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U said they were inspired by the spirit of God to write...even if they were inspired, sometimes they wrote what they thought....Sometimes i wonder if you guys intentionally ignore certain verses in the bible like 1 cor 7v25 v12, galatians 5:2 ...lookup these verses and you will see clearly that paul is giving his opinion which might be wrong or right cause he noted it wasnt of God's....infact in 2cor 11:17 NRSV, paul says" What I am saying in regard to this boastful confidence, I am saying not with the Lord’s authority, but as a fool".....so y do you guys still believe every word including the letters sent by mr A to B in the bible to be word of God? Y? |
You also made a statement about waraqa teaching the prophet the quran..lets analyse this with a simple logic Muhummad’s (pbuh) contacts with the jewish and christian scholars were very limited. The most prominent christian known to him was an old blind man called waraqa ibn-naufal who was a relative of the prophet’s first wife khadijah (r.a.). Although of arab descent, he was a convert to christianity and was very well versed with the new testament. The prophet only met him twice, first when waraqa was worshipping at the kaaba (before the prophetic mission) and he kissed the prophet’s forehead affectionately; the second occasion was when the prophet went to meet waraqa after receiving the first revelation. Waraqa died three years later and the revelation continued for about 23 years. It is ridiculous to assume that waraqa was the source of the contents of the qur’an. |
i also noticed that you do not know the difference between standardisation of the quran and compilation of the quran..standardisation was done by usman (ra) while compilation by abubakar (ra) |
About the quran...it was written during the lifetime of prophet muhammad(pbuh)..i dare you to bring your proof that it wasnt written during his lifetime. It was authenticated and written under his personal supervision. Now lets examine the roots of the myth which says that Usman (r.a.) had the Qur'an authenticated. 1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an Whenever the Prophet received a revelation, he would first memorize it himself and later declare the revelation and instruct his Companions (R.A. - Radhi Allahu Taala Anhu)- May Allah be pleased with him who would also memorize it. The Prophet would immediately ask the scribes to write down the revelation he had received, and he would reconfirm and recheck it himself. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was an Ummi(unlettered) who could not read and write. Therefore, after receiving each revelation, he would repeat it to his Companions. They would write down the revelation, and he would recheck by asking them to read what they had written. If there was any mistake, the Prophet would immediately point it out and have it corrected and rechecked. Similarly he would even recheck and authenticate the portions of the Qur'an memorized by the Companions. In this way, the complete Qur'an was written down under the personal supervision of the prophet (pbuh). 2. Order and sequence of Qur’an divinely inspired The complete Qur'an was revealed over a period of 22½ years portion by portion, as and when it was required. The Qur'an was not compiled by the Prophet in the chronological order of revelation. The order and sequence of the Qur'an too was Divinely inspired and was instructed to the Prophet by Allah (swt) through archangel Jibraeel. Whenever a revelation was conveyed to his companions, the Prophet would also mention in which surah (chapter) and after which ayat (verse) this new revelation should fit. Every Ramadhaan all the portions of the Qur'an that had been revealed, including the order of the verses, were revised and reconfirmed by the Prophet with archangel Jibraeel. During the last Ramadhaan, before the demise of the Prophet, the Qur'an was rechecked and reconfirmed twice. It is therefore clearly evident that the Qur'an was preserved and authenticated by the Prophet himself during his lifetime, both in the written form as well as in the memory of several of his Companions. |
dear eben, i will like to reply your post quote by quote but my browser is misbehaving and am not with my phone...so am going to reply you based on what i can summarise from your posts.....1 you pointed out that holy spirit is the comforter, and am going to prove to you why holy spirit isnt the comforter..1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." replace the comforter in the verse above with holy spirit and you will be saying that tthere is more than 1 Holy spirit since ANOTHER was used. So how many holy spirits do we have? |
i do realise some muslims do convert to christianity as lame as the excuse could be but this particular story is far from auuthentic...whats the source? Isnt it strange tha one who was once a muslim spelled muhammad as mohammad? |
may Allah rewaed you abundantly for this wonderful speech |
golpen: You have really tried jare my brother...what I've been able to deduce is that this man comes to NL/islam section when his grand kids have gone on holidays, so he's mostly less busy, looking for what to do.ameen brother..may Allah reward u abundantly and grant u jannah for ur jihad...ramadan kareem |
