vedaxcool:
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Obviously comprehension is not your strong suit. Good night.

Oo. A gud night is far from you and your kind my friend.

We are addressing an issue of pedophilia, abduction and forceful marriage and religious conversion of a 13 yr old girl severed from communication or contact with her parents for 7 months under the protection and awareness of one of the most important religious leaders in the country and you bring Tompolo as comparison to such. Obviously you support and acknowledge this strategy of "thieving" wives, on a second thought, maybe that was how you got your own wife. In any case, you seem recalcitrant to the temerity of the situation.

But why not, even the emir himself married a girl old enough to be his grand daughter recently, and Atiku Abubakar also married a 14 yr old teenager sometime ago.

Let me ask, is marriage to an underaged girl attached to a promise in your beliefs?

Is the mythical 70virgins reward in Al-Janna the reason for this?
You guys can no longer wait till you get to heaven to get your virgins, now you claim them on earth. Is that the new teaching?

Since most of the Islamic leaders use virgin - marriage to seal their legacy.

Am trying to enter into your psychology and understand how you could relate the matter at hand with Tompolo.
Tompolo is just like the Haliburton case, Diezani, Bankole, Patricia Eteh, Doyin Okukpe, arms deal saga, etc... Regular corruption practices. But this...

I know your mission, to derail this thread and distract the well meaning activists that have taken it upon themselves and their mb to promote the # free Ese campaign. But u have failed because whether u like it or not, ESE WILL BE FREED AND YOU AND YOUR KINDS WILL BE STOPPED.

vedaxcool:


It is clear you people engage in misinformation. Tompolo issue is clearly an indication of hypocrisy along tribal lines. if someone from your tribe robs Nigeria of money that would be used in making better Healthcare educate children, fight poverty etc and you support him because his your tribe then it is sad and failure of upbringing. That remains the point I am making. The same people who rightly demand the arrest of yinusa should be decent enough to demand the arrest of tompolo instead of tribalism and bigotry.

Tompolo my tribes man? U must be a kryptonian.

Ooo I get, Tompolo abducted your daughter of 13,took her to His religious leader {if a Christian, that would be CAN president's) house where she was quickly converted and baptised. Then a local church wedded Tompolo and ur daughter... Is Dat what happened between you and Tompolo?

Do you know the rudiments couples are subjected to before marriage in church?
Why do you think most couples rather opt for court and traditional marriage, because they don't meet the requirements for a white wedding.

Any ways, am not a corruption activist, am a human rights activist.
Therefore Tompolo 's case isn't a case study here.

chuose:
Nairalanders no make person laugh.

They only arrest southerners .

You see say all southerners get arrested..
Northerners get their offices arrested instead.

So if we are to expect anything, his office will get arrested.

Borno State House of Assembly gets arrested instead of the members


http://dailypost.ng/2016/01/26/efcc-seals-borno-house-of-assembly-over-allegations-of-corruption/

SAMBO Too his office was arrested instead of him.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/02/dasukigate-efcc-raids-ex-vp-sambos-office/

Hahaha. Then the Constitution would have to make provisions for prosecution and possible jail terms for public offices

vedaxcool:
Nice, yet some mentally disturbed people who do far worse crimes to women were quick to condemn the Emir, those individuals in their beerfraud land you would see underage girls engaged in prostitution, some of them even spoil people pikin up and down and then come to nairaland and form holy holy we no dey do bad thing. See how the IGP used local institution to handle a matter that could have easily become problematic? Now the next stage is unraveling the entire circumstance and sanctioning the people involed.

