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eldeens:
This is a hate speech, with cheap data you will cause trouble for yourself just because of your hatred, be guided

Can the authorities trace the IP of all members of NL & if they can, is it really worth it?

I am just asking ni oo

onadana:
Age does not matter,understanding does.My late wife was 4years older than I,it was never an issue.People only got to know when they saw her age in her Obituary.Understanding and communication is key to everything.

OMG, sorry for the loss. If I may ask, what caused her death?

LegendHer0:
Alright I got you. But you should know our opinions online one way or the other is capable of inciting hatred among us.

For example, you blamed the Yoruba Muslims for voting Buhari which is plain wrong and you yourself already went against your earlier stance.

It’s good that you’re speaking up for what you believed in and I’m sure you have a justification for your fears. If not because of the atrocities committed by the Muslim north and some Arab countries, you wouldn’t be talking like this.

However my assertions is that you shouldn’t judge your fellow SW Muslims with the mirror of a Fulani or Arab man. Sometimes religion is a symptoms in the decay of morality among ethnic group. They just hide under religion to give their wickedness legitimacy.

I wholely accept your submissions here & adopt them as mine.

Nice one.

LegendHer0:
Agreed bro. Thanks and have a nice day.

You too. Safe.

Na wa oooo. This is strange. Attacking a train? To what end?

Alanpoza007:
Al-Hikmah University in Ilorin is also another Muslim University. He and his parents can't say they don't know about these schools. Even though I'm not a Muslim, I went to a Muslim nursery school as a kid in Satellite Town, Lagos-Toyeebat Nur/Pry School. Had to follow all their rules including learning Arabic and compulsory Jumaat prayers on Fridays, till I left the school..Btw I honestly used to think before now that Adeleke University is a secular University, although I know their proprietor, Davido's dad, is a devout Seventh Day Adventist member.

It’s well. I am sure the issue will be resolved amicably & the student will decide the next step he wants to take in conjunction with the school authorities.

LegendHer0:
Those Benue issh is more of ethnic clashes and it predates Buhari regime.

Infact during 2012 or so when Jonathan was the president, the Fulani clashes was more pronounced then and it will be absurd to attribute the origin to buhari alone.

You should know the north have a history of clashes they even predates the fourth republic. Why they chose to be like that is a mystery and many people argued it was because of Islamization. Well Na then know.

My own is just that nobody should bring the north craze to the SW either Muslim or Christians coz we shouldn’t be judged by what a Fulani did in Kano as Yorubas in the SW.

That is my argument

It is well. Do you know why I like our arguments? It’s because we disagree to agree & still end up on the same page of wanting what is best for Yorubaland without descending to insults or fisticuffs.

That’s how me & my best friends (two of them Muslim) argue about interfaith relations in Yorubaland without engendering any enmity or illwill—because we all want what’s best for the motherland.

LegendHer0:
I tire. The Yoruba region where we have 5 out of the 6 governors as Christians is where he’s bringing religious politics to.

One would but wonder who voted the 5 SW Christian governors if not the Muslims.

I don’t like the way you’re talking at all. You’re trying to make it seem like I represent the whole Christians in the SW. There’s largely religious harmony in Yorubaland & nothing except an occurrence of immense impact can change that for a long time. Just the way majority of Muslims in Yorubaland are not like prof. akintola is the same way most Christians don’t think like me. We are one people & we would stay that way as long as we protect our secularity & unity.

jhubril:
ABU ZARIA HAS THE BIGGEST CHAPEL IN THE SUB SAHARA AND CHRISTIAN STUDENTS WORSHIP THERE WITHOUT FEAR OR INTIMIDATION. IS THIS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT?

What exactly is the problem of these CHRISTIAN FANATICS? Where exactly is their paranoid leading them? Islam gives them sleepless nights and at the slightest opportunity they play THE VICTIM of this ,the victim of that.

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world ; It is predicted that the UK in 20 years will be home to the European Muslims in their majority. The hate ,the jealousy,the anger is felt everywhere including Nigeria where the hullabaloo of Islamization is hurting them .

ABU ZARIA is a Government/ secular school, right?

You have falsely compared both scenarios. If you look through most of the comments, you will see all the answers to your question.

LegendHer0:
Oh when you knew all this that there ain’t any religious divide in the SW why did you mentioned it in the first place regarding Buhari.

Also let me take you on, how exactly has Buhari islamize Nigeria? What is different in way we practice religion in the South between 1999 and now?