@truthman2012. When i posted this, i didnt do it for you cause i know you would never understtand..i posted it for others who would come here thinkng you have a point. And also you have a habit of creating other threads either in christianity or other sections informing others who might not know of this thread how you defeated the muslims and they couldnt come up with replies..by Allah who created me, i can reply to your rebuttals one by one but where does it lead to..? It leads to further arguments and arguments and arguments and am tired of arguing with someone who finds it difficult/ to understand 1+ 1 = 2. What am stil not sure of is IF YO CONSCIOUSLY REFUSE TO UNDERSTAND THESE EXPLANATIONS OR UNCONSCIOUSLY REFUTE THEM....i dont even know what to think of you anymore....may Allah guide you to the right path |
truthman2012: I cannot download. Why not copy and paste it here.i rili dnt knw how to do that but let me try |
For more info pls download thhis book and read from page 31 to 34 www.muslimsunnah.com/download/commonquestions_3rded.pdf |
(B) Gradual prohibition of intoxicants Another example of such verses is that related to gradual prohibition of intoxicants. The first revelation of the Qur'an to deal with intoxicants was the following verse from Surah Baqarah: "They ask thee concerning wine and gambling say: "In them is great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit." [Al-Qur'an 2:219] The next verse to be revealed regarding intoxicants is the following verse from Surah Nisa: "O ye who believe! approach not prayers with a mind befogged, until ye can understand all that ye say" [Al-Qur'an 4:43] The last verse to be revealed regarding intoxicants was the following verse from Surah Al-Maidah: "O ye who believe! intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handiwork; eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper." [Al-Qur'an 5:90] The Qur'an was revealed over a period of 22½ years. Many reforms that were brought about in the society were gradual. This was to facilitate the adoption of new laws by the people. An abrupt change in society always leads to rebellion and anarchy. The prohibition of intoxicants was revealed in three stages. The first revelation only mentioned that in the intoxicants there is great sin and some profit but the sin is greater than the profit. The next revelation prohibited praying in an intoxicated state, indicating that one should not consume intoxicants during the day, since a Muslim has to pray five times a day. This verse does state that when one is not praying at night one is allowed to consume intoxicants. It means one may have or one may not have. The Qur'an does not comment on it. If this verse had mentioned that one is allowed to have intoxicants while not praying then there would have been a contradiction. Allah (swt) chose words appropriately. Finally the total prohibition of intoxicants at all times was revealed in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 90. This clearly indicates that the three verses do not contradict each other. Had they been contradicting, it would not have been possible to follow all the three verses simultaneously. Since a Muslim is expected to follow each and every verse of the Qur'an, only by following the last verse i.e. of Surah Maidah (5:90), he simultaneously agrees and follows the previous two verses. Suppose I say that I do not live in Los Angeles. Later I say that I do not live in California. Finally I say, I do not live in the United States of America. This does not imply that these three statements contradict each other. Each statement gives more information than the previous statement. The third statement includes the information contained in the first two statements. Thus, only by saying that I do not live in the United States of America, it is obvious, that I also do not live in California nor New York. Similarly since consuming alcohol is totally prohibited, it is obvious that praying in an intoxicated state is also prohibited and the information that in intoxicants is "great sin and some profit for men; but the sin is greater than profit" also holds true. (C). Qur’an does not contain any contradictions The theory of abrogation does not imply that there is a contradiction in the Qur'an, since it is possible to follow all the verses of the Qur'an at the same time. If there is a contradiction in the Qur'an, then it cannot be the word of Allah (swt). "Do they not consider the Qur'an (with care)? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy (contradictions)." [Al- Qur'an 4:82] |