Most of the fools shouting arrest the Yinusa guy, encourage Tompolo to hide away from the law, this hypocritical elements are curse to this country, they choose how and when the law should be applied

This is besides the point. Corruption in Nigeria Is a whole different issue, but if the girl is actually returned to her family, yunusa is prosecuted and that Bayelsa police officer retired, then there is hope after all. But I hope they actually release her to her family. If that happens, then a major record would have been created and a heavy blow dealt to forceful marriages and religious conversions through abduction and kidnap.
And all these achieved by the power of the media.
If you have a case with Tompolo, one strong enough to command the attention of all sensible Nigerians, one that looks like abduction of a teenage girl and turning her to a Sex slave under the umbrella of a prominent religious leader (since Nigerians are very religious) for seven months, please bring it forward so we fight together for justice, but if not ; pls support the # free Ese campaign for posterity sake.

vedaxcool:
Nice, yet some mentally disturbed people who do far worse crimes to women were quick to condemn the Emir, those individuals in their beerfraud land you would see underage girls engaged in prostitution, some of them even spoil people pikin up and down and then come to nairaland and form holy holy we no dey do bad thing. See how the IGP used local institution to handle a matter that could have easily become problematic? Now the next stage is unraveling the entire circumstance and sanctioning the people involed.

Most of the fools shouting arrest the Yinusa guy, encourage Tompolo to hide away from the law, this hypocritical elements are curse to this country, they choose how and when the law should be applied

This is besides the point. Corruption in Nigeria Is a whole different issue, but if the girl is actually returned to her family, yunusa is prosecuted and that Bayelsa police officer retired, then there is hope after all. But I hope they actually release her to her family. If that happens, then a major record would have been created and a heavy blow dealt to forceful marriages and religious conversions through abduction and kidnap.
And all these achieved by the power of the media.
If you have a case with Tompolo, one strong enough to command the attention of all sensible Nigerians, one that looks like abduction of a teenage girl and turning her to a Sex slave under the umbrella of a prominent religious leader (since Nigerians are very religious) for seven months, please bring it forward so we fight together for justice, but if not ; pls support the # free Ese campaign for posterity sake.

IamRespected:
Religion is Nigeria problems

Couldn't have agreed more. This is not Christianity, it is ignorance at its advanced stages.

Strategic welcome. Now we watch to see the wisdom or manipulation he brings from mecca. # free Ese

ApenaEde:
This thread is dominated by Mumu mumu iPod & non IPod fanatics blinded by hatred & sentiment.
Did d Emir av 2 know every body living in Kano state ? Did he registers those dat enters or leave nano state, His d emir d police 2 investigatie a case of "abduction" of eloped couple?
Can even d police forcefully displace a sane , non criminal adult 2 Bayelsa against her will? Will u b blaming d beyelsa kings( if there is 1) for every case of elopement or "abduction" if it were 2 b dat an Hausa lady elope wt a lover 2 Bayelsa.
I know Y u ar angry, d girl converted 2 Islam
Its called elopement not abduction.

U are an apology to sanity, civilization and all that makes humans superior to animals.

May be we have been dealing with two different species of beings in Nigeria : human beings and a yet to be identified specie of humanoids.

twoondei:
Everything on social media has been reduced to political rivalry.
Someone just finds a way to bring down everyone in the other party.
The emir has done his part.
The girl will be freed

Just like the chibok girls were freed baa. I doubt. Drastic measures must be taken.
I personally am not a friend of bureaucracy and protocols since it seems perpetrators of Nefarious acts have mastered the art of twisting such processes.
I want to state this categorically, as it is currently, it will take a miracle to return the girl to her parents, and restore her sanity.
My advocacy is simply to bring to light a growing trend that needs to be curbed.

These evil master minds need to be discouraged from continuing to use such tactics to preach their doctrine.

truly:

How come you have not been brainwashed?

I can give you my address so u contract any one of your choice to come and try, but I assure you, mental psychosis will remain his generational identity.
Muslims query their Imams more than Christians
Nigerian Christians come with all sorts of miracles - resurrecting the dead,

You hate the dead been resurrected?, wait till you lose a loved one

credit into people's phones (so MTN/Glo will suffer the loss of free credit?) etc

This guy works in a telecommunications company or must have some shares there, otherwise...

Pastors burn members of the congregation, walk over them, ask them to eat grass
And you dare speak of brainwashing!

U and I know these are excesses from religious zealots quite frankly discouraged by the Bible and church leaders. But u can't find this type of thing mentioned among 'important' church leaders.


