₦airaland Forum

LegendHer0:
Bro what Shariah are you taking about? Because of what someone without influence like Prof Akintola of MURIC said?

Even the Yoruba Muslims ourselves will be the ones to deny the shariah laws right from the mosque. It’s plain absurd for anyone to think the Yorubas will succumb to an archaic law where my hands will be cut off. (Olorun maje)

Let me educate you, islam got to Yoruba land as far back as the 16th century even before Christianity. Some of the Yoruba words are even Islamic such that even Christians among us use the words. If shariah law hasn’t been implemented all this centuries ago, then why now in this age and time?

Even Ilorin with its population of Yoruba Muslims do not have shariah law in effect why then will it be the core Southwest state where we have almost 50/50 adherents of both faith.

You used the MURIC excuse to propel your own bigotry and i’m ust lost for words that a Yoruba man will opine the Christians to swear allegiance to another ethnic group just because of religious differences.

The ability for Christians and Muslims to coexist without any animosity should be a thing of pride for the Yorubas. We have solved almost 90% of the problem the rest of the worlds were not able to solve.

In Yorubaland Muslims eat Christmas chicken while Christian eat Ileya Ram. That should be a thing of pride coz it should be Yoruba first before religion.

My brother, you have largely spoken well. Agba yin a dale. But me saying that Christians of Yoruba origin can & should seek refuge in the south south or south east in the event of Islamic aggression can hardly be construed to be swearing allegiance to other tribes. Necessity is the father of invention & self preservation is a time worn human principle. If there’s a Sharia onslaught on Yorubaland, I think it will only be normal for a Christian who has lived in freedom all his life to flee such environment—that doesn’t mean he has disconnected himself from his roots or sworn allegiance to another tribe.

I think you do not understand the impact of years of media portrayal of Islam as a violent religion. This islamophobic hysteria is further reinforced by the tendency of Muslims to force their way of life on others even when they are in the minority. Despite the liberal nature of Muslims in Yorubaland, you can never rule out the possibility of extremism because that is what Islam is built upon.

So my brother, if some of us fear Islam, it doesn’t mean we hate you. We are just always apprehensive of the next Muslim to be radicalized & unleashed on non Muslims.

I don’t have time to hate but I watch my environment & society with a keen eye.

Ademoore07:
Sorry about that. The other guy is the real biggot

Stop it. I do not owe you allegiance. So if I don’t support your point of view, I am a bigot, right?

Na you Sabi.

Gforce2019:
Show me one Muslim that contributed to the western education. They can only build on the structure that's already on the ground.
Your religion object to western education that's reason why we have Boko Haram in Nigeria. The sects against western education.

This is a painful truth.

We should move beyond this abeg. There’s no case in this complaint by the student.

Kokoebapluse:
What nonsense are you saying? Where in the law of Nigeria students should be out of the school for not attending church?

Wait do you think everyone is a fool? My brother use your head, that school need to be close down and turn to church or school one must be,

Lol. Funny, aggressive fundamentalist.

It is well with you.

GeneralPula:
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No one is asking you who you are!

If you like, be Alien!

You’re not a Yoruba, that’s all!

Wahala yin niyen oooo.

You can bury your head in the sand & call me Igbo if you want. As long as it makes you feel better, who am I to disturb your utopia?

abdulkayus:
What u wrote, does it sound sensible to your hearing?
U are just a bigot.
Go and research and see how Muslims philosophers contributed to the so called western education u are talking about.

Mr Abdulkayus, so because I said the student should go to a school steeped in Islamic jurisprudence & principles, I am a bigot abi?

No wahala.

philip0906:
Are you alright at all? What do you mean by Babcock, Crescent, Covenant and co did not open up about been a faith based school? Does that make any sense to you? Did you want them to come knock on your door telling you they are faith based schools? What other headsup or piece of information do you need to know that they are faith based schools?

In your senseless hypocrisy, you quickly admitted that Alhikima and co are faith based schools but feigned ignorance about the christian schools been faith based schools. You lots and senile, senseless and foolish hypocrisy, is the reason no SANE person takes you serious.

