Ma'asha'Allah

Akin1212:


Questions 7 and 8

If Allah wants to test the faith of mankind, is it by using the evil he created the only way to go by it? Did he not know that many humans will fail since he is all knowing?

he uses good things to like. Wealth and status(fame) to test



Yes he knows Many are going to fail that's why he created hell for the non adherent

Akin1212:


Instead of coming back here to continue, we can schedule a meeting. I am also in Zaria. Maybe you will be able to hammer your points well when you talk.

ok sir
where particularly but I will prefer it to be in shika email your phone number to me so that I can contact you sir this is my Gmail account shittuumar11@gmail.com
Sir

I have an appointment with a surgeon this morning in shika Zaria I will continue when I come back in the evening Sir
have a good day Mr akin

Akin1212:


Questions 5 and 6.

Fast forward to 15:39 - I want to believe Iblis is Satan. When he said to Allah that he will seduce his creations, why didn't Allah bar him from that? Satan is seducing humans and the humans didn't know he struck the deal with God. Allah just revealed the Koran not long ago which carried the message, but the people who lived before then didn't know. Is that fair to humans?

like I said b4 Allah also want to test the faith of mankind


Allah has been sending his message since d day he created the world to mankind either signs or through his prophets
indeed Allah is a merciful and just Lord
sir

15:26. Surely, We created human being from dry ringing clay, (transformed) from black mud moulded into shape.
15:27. And We created the jinn before (him) from the fire of intensely hot wind.
15:28. And (recall the time) when your Lord said to the angels, ‘I am, indeed, going to create a human being from dry ringing clay (formed) from black mud, moulded into shape.
15:29. ‘So when I have shaped him in perfection and have breathed My revelation into him, fall you down in submission to him.’
15:30. And (when He created the human being,) the angels submitted, all of them together.
15:31. But Iblîs (though he was separately bidden to do the same, did not). He stubbornly refused to be with those who submit.
 15:32. (Lord) said, ‘Iblîs! What is (the reason) with you that you would not be with those who submit?’
 15:33. He replied, ‘I would never submit to a human being whom You have created from dry ringing clay (formed) from black mud, moulded into shape.’
 ‎15:34. (Lord) said, ‘(If it is so) then get out from this (state), for, surely, you are rejected.
  15:35. ‘And of course (My) disapproval shall be on you till the Day of Requital.’
   15:36. He said, ‘My Lord, then grant me respite till the day when these (human beings) shall be raised (to spiritual life).’
   15:37. (Lord) said, ‘You are indeed of those already granted respite,
    15:38. ‘Till the day of which the time is known (to Me).’
    15:39. He said, ‘My Lord! Since You have condemned me as astray (and erring), I will surely make (evil of straying from the straight path) fair-seeming to them (as long as they stay) on the earth; I shall seduce them all,
     15:40. ‘Except your (sincere) servants from among them; (Your) chosen and purified ones, (whom I shall not be able to seduce).’
      15:41. (Lord) said, ‘The path (that My sincere servants follow) leads straight to Me.

Akin1212:


Merciful? Does it mean nothing will happen to Satan in the end and he will be spared? Because that is the meaning of mercy. To spare someone.

no It doesn't mean he won't be punish for eternity

Satan request for tym b4 his punishment

Answers to no 2
Yes
Nd Allah is really un questionable

Akin1212:
I have asked a ton of Christians and Muslims, the children and slaves of Jehova and Allah these two questions. The wonder is that the first question's answer always raise the second question and they go mute. Answer it if you can but intelligently, but if you are stupid and you like e-war, I'm also at home for you.

1. Why can't God just kill Satan and everything will go back to normal, after all, he created him, so he should know how to kill him.

Their typical answer is always - God, either one, is a just God and he must follow due process.

And then the second question pops up

2. Can God do and undo and is he unquestionable?


If God can do and undo and is unquestionable, then the law can't hold him or question him.
If the law can question him, then he cannot do and undo and he is questionable. It's a simple logic

If you can answer this, and I can't argue it anymore, then I'm your convert.

because Allah is a merciful lord that. Why he accepted the plea of satan
And it's also a way of testing the iman(faith) of makind

plainbibletruth:


Which TOPIC that has been addressed do I keep bringing up?

u knw the topics am refering to

plainbibletruth:


Is there a "spirit" in Islam that has a tendency toward aggression and other hostile and violent behaviours?

Just thinking out loud!