What most of you term as Islamization is Northernization. Buhari is an ethnic crusader rather than Islamic. Although they can go hand in hand because the Northerners are majorly Muslims which explained why most of you are mistaking it for Islamization.

Christians in the south are starting to be paranoid too much and most of you guys are alarmists.

It’s true. We might look & sound alarmist at times but it’s due to fear. We pray that Buhari’s 3 years passes without further incidence. In any event, if he wants to go all out against Christians like they did in Benue State & the middlebelt, it won’t be possible because the attention of the whole world is no him already so it will be hard to actually any bad plans he has for the country.

All is well with Nigeria.

Nice.

sassysure:
I qouted you again.

U see this life, it's always good not to let our past rule our present.

For every story we read here, no matter how bad the @op want to paint the other party to garner sympathy and justification, there is this little part of the person that want solution for the problem hence sharing the problem in the first place.
If we( the assumed court of justice)have this in mind, we rather proffer solution instead of castigation.
Not all men are monsters neither all women.
Most time when I log in here, the kind of hatred I see towards the women folk is alarming yet Nigeria is the way it is because of men.
Think about it.
Is there something u guys are not doing right?
Is it the orientation?

Lots of families today are put together by the wives. And u will never hear anything. They still cover up for their men.

Look at how u were attacking a female moniker because she aired her view.
Tomorrow if something happen, I hope u will be happy.
I called you out on that and u even attacked me.

U are a very rude guy and a bully. U bully because u have insecurities u don't want to deal with.
Free yourself and get help, then enjoy this fukking life cos u live once.
Why fill it up with unnecessary hatred and inconsequential power pursuit that end up destroying instead of building?
If people didn't meet up to your expectations in the past, forgive them and move on, that way u will be free and enjoy the best this life will give you.
Free mind open way for lots of success.
I am advising you as one who have seen this world and the shits inside it more than you.
This is a new year.
If anytime u feel like lashing out, pick on the politicians and tear them apart

Also to some of u that are projecting one useless ideology or the other here,
Go and get busy with life. Time waits for no one especially you singles and boys in particular. Some of u eat and breath nairaland. Unless u are an internet fraudster, I don't see why u should be online all the time.
Nobody cares about what happened in your life. Sort it out and move forward. That a woman or man disappointed you doesn't mean u should ruin other people's joy when they have problem. If u don't want to be happy, please allow others, they want it.

I feel it’s rather unfair for you to pick me for castigation our of the many men that made comments in this thread. I have realized my misdeed for going personal on funministiqueen, apologized & she has accepted my apology.

Also, immediately the OP’s alleged wife gave a rebuttal to his story, I was among the first set of people to advice her to settle the matter in house even though there’s no record of me ever insulting the OP’s wife in the whole gamut of my comments on this thread. You can check it. I only concentrated on funministiqueen’s comments which angered everybody & I pounded her to my satisfaction. That’s water under the bridge now & we have made peace.

On the other things you said, I have heard you.

It’s well.

Fourwinds:
you need to apply the Red army approach...

Red army approach to his marriage? Nooooooo, we are talking about his wife & family here & not boyfriend & girlfriend relationship.

He needs to work & pray hard while maintaining his role as a loving husband & father.

No red pills here, please.

Kokoebapluse:
You too hear yourself pls just listening to yourself pls?

Muslim are not trouble maker Muslim love rule and right things, muslim can't fight private school for not giving Muslim admission, only where we can protest Is government schools dine Muslim admission we will talk.

It is well bro.

ItooWorWor:
That guy is out of his mind for bringing politics here, and am beginning to suspect he is not yoruba.

Your business oooo.

LegendHer0:
@the bolded, I’ve told you in another thread that the redeemed Christian church is the major support Buhari had in 2015 and Adeboye openly supported Buhari.

Does that make Adeboye a Muslim ? Or are the redeemed guys now muslims?

So in your assertions, you mean those Christian that voted for Atiku against Buhari are doing so because Atiku is a Christian?

Oyo state have majority Muslim populations and they voted against Buhari in 2019, does that mean the Christians alone voted against him?

The more you talk, the more I doubt your yorubaness.

I have told you earlier that there’s nothing I can do about you doubting my yorubaness.

I guess to you & people think reason like you, Femi fani Kayode, & Ayo Fayose are not Yorubas.

We cannot all sleep and face the same direction now. I analyze politics in Nigeria & Yorubaland through personal lenses so you don’t need to be surprised if I don’t analyze things from your own point of view.

On the issue of the people of ibadan, they are a testament to the fact that Yorubaland is still very united & remains one irrespective of any religious differences.