As for the miracles, am sure you wouldn't mind one yourself if you could assess it. Giving free recharge cards, healings.... Wait till you see real miracles. These Are gifts to us, to maintain the smile, the hope, the reason to live. What do you do when your only loved one is dying of cancer, Hiv, hepatitis, cancer, etc. Then you will understand why it is called a miracle.

Did you check if Punch was able to reach the Emir

Punch is not powered by the law to reach the emir, till 2050, the only time punch will ever reach the emir is upon his invitation strictly for a media chat.
Those empowered by the law, the emir used the young residents of the palace area to prevent them. But we got testimony from atleast two residents that the girl was taken to the emir 's palace. So the emir is fully in knowledge of the development.


The Knights Templars (affiliated to freemasonry) were part of Christian Crusaders who fought Muslims
Go get some education or stop casting deceitful aspersions


i Am not talking about the history, am talking about the methods and strategy.
Yes they started from the church, but were later ostracized and fought almost to extinction by the church.
They came about during the time of the crusades. The Knights Templars particularly ended the terror rained on Jerusalem by Aladin and the Islamic Raiders.

The church developed and empowered them and they succeeded, but the power of the Templars grew and became uncontrollable, then they began to mix their faith with basphremet worship, and using occultism and mediums, they became dark and birthed other sects. This is when the church rejected their doctrine of one world govt and new world order,and fought them politically, religiously and economically till they went into hiding. Maybe the concept of Islamizing the world, one location at a time came from here.


And KKK, IRA, NLFT are christian terror organisations

Are you seriously saying ISIS, AL quaeda, etc are not world terrorist organizations?

truly:

How come you have not been brainwashed?

I can give you my address so u contract any one of your choice to come and try, but I assure you, mental psychosis will remain his generational identity.
Muslims query their Imams more than Christians
Nigerian Christians come with all sorts of miracles - resurrecting the dead,

You hate the dead been resurrected?, wait till you lose a loved one

credit into people's phones (so MTN/Glo will suffer the loss of free credit?) etc

This guy works in a telecommunications company or must have some shares there, otherwise...

Pastors burn members of the congregation, walk over them, ask them to eat grass
And you dare speak of brainwashing!

U and I know these are excesses from religious zealots quite frankly discouraged by the Bible and church leaders. But u can't find this type of thing mentioned among 'important' church leaders.


As for the miracles, am sure you wouldn't mind one yourself if you could assess it. Giving free recharge cards, healings.... Wait till you see real miracles. These Are gifts to us, to maintain the smile, the hope, the reason to live. What do you do when your only loved one is dying of cancer, Hiv, hepatitis, cancer, etc. Then you will understand why it is called a miracle.

Did you check if Punch was able to reach the Emir

Punch is not powered by the law to reach the emir, till 2050, the only time punch will ever reach the emir is upon his invitation strictly for a media chat.
Those empowered by the law, the emir used the young residents of the palace area to prevent them. But we got testimony from atleast two residents that the girl was taken to the emir 's palace. So the emir is fully in knowledge of the development.


The Knights Templars (affiliated to freemasonry) were part of Christian Crusaders who fought Muslims
Go get some education or stop casting deceitful aspersions


i Am not talking about the history, am talking about the methods and strategy.
Yes they started from the church, but were later ostracized and fought almost to extinction by the church.
They came about during the time of the crusades. The Knights Templars particularly ended the terror rained on Jerusalem by Aladin and the Islamic Raiders.

The church developed and empowered them and they succeeded, but the power of the Templars grew and became uncontrollable, then they began to mix their faith with basphremet worship, and using occultism and mediums, they became dark and birthed other sects. This is when the church rejected their doctrine of one world govt and new world order,and fought them politically, religiously and economically till they went into hiding. Maybe the concept of Islamizing the world, one location at a time came from here.


And KKK, IRA, NLFT are christian terror organisations

Are you seriously saying ISIS, AL quaeda, etc are not world terrorist organizations?

truly:

How come you have not been brainwashed?

I can give you my address so u contract any one of your choice to come and try, but I assure you, mental psychosis will remain his generational identity.
Muslims query their Imams more than Christians
Nigerian Christians come with all sorts of miracles - resurrecting the dead,

You hate the dead been resurrected?, wait till you lose a loved one

credit into people's phones (so MTN/Glo will suffer the loss of free credit?) etc

This guy works in a telecommunications company or must have some shares there, otherwise...