Although, I didn't plan to reply you on this but since you are fond of assigning victories to yourself whenever you are ignored when you argue sentimentally, I decided to quickly chip in this so as for people with clear heads to see that the answers you demanded were provided but you ignored them. Now to the point. Muslims believe in the theory of abrogation, i.e. they believe that certain earlier verses of the Qur'an were abrogated by verses revealed later. Does this imply that God made a mistake and later on corrected it? Allah says in the following verse: "None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?"2:106 A reference to this is also made in chapter 16 verse 101 of Surah Nahl. The Arabic word mentioned is ayat which means 'signs' or 'verses' and which can also mean 'revelations'. This verse of the Qur'an can be interpreted in two different ways: a. The revelations that are abrogated are those revelations that were revealed before the Qur'an, for example the Torah, the Zaboor and the Injeel. Here Allah (swt) says that He does not cause the previous revelations to be forgotten but He substitutes them with something better or similar, indicating that the Torah, the Zaboor and the Injeel were substituted by the Qur'an. b. If we consider that the Arabic word ayat in the above verse refers to the verses of the Qur'an, and not previous revelations, then it indicates that none of the verses of the Qur'an are abrogated by Allah but substituted with something better or similar. This means that certain verses of the Qur'an, that were revealed earlier were substituted by verses that were revealed later. I agree with both the interpretations. Many Muslims and non-Muslims misunderstand the secondinterpretation to mean that some of the earlier verses of the Qur'an were abrogated and no longer hold true for us today, as they have been replaced by the later verses of the Qur'an or the abrogating verses which is not true... Let us analyze a few such examples.. (A)Produce a recital like the Qur'an / 10 Surahs / 1 Surah: Some pagan Arabs alleged that the Qur'an was forged by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). Allah (swt) challenges these Arabs in the following verse of Surah Al-Isra: "Say: If the whole of Mankind and Jinns were together to produce the like of thisQur'an they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support." [Al-Qur'an 17:88] Later the challenge was made easy in the following verse of Surah Al-Hud: "Or they may say, "He forged it." Say, "Bring ye then ten Surahs forged, like unto it, and call (to your aid) whomsover ye can, other than Allah, if ye speak the truth!." [Al-Qur'an 11:13] It was made easier in the following verse of Surah Yunus: "Or do they say, "He forged it"? Say: "Bring then a Surah like unto it, and call (to your aid) anyone you can, besides Allah, if it be ye speak the truth!." [Al-Qur'an 10:38] Finally in Surah Al-Baqarah, Allah (swt) further simplified the challenge: And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Surah like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (if there are any) besides Allah if your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot - and of a surety ye cannot 'then fear the Fire whose fuel is Men and Stones' which is prepared for those who reject faith".[Al-Qur'an 2:23-24] Thus Allah (swt) made the challenges progressively easier. The progressively revealed verses of the Qur'an first challenged the pagans to produce a book like the Qur'an, then challenged them to produce ten Surahs (chapters) like those in the Qur'an, then one Surah and finally it challenges them to produce one Surah somewhat similar (mimmislihi) to the Qur'anic Surahs. This does not mean that the later verses that were revealed i.e. of Surah Baqarah chapter 2 verses 23 and 24 contradict the earlier three verses. Contradiction implies mentioning two things that cannot be possible simultaneously, or cannot take place simultaneously. The earlier verses of the Qur'an i.e. the abrogated verses are still the word of God and the information contained in it is true to this day. For instance the challenge to produce a recital like the Qur'an stands to this day. Similarly the challenge to produce ten Surahs and one Surah exactly like the Qur'an also holds true and the last challenge of producing one surah somewhat similar to the Qur'an also holds true. It does not contradict the earlier challenges, but this is the easiest of all the challenges posed by the Qur'an. If the last challenge cannot be fulfilled, the question of anyone fulfilling the other three more difficult challenges does not arise. Suppose I speak about a person that he is so dumb, that he would not be able to pass the 10th standard in school. Later I say that he would not be able to pass the 5th standard, and further say that he would not be able to pass even the 1st standard. Finally I say that he is so dull that he would not even be able to pass K.G. i.e. kindergarten. One has to pass kindergarten before one can be admitted to school. What I am stating is that the person is so dull as to be unable to pass even kindergarten. My four statements do not contradict each other, but my last statement i.e. the person would not be able to pass the kindergarten is sufficient to indicate the intelligence of that person. If a person cannot even pass kindergarten, the question of him passing the first standard or 5th or 10th, does not arise. |
Are u new in NL. The verses you quoted have been well dealt with and the questions av bn answered on several threads here on nairaland...the only reason nobodY replied you here its because nobody wants to keep repeating what he has said... |