At least we are on the same side here. There is really no need for controversy as the student saw the rules & regulations before he enrolled. And to make things even simpler, he can withdraw from the school. I don’t know why there’s an outcry from our Muslim brothers.

Pataricatering:
If it was about Islam you most likely would be screaming Islamization !

You people will never be objective & face the real issues. What does Islamization or Christianization have to do with this? The school is a Christian school & a Muslim is trying to force his beliefs against the regulations of the school.


There’s no discrimination anywhere. We have Muslim schools everywhere & he can enrol there. Na wa ooo. What kind of wahala have Christians found themselves in Nigeria?

lenghtinny:
Crescent university too far sef....

Nasfat's fountain University dey Osogbo, he no go.

If you dey find secular university, go to a public university....

I don’t understand what the hullabaloo is about ooo.

It’s a very simple matter but bigots want to use it to further divide Nigerians. We have bigger problems than all these attempts to infiltrate our religion & way of life. Nigeria is a secular country & we can all practice religion & educate ourselves in line with the tenets of our respective religions without clashing.

Glare247:
Is adeleke university a faith based school? Are u alright ?

But you have been shown that it is faith based now. Why doubting again? A simple google will answer your question.

GeneralPula:
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There’s nothing like a Yoruba Christian or Yoruba Muslim!

It’s a useless and senseless word from the usual useless and senseless tribe in Nigeria!

I am not Igbo & I might just dislike Igbos more than you. Stay on the line & stop your silly straw man(if you know it means).

Kokoebapluse:
You must be one of omo ale, if not you won't say so and you re not a Yoruba I believe, a true Yoruba won't say so, iwo omo irankiran yii

Oga ade, what have I said wrong? Is it by force to do things together. The earth is big enough for all faiths to peacefully co-exist.

All these emotional blackmail that I am my Yoruba doesn’t address the issue on ground & I am not bothered. My sticking point is that we have been co-existing for a while & their has been no problem but you cannot sneak from the back & erode our secularity as a people. You have never called out Professor Akintola before for doing & saying things that alarm half the Yoruba population but you deem it fit to label people like FFK & people like me bigots & non Yoruba for daring to say both religion don’t have to do things together if that will deprive Christians of their way of life & freedom. Where do you come off questioning my yorubaness & labeling me an outcast?

Please next time you want to paint me with that brush of being a bigot, you would do well to look yourself in the mirror & see who the real bigot is.

GeneralPula:
He’s not a Yoruba! Don’t dull!

If you like believe, if you like don’t believe.

I have no obligation to prove anything to you.

LegendHer0:
Bro, do you in one of your mentions to me call for a fight between the Muslim and Christian Yorubas? Yes or No!

Bro, do you in one of your reply to my post opined that the Yoruba Christians should all migrate to the SE part of Nigeria and severe ties with the Yoruba Muslims? Yes or No!

If any of your answer is Yes to this question, you are a bigot and I won’t let you continue to be a source of division among Yorubas on this forum.

Waiting for your reply!

I have never said anything about Christians & Muslims fighting in Yorubaland. Why should I do that? I have told you countless times that my best friends are Muslims & I have been living with Muslims all my life.

With regards to Yoruba Christians moving further south, yes I made that comment in light of the recent aggression & fervor for Sharia by our Muslim brothers because I know that living in a Sharia zone is always hellish for any Christian. If & when Christians of Yoruba origin are under the yoke of killings & subjugation, what stops them from migrating to the south east or south south where they will be protected & allowed to live their lives? What we all want for Yorubaland is the enthronement of secularity which our forefathers bequeathed to us. The signs we see from our Muslim brothers is not encouraging & further reinforces our fear of that religion so we are all allowe to look for safety/refuge wherever that may be.

How all these makes me a bigot is what I don’t understand. Can’t you live & let live?

