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Ukuts gp: John 3:13.
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is in heaven.

explain the above scripture for me

1 thessalonians 4:13-18.
But i would not have you to be ignorant bethren concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15. For this we say unto you by the word of the lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16. For the lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trump of God: and the dead in christ shall rise first:
17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the lord.
18. Wherefore Comfort one another with these words.

John 3:13.
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the son of man which is in heaven.

alexleo: Lies. These are your words and we can't take it. Luke 16:19-31 are the words of Jesus and that's what we ll take.

so u mean that your great grand father is in hell or heaven now? U forget that it is a parable. The dead will rise up in the last days. Dan 12:2.

kcjazz: The issue of whether it is right or wrong is based on intentions. If it is to propagate the gospel then yes it is a good thing but the question is has every other means being explored? And what is God saying to you.

At the end, God who sees will judge.

but they claim that it is a faster means to propagate the gospel than any other means.

Why the surprise.

If i have daughters, i will certainly make sure that none experience such a barbaric thing. It is evil and against God's will.

Anyone saying that a witch is responsible for his or her backwardness must be out of his or her mind.

Ok

asco15: Here is d conclusion for dis thread.
Who r our enemies? Certainly nt humans, but d devil and his demons who do posses human beings to carryout dia evil work. The holyghost fire is nt a physical fire but a spiritual fire, so it cn't burn people but it burn demons and evil spirit in people.
The bible says ''for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against prinicipalities, powers, rulers of darkness in high places'' meaning that even the bible recognises the fact that there are enemies of men in this world. Jesus rebuked evil spirits also while He was alive, but He didnt do that using the fire of the Holy Spirit then coz the ministry of the Holy Spirit was yet to be launched by then. And dn't 4get dat Jesus said, behold i give unto u powers to tread on serpents and scorpions, also He said dat wateva we bind on earth is bind in heaven and wateva we loose on earth is loose in heaven.
We must nt be ignorant of d power of d holy ghost in us, dn't let dis small small witches and demons to intimidate u, for power and authority has been given unto us in d name of Jesus.

does spiritual fire consume physical humans?

How does the tower of babel brought different denomination? What is ur point?

Thanks too in advance

MEILYN: erm, so that verse means graves will open and everybody that died will resurrect? Smh

what can u pick out from this scripture? I dnt know, pls explain it.

1 corinthians 15:13-20.
But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is christ not risen:
14. And if christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that he raised up christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16. For if the dead rise not, then is not christ raised:
17. And if christ be not raised, your faith is vain, ye are yet in your sins.
18. Then they also which are fallen asleep in christ are perished.
19. If in this life only we have hope in christ, we are of all men most miserable.
20. But now is christ risen from the dead and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Daniel 12:2.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt

HumbledbYGrace: did you open that thread? If not please give me the name of the person who did.

i did

HumbledbYGrace: Link please sir.

i am currently using phone now. The thread is on d religion section now.

Evil Brain: Male circumcision is almost as bad. Imagine, your wife gives birth to a baby boy who is healthy and perfect in every way, and the first thing you can think of doing is to cut off a piece of his pénis. You expose your helpless newborn son to a surgery that has little or no benefit and carries serious risks including HIV, Hepatitis B, penile amputation fistulas and gangrene just because the oyimbos told you their god said you should.

Society turns a blind eye to some horrible things because the big religions promote them. For me, anybody who tries to put a knife near my child's génitals is going to die that day.

are u sure that male circumcision have any effect compared to female? So u mean that u will not circumcise ur male child? One question more. where u circumcised at all?

Pastor Olu T: Read it first then we discussed, what's the essence of going over again which will continue to generate more questions?

just post the link here

Empredboy: My i understand ur stand. Bt let me ask u wats d gratest comandment of God? I guess d bible said luv of God n man. So if catholics can do dat den all ur theory re nt useful.

but in this case, they are nt loving God but disobeying him.

