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Beuberry:
How you wan take humiliate the truth? You just disgraced yaself. In your bid to discredit Yorubas you opened up more truth that depicts Benin Yorubas relationship which started when Odede was ya first king.
You said Nigeria education system is dead but others were able to carbe out their history except Benins. If ya educational systems them, wetin come concern Yorubas.
It's obvious the 1897 nuking of Benin by the British has entered ya brain. Possibly you be Ologbosere's descendant cos the string head of suffer for nothing showed clearly on ya head.
Looking at ya name Thebadpolitician, one would see that you are indeed cantankerous in mind.
All you wrote were just secondary school tales.


Now let's examine ya lies.
1. When did Benin & Oyo fight battle sotey Benin defeated Oyo forces? Shey na Dahomey you dey claim? Dahomey wey be half Yoruba & half Ewe? Those ones sef get better brain?

2. If you said Ife no get artworks, who come get am?
The artworks had names. You said the king of Ife just dey dress like the Ife bronze. Do you v any pic of any early Ife kings to determine their look? Why are you so pained about progress of Yorubas? I thought ya concern should be the north? Who do you juju sotey ya brain come mad?

3. Egharevba made adjustments to his analysis cos Ologboseres like you threatened him.

4. Benin & Ife art are so similar. Na jealousy of Ife naturalism that's worrying you.

5. You said I selected just one similar Benin art to that of Ife when there are numerous online. The jealousy of Yorubas from you has eaten ya sense! You said the artworks has open head & Benin no get. Can't their be change in styles? Must Benins do copy & pastor A-Zee? Ancient Benins wise pass you cos if ma you na copy n paste as you did in school you go do.


* Ife & Benin artworks has beaded necks
* Both made busts to depict head as source of life
* Both are made in bronze casting
* Both showed artworks controlled by influence of the palace
* Both are memorial artworks.
* Both has intricate decorations & more.
Below is pic of Oba Oguola and another image of an Ige king and queen. Dressing in similar style to depict there was similarities from ancient times.
Pic 1 Benin
Pic 2 Ife
Pic 3 Benin queen mother
Pic 4 Ife ancient queen image.
Look at the eyes o, the stylized eyes, beads, head etc.
Are you still blind to see the similarities, dear Uncle modern day Ologbosere?

abdeefggh:
And so mr winter cap? If you have not seen it, it means it doesn't exist?

EquitableTech:
Igodomigodo Bini

Elders At Home...Tell Your History To Your Offsprings

Do not allow irresponsible adults in position of authority tell your childrens the wrong version of your history.

Enough!...The Yorubas will no longer be quiet henceforth.

Fact is that nobody went to call Oranmiyan, and this is evidence from the accounts of all other ethnic group that was also living inside Igodomigodo before the arrival of Oranmiyan.
The Esan, Ijaw, Urhobos, Isokos and some Igbos, all of them have in their history account, exactly what this page wrote, that Oranmiyan was a Yoruba warrior from Yoruba that invaded and unleashed mayhem on the people of Igodomigodoas as the reason all of them migrated out of Igodomigodo.
Olukunmi who were Yoruba people living inside Igodomigodo migrated out before Oranmiyan arrived, but they also left with a very crucial history account, that Ekerdelahan whom Bini claimed was their son that went to Ile ife, was actually k!lled and they sighted this as the reason they left Igodomigodo, that they felt unsafe that if this ones can k!ll their prince how much more them that are not part of them.
Ogiso Owodo that the Bini claimed was their son and father of Ekerdelahan has been said by Esan people that it was their own son and he never had any son that went to ile ife. The truth is that for every Bini history account there are always verifiable factors that debunked them, they just would not stop propagating their lies that almost everyone in Nigeria already know it’s a lie but only them.
Even the woman that gave birth to Owomika that was corrupted to Eweka has been said to be Esan woman. The tribe Bini came into existence after Oranmiyan fought war with Ogiso Irebor who was the ruling Ogiso.
Bini like to claim Ogiso Owodo was the last Ogiso but he is not, there was Evian and Irebor, both are not Binis and were not related to the Yorubas, they like to claim Evian was some chief who help them to k!ll a monster and for some reason they made him a temporary head of the land and when Oranmiyan arrived he refused to leave the throne, which is not true, Evian was the brother of Owodo who took over the throne after Owodo and ruled and his son Irebor also ruled after.
Oranmiyan invaded the reign of Evian, he could not capture Igodomigodo for many years, in btw this years was when he gave birth to Owomika and left Igodomigodo to go and establish Oyo empire then came back several years after Owomika is grown.
Mind you, Owomika was not the only Yoruba Igodomigodo babies inside Igodomigodo at this time, Oranmiyan also packed a lot of Yoruba men from Ile ife into Igodomigodo, that is evidence from one Benin chief who confirmed that he is the descendants of those people who came with Oranmiyan from ile ife, if you want the video I can send it to you.
These Yoruba men also made a lot of Yoruba babies in Igodomigodo over the same years Owomika was growing, when Oranmiyan came back, these kids were already grown; these are the people he started using to fight war with Ogiso Irebor.
The fight was intense but Ogiso Irebor was determined that there will never be an Oba in Igodomigodo that Oba do not belong to Igodomigodo, a statement that gave birth to the word Ogiamen.
After intense fight, Ogiso Irebor said he can’t continue to kill their own people cause even tho those people Oranmiyan is using to fight the war are Igodomigodo kids with Yoruba fathers Ogiso Irebor still see them as their kids.
So he said he can’t continue to kill their own and that’s when he broke a treaty with Oranmiyan and Eweka and gave them that part of Igodomigodo that is closer to Yoruba land that became bini empire and bini city today.
These Yoruba-Igodomigodo people and the people of other ethnicities who did not migrate out of this part of Igodomigodo that given to Oranmiyan by Ogiso Irebor cause many of them migrated out, joined with this Yoruba-Igodomigodo people to form the Bini tribe, from the word ile Ibinu Oranmiyan gave the land which was corrupted to a bini by the Portuguese.
This is why only Bini among all other Edo subgroups shares similarities with the Yorubas today, and have people that shares similarities with the Yoruba like bearing Yoruba names.
There are still some Yorubas in the Owan region, those ones are not even Oranmiyan people but another Yoruba warrior named Ogedenge who brought a lot of Yorubas with him from Ilesha when he seek refuge in Bini from war that was going on within the Yorubas themselves. Some account claimed he also conquered that part of Bini.