Tinubu is a Muslim but he’s my leader as a Yoruba man. We don’t have any other leader for now so all these your doubts are unfounded. On the RCCG, I can tell you that they are gnashing their teeth in private now seeing how Prof. Osinbajo has been demystified by tht cabal. Nobody is happy with the current state of things. We all thought that being a man of God, Osinbajo will act as a check on Buhari’s islamofascist tendencies but we have been proved wrong. It’s just too late to complain when the head is off.

On the whole, we are still the yoruba race our forefathers bequeathed to us & we have to guard our unity jealously from the craziness of Nigeria.

LegendHer0:
God bless you.
When I was young, my dad always force us to perform solat (Irun). He will wake us up as early as 5:30am everyday and rather than we performing the solat willingly, that action made us hate solat more coz to us he is trying to force us against our will.

When he knew that action is not working he left us to our fate and told us we will start doing solat 5times daily on our own when we know it’s benefit ourselves.

Now no one tells me when to do solat coz it’s now part of me. I started praying daily on my own accord. Same can be said for my brothers. I only stopped doing solat that much when I traveled out coz the nature of work is not encouraging and mosque is very far from where I live.

The moral of the story is that you can’t force a human being against his will and expect true submission.

Yes, it’s true. You cannot force anybody against his will to practice any faith—but that’s in a secular institution, not a faith based one.

LegendHer0:
@the first bolded, Can you give an example of where the Muslim yorubas support the north when they killed our leaders? I’m willing to learn.

@the second bolded, you are gradually becoming like MURIC and Aregbesola in your thinking and the only differences between both of you is that you’re still not popular across Nigeria or held any political post.

If MURIC calls on Muslims today that all Yoruba Muslims should severe ties with the Christians and move to live in the North, what will be your reaction?

Also note that the Yorubas have always been christainised right from the onset just that we muslims are not alarmists. Let me give just 3 cases.

I attended a private secular primary school owned by a a Muslim proprietress and our morning assembly songs are always Christian songs. Infact that is the standard for most secular primaries schools even government owned school where we sing Christian songs on assembly ground except fridays.

In my secondary school, the same thing happened and they don’t care whether you’re Christian or Muslim before we sing from our SOP (song of praise) book. No parent care about that since we don’t reek in bigotry.

In my university days as an undergrad, the jehovah witness guys always knock on my door and preach Christianity to me, even if you tell them you are Muslims they don’t care. They will always try to preach and change your ideology. If Muslims have been knocking Christians doors the whole media space would have been shouting shariah shariah.

Some Christians in the SW are starting to behave like bigots and I think we should all thread with caution coz if we destroy the peace among us now, our ancestors and upcoming generations will never forgive us.

That’s my own

Majority Muslims in Yorubaland support Buhari inspite of his tyranny.That’s enough evidence.

On the issue of MURIC giving an order for severance of ties with Christians & moving to the north, I can tell you personally that it won’t be so detrimental to Christians but it may be jarring to them. The practicality of it is suspect though.

As for Jehovah’ witnesses & Christians that preach about, I support you to be harsh on them because even we Christians don’t like how meddlesome they are but we can’t assault them due to that.

About my steady radicalization, it’s borne out of the need for survival amid encroaching Islamic occupation all around the world. Don’t you wonder why right wing parties & politicians are winning in the West— i.e Boris Johnson, Donald Trump, Viktor Orban etc? It’s the fear of Islamic terrorists.

As for preserving our unity in Yorubaland, it is the duty of all to ensure & uphold our secularity. No religion should seek to undermine the Constitution of Nigeria through the inclusion of Sharia law etc.Same goes for any charter/binding document we have in Yorubaland.

We need to act as checks to any usurpation by one religion of another.

DavidEsq:
This what happens when u join secular activities with religious activities. Jesus Christ said we should we should preach to ppl and baptize them in order for them to be saved. That is the only standard. Nothing less or more. What this school is doing is forcing their religious preference down the students' throats, thereby causing them to have a terrible impression of the gospel of the good news and to also close their hearts to it, whether now or in the future.

I think you got it wrong. Faith based schools the world over operated based on certain strict rules & regulations.

The same cannot be said of public schools that are secular in their funding & enabling statutes.

Malcolm123:
Asin I don memorize the guy moniker on top hatred from Muslims ....I dey try explain thing to him ....personal interest govern the world not religion ...y is russia defending Syria and Iran .....y is USA and Saudi friends...y is France and Qatar Ally ...all na interest .....buh my guy thing say everything for world na Muslim vs Christian

Well, I guess that’s my islamophobia screaming through.

