did far better than him occupied office that you turned blind eye to their successes and kept claiming they failed only to carry the biggest failure so far on your heads and declare him a success.
Even Tinubu knows he's a failure. Why is he claiming the govs as part of his achievement claiming he's the one empowering them with statutory revenue? What twisted logic is that? Yet his zombies still clap for him for that rubbish claim

It is only a hateful soul that will say he didn't see the infrastructure putting in place by this government.

I know your greatest fear is that no sane electorate will listen to your lies because you want to sell your fake substandard product

Kukutente23:
I see you've been mouthing ignorantly all over the place like a typical zone bee
Where did the SC judgement say the governors should implement LG autonomy. There's nothing you guys will not truncate to defend your god
LG autonomy is strictly an FG affair. They're presently using same judgement to frustrate Osun state. Yet you're still blaming states for your political god's selfish indecisiveness
So what are govs to do with power generation, transmission and distribution? Zombies have been going around ignorantly looking to pin blame for power on govs. Power is a largely privatised sector. The govs are only expected to build an electricity market in their domains not to start building power plants as zombies erroneously and ignorantly assume!!

I wonder whether you read at all other than go on SM to make yourself happy

Your problem is you don't understand the basic concept of governance and some terms are too big for you to understand.

If state government have control of electricity in their domain, what does that entails?
It is left for the state to design how it will provide electricity for her people, either through direct financing or in PPP arrangement. The main beauty of the Act is taking power from exclusive list to Concurrent List.

Go and read what these terms mean so you won't be sounding like Mama put analyst

Kukutente23:
Wet know the reason BATISTS are happy about the bill is they think it gives them room to push security issues to the govs while shielding their fraud
Unfortunately the same bill says terrorism falls under federal jurisdiction so you should know that the state police is not being created to fight banditry and terrorism. It's being created to reduce the workload on the Federal police especially on routine and basic policing matters

Am here to burst your lies.

If the workload on the Federal police is reduced, won't that lead to decentralised system and enhance the drive against crime at the state level?

What you failed to understand is that the States house of assembly has power to legislate on the scope and functions of crime within a state and such powers will cover abduction, kidnapping, banditry, open grazing and related crimes

yemre:
Let's wait and see if he will react to this. And the direction of his reactions when he does eventually.

You will be surprised to hear him condemn the initiative and claim Nigerian Police should have been better managed without federal government interference and corruption

To Obi every of Nigeria problem start and end with corruption yet he himself is corruption personified

esnbrutality:
Please when discussing with your Fulani brethren, dont involve other tribes to join your failed crusade at being unified against Fulani.

You, a known Tinubu supporter and from his region. Its best you fight them alone because Southern unity is DEAD.

You must reap what you sow

Which one is Southern unity? The unity Aguiyi Ironsi degree or the Unity that pushes Azikwe to go and contest in Lagos

Kukutente23:
It is common knowledge to anyone that knows the workings of our legislature that any correspondence from the executive especially the president MUST be read at plenary where it will be debated and a decision made. If it is a bill, it either passes first reading or it is modified before passage. So your claim that a bill from the executive will be sent to the committee with oversight for such matter for "merging" is simply false. It must be read at plenary and deliberated upon. It's after it has passed first reading that the other bill brought by anyone on similar subject can now be merged with it by the committee on rules and business.
The PIB was an executive bill. It was the NASS that kept toying with its passage from the time of Yaradua till it was passed during Buhari. There was never a time the PIB was merged with any other bull from anyone. Am executive bill must be considered by the House involved. Simplicita

Comprehension is your problem. Senate has passed the bill you said is going to start from first reading

Kukutente23:
I know my points flew over your head

An executive bill is not just an "input" in legislative practice. It is a bill that takes priority even over a legislative bill. That point you failed to understand since yesterday. Am executive bill must be debated at plenary. No legislative house will take an executive bill and treat it as "input". That's simply the level of your ignorance showing.

I repeat again. The process I outlined is for when a bill has not been passed but am executive bill on same subject is presented. The bill will be stepped down and the executive bill considered from scratch. Do you understand the significance of this simple piece of information to the subject matter or you need further enlightenment?

And just for semantics sake, I never said the bill has been passed in a vacuum. I referred to a news report which did not negate my point. Go and cry to premium times if their reportage confuses you

"An executive bill is not just an "input" in legislative practice. It is a bill that takes priority even over a legislative bill. That point you failed to understand since yesterday. Am executive bill must be debated at plenary. No legislative house will take an executive bill and treat it as "input". "That's simply the level of your ignorance showing.