Jewessgratitud3:
I just thought to share and again it's no bodys business what I share about myself here. I chose to do it and don't care if it sits well with anyone or not. My life, my share .

I'm sharing this just to let some ladies know that being a widower doesn't break a man and will not stop him from being an unrepentant cheat if he wants to. I used to think a widower will be more responsible and loyal to one woman considering the fact that he's now a second hand value bachelor and the death of his former wife will make him get closer and more committed to his spouse, home and family at large but I was wrong cos after my experience with one, I realized men will always be cheat men.

This happened in 2013 after staying away from relationships for a long time. So I joined Badoo ( it was the rave then, though I joined in 2012). A young man ( in his 40s then) chatted me up and I checked his profile. There he stated that he was looking for a lady for serious relationship and added he was a Christian. He was also looking very handsome and tall. We chatted and exchanged numbers.

When we got talking he told me he was a widower. It was hard to believe because he looked very young. He now told me he married very early. He went ahead and told me he has 6 children 👀👀👀. I didn't believe until he showed me their pics. 4 girls and two boys. He said the wife kept having children because she wanted a male child and died after giving birth to the last child, a male. She got home from the hospital after childbirth and started bleeding immediately and was rushed back to the hospital but never made it back. Meanwhile he was not in the country when this happened.

This made me have compassion and developed feelings for him. After a few months of inviting me over, I finally agreed to visit after he assured me the elder sister is staying with him to look after the baby ( he was already a year then but was not walking). He never liked the boy because he was always saying the boy caused his wifes death and each time the baby boy sees him, he'll be screaming due to the way he looks at the baby and I'll be telling him to stop, teasing him that it's him the boy resembles. So when I visited for the first time, I was shocked at what I saw. He actually owns the house he was living in in Sango. He built it when the going was good but after the wife's death, he came back and stayed for a whole year without a job. He just got the job he was doing as a hotel manager when I met him and his take home was not good at all. So to maintain the big house was a challenge. He could barely feed his kids. Even the two older ones were not with him. They were living with his brother just to ease him of the burden. when the sister saw me, she got angry and told him that he has not finished taking care of his children he's bringing in another lady. He told me to ignore the sister and face him. If I go there, I'll cook and serve everybody because he was always complaining of not having money but sometimes he'll give me part of the money I used.

Initially the children didn't like me and he said I should be buying them snacks. So then if I close from work, I'll go and meet him at his office and we'll go home together. I bought snacks and the children reluctantly collected the snacks. He went to work on that Saturday and I gathered the children and started telling them stories. They began to come close. When he got back he drove all of us to a football viewing center and bought me pepper soup. I thought I had found the right man. I was even saying I don't need to birth any children since he already has six. We'll just stay with his own children ( lol . small girl sense). He would tell me no, that he wants me to give him a beautiful daughter like me.