Patrioticman007:
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"Ignorance & Islamaphobia work hand in hand" G.I Jones. Shari'a Law only applies to Muslims not other faiths. Our Nigerian Christians are now turning to extremists with style, imagine forcing a poor kid to attend church, just because he has a quest for knowledge, what will Christians demand, if he wants wealth ?, I bet they will demand his life, just like the innocent unilag female student, was killed, cooked & eaten by a church.

The phobia is a justified one given the antecedents of the religion in question. I am a Christian but I fear Islam, I don’t hate the religion. I just fear it. There’s a difference.

As for the subject at hand, it’s a very simple issue of withdrawing & enrolling in a school that recognizes & protects your faith.

I don’t see the need for all these wahala with education & religion we have in Nigeria if not for the insistence of Muslims that they must attend Christian schools.

LegendHer0:
We the Muslims are still trying to tame the bigot Prof Akintola of MURIC and one person is here on Nairaland trying to become a Christian bigot again.

My mom is a Christian and dad a Muslim. Infact I’ve been to the church countless times so I don’t know why and how that guys wants to achieve the animosity he’s calling for among Yoruba divides.

Mr. Legend Hero, olorun oni kobayin lodun tuntun ooo, how can you justify your labeling me as a bigot?

What have I done wrong? Is it by force for Muslims to attend Christian schools? Or did I say Muslims should not have freedom of religion?

Please be careful about making unsubstantiated allegations against my person ooo.

chidiebere2020:
Missionaries were the one that brought Western education

U can't overlook d foundation

This is what Muslims don’t want to know. They want to gain the benefits without observing the obligations.

Things don’t work like that in real life.

Kokoebapluse:
What a rubbish is this?

When they want to register it was it called school or church? Don't you know different from school and church?

Later you Christian will be shouting Muslim don't tenorate, have you seen any Muslim school punish student for not attending mosque? Christian are evil and everybody know that.

Well I don't blame them, I blame Muslim who associate themselves with Christian

Yes, Muslims can stay away from Christians if they want. The Christians are not begging to associate with Muslims. We can stand by ourselves. Live & let live bro. No wahala.

abdulkayus:
There are lot of Christians in Muslim universities like Alhikma University and AlQalam University. I know some that attend them

I don’t know any Christian that goes to a Muslim school & I wouldn’t do that to my children. The fear of that religion will not make me do that. It’s nothing personal, just phobia.

nelsonoba:
Ban them? Did government provide them any funding like state or federal universities get? Did they build the universities with government money? Did they not state their religious affiliations when they were applying for license from NUC and did they not inform all students at the point of accepting admission? So what exactly do you think you're saying??

Don’t mind them. They want Government to scrap Christian Universities because their own Islamic schools have failed to gain traction. Muslims cannot give what they don’t have. Western civilization is not for Muslims but they keep fighting to drag the rest of mankind backward.

Kokoebapluse:
Kosija tele but what am trying to let you Christian know is that we Yoruba Muslim can't hurt you because you are a Christian, we don't reject you, where in Yoruba land you see a Muslim school suspense student because he didn't attend mosque? But you Christian want to start that in Yoruba land, everybody have his opinion over religion, that place is called school not a church, even if it's call Christian school there should be a law tenorate none Christian in that school. Bro let reason this stuff if Yoruba Christian bring all this shit it won't end well with them oo. Yoruba Muslim don't hurt anybody we love everybody. Pls Christian should be careful

Is this threat? Oya do your worst?

The school has been proclaimed a Christian school but Muslims want to stay there but disobey the rules & regulations. Where is that done?

You are not being objective at all as Yoruba Christians have never deprived our Muslim brothers of anything. Rather, it is Muslims who have adopted an aggressive posture on major societal issues. Why can’t Muslims be peaceful?

It is extremely tiresome having to deal with Muslim wahala all over th the world—extremely tiresome indeed.

lereinter:
Muslim students and their guardian should choose islamic University only or public university

A Christian that goes to a muslim University school should be ready to follow their rules

It’s a simple matter. The problem is that Muslims want to enjoy the benefits of Judeo-Christian education while not willing to accept its rules & regulations. Things don’t work that way. You can’t force yourself into a place where you’re not wanted.

