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obaaderemi:
Ariel Food is owned by an Indian settler in Kenya.

There is nothing like Indian settler in Kenya
A settler is someone who owns huge chunks of agricultural land
Indians don't farm in Kenya they are into manufacturing and retail business and they are pure Kenyans they born in Kenya they have lived in Kenya for centuries

obaaderemi:
Point out one leader with noble ideas or good intentions with balls to match ever produced in Africa. Mind you you can have good intentions but I can jeopardize everything if you let me. That's what has been going on in Africa.

Look at Cuba and Castro for example. He threw out the Americans and promoted his country the best he could. We all remember the Bay of Pigs event that embarrassed America when they tried to assassinate Castro. Man, it was funny. He wasn't completely successful but his people were proud of his achievements. We make a lot of excuses in Africa.

The likes of lumumba, Sankara
Castro has mixed legacy
And of course yes Africans also need to wake up and face up the challenges and stop whining to much

obaaderemi:
If you believe the bolded, you will believe anything.

Not anything
I mean it is 50 years after independence for most African countries
Do you mean all those years Africa has not produced good leaders with noble ideas to make Africa developed

samorobo:
Why are you quoting me nakuru...
Anyway he never indicated that..he mentioned dollar earlier and don't do thesame in the latter.. it's his fault.

I didn't quote you she male

Shma:
furnished you mean?
Yeah almost 90% completed.
Numbers ;?D .. they can invade every country but still remain congested in there own

Yes
Okay good deal development by avic

Shma:
show me the progress.

I doubt there is any
Tatu is a real estate project and an industrial park

samorobo:
Ah*male just take it easy with this lies...Avic tower cost $40bn...do you even know the value of money...

40 billion Kenya shillings not dollars stick to posting those renders of yours

Shma:
Chinese are the best engineers.
They have money, and skills
$ 3b Is not that less , remember Avic tower in kenya only coasted 40b??

It is less for a city
Yeah plus the Chinese also have the numbers
Are the Avic towers dine

vaxx:
Egypt is an extended Saudi Arabia. just last three years , over 'two Egyptian island were given to Saudi Arabia. mind you , Saudi Arabia too is building the world tallest building. it will be more taller than the presence one in Dubai

Ego projects or showcase

Shma:
am telling you.
Is a $3 billion loan facility from China.

Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2020/01/chinese-banks-preconditions-impede-first-tranche-loan-egypt.html#ixzz6KnnbtXU7

China funding everything and everywhere this days
$ 3 billion is a small amount for that enormous city they must have other sources of funding

Shma:
Egyptians are also building its own city.
It will be holding the tallest tower in Africa.

The Egyptian city is enormous
I wonder how they are funding it

TayserMahri:
AU is just an extension of the collective incompetencies of our leaders.

a large portion of AU budget it is funded by the European union even the AU headquarters was constructed by the Chinese who ended up spying on the AU meetings

theenchanter:
pls, don't repeat the bolded again.... Its pure fallacy.

Okay but South Korea was a poor country look at it now

Lionessza6:
True. But in my opinion, these leaders that are forced down our throats aren't our biggest problem. The biggest problem is lack of education, by education I'm not talking western education, I'm talking about the basics. Many Africans still dont know what is keeping Africa in this state ( dont know who their real enemy is). You cant fight and defeat what you dont know nor understand.

Yes because many Africans are smart enough and know how to run a vibrant economy but I don't know what is happening
Some countries like South Korea were poorer than many African countries but now they GDP dwarfs the African continent GDP I don't know what is happening in Africa for sure it seems like everyone is taking turns to reap Africa it was the whites and now the Chinese are taking over

Lionessza6:
Do you really believe that all the African leaders post * independence * are that stupid ,that none of them or their advisors had ever thought of or attempted to build such industries ? . I'm asking this genuinely. And if these African leaders actually built these industries ,who do you think will lose out the most ?. And do you think that they would just take that lying down? . Would that African leader or leaders have enough support & or capability to fight back and win if the fight is brought to their doorstep ?

Africa is undeveloped because some people somewhere want it to remain that way
That is why they supported idiot leaders like Mobutu sesseko and Jean bedel bokassa

mtisTheQubit:
hi Scar..howz the biz..lockdown ime-extendiwa for another month...najua uko poa ..sio

Scar nay mufasa yea
Nachoma watu hapa Mbaya

AskiaHarem:
Africans need to carve there own path. One size does not fit all.