I am not the only one with that ailment. Billions of people in the world have that ailment too but they might not want to voice it or show it.

You can’t blame us for the fear & suspicion. We see acts that reinforces our fear everyday. Even this case at hand further reinforces that fear.

It’s nothing personal bro.

Malcolm123:
Wat I just want to tell u is judge/relate with ppl individually ....trying to carry hatred for billions of ppl or shouting wars up and down (because some ppl no practice your religion ) is not way to go

I am not shouting wars or carrying hate around for billons of people.

But I admit I am carrying fear/phobia for the religion. It is not the same thing with hate sir.

fraymite:
I am a Muslim, but I will rather ask Toheeb and other Muslims to quit this Adeleke University and go for a good Muslim private universities. Why are Muslims like going to Christian schools when there are good Muslim schools of equal standards? I sense that parents of Toheeb and others like this don't practice Islam every seconds. If they do they will not allow their wards to attend even a small tainted Christianity school talk less of strong ones. Parents should not be a Muslim by mere name, they should be a strong believer and this will let them have rethink of any plan they have for their children.

Meanwhile those abusing Toheeb I hope you will be able to use the same strength in abusing future john if he is found in any Muslim settings. I mean you will not call it tribalism or intolerance.

For being an objective Muslim, may Almighty Allah bless you.

This is exactly what we have been telling our Muslim brothers.

This is a very simple matter. No need for all the fight & insults at all.

Kokoebapluse:
Does school know that he was a Muslim? And they collect school fees from him?

then the boy have right not to go to church because he pay for education only not church.

Or you want to tell me that during school registration the boy did not tell school management that he was a Muslim? Why they don't dine him admissions? Or what do they think before?

Sir, I have addressed this in an earlier post. You’d do well to check it out. Maybe next time the university should state clearly that it doesn’t admit Muslims—that’s if you don’t turn around & scream blue murder again.

Kokoebapluse:
Does school management know that am a Muslim or not? During school registration did I told them am a Muslim or not? Why they don't reject since registration till I start lecture that the school is for Christian only? Why they collect school fees from me since they know am a Muslim and they don't need Muslim in that school?

Before you enter school you have personal data record and fille that school will record about you, or are you trying to say the boy did not do registration in that school or his religion did not show on jamb before school give him admission?

Then why they want the boy to go church by force since they know is a Muslim and they accept him into school. Why must he attended the church

I guess the school didn’t want to be discriminatory in their admission criteria. I am sure that if it is clearly stated that muslims are prohibited from attending the school, the Muslims in the country will cry blue murder & threaten to burn the school down.

Now, what I feel happened was that the student was shown the rules & regulations of the school & he accepted to abide by them but now turn midway to say he’s a Muslim & can no longer attend church services. This is an egregious breach of the agreement he signed when he wanted to enrol into the school & even the law courts cannot construe the agreement otherwise. He signed up to attend church services as a student of Adeleke University & he shouldn’t resile from that agreement midway.

The solution now is either for him to accept to abide by the rules of for him to withdraw his admission to the school.

There’s no controversy in this case at all at all.

LegendHer0:
Uninspired07 needs our help as Yorubas. We shouldn’t scold him too much but try to let him see the religious bigotry is his words and actions.

I’m sure he will make use of one or two words from what we have said today to shape his thinking and he will always remember omoluabi supersedes religious divide.

If he travels out (he might be based abroad too), he will understand that his first point of contact will be the Yorubas either Christian or Muslims. Those guys from other ethnicity he’s trying to form familiarity with just because they are Christians will tell him they see Yorubas as one and that is when his eyes will clear to the reality of life.

OMG, you don’t understand me at all ooo. I know you’re referring to the Igbos but you might not know that I feel the same way you feel about them. We are all the same to the Igbos, whether Muslim or Christian—they feel we are betrayers who collude with the Hausas to kill & subjugate then. I know how they feel & I understand.

As for whether I want to align with them, I ask you:why do you think it’s wrong for Christians of Yoruba origin to feel safe & at times align with them while it is right for our Muslim brothers to align & always support the Muslim north even if the Hausas kill our leaders every time & destroy the objectives of the south for a better Nigeria? You see that there’s double standards there?

As for whether I am a traitor to the Yoruba cause, there’s nothing further from the truth because I love my tribe more than anything else & I would like to come back to life as a Yoruba man if I have that opportunity. What we need to do as a race/people is to uphold our secularity & allow everyone practice his faith with freedom. That is what has taken us this far & if we allow extremists to permeate our unity, we may never survive the repercussions. As corrupt as Tinubu is, what you cannot accuse him of is being a bigot. The man doesn’t care about your religion as long as you’re a Yoruba man & that is what a true leader should be made of. But you see people like Aregbesola & prof Akintola should be ignored & left at the fringes of our society because they are the agents of division that millions of Christians secretly fear.