LegendHer0:
Why did they had to admit him to the university in the first place considering he was a Muslim.

Also why did they not indicate clearly on their website that they are a Christian owned institution? They come out like a secular university with ties to the seven-day Adventist church (later included online).

You are a Christian bigot, you all need to be kept in check just like we are trying to do for Prof Akintola of MURIC.

You guys do not uphold the religious tolerance ideal of the Yorubas that our ancestors have preserved.

So because I want Muslims to go to their schools & avoid causing problems for Christians, I am s bigot?

You’re simply playing taqiyya with me & I am up to your tricks. I want all Christians & Muslims to maintain their lane & not clash in Yorubaland.

The clashes are getting too much & our muslin brothers are always the aggressors.

Ademoore07:
I think it is absurd to suspend him. Im a christian too. Is my attendance at the chapel part of my academic grade? Saturdays should be a moment of rest. The university should be sued. If at the end of the day pardoned, local man should just work his transfer to any university of his choice.

You’re not a Christian. You’re lying.

Christian schools should please stop accepting Muslim students henceforth because they will end up causing trouble. They do this every time.

We have enough Christians eager for education to fill all student quotas.

This wahala is too much.

smailon:
It will be wise then, if they don't accept muslim prospects rather forcing their faith on them.

I can bet that they warned the young man but he deceived the school that he will abide by the rules & regulations of the school.

This is a very simple issue. Muslim students who are not comfortable with Christianity should stop attending Christian schools & enrol in the many islamic universities we have in Nigeria.

Kokoebapluse:


Truly we re one in this country and we have religion telorance walai, but world is keeping quite over this nonsense from Christian? Muslim also have school and I have never hear or seen where Muslim force Christian to go to mosque in those schools, education is for all children here in Nigeria according to the law, but why school have to suspended a student from school because of religion are they the same? I think government should involve in this matter, was the school not build on government land that belongs to all of us? That building is it school or church?

But latter Christian will come here and shouting Muslim force religion on people but yet no muslim ever force any student to go mosque

I don't want to talk, am Yoruba Muslim we are the cool and calm that is why all this happened. Yoruba Christian pls let leave in peace and harmony that we live before, don't let us reject or build hate between ourselves, let school be school and church be church, pls

I am Yoruba & Christian too but I don’t see any injustice done to the young man. What I see is a Muslim attempt to force their religion on Christian schools. Bros, do you know cresecent university, Sapon in Ogun State?

If yes, please enrol your Muslim wards there. Kosija ninu oro yi rara...

Moniya4Real:
See comments. Well everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.
As far as my personal opinion is concerned, there is hardly any private universities that was not built from the proceeds of corruption.

That’s another argument all together. Don’t conflate issues abeg.

LegendHer0:
Is it’s stated on the school website that it is a Christian university?

Go on the website now and read their mission and core values. There is not a place where they made mention that it is a Christian school.

While I am yet to confirm that, I will state that now that the student knows that it’s a Christian school, it behooves on him to abide with the school regulations or kindly withdraw & enrol in a Muslim school.

What about that for a proposition?

Legendher0, I am waiting for you oo.

What is wrong in Muslim students enrolling in crescent university & leaving Christian schools alone.

You know I complained to you earlier about Muslim aggression in Yorubaland & you allayed my fears but you’re now showing your true color in this thread.

I need your response.

LegendHer0:
You are saying rubbish.

Sir, what is rubbish in what I said?

So Muslims must attend Christian schools?

Is it by force?

dominique:
The school should have revealed that they're a strict faith based institution before admitting students. Their ads only showed that their aim was to build an affordable private university for the middle class. We assumed it was another ABUAD or Lead City uni with cheaper fees. No part did they say it was faith based only for them to start forcing their beliefs on students after collecting fees. A lot of students would have withdrawn if inter-university transfer was possible amongst private schools.

What are you saying? Please always strive to be objective in your comment. The school will not be forced to bend to the whims of a non conformist student.

He should be expelled & his money possibly refunded so he can enrol in crescent university which is also on the SW. We have enough schools in Nigeria to cater for all faiths.