Yes it does South Korea, Japan, Singapore, China have shown us it fits all
Unless we live in a different world could Africans curve they own path

African countries need to copy Bangladesh and maybe Vietnam for us to move forward

gallivant:
I feel a strong anti Chinese sentiment will keep on increasing in Africa and the globe as they assert themselves as a global power. However what they did to Africans and what Trump is doing during this crisis should be a wake up call to everyone. Don't trust anybody.

It is true
I'm always suspicious of the Chinese

mtisTheQubit:

juu scar hajapata kamchiduse ...

vaxx:
Well I think trump is crazy . but in anyway, I prefer the white because of their strong rule of law. they also have good constitution as well. . our liberty to choice of religion, sex and many more are somehow as a result of good enforcement of western law. So at list, if you want to do business , it is better you do it with country that has working law. No one likes to invest in something (opening a business, building a factory etc) that can be taken away easily by a random person or country who happens to have the power to do so.

And that is how China works it is a surveillance state nothing else

mtisTheQubit:
its the nature of humans..if africans had the same chance thy'd being doing the same crap..best way for africa is educate our selves ...we need to change with time...we should not allow the Chinese either colonize us...
have researched how kingdoms raise an fall..from Babilon to roman an i cant tell you its the time of the Chinese...everything for now its working on their favour...but like any kingdom they always fall down at one time

Yes it is the nature of humans
But the Chinese my guts are against them

vaxx:
Well you may say so. 2.2 trillion America stimulus package is only for Americans alone. No poor country is tasting from a dime. but I will still have to choose the old enemy ( the white guys)reason is rule of law works.

I prefer the white guys to Chinese
Iam team Trump
By the way I hate the Chinese

mtisTheQubit:
for the time being am mufasa an you can take scar..seriously man its not big deal..scar had his shortcoming but he was ok. we cant have two Mufasa on thread

Iam the original mufasa
Tylann in Swahili is mufasa
Mtisthequbit in Swahili is scar or mfasa not mufasa

mtisTheQubit:
hi ednite..how is ethi an em gals

got couple of questions..
1. are the Chinese more evil than the white folks
2.have seen more Chinese development here than the entire existence of white man in africa..an we talking about decades..
3.there is propaganda running around about chinese being evil to Africa an stuff. guess who running the show..white folks..they have started being jealous of how Chinese are positioning into africa continent..

look i will tell you ths, Chinese are not here to babysit us...we know that an they know that..we need them an they need us...its us to make the final decision..for decades our resources have been raped but no one was talking...be careful with the white guy ...

The white guys and the Chinese are the same they just want to rip off Africans

mtisTheQubit:
@tyllan...am the new improved mfasa...a lassie just called me that..

B.itch I will slap you
No you are not mfasa you are scar

gallivant:
She is having a mental breakdown. Just ignore her.

Now she-he is begging me to quote him

An idiot she-male has just quoted me twice

Shma:
The road is one of the uglies in Nairobi, your so called engineers left it in a horrendous state that one can imagine ..
European masters even apologised for that .

A simple 17km road a company from the so called giant of Africa cannot build

Acadavah:
There is no such thing inferiority complex, most of you Kenyans are thieves, fraudsters,evils, liers and we despise that. How can you claim every good thing from Tanzania as yours.

What are you talking about
We have never claimed anything from Tanzania as kenyan boy

Mzal3ndo:
Dar es salaam already has 6 million people and there is over a thousands ways you can get into Dar es salaam undetected, and we have already taken measures you can not go anywhere in Dar es salaam without a face mask, some shops are closing down in busy Kariakoo and no gathering at bars, clubs or any social function with more than 10 people. The government has looked at all this but at the end they take the option that best suits the people due to the culture of the people.

You can close all those undetected routes
Even Nairobi has undetected routes even them they have been closed to stop the process
Even in Nairobi it is a crime to go out without a mask

Mzal3ndo:
Please all the cases are announced, plus, the president was giving out a message of hope and he happened to be inside a church. And for the situation in Tanzania, we the people know our situation. Tanzania is centered around Dar es salaam, putting Dar es salaam on lock down is literally freezing the whole nation, meaning no medicine, no oil, no equipment, that is something that we can not take. That is why we know how serious the virus is and we chose to take the other unpopular route, fine people will die but at the end but last time i checked people in Tanzania still die from Malaria, TB, Aids and so more.

You can put partial lockdown like kenya
Allow only goods to move in and outside dar not people if you stop people movement the virus will not move