GeneralShepherd: I was a christian, I grew up studying the bible everyday up until say 3months ago when it stopped making sense to me!

But in all my studying never did I see a place where a partcular church declared that ALL the members of another church will go to hell!

Even bible said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against the church! Unless you are God,you have no right to declare what church goes to hell or not!

Is it you tithe thieving pastors that you think deserve the 'imaginary' heaven?

See what Jesus said about them,
Matt 19 vs 24

Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the
eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the
kingdom of God."

Check out another cool thing Jesus said about hypocrites like you
Matt 7 vs 3-5
3. “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s
eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How
can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of
your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and
then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your
brother’s eye.

you see how satan cornered you and you backslided?

It is a barbaric and unscripural and christian should desist from it

Pls i recommend the topic 'female circumcision is barbaric and evil' for fp. Thanks.

nora544: https://www.nairaland.com/1486347/policeman-brutalises-daughter-over-witchcraft

read this than you will understand and i can give you a name from a pastor from the RCCg church who write about witchcraft.

i hv read the story and i couldn't believe that such thing could happened in this 21st century. Hw can a father label his very little daughter a witch because of one false and visionless prophet looking for money. It could even be that he himself is the architech of his own misfortune.

Female circumcision or cutting, usually refered to as female genital mutilation involves cutting out or operating on the Instruments of girls in order to conform to cultural or religious traditions or beliefs which have no health benefits whatsoever.

Among several reasons given to discourage the acts the following stand out: it serves as a route for the transmission of HIV, Hepatitis B infections, it causes the stenosis of the introitus leading to obstructed labour, stillbirths, haemorrhage. It leads to frigidity hence sexual expression in marriage is jeopardized leading to unhappy homes. It is a traumatic experience that renders some of the victims a psychological wreck. It make the Instruments ugly making the victims to hide their body, difficulties in passage of urine, neurogenic shock as a result of pain and trauma, septicaemia, development of cysts, abscesses and genital ulcers, excessive scar tissue formation, menstrual problem, painful sexual intercourse etc.

Furthermore there is no where in the bible that states, commands or even remotely suggests, implies, hints or infer that a female be circumcised.
God only instructed Abraham to circumcise only the males in Genesis 17:10-14. So, doing this is purely satanic and evil.

nora544: https://www.nairaland.com/1486347/policeman-brutalises-daughter-over-witchcraft

read this than you will understand and i can give you a name from a pastor from the RCCg church who write about witchcraft.

ok

Pastor Olu T: Dont u see that u err for you know not the scriptures nor the power of God? God is not a God of the dead but the living!

If u care to know more u can check my thread "Judgment".

tell me first, why the resurrection

nora544: It would help more when the pastors preach that a christian should have no fear.

Did you forget the story from a pastor from the RCCG church who told parents that there daughter is a witch, is this christian.

can u give the full story? I dnt know what happened in Rccg

Seed of Onan: More like non primitive people, not just atheists, the rest of the world looks at you all with utter disbelief as to how childish, ignorant & PRIMITIVE! You witchcraft believers are! Any one guilty of accusing someone of witchcraft should be arrested for slander & defamation of character.

u must be out of your mind to think witchcraft dnt exist.

I have been reading the links u gave here. And it was really enriching? Pls post all the links relating to tithe on this forum here for me, including the malachi 3:8-10 scam by Goshen 360 which i have not been following all this while cos of my busy schedule. I will be reading them from time to time. Cheers.

DrummaBoy: On this forum the debate on tithing is very intense and there may not be a more debated topic than it here. I will implore you to your research and study.

I was helped to make my conclusions on tithing with this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1239719/questions-frosbel-tithing

When you have the time you could read through it and come to your own conclusion to, albiet prayerfully.

I recommend this online book with it also: http://tekoapublishing.com/books/tithing/index.html

So study, like a Berean brethren, to show yourself approved unto God.

Cheers.

ok. no problem

There is nobody in hell or heaven till after resurrection.