Pastors burn members of the congregation, walk over them, ask them to eat grass
And you dare speak of brainwashing!

U and I know these are excesses from religious zealots quite frankly discouraged by the Bible and church leaders. But u can't find this type of thing mentioned among 'important' church leaders.


As for the miracles, am sure you wouldn't mind one yourself if you could assess it. Giving free recharge cards, healings.... Wait till you see real miracles. These Are gifts to us, to maintain the smile, the hope, the reason to live. What do you do when your only loved one is dying of cancer, Hiv, hepatitis, cancer, etc. Then you will understand why it is called a miracle.

Did you check if Punch was able to reach the Emir

Punch is not powered by the law to reach the emir, till 2050, the only time punch will ever reach the emir is upon his invitation strictly for a media chat.
Those empowered by the law, the emir used the young residents of the palace area to prevent them. But we got testimony from atleast two residents that the girl was taken to the emir 's palace. So the emir is fully in knowledge of the development.


The Knights Templars (affiliated to freemasonry) were part of Christian Crusaders who fought Muslims
Go get some education or stop casting deceitful aspersions


i Am not talking about the history, am talking about the methods and strategy.
Yes they started from the church, but were later ostracized and fought almost to extinction by the church.
They came about during the time of the crusades. The Knights Templars particularly ended the terror rained on Jerusalem by Aladin and the Islamic Raiders.

The church developed and empowered them and they succeeded, but the power of the Templars grew and became uncontrollable, then they began to mix their faith with basphremet worship, and using occultism and mediums, they became dark and birthed other sects. This is when the church rejected their doctrine of one world govt and new world order,and fought them politically, religiously and economically till they went into hiding. Maybe the concept of Islamizing the world, one location at a time came from here.


And KKK, IRA, NLFT are christian terror organisations

Are you seriously saying ISIS, AL quaeda, etc are not world terrorist organizations?

truly:


Did Punch follow their own standard of confirming from the other side eg asking Sanusi?

Wait till your daughter is taken away and you can't get her back because of a religious propaganda and watch me tell you that you need to follow due process of investigation. Besides what other 'due process' are you concocting. SCID, police commissioners, local council elders, sss, the sharia council, the local tribal community leaders in kano, etc. And you can still mention due process. Not to mention that last year, that the Islamic leader at bida kidnapped and forcefully married d daughter of a Redeemed pastor, this to me is becoming a trend and part of the strategies to islamize the country. What if I wait until you have a 14 year old daughter, take her to the emir of kano and Marry her according to sharia laws. You wouldn't mind would you.

To think that the emir of kano is supposed to be educated as the former CBN governor of this nation leaves me speechless.
The yellow guy enticed the teenager with little gifts, her parents couldn't meet all of her wants and needs, the mother is a food vendor. The girl must have been wooed by yellow till she got fond of him.
He might even have been calling her "my wife" and dashing her extra change. She agreed to go with him.. Of course she didn't know what she was doing. Many teenagers enter their mid-age crisis sooner now. She definitely wanted more than what life could afford her.
On getting to kano, they quickly start forcing her into Islam.
When the parents began to cause a stir, they rushed her to the emir 's palace and "brain wash /hypnotize" and charm her.

All with the protection of a supposed educated man who bagged his master's overseas.

The parents were careless with the girl from the beginning by engaging her in early child labour.,this is just to serve as a deterrent to others.
1st : child labour and using children to hawk, trade or support family business should be discouraged.
2. Why do we always have to relate the conc Islamic leaders with charms, black magic, juju and other diabolic practices; also, is Forceful involvement and compulsory engagement the only tool available to spread the Islamic agenda?

First they tried to force sharia law on all northern states in Nigeria, then taking it to another level, decides to use bombs, maimings, abduction, And forced marriage of under aged children. Let's not forget that up till now, we are yet to find the chibok girls.