I ran the above and discover it was AI generated, my friend you suppose to go back to school or engage in serious reading so as to be vast many discipline, you can't be going to AI each time to you want a make a conversation on SM

Kukutente23:
I know my points flew over your head

An executive bill is not just an "input" in legislative practice. It is a bill that takes priority even over a legislative bill. That point you failed to understand since yesterday. Am executive bill must be debated at plenary. No legislative house will take an executive bill and treat it as "input". That's simply the level of your ignorance showing.

I repeat again. The process I outlined is for when a bill has not been passed but am executive bill on same subject is presented. The bill will be stepped down and the executive bill considered from scratch. Do you understand the significance of this simple piece of information to the subject matter or you need further enlightenment?

And just for semantics sake, I never said the bill has been passed in a vacuum. I referred to a news report which did not negate my point. Go and cry to premium times if their reportage confuses you

Stop being clever by half, my point since yesterday emphasized the importance of executive bill, this reflect in my post here.

Again you will have to provide instances where the bill being discussed is stepped down because an executive bill is brought in on the subject matter.

Let me retriate for educational purpose that such instances has never occured in the history of Nigeria Senate. The Senate will only harmonised the input of the executive into their own finding for their legislative work.

The only instance where such can occured is where the bill in question failed to get presidential accent in a legislative tenure, a typical example where this occurred was in passage of PIB which took several legislative tenure before it becomes an Act.

Now you can now roll along, I won't lecture you any longer on this because you will never learn

Kukutente23:
Lol. 20 years indeed. You have 20 years experience yet you couldn't decode that I was referring to second reading wren I said passed simply because the headline of the link I posted said "passed"?
Do you dispute any of the processes I highlighted for when an executive bill clashes with a legislative bill?
Even a cow that has spent 5 years in legislative business will know that once a bill has been passed, it cannot be re-presented again except as an amendment to the passed bill and that's after it has gone to the president for assent.
The guy that asked me when the senate passed the bill did not have a problem with the link. It is you who has been whining ever since trying to prove no-point as usual.
You know nothing. That's why you're full of T talk. The T na for trash

Trash.

You claimed the bill has been passed I proved to you that crossing second reading doesn't amount to bill being passed.

You claimed the bill will be presented to committee on business and ethics, I once again corrected you that there is no committee on the Senate that is tagged 'Business and Ethics'

Grade yourself with these blunders and you'll see you score zero in your argument.

Who is empty between me and you.

The point is that a bill that scale through second reading can still be subjected to many input, and when the input comes as an executive bill on the subject matter will still be accommodated.

Go back to your spare parts business and don't dabble into discussion beyond your capacity

Kalashnikov49:
Why are you fighting g your partner? Is it because it's not an Igbo affair?

Abeg getat.

I don't do tribal and political nonsense many of of you are known for. Am here to debunk lies and misinformation

ariesbull:
But they aren't owing and the Region has being doing fantastic before the AEDC find came just last year or two


The region that has less debts ans more secured is South East while in southern Nigeria ...South West is the most indebted and the most insecure region

Facts and stats are there ...not me that said it

Okay, because Dangote is indebted to many institutions now mean you with your kiosk is doing better than him.

Why is America the number 1 debtor in the world still regarded as a leading economy?
Miracle centres no be education o, Peter Obi should be blame for that mess

helinues:
You can't even win any arguments against me as we are not in the same level. Your likes should be listening if I am talking.

Where were you people during the End sars and Igboho interfering in Ondo herdsmen crisis? I know the role which I played that saved SW, those are just one of the references.

So listen whenever I am talking

Are you normal with the above assertion? When it comes to Nigerian politics I should be competing with best in your community. Show your records and credentials.
Nairaland have given many of you a voice so you think you have arrived

ariesbull:
It's not about Igbo presidency,it's about how we aren't looking at regions work capacity to deliver and having inept ..


The north couldn't deliver their regions in any facets from agriculture to security... And they grabbed the national leadership did it change anything ?

It's not about Igbo presidency its about ability to deliver !

You mean the people that mismanaged SEDC fund who rented an office for 150million?

helinues:
How come you are not interested in learning a thing?

On the christian persecution story, so as how you attacked me which eventually what you attacked still came to reality

The other day, I created a thread about Oyo state kidnapping been political, you came on the thread again to attack me which the likes of Gov Makinde, Fayose, Olubadan eventually confirmed

You are here again attacking my opinion. Who is Igboho to be threatening a whole tribe?