Six months into the relationship, I noticed something in his room while he was away at work. I saw a foreign prison card in his jacket I now began to connect the dots. I remembered him saying he was away when the wife died and while she was pregnant, he had problem abroad. So she developed BP. He even told me he wasn't around when his house was built that the wife supervised the whole thing before he now had a problem but be never told me what the problem was. I then discovered with the prison card, he was prolly in jail all that time. I didn't ask him anything.

Later he started telling me there's this single mother that has been begging him to marry her and she buys him stuff. I was like marry her now afterall two of una na second hand value. He'll laugh and say God forbid. That he wants chassis. The lady buys him and his children stuff. At a point I told him to stop collecting the gift or risk our relationship. He promised to stop.

One day he was sleeping and i was just going through his phone ( I never used to do that) and saw "my love". My head sparked. I woke him up with a heavy slap and showed him, he started saying its you I love. I said no! Tell me who this Is.. then I began to cry because I just knew it was over. He started begging and called his Aunty into the room. The aunty said the person is a family. I said call her. He now called the number and an elderly woman picked and he started telling her that I'm crying my eyes out here because I saw a message he sent to her. The woman spoke with me but I wasn't convinced. Throughout that night, he played "please forgive me' Brian Adams. hmm.. feeling nostalgic now. I calmed down and we continued.


After some months my chairman sacked me because I refused to go out with him and told him I'm in a relationship. After I lost my job I reduced my visits because bus fare from mainland to Sango was quite expensive and he too could not sponsor my visits regularly due to so much financial responsibilities and since I had been the one doing it when I was working. It became a once in a while thing.

Then one day, he told me to come to his office let's go home that he has missed me. I asked him, do you have money he said we'll manage. This man did not tell me we were going by train ( chai things we do for love) from his office we set out to oshodi. This man put head for train lane. I said waaaat t... I almost went back but it was already getting dark. I entered train for the first time. See me shaking. He had to hold me before one man now stood up for me to sit. Because it's been a while I've been to the house, when we got home, the aunty said you'll not stay in one place. Today you carry this, tomorrow you carry another one. I told him what the sister said and he told me not to mind her. In my mind i was like... see this second wen I dey manage too wan dey play ... I kept asking until he now confessed that the Aunt was referring to the other single mother that the lady has been forcing herself on him but it's me he wants. There and then I zeroed my mind.

After that visit, as we were going that morning, we quarreled on the way because the vehicle we borded got spoilt plus I wasn't happy after hearing what the sister said. So I was just edgy that morning and blasted the driver and some of the passengers. He got angry and left after trying to get me off the bus and I refused, saying I should run after him cos he's running late for work. I was just looking at him. I didn't get down. I waited for him to go far, I now got down and took another route to my house.

I didn't call for a week and refused to pick his calls because whats the point killing myself over a widower with six children who has refused to stick with one woman. When I eventually picked, it was my guy ( now ex) who told me to pick in the bus that day we were going to camp and he was chyking me. Oga kept calling and as usual I ignored him but the sound was disturbing our conversation so my gy told me to pick and hear him out. I picked and he was crying and put all his children on the phone to beg me. He said they are missing me and one of them is sick. I said ok, I'll call you later. That was it. I blocked him. Went to Badoo and blocked him there in fact I deleted my Badoo account. Deleted his number and ended the whole thing..

Men will always be men

Modified

When I said all men are the same what I'm simply implying is, whether they are poor, rich, widower or handicapped they will still cheat or have that tendency to cheat. Take it or get lost!

A man's vulnerability doesn't stop him from exhibiting those bad habits (cheating and deception). They'll will always do that thing that make us call them meennnn... If you know what I mean and if you don't Gerrit, forget abourit. .

Righteousness2:
Very foolish move from SA leadership.

Make no Mistake!!
GOD ALMIGHTY foreign policy is pretty simple!

You Bless ISRAEL, You are Blessed!
You Curse ISRAEL, you are Cursed!

Genesis 12:1-3
Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Any wise Nation or person that has understanding of the times and Seasons will stand with Unshakeable with ISRAEL.

GOD will Deal ruthlessly with all nations that stand against the Apple of HIS eyes.
Nations and people should go read the book of Joel in the Holy Bible.

Olu317:
Oh yes! There were ifaodu corpus on Bini which was an integral part of ileife Suzerainty .

Bini became a powerful Kingdom when bilateral trade contact was estabished with Portuguese in which there were access to dane gun. This triggered the plausible expansion to few Yoruba Eastern settlement which shortlived .