golpen: With the plentiful of the human errors you've agreed with me that are contained in the bible, will you call the bible the words of the true GOD?... Definitely perfection cannot blend in any way with imperfection.I just love the way you handle truthman, mintayo and their likes. May Allah(SWT) reward you abundantly for your jihad...you have given them explanations but they never came here for explanations....so when people argue with jahl and karh, you let them be. Tnx brother...Ramadan kareem |
tnx 4 dis wonderful post...the problem is, they are not ready to listen...the funny part is that when they want to sight examples, they give examples of 9 year old been intimate wt a 90 year old...i have also asked them why cant they sight examples of 16 or 17 year oold getn married to 23...they are just trying so hard to make it loook bad...no 1 is asking elderly men to start avn sex with a 9year old...and no 1 is forcing anybody to give out his 6 year old daughter for sex or marriage but they will never undersatnd..... A topic was created about a twenty somethn year old raping a 9 year old and these idiots blame yerima for it...evn b4 yerima brought up this issue, has there not bn such incidence..what of the bishop that raped an underage girl, is yerima respponsible for his action tooo and many others....tunji, no matter how hard you try they havve made up their minds not to understand |
Handsomeemmy: My question is Will you give your daughter out in marriage at the age of 13 against her will?why is it that whenever you guys hear the mention of under age u always mention 12, 13 years:::if you are not bn 1 sided, y do u fail to mention 15, 16, 17.....how many gals within age of 12 to 17 have all lost their virginity, having countless abortions but you dont see anything wrong with it? Personally i dont plan on giving my daughter out at the age of 13 since thats your only description of underage marriage and no 1 is forcing me or you to do it:::the law was passed so that people like you wont consider it a criminal offence anymore.......if i remember correctly, in the 50s to 80s, no body saw a lady marrying at d age of 16, 17, 15 as any problem:::::go back to your village and you will confirm this::::::the only thing you guys should say is that the law should be ammended in a way that the girll shouldnt be forced and not raining down insults on them. |
Juell: This is a good movement, but most guys using android devices are rocking the MTN bis plans on their devices, wit a minimum of 3G per month for 1k.it doesnt work anymore |
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=XOD2KXXzsjM here is the full video |
I just can't help it but to see truth in lagoshia's message..saudi arabia from what I understand, don't really represent the muslims all over the world...is there any time saudi openly condemned injustice against other muslims all over the world? Them not allowing christians to practise their religion openly in the country isn't in the holy Qur'an or sunnatun nabiy(SAW) as far as I know...its a political decision and let's not try defending them by associating it with shari'ah....although considering how tricky and deceitful some christians can be, I commend them for those policies but they have nothing to do with islam(my opinion though).@op..have u ever asked yourself that despite these restrictions, why are there so many christians there? As far as I know, every country stil has the right to its own internal policies....picture it as this : this is my house, if you must come in, you must not be so so so and so and you must/nt do this and that.... Why should this be a problem when I set my rules..you asked if islam is tolerant? So op, this is based on politics..if you see a verse in the quran or hadith where you find these restrictions, then come back and ask if this is islamic tolerance. May Allah have mercy on us and forgive us our shortcomings..@tunji, roy, lagosshia and others, may Allah reward you all for your JIHAD.(AmEen) |
deols: That is for Saudi sir.Please stop saying this...islam is one.one ramadan, one eid and one hajj...is there a special moon for saaudi..its reported in the hadith of rasul that once the news of the sighting of the moon has being heard(I.e reliable source), we should fast..so which one is that is for saudi? Do if saudi sEes theirs on wednesday, and lagos didn't see, we should wait til we see the moon on thursday or friday? |
Ofunaofu: Nwa oguta, can u pls explain how Gov. Rochas is the worst governor?Guy, u no dey know joke...na joke him dey joke now |
engrhorla: Can u pls tell this forum how many democratically elected presidents Naija has had and how many have YOU experienced? Me think your uncle is AlamsDo people really mean this when they say it or they are just joking |