This Fulani man threatening only Igboho, how does it sound for your ears? Now imagine the Fulani guy adding the Yoruba's in general to his threat

Wondering why your likes are always insensitive about issues

All your attacking on my opinions, you have never won ordinary a quarter before yet still using bitter mindset to be attacking me

Am not attacking you, am only correcting you that it's not every issue you must have opinion.

3 topics I disagree with you are.
Christian genocide - anyone who claim there is no Christian killing going on is either he is been political or don't live or have relation in the North Central.
2. Trump support for the government. Many of you reject Trump support on account they are coming to take our resources and that's bs.
3. Creation of State police, There's should not even be a debate about that in a Federation but how many of you get it twisted is very appauling.

Now you claim Igboho is profiling the Fulani. But you didn't see where Fulani are displacing people, sacking communities and taking procession of their land. You didn't see the coordination of attack from Fulani on other Nigerians.
How insensitive can you be to trade human lives for political expediency?

Am not here to do competition on who wins an argument as there's no trophy for best winner, so keep your faint glory to yourself

helinues:
Na Igboho pass him boundary with his recklessness, so na him problem be that

You are not making sense. Trying to have opinion on all issues you know nothing about only portray you as busybody

LagosOrigin:
This is the same El rufai that helped to sell tinubu to the north in 2023 after buhari and his friends has rejected tinubu... But today, tinubu have betrayed him.

Inside life

The same ElRufai that the family always abuse SE people. They even say they would rape SE women

Sheuns:
All these you said the Agulu fraud couldn’t provide while he was governor, the one you support also failed to provide any of those for the state he governed for the same 8 year period.

Do you even know what’s funnier, he claims he has a blueprint which his successors follow till date. 1999-2026 is 27 years. Two decades and seven years of a blueprint and the blueprint doesn’t seem to have a provision for potable water for the people of Lagos.

Go round all the roads in Lagos from Surulere to Epe, to Alimosho and Amuwo Odofin, there’s one thing you’ll find in common, heaps of dirt by the median and on the road.

I wonder why the master plan couldn’t cater for proper waste disposal.

Or is the master plan just to enrich a few and create millions of area boys?

Lagos state may not have achieved water supply across board, but what they have achieved in 20 years you state will still be dreaming of it

Kukutente23:
Zombie feeling funky
Has the bill been passed by the senate or not? Yes it has.

So what happens when the executive proposes a bill on same subject? The passed bill and the executive bill are reverted back to the [b]committee on business and ethics [/b]to consolidate and re-present the bill from scratch for presentation for first reading. This is a bill that will still go to the states o

So you see why I asked where the sense is in your post now

The Nigeria Senate doesn't have a committee named 'business and ethics'
What we have are separate committees with different roles and functions.
1. Business and Rules Committee
2. Ethics and Privileges.

These committees perform different functions and no where their function overlap, so saying business and ethic committee exist shows you don't know what you are saying
There's no committee like that in the Senate.

Go and educate yourself and be grounded before coming online to type nonsense.

You will still be exposed if you continue using AI to argue your points

Kukutente23:
You're simply showing your ignorance. The steps I highlighted above holds only for bills that have passed 1st and/or second reading. A bill that passes third reading can only be harmonised and/or presented to the president for assent. It can't be stepped down for reconsideration.
Anyone with average intelligence will know I'm referring to second reading. Go and get properly informed before jumping around abeg.

You got you ideas from junks you read but couldn't comprehend, but am telling your based on experience that spans over 20 years.

Your arrogance and argument on SM has exposed your level of intelligence

givedemwotowoto:
Put a new born baby there and the baby that doesn’t know anything will get some things right.

Let’s stop all these nonsense and call a spade a spade.

This man has no business being President.

You can use that energy to spur your representatives who are sharing wheelbarrow to action

Kukutente23:
Zombie feeling funky
Has the bill been passed by the senate or not? Yes it has.

So what happens when the executive proposes a bill on same subject? The passed bill and the executive bill are reverted back to the committee on business and ethics to consolidate and re-present the bill from scratch for presentation for first reading. This is a bill that will still go to the states o

So you see why I asked where the sense is in your post now

I know it will get to this, you have never made any sense in all your argument.
Using headlines as basis for argument always exposes your inadequacies.