Truth be told: Islam is not practiced by its adherents and important leaders as a religion; no. They practice Islam as a cult. Using brain washing techniques, rituals and charms (the mother was told if she speaks to her daughter, either of them will die). That's not a religion,
a religion has a primary ingredient to be called a religion, freedom of choice.
But the principles of Islam are similar to major occultic movements of the world. (Knights Templars, the kabala, Free Masons, skull and bones order, and the grandest of all, Illuminati, Islam is promoting a one world government just like these cults and employing same vices. Funny though, even in these cults, membership is by Choice. The only place membership is by force is among Terrorist Organizations (Isil, Boko Haram, AL Quaeda, etc)
funny coincidence, all these terrorist organizations are Islamic fingers and tentacles. So is it. Sufficient to say. True Islam is directly proportional to terrorism...

I just got the message on my inbox now. Good thing I came online first to verify.
Tx o.p

But how do they get details of a close Facebook friend?

ISS HIGH TIME GUYS STOP STRESSING THEIR MIND OVER GIRLS...

I'd rather focus on my career than waste my brain strategizing how to woo a lady.

With enough money...
I don't need all these rules.

Although I must agree with them.

Sadly but funny enough, its the only way for guy's to save their heart from being torn apart.
Especially for those with good intension.

If u meet a guy forming Mr Nice Guy...
Then am sure who go teach am lesson dey road.

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[quote author=fearlesschicken post=37050067]

The analogy of loving my parents and not believing in their advise is quite silly sorry to say. Yes I love my folks but I don't believe everything they tell me. For christs sake am human and not a robot that would take everything they tell me hook line and sinker.

How are you sure that the bible is the true word of God? If the bible is the true word of God then why the inaccuracies and errors? Isnt God perfect like we believe? [/quote

Give me some of the inaccuracies uve noticed in the Bible. Let's start off from there.

roob:
see d commossion religion is causing everywhere...U PEOPLE SHOULD JUST SHUT UP!!! StOP ALL THESE THEORITICAL BALDADASH... jUST LOVE UR NEIGHBOUR AS U LOVE UR SELF... SIMPLE!

Isn't dat a religion 2?
Can u LOVE ur neighbour without d fear of God??
Where did u get d idea "love ur neighbour as urself" from?

Let me ask u an honest question: will u sleep wit ur sista if conji catch u?
Why won't u?
Some religions do dat, odas don't...
Do u hav a sense of morality...
If yes.... U re a capital religionist...
If no... Then I understand y u re against religion... It HAUNTS u!

To d pure, all thins re pure; but 2 d Fearful, abominable and defiled is nothing pure.

Surely u wish thr were no RAPTURE... I don't care abt ur belief, and I won't try 2 convince u otherwise, but since u hav nothing 2 worry abt... Whether d rapture exists or notan we'll find out..
But its absurd 4 u 2 paint d scriptures d way u jst did, soo myopic and a bit aggresiveLy unpersuasive; 2 me.
" wicked will be taken"
Where did u get dat from??
If d righteous will remain,... Wat wil they be doin in it wen d earth is being destroyed?
Hw abt d 3rd world war, wat role is ISIS and Israel playin in d future turn of events...
Why do u think terrorist organizations re only killing Christians... ?? ISIS, THE Taliban, Boko Haram... And d one yet 2 come.?
Re u up to date with recent happenings in ISRAEL, US, Japan, China etc... Re u aware of d '1 world Tower' on ground Zero, and d islamic minurette??
Wen last did u watch aljazeera, CNN, etc... D Bible hav u read Daniel chapter 2 and tried 2 decipher it?. I won't tell u if I belive in Rapture or Not... My opinion, much like urs, doesn't affect its reality.
Jst try 2 balance ur studies of scriptures with histories, and also, current affairs, am sure if u do this, ur spectrum will be improved.
Cheer!!

dodoniyi:
(B) If you were born on a TUESDAY:

• You are very active, lively and have a vivacious demeanor. You have warrior-like qualities.
• You are brave and serious in your work, and will always have people to help you out.
• You worry a lot and the more you worry, the more problems you attract in your life. You should learn to let go and relax; and lead a hassle free life. Simplify your living and life will become more endearing.
• You are overtly materialistic. Though your taste in material possessions is quite good, but sometimes you overindulge and end up buying more things than you need—be it clothes or anything else. You should learn to save money.
• Though you ask other’s opinions a lot, you eventually do what you think is right. So instead of asking around too much, spend time thinking on your own and weighing the pros and cons on your own accord because in the end, you will take your own decision.
• You are very straight-forward, and often do not think before you speak. This results in many people ending up in misunderstanding you.
• You are hardworking but also very sensitive which makes you somewhat difficult to deal with.