Not really asking for a reply.

no
It just my personality i don't lock aggression in my hearth I vent it out
once get provoked. I flip the humanity switch just like "Damon"

enilove:



Ishmael was not a prophet neither was Lot . Jethro was a priest and not a prophet:

Exodus 3:1 KJV
Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, ......

A prophet is someone who delivers messages from God to the people.That is, he is someone who utters divinely inspired revelations.

Biblically , Lot was not a prophet because there is no record of any message he received from God for the people arround him as at then.

Ishmael was not a prophet and no record of any divine message he received as well. The fact that he was born by Abraham does not make him a prophet. Abraham had many other children aside from Ishmael and Isaac , can we refer to them as prophets too?

Is there any where in the quran where the messages of God from Ishmael was mentioned?

in d bible there are not prophet which must have been misinterpreted to keep you sinking in ignorance


Ismael and his father built the kaabah. Where all muslims face to worship Allah


Sir pls let end this discussion here because some guys are provoking me already to avoid venting the anger on the wrong person pls sir let's end it here

plainbibletruth:


Why are you answering your own question instead of addressing the OP's questions?

Are you trying to DEFLECT the issues?
If not, why don't you go back, take a careful look at the questions and answer if you can.

he has answered it
But op am not sure passed through anything called a school

I have noticed something about you:why do you keep bringing up topic that has been adressed?

OtemSapien:
And these are the kind of people that will be telling our catholic folks the story of one Fatima who saw Mary. Hmm.

http://www.factsuniversity.com/science/30-list-of-4-roman-catholic-popes-who-died-during-sex-1-actually-died-while-being-sodomised.html

chop shake guy

Empiree:
You are dealing with dull people especially Op

how do you mean sir

plainbibletruth:


Here we go again!

Let me put here part of the version YOU quoted:
"... and then there comes to you a Messenger fulfilling that which is with you, you shall surely believe in him and have to help him ..."

Please, where is "past tense" here?

Allah is telling these prophets that a Messenger will come to them and that they are to "believe" him and "help" him.

They couldn't have believed in him and helped him in the "past", could they?

discussion closed

Emusan:


Why Ishmeal and not Abraham himself?

Then why did Qur'an says Muhammad was the first prophet in Arab?

Because Abraham migrated to saudia where his wife later gave birth to Ismaeel ( in saudia)


Discussion closed

Emusan:


Just imaging, so it's now "helped" which is past tense whereas see the very version you quoted: "...and then there comes to you a Messenger fulfilling that which is with you, you shall surely believe in him and have to help him.’..."

To you the messenger who will fulfill what is with the people here is obviously Muhammed and the verse goes on to say this same messenger "...SHALL surely..."

the " messenger" is Rasul (SAW) nd the "you" are his (ummah)followers and not the (anbiya)prophet


And this is where I end this dis discussion because like my brother in Islam just said you will keep on twisting the verse till I get provoked then I get agressive

Discussion closed

plainbibletruth:


Were these the Prophets Allah spoke to who are "to help" the messenger who is to come - Mohamed?

they've helped "past tense" you might need to review the verse again
And not only the whole of d 24 prophets B4 him


Wall'Allahu a'alam
tym for salat

BRB

enilove:


Which of them were arab prophets?

Ismaeel(AS)-Ishmeal was originated from Saudi arabia
Lûth(AS)-Lot was originated from Iraq

Shoaib(AS)-jethro was originated from syria

Sir

Emusan:


OK if you don't know let me ask in this way for a better understanding.

Was there any prophet in Arab before Muhammed that Allah was addressing among the Prophets?

Yes they were arab prophets

Emusan:


You agree it's THE PEOPLE before Muhammed, now

"The PEOPLE " are they Arabian or Non-arabian?

I don't no their tribe how do you expect me to know or did I tell you I'm all-knower?

Emusan:


You called it self explanatory verse and yet you're the one who lacked the simple comprehension.

Here is the INTRO of the verse: "3:81. (Recall the time) when Allâh bound (the people) to a covenant through the Prophets (saying),..."

i. (Recall the time): This shows that it's a past event being narrated.
ii. when Allah bound (the people): who are these people?

The people of Muhammed? No!
The people of the Prophets? Yes!

Are the Prophets Arabian? No!

iii. Bound (the people) to a COVENANT through the Prophets: If the Prophets and the people aren't Arabian, why Muhammed an Arabian sent by Allah?