Now let me tell you that in legislative practice, the bill has not been passed.

Just because journalist used the wrong words doesn't make it right. The bill just passed the second reading doesn't connotes passage of the bill.

I know you will still mumble your parochial opinion, but that's is purely your cup of tea

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ryloy:
Five things the Tinubu Administration is getting right.
1. Fiscal reforms and revenue generation. The removal of the fuel subsidy has freed up significant resources, leading to a surge in federation revenues and more funds flowing to states and local governments for infrastructure, salaries, and development.

2. GDP growth and economic stabilization. Q1 2026 saw growth around 3.89%. The non-oil sector contributes the bulk, showing diversification momentum alongside oil recovery. Reforms like FX unification have supported trade surpluses and investor confidence.

3. Education access via NELFUND student loans & curbing ASUU strike actions. Over 1.5 million students gaining access to funding across hundreds of institutions. This marks a major expansion of access to higher education, reducing reliance on strikes and improving stability in universities

4. Strengthening foreign reserves and FX stability. External reserves have climbed to multi-year highs with reported $50 billion+ as of today , representing a 17 year peak. This reflects better management, inflows, and policy adjustments, contributing to greater exchange rate stability compared to earlier volatility. I ❤️this!

5. Infrastructure & resumption of abandoned projects. Ongoing road construction/rehabilitation (thousands of km), rail upgrades, new dams and aviation upgrades + expansions.

I will be dropping a post on 5 things they haven’t gotten right tomorrow. For now, what else have they gotten right ?

Nigeria Forward 🇳🇬💚


https://x.com/akintollgate/status/2069389521448284210

Local government autonomy, whatever grey areas that is required to accomplished that can be traced to governors unwillingness to implement it.

Power generation, transmission and distribution has also been placed in the hands of the state governors

At 7:20 he lied that he the one that created Ministry of economic planning, but record show that Tinubu was the first Nigeria governor who created that Ministry, whatever Obi did was just a copy.

Now you can see the result of that Ministry in economy of Lagos state,starting from increase in IGR to the expansion of economic activities in Lagos.

The question Nigerians should ask is where is the result of the economic planning in Anambra, Does is have the best health care, security, education compared to other states in Nigeria.

KennethOkonkwo:
That is where Nigerians should call out those greedy governors.I swear Tinubu is not our problems but governors.They are the one frustrating LG autonomy!
You will,months after state police bill us passed non of them will have implemented it

Just the way electricity has been placed under the control of states yet non of them is doing anything about it.

MrSly:
This man should resign and stop beating around the bush. Absence of state Police is not the reason for insecurity. Tinubu is just playing to the gallery. After school children were kidnapped in hundreds, civilian chased out of their land all tinibu could do was to send state Police bill to the Senate. See ineffectual president.

For you mind you've made the best contribution

Kukutente23:
Where is the sense in this post
Who asked you for all the nonsense you're writing

You said the bill has been passed by the Senate and there's no need for the executive to present their input.

You are always polluting threads with your limited knowledge on topics you know nothing about but when you are lectured youll start blabbing

Kukutente23:
Who made you a mod
Check well. This is not a zombie WhatsApp group

You have never made sense on this platform before and you always go about polluting the whole place with junks.

A bill can be sponsored by individual, institutions, legislators and the executive on any list in the constitution.

Your link only state what was proposed by the Senate that just passed the second reading and it's yet to be table for public hearing.

That doesn't stop the executive from making an input or submitting their on version of the creation of state police bill. You too as an individual can submit your bill on creation of state police. However, any bil presented by the executive always attract speedy attention and consideration.

All input will therefore be harmonised by the committee and in some cases, joint deliberation is considered to have a wider coverage and debate before passed by 2/3 majority and passed to the HoA and the President will eventually accent after these procedure have been fulfilled.

Stop throwing junk on very important discussion that affects the soul of our nation

Kukutente23:
What is the relevance of your question

This thread is all about creation of state police, stop distraction if you don't have any meaningful contributions

Kukutente23:
I thought you guys are getting daily updates in your WhatsApp group

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/886930-senate-passes-state-police-bill-refers-proposed-law-to-constitution-review-committee.html?tztc=1

Do you support creation of state police, Yes or No?

This is a good development coming from the President, the ball is now in the court of the Legislators for scrutiny.
Let's see the legislators that are going to stall or criticize the bill so that Nigerians can begin t identify the sponsors of terrorism and banditry who doesn't the terrorism to stop