SOURCE: http://www.dayofbirth.net/leftlinkmain.php?day=tue#.VUidWFVViko

Damn... True!!
Except 4 some factors

Bekwarra:
My friend who's a worker in a new generation pentecostal church (I won't mention names) invited me to his church. Although I don't normally go to church VERY EARLY, he succeeded in persuading me to go early with him because as a worker, he should be in church very early and he knew fully well that if we didn't go together, I wouldn't go; so he succeeded in dragging me along.

When we got to church, they started their normal Sunday School like chit-chat and later praises, worship songs and the service started proper. Born into an Apostolic-inclined orthodox and later crossed over to RCCG, I wasn't at home with the mode and method of their service. I was getting bored and feeling out of place while silently praying for the service to end. Then it came to things like "run to five people and tell them greater things are coming your way this week, you must run o", "grab the person beside you and shake him happy sunday". I was getting tired and shaking my head in despair.

The worms in my stomach were not helping matters, they launched a massive #BringBackOurFood protest because I couldn't take breakfast before leaving for church. The only thing that kept on pushing me on was the hope that the pastor would soon say "run to 5 people and hug them happy sunday". I would gladly and patiently look for 5 beautiful sisters with their killing mini/pencil skirts and tight-fitting shirts to hug but unfortunately, that command never came. All those times, I was feeling frustrated already and whenever my eyes meet those of my friend where he was standing with the engines and mixers, he gives me that "padi no vex we go soon finish" smile.

Just as I was resigning to fate and hoping that the service would soon end and I would bolt home the worst of it happened. The pastor had been preaching for close to 45mins harping on the need to give and sow as good Christians. He gave several examples in the bible of people who gave and later reaped God's blessings. He urged us to give and test God. After that, it was time to give offering. The offering was going to be in two parts; normal Sunday offering and the commitment towards the church building because their auditorium is under construction. We gave offering and afterwards the pastor came back on the pulpit and started complaining why people refused to give generously despite taking us on a journey through the word of God about the essence of giving in a Christian life. He preached for another 10mins. I wasn't even listening to him again because I was gradually dozing off.

What actually jolted me back into reality were these words "now it's time for operation search your neighbour". I sat up immediately to listen well and that was when I heard the pastor saying

"this is time for operation search your neighbour, search your neighbour's bag, wallet, purse or pockets as need be and bring out the contents, if there is no money there return the bag but if there is money bring it out, we must learn to give to God. He gave us the money and we must return it to him".

After all those words, people took the bag of the person sitting beside them while the pockets or wallets of brothers were being searched.

The brother beside me was taking his hands towards my pockets about to begin his own search when I said with venom in my eyes and in a Russian mafian voice

"What do you think you want to do??"

He replied me

"You heard what the pastor said brother".

I told him not to even contemplate trying it. He was then trying to pacify me and cajole me telling me there is no harm in giving towards God's work. I told him I'm not against giving but I'm against collecting by force. This is no more giving, this is collecting. He smiled at my words and said

"My brother it's the same thing, God's blessing awaits the two"

and he made for my pockets again, I felt that my phonetics were not having any effect and I replied with

"Bros abeg no try that thing o, I swear I go change am for you".

He was shocked.

One usher noticed us and came to us and he was trying to calm me down because my voiced had changed as my face too.

My friend remained where he was to avoid being seen as the person that brought Orubebe to church. I don dey para for them like mad and the people sitting around us were trying to pacify me. I said "Okay, no problem," carried my bible and.............................with one last Dracula look I told the usher

"Please don't even try to follow me".

He remained rooted to the spot and I made my way out of the church and straight home.

Laughs like an Egyptian mummy