Kosi wahala my brother.

Kokoebapluse:
Aggressive? Ahhh, nah warn I dey warn you am not angry, but just for you to reason,

Reason that what? Are we not reasoning?

What did the university do wrong? And now that the student had found out that the university is a Christian University with rules & regulations, what should the student do?

I want you to answer the question honestly.

Malcolm123:
This guy the hatred wey dey inside u ..I pray u live long o....lol....I guess a Muslim must have kill your family member to have so much hatred

You see what I am talking about?

I won’t even try to explain myself further because you will all see it as hate. Fear is different from hate. I hope you sit down & ruminate on the difference.

LegendHer0:
I understand what you’re saying and you are somehow right in your assertions. You’re just trying to protect your religion in the advent of radicalism.

However most of you don’t understand how things work. If the Yoruba Muslims have said in their majority that they want a shariah law, do you think the Christians can oppose it? Do you think if the likes of the Tinubus, Fashola’s, Ajimobis, Aregbesolas, the imams, all muslims in Yorubaland, etc want a shariah law, you think you can stop it without calling for chaos?

Also look at it like this, even the Tinubus, Ajimobis, and a host of others have Christian wives and that should tell you that religious fanaticism is not something that can prosper in Yorubaland.

Remeber shariah law is always strictly for the Muslims, which means if the Muslims had wanted it in their majority they can find a loophole in the law to create some form of Islamic court among their faithfuls even in the SW. The Adeleke university just did thesame thing, establish a university and make it compulsory for any religious divide to attend church and they call it university law. Isn’t that what all of you are celebrating now??

However It’s good to know that we SW Muslims ourselves deny shariah in any form in our majority. Even inside the mosque we will not condone the mention or passing of any shariah nonesense. That should be restricted to the north where they allow all sort of barbaric religious nonesense all because of upholding one Saudi archaic law. Even Saudi is modifying its laws.

I have heard you but on this case, I don’t think you were fair. You should have counseled the student to either abide by the rules & regulations of the faith based university or withdraw.

And like I said earlier, these Christians will do well to reject Muslim students all together because enrolling them will always cause trouble.

There’s really no wahala here, just a misunderstanding.

Kokoebapluse:
If you re not omo ale, you want say such rubbish. Yoruba said (tilebatoro omo aleibe niotidagba,). I have nothing to say that we Yoruba Muslim still love our Yoruba brother if you like leave Nigeria and go to isreal or US because you are a Christian, what am I even saying, isreal won't accept you because isreal Is not a Christian country, US won't send you because US is not a Christian country and hate for black won't allow them,

So, mabaleje nitori ilelabosinmin Oko

With all the insults in response to my carefully worded comments,have you presented yourself an an omoluabi?

You’ve just proved me right that you’re aggressive & I have to be observant & careful.

God bless you.

RunThins:
NUC needs to commence immediate investigation and if this is true, they should withdraw this school's license! Things these overzealous lots do in the name of religion in that country is just mind numbing. As for Mr Toheeb, please look for a lawyer and sue the school for violating your rights. And, if they argue that it's part of the school rules, then add NUC and the Ministry of Education including the Minister to the lawsuit! #effingbananarepublic!

SMH. If we expose the motivation for this your comment now, Muslims will quickly label me a bigot.

Go & withdraw the license of the school.

abdulkayus:
I personally know of Christian students in Alhikma and AlQalam University. There are Christians in Islamic universities. Get that into your thick skull

Mr. Abdulkayus, since you insist that Christians go to Muslim schools despite many corroborative assertions to the contrary, what do you want Adeleke University to do on this issue?

Kokoebapluse:
No just correct me if am wrong? The place is called school not a church. There are many Islamic school in the world they have Christian students but I never see where they will punish Christian student for not attending the mosque, bro you too think about it?

Bro, on the issue of whether Christians are marginalized in Muslim schools, there’s no way to verify that as not many Christians attend Muslim schools.

As for the issue at hand, I want to ask you a question & it will determine where the problem is coming from: if you were the Muslim student & you mistakenly enrolled in a Christian & now realized that you might not be so free to disobey the rules & regulations of attending Christian fellowship, what will be your next action to remedy the whole issue?

Please answer my question with the utmost honesty.