Unfortunately, the ifaodu corpus is not meant for here as such because such spirituality belonged to the initiates, hence, I cannot over emphasise such stanzas.

Olu317:
Ifa corpus have stanzas that mentioned many things about Bini. So, I know better.

MXrep:
While the story of Eri coming from Isreal is difficult to prove and has been subject to debate for long, why has Oduduwa falling from sky (something practically impossible) become a settled matter and accepted by supposedly sophisticated people? And why are they always the first to mock whenever Eri Jewish connection is discussed? Can they really launch serious research on Oduduwa origin instead of the cheap tales of falling from sky?

Olu317:
Funny Lad. Seem you cannot comprehend my point ? Yorubas didn't give Oba Bini any praise names.

It was Bini Royal Courtyard that praise Oba Bini ancestral praise names of his Yoruba ancestry which was documented by an Author who researched it and established this fact.

Bunch of absolute liars.

Olu317:
I ask you question . Did Ekarlederan lived or existed in 1100AD ? I mean during the time Oranmiyan came to Igodmigodo.. If yes, Obalufon 1 was on the throne.

Infact, it only burst Edo liars that Oduduwa was on the throne as at this period.

Obalufon is different family entirely from Oduduwa-Ogun-Oranmiyan outrightly.

Ileife history and families will tell you these. This is one of the reason Yorubas laugh at you people when you claim Oduduwa was Ekarlederan..

Interestingly, Oba Bini oriki/panegyric never claimed to Ogiso but Yoruba's praise names. Does this not make mockery of you people ?

Here are the praise names of Oba Bini with Yoruba colouration :

Appellation of Oba Bini.
1. Ovbi Umogun Oza : The child of Oba whose mother hailed from ola

2. Ovbi Ekpen N'owa: The son of leopard.

3. Ovbi Adimila: The son of Adimila

4. Ékèji Orisa :Second in commands to the gods
5.Agbaghe N'ovbi Olokun: The son of Olokun ,who is the cynosure of all mortals

6. Abieyuwa N'ovbi Odua N'uhe: The son of the wealthy odua of Uhe

7. Ovbi Ada,Ovbi Eben: The child of the owner of the Ada ( scimitar ) and Eben ( royal sword ) as symbol of sovereignty of Edo

8.Ovbi Ekenekene ma doyo: The son of beauty who never fades

9. Ovbi Ekuaho N'olo Ovbi Ekuaho N'olo: The son of the rocky army, the brave and the powerful

10. Ovbi Ikpinhianbo: kpuru no Gb'oduma:The son of the short fingered man that was still able to kill a lion.

11. Nohien utete no ghughe s'omwan : The king on the hill who sees more than everyone.

12. Ovbi Ogbonwan nei bun Aro:The son of the fearless, who looks without twinkling of his eyes

13. Ovbi ode ode N'ohan ren mu ete: The son of the warrior whose enemies got frightened at the announcement of his approach

14 . Uku Akpolokpolo : The mighty one that rules; the biggest stone

15. Ovbi Adolo no dolo uwa dolo Utomwen : The son of the wise judge and peace maker who combines wisdom and wealth with long life.

16. Ovbi Oven owie no gbaisi: The son of the morning sun that covers everywhere

17. Ovbi Akpogunla, Ogie no y'igho b'owa : The child of the womb of Akpogunla- The warrior who fought big wars and built house of cowries.

18. Oba N'osa = king that is god

19. Ovbi Otolo N'olomi Ologberonwon nei rie iruen ebo ayemwinre eminiminimini : The son of the water controller, the son of beauty itself, the starter of things, and the person whose reign saw people with many tongues

20. Enoniyagbon:the lord of the earth

21. Agbagbe Lo Gi'Olukun: The offspring of Olokun that we want to see

22. Elimidu :The Oro whip

23. Ogie No Gboma Adenuwuighoma : slayer of men who do not die.

24.Adimila O sakeji :second to god(Adimula igbakeji Orisa)

Sit up and accept Yoruba colonisation of Igodomigodo. As simple as at

Olu317:
Oduduwa was already dead when Igodomigodo had opportunity to beg ileife to help resolve the problem of chaos.

Obalufon 1 alias "Ogbogbodirin" was on the throne during 1100s before Oranmiyan used Usen as a launch pad to establish Yoruba dynasty of Oduduwa in 1170 AD to form Oba dynasty in Igodomigodo turned in to Binu . So, stop making false claims

Funny set of ifatẹ́ẹ́rù tí ṣé ọmọ igodo

Christistruth03:
Let us look at the praise names of oba of Benin

One of it is

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

(Odua of Ife is the same as Oduduwa of Ife)



Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila


Oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title


So with your own mouth you have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed your case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of Benin was indeed Oduduwa's Son

There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Ologbo147:
Umuazee stop giving that inconsequential slowpoke popularity Stop giving the uneducated clown that could not spell inconsequential before now if not that i corrected him fame. Which tribe in Yoruba today can boldly say they are bigger than Bini today aside Oyo? Bini is solidly three million and beyond, if not for the unity the Europeans gave them, would there be a Yoruba today?