4.4. prophet Muhammad (pbuh) mentioned by name in the old testament: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16: "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) in the New Testament: All the prophecies mentioned in the Old Testament regarding Muhammad (pbuh) besides applying to the Jews also hold good for the Christians. 1. John chapter 14 verse 16: "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever." 2. Gospel of John chapter 15 verse 26: "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me." 3. Gospel of John chapter 16 verse 7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you". "Ahmed" or "Muhammad" meaning "the one who praises" or "the praised one" is almost the translation of the Greek word Periclytos. In the Gospel of John 14:16, 15:26, and 16:7. The word 'Comforter' is used in the English translation for the Greek word Paracletos which means advocate or a kind friend rather than a comforter. Paracletos is the warped reading for Periclytos. Jesus (pbuh) actually prophesised Ahmed by name. Even the Greek word Paraclete refers to the Prophet (pbuh) who is a mercy for all creatures. Some Christians say that the Comforter mentioned in these prophecies refers to the Holy Sprit. They fail to realise that the prophecy clearly says that only if Jesus (pbuh) departs will the Comforter come. The Bible states that the Holy Spirit was already present on earth before and during the time of Jesus (pbuh), in the womb of Elizabeth, and again when Jesus (pbuh) was being baptised, etc. Hence this prophecy refers to none other than Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). |
3.The Children of Abraham According to the Bible, God made a promise to Abraham about his descendants: I will establish my covenant as an everlasting covenant between me and you and your descendants after you for the generations to come, to be your God and the God of your descendants after you.[Genesis 17:7] In this verse we see God promising Abraham that He will have a covenant with his descendants. This covenant was fulfilled by God by sending Prophets from the descendants of Isaac to the Jews (e.g Daniel, Jacob, Jesus etc.). But the promise that was made to Abraham by God was to all of his descendants, so it makes sense that Prophets would also be sent from the descendants of Abraham’s other son Ishmael. In the Old Testament, God singled out the descendants of Ishmael (the Arabs) for a particular blessing: And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. [Genesis 17:20] According to the verse above, God tells Abraham about a ‘Great Nation’ to come from Ishmael. This is another reason why God would send Prophets amongst the Arabs, how could God call a nation great if they were to be unbelievers? Their greatness is defined by their belief and obedience to God. We see that Muhammad (pbuh) fits the description of a Prophet from the descendants of Ishmael, who called people back to the religion of Abraham. Muhammad (pbuh) did indeed come from that nation of rulers mentioned in Genesis 17:20. The book of Genesis tells us that Abraham left his wife (Hagar) and Ishmael to settle in ‘Paran’ (Genesis 21:21), which according to historians is in Arabia. Ishmael grew up and settled in Arabia and had twelve sons one of whom was called ‘Kedar’ (Genesis 25:13). Isaiah 21:13-17 confirms that the descendants of Kedar were in Arabia. It is well known that Muhammad (pbuh) was a direct descendant of Kedar. In the Davis Dictionary of the Bible it is stated that Kedar is ‘…A tribe descended from Ishmael … The people of Kedar were Pliny’s Cedrai, and from their tribe Mohammed ultimately arose’[2]. There were Jewish tribes in Medina (the city that the Muhammad (pbuh) migrated to) who had settled there because they were awaiting the arrival of a Prophet. In fact, Ben Shalom the Chief Rabbi of Medina embraced Muhammad (pbuh) as the Prophet whose arrival was foretold in their scriptures. Now let’s look at some interesting verses from Isaiah 42 about a messenger from Arabia. The Messenger from Arabia The Old Testament prophesises the coming of a Prophet from Arabia who would be from the descendants of Kedar. The verses of Isaiah 42 describe the coming of a Prophet who God refers to as ‘my Messenger’ (Isaiah 42:19). This Messenger would be from ‘the villages that Kedar inhabits’ (Isaiah 42:11), which means that the Messenger would emerge from Arabia since that’s where the villages of the descendants of Kedar lived according to Isaiah 21:13-17. This Messenger would give ‘judgment’, ‘light’ and ‘Law’ to the ‘Gentiles’ (Isaiah 42:1-4). Gentiles is a term referring to the non-Jews. This Messenger would be a ‘man of war’ who will first be persecuted and then will fight and defeat idol worshippers (Isaiah 42:13-17) . This description fits Muhammad (pbuh) exactly. Muhammad (pbuh) emerged from Arabia and was a direct descendant of Kedar, he was persecuted by and then fought and defeated the idol worshippers [3]. He bought about ‘judgment’ and ‘law’ to a lawless Arab people (Arabs would be classed as ‘Gentiles’) when he became the ruler of the Arabian Peninsula. |