Or you can simply tell us the people who Allah is referring to, than that will clear the air.

the people before the prophet Muhammad's (SAW) people
So where is the eror he claimed Allah made

malvisguy212:
good observation, welcome bro

malvisguy212:
good observation, welcome bro

*laughing*

malvisguy212:
if you cannot answer the question, why are you a Muslim ?

it because it's soaked tissue paper that is locked inside your skull that why you couldn't see that I and iamgenius have answered your question

Amberon11:
But Muslims are the dirtiest people in nigeria Na.you have mallams and abokis that don't bath for months. Hahahah

Hadiths on Importance of Cleanliness

Here the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) gave the greatest importance to remaining clean by declaring it as a part of faith.

1. Abu Malik Al-Ash`ari (RA) reported that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
“Purity is half of iman (faith). “

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) provided Muslims with a means to please Allah (SWT) through something that is beneficial to them.

2. Aisha (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said, “The miswak (a twig used for tooth brushing) cleanses and purifies the mouth and pleases the Lord.”
(An-Nasa’I and IbnKhuzaimah; authenticated by Al-Albani)

3. Abu Hurairah (RA) reported that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said,
“Were it not that I might overburden my followers, I would have commanded them to use the miswak before every prayer.”
(Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) declared personal hygiene to be basic human nature.

4. Abu Hurairah (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said:
“Five practices are of the fitrah (natural disposition): circumcision, shaving the pubic region, clipping the nails and cutting the moustaches short.”
(Al-Bukhari and Muslim)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) informed us of one of the ways on how to gain forgiveness on the best day for Muslims

5. Abu Dharr (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said:
“Whoever takes a bath on a Friday and does it well, and purifies himself and does it well, and puts on his best clothes, and puts on whatever Allah decrees for him of the perfume of his family, then comes to the mosque and does not engage in idle talk or separate (pushing between) two people; he will be forgiven for (his sins) between that day and the previous Friday.”
(IbnMajah and authenticated by Al-Albani)

Prophet Muhammad (SAW) not only gave importance to personal hygiene by also informed us to keep the environment clean.

6. Mu`adh (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) warned,
“Beware of the three acts that cause you to be cursed: relieving yourselves in shaded places (that people utilize), in a walkway or in a watering place.”
(Ranked sound, hasan,by Al-Albani)

7. Abu Dharr Al-Ghafari (RA) reported that the Prophet (SAW) said,
“Removing harmful things from the road is an act of charity (sadaqah).”
(Authenticated by Al-Albani)



So is either you are lying or they don't knw what they are doing or they are not muslims

Wall'Allahu a'alam

plainbibletruth:
It's clear that majority of Moslems have been CONDITIONED to only accept what they are told about the quran, The hadith and Islam.

Point them to a clear INCONSISTENCY or ERROR in the quran (the quran which btw Mohamed never wrote but recited to others who eventually compiled the recitations into a book several years after his death) and they will refuse to see it because that would go against their CONDITIONING. Going ahead to accept weaknesses in Islam would mean confronting the TRUTH; something many of them are unwilling or afraid to face.

That is why NOT ONE OF THEM has been able to answer the questions asked on just a single simple portion of the quran. They just can't face the truth!

Jesus Christ said:
"I am the way, and the TRUTH, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me" John 14: 6

agreed
1. I don't practice the religion which I can't pray to GOD directly
2. I don't practice un hygienic religion both th pastor and followers can just stand anywhere (infront of ladies,children,guyz) like dogs to urinate and they don't clean up, and any slight dirt or impurity I get often get skin irritation ie allergy.

NOETHNICITY:
disrespect women like this?

guy what sort of animal are you? Are you mad?
U can't just come and be posting pornographic pictures on my thread if that was how you were brought up fine and don't ever in your life post pornographic pictures on my thread
Let this be the first and last warning to you now remove those disgusting pictures. Before I report you

chubbyswit:
shut up with your lies. I served in the core north. They are the only ones that take their bath in the pit toilets when there are bathrooms in the lodge. Why? Why? Why?

oga you are sick
Where precisely in d north and stop barking like a dog

Emusan:


I didn't go to any website to do copy and paste but I only analyzed a Qur'anic verse which you yourself quoted.

My point and question still remain,
I can't but help to ask after reading this verse, why would Allah now send a messenger to those who Allah didn't make covenant with?

If you don't know it's better to remain silent!

last I check it u dat can't comprehend a simple self explanatory verse.


And who has tym for you

Amberon11:
i wont even waste my precious time trying to refute your rubbish

you can't because. Is truth