ASAPFERG:
you are tiny and inconsequential to me

ASAPFERG:
i don't like edo people..

I don't want to talk to edo person . Is it by force?

tonicyril:
Why bro

I am a yoruba but living in Edo, and I can definitely affirm it that binis and yoruba are almost same thing bro

Akaegwu:
KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UK, GREAT BRITAIN, BRITAIN, ENGLAND

A lot of people in Nigeria and indeed all over the world, including well travelled, elite class people often confuse England, United Kingdom, Britain and Great Britain. Well, here's the way to differentiate them:

*England* is a country just as Nigeria, and its capital is *London* just like Abuja is the capital of Nigeria.

*Great Britain* is a collection of 3 countries which came together as one country and has its capital as *London.* Those 3 countries are:

1. *England,*
2. *Scotland* and
3. *Wales.*

When you include *Northern Ireland* to these 3 countries, they become *United Kingdom* (union of four nations) Viz:
1. England,
2. Scotland,
3. Wales, and
4. Northern Ireland.

That is why it is referred to as the *United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.*
Collectively, the four are taken as one country. And when this is the case, *London* is its capital.

Note however that these four individual nations all have their own respective capitals.

Accordingly, the capital of
Scotland is *Edinburgh*,
Wales is *Cardiff*;
Northern Ireland is *Belfast*;
England is *London*.

Ps: Northern Ireland is not to be mistaken for the *Republic of Ireland*. The latter is a separate country. Its capital is *Dublin*.

Credits: Nojeem Jimoh

Akobe777:
Sorry if this question upsets some people, it is not my intention.

I have been researching where my parents come from and to be honest I'm not convinced of the general concensus is around the so called "Benin Empire"
It honestly feels like people are making it up or hiding the facts.

1) Benin comes from the name ile binu

2) this is a yoruba name/word

3) it was named by a yoruba royal whom the benin people asked to be their king? (wtf)

4)oba is a yoruba word

5) apparently yoruba was the language spoken in the palace until recently

6) yoruba bronzes stopped being made the time Benin bronzes started

7) there are numerous stories of various tribes running away from Benin - I'm going it assume it was due to human sacrifice and slavery. Some people even ended up in Ghana. (strange)

the head of the oba is taken to ile ife

I mean there's a lot more, but when I look at the facts plainly. It looks as is the "edo" people were conquered and this story of asking someone of ife to be their king is a cover up.

Its hard to imagine a people with their own language and traditions would seeks an outsider who would bring their own language to the thrown, put them of for human sacrifice, sell them into slavery so much that various tribes have stories of having to escape

How on earth is this normal?
I can't be the only person who thinks it's bs

TAO11:
You Binis just lie to yourselves as a coping mechanism. 😂

Evboesi:
Bro your written Edo is sound, to even think you are an Ekhue, I love

AreaFada2:
Ovbie Eweka n'okaro me khin. Rumwunda Ozolua n'iboromi Ero bie Ogie Ogho ne Edo n'ekue tiere Owo. Oba Esigie ero bie Ogie Ukpele, no vbe sike Owo.

Lamogun ma tue vbe owie. Ovbie Umogun. Ivbioba hia ke Egbe Eweka n'okaro gha de hia.

Ovbie Enogie Edo vbe khin. Eseserese Edo.

Eguae Enogie erha ima n'okhua ere Ina ka mien okoro Solomon Aiguobasimwin vbe ore re Edaiken. Okoro no ghi do rie Erediauwa vb'Edo.

AreaFada2:
Ovbie Eweka n'okaro me khin. Rumwunda Ozolua n'iboromi Ero bie Ogie Ogho ne Edo n'ekue tiere Owo. Oba Esigie ero bie Ogie Ukpele, no vbe sike Owo.

Lamogun ma tue vbe owie. Ovbie Umogun. Ivbioba hia ke Egbe Eweka n'okaro gha de hia.

Ovbie Enogie Edo vbe khin. Eseserese Edo.

Eguae Enogie erha ima n'okhua ere Ina ka mien okoro Solomon Aiguobasimwin vbe ore re Edaiken. Okoro no ghi do rie Erediauwa vb'Edo.