bukatyne: i've been goin through some threads now and it seems muslims have this fantasy that Muhammad is the Comforter Jesus Christ promised. I'm surprised they cling to that even when they claim the Bible is corrupted. my question is why do they believe so? i believe this thread ll help them clear all doubts that The Holy Spirit and Mohammed have no relationship/correlation. No bashing, pls let's state our points in a matured way. thanksWhen muslims claim the bible is corrupted yet we quote verses from there..its because if I quote the quran as evidence to you, you wouldn't agree cos you don't believe quran to be the word of God.but if I quote from the bible to you, as a believer you must believe it since its your holy book..so let me give you some points why we believe the comforter the bible is speaking of is prophet muhammad(saw). Though, even though we belive the bible has been altered, there may still be some verses that can be considered as word of God. Here are the points: 1.John and the Priests In the Chapter of John, some Jewish priests quizzed John the Baptist about three people who they were informed about in their scriptures. They asked him: “Who are you?” John confessed (he didn’t deny but confessed), “I’m not the Christ.” They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” John said, “I’m not.” “Are you THE Prophet?” John answered, “No.” [John 1:19-21] So they then asked him, “Why do you baptize if you aren’t the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” [John 1:25] The priests were expecting three people as prophesied by their books, so they asked about Christ, Elijah and ‘the Prophet’. So who is ‘the Prophet’ they are referring to here? This cannot be a reference to Jesus as he is the Christ. Looking at a copy of the Bible with cross- referencing, we find that the words ‘the Prophet’ which occur in John 1:25 refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18 in the Old Testament, which also mentions a forthcoming Prophet. According to Deuteronomy 18:18 God speaks to the Prophet Moses and tells him that he will raise up a new Prophet who has certain clearly identifiable characteristics: I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. [Deuteronomy 18:18-19] In this prophecy God is telling Moses that he will raise a Prophet like him, who will be from ‘among their brethren’. Since these verses are directed to Moses and the Jewish People, the ‘brethren’ mentioned here are the brethren of the Jewish people. Now Abraham, the forefather of the Jewish nation had two sons, Ishmael and Isaac (Genesis 21). The children of Isaac are the cousins of the children of the Ishmael. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the children of Ishmael are the Arabs. ‘Brethren’ in the language of the Old Testament can refer to the Jews themselves (Numbers 32:6), or to the ancestral cousins of the Jews such as the Arabs, Edomites and others (see Deuteronomy 2:4,8 for usage of the word ‘brethren’). So the Arabs are considered the brethren of the Jews. 2.Muhammad and Moses Some people may claim that Jesus is the new Prophet being referred to in Deuteronomy18:18. However ‘the Prophet’ mentioned in John 1:25 can’t be Jesus because he is described as a separate person to ‘the Christ’. In addition to this, the verse informs us that the Prophet will have the characteristic of being someone who is ‘like’ Moses. Jesus was very different to Moses, but what about Muhammad (pbuh)? The table below compares the lives of the three men (peace be upon them all): Description Moses Mohammed Jesus Natural Birth ✓ ✓ X Married ✓ ✓ X Children ✓ ✓ X Given Prophethood at the age of 40 ✓ ✓ X Forced migration by enemies ✓ ✓ X Initially rejected by his people (Jews or Arabs), but then accepted ✓ ✓ X Statesman ✓ ✓ X New Legal Laws bought ✓ ✓ X Military Leader ✓ ✓ X United various tribes under one cause ✓ ✓ X Victory over enemies ✓ ✓ X Worshipped as God/Son of God (After departure) X X ✓ Of the Jewish Race ✓ X ✓ Called people to worship God alone ✓ ✓ ✓ There is no doubt that Moses and Muhammad (pbuh) are very similar. Many historians who have studied the lives of Moses and Muhammad (pbuh) have remarked upon the many similarities between them. The late Reverend James L. Dow (1908-1977) who authored the Collins Gem Dictionary of the Bible wrote under the entry of ‘Moses’: ‘’The only man in history who can be compared even remotely to him is Mohammed.’’ All of the evidence so far shows conclusively that Muhammad (pbuh) is the Prophet mentioned in John 1:25. There are still many people who reject Muhammad (pbuh) purely because he was not Jewish (i.e not from the Children of Isaac) But we know that Prophets such as Noah, who are also mentioned in the Bible, weren’t Jewish either. |
all4naija: You can get a paraffin lantern and go to your village if you so much wished to be in darkness. Nobody is preventing you from living your barbaric life in your village but don't bring it to haunt others who are willing to move forward as in progress.Hahahahahah...I just can't stop lafin......no body wants to live in darkness sir..all am saying is that it should be through the ryt means.....let me ask you this....what do they have to gain by investing so much on us..if u are actually business oriented individual, you would knw that its nt all relationship that are mutualistic sir..seriously, there is a catch in this and we will be at the receiving end |
@golpen Tnx so much...I will post the links to the videos soon |
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...yes I think I forgot was king james' birthday, so they gave him some horses. But then, what about the age of joaichin?
maybe he gave that out to a younger soul too. You better stop fooling yourself with your handicapped excuses. The bible refers to the same incident and the same time, yet we have the differences in the figures and people. Read your bible very well sire.