₦airaland Forum

DesChyko: Well, God allowed Satan to make it shine, if Satan really was the person who made it shine.
At the end, his supremacy counted.

macof: Yahweh, the god of Israel who in Semitic spirituality is the spirit of mountains and hills(if you doubt, challenge me to this)

Ogun, the spirit of all metallic elements particularly Iron. In yorubaland, Ire-Ekiti, Saki Oyo and Idanre are his patron cities.

Here we would see how the Bible records a battle between these two spirits

Judges 1:19 - And the Lord was with Judah, and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had chariots of Iron

There's two things in this verse
1. Yahweh's strength lays in the mountain
2. Judah with the grace of Yahweh couldn't defeat an army with the grace of iron(Ogun)

stevecantrell: I will categorically tell you US government scientists have tested it on ebola and found it effective against the virus. This test and results were not made public.

Why?

Because the mainstay of big pharma is its antibiotics and antiviral brands. You cannot patent a relatively cheap resource like silver, therefore you cannot make mega profits.

The weak Nigerian government has folded and agreed that it is a pesticide. But if GEJ got ebola tomorrow he would definitely use nano silver.
Nigeria is held hostage, by foreign govts. Nano silver or no nano silver, the anti-gay laws will soon be reversed too. Sad isn't it ?

i think it just makes us not to think and be unreasonable

For instance, i remember in undergrad in naija and during exam periods when we had to say prayer petitions in fellowships for exam. We had prayer points like 'praying against the spirit/demons of missing paper', 'praying that NEPA should give us light during the exam....' and bla bla bla... When i reflect i ask myself, 'What the phuckk was/is wrong with me/us. How is there a spirit of missing paper when my name was obviously on the attendance sheets( all 3 of them sometimes) and the lecturer carelessly misplaced my script. If it was a saner clime that shitt wouldnt happen or the lecturer would be fired but instead of challenging the system we term it 'a demon' and pray more so it wont repeat itself'.

On one of my nairaland threads i wrote about getting on a bus from phct to enugu in the night few years ago..The roads were freaking bad and the driver had to usually move from his lane to the other lane with incoming traffic just so he could avoid bad portholes which were more like death traps... THe roads were poorly illuminated..There was a pastor on the bus who stood up to pray and told everyone to pray against the spirit of blood sucking demons/witches/wizards on the road that cause accidents on the road...After a while i couldnt take it any longer and told him to shut the phuckk up and to stop using religion to blackmail people as thatz what we suffer in Nigeria...He reacted along with the passengers and accused me of been possessed. I told him further to shut it.A blind man knows that these roads are bad and are death traps and ur driver has to move from one lane to another to avoid portholes popping up everywhere..Why wouldnt there be accidents?Why wouldnt there be loss of lives?I told the pastor that no one was flying in the air trying to cause accidents...I further asked him 'why the demons and witches in naija seem to be more hyperactive than in more developed countries? Why are they hiding in corners or in the air? I told him that The demons are the contractors who did a bad job alongside the minister who commissioned that road. God has shown them to you in physical form..Lynch them and accidents will reduce by other contractors taking a cue. You hear things like the spirit of 'mber month.Why wouldnt there be accidents in 'mber months when the bad roads have much more traffic than usual as that is the time easterners travel.Why the hell cant we reason some of this things? I tire sometimes.
The first time i got here and i wanted to embark on a journey via bus, i usually say my rosary as per naija levels . After a few months it began to look crazy to me cos 'there wasnt anyone trying to make us have accidents or needing the blood of accident victims'. How many times have i gotten on a road from 1 part of the UK to another and just slept off knowing that there are no spirits here. THis is because the system is working and the roads are safe. THe contractors who do the roads i ply on are most probably unbelievers but the fear of the law and not fear of Jah/Allah make them do very good jobs. If u place ur car and travel on the road and have an accident due to bad portholes, do u know that u have the right to sue the government here? You will see lawyers coming to beg you to take up your case.

I remember stories of people who imported cars from overseas through dealership with motor companies, drive to their village to show off and on their way back have accidents as the 'village people were not happy with them'. I was discussing with a chinese friend studying mechanical designs and he mentioned stuff on recalling of cars due to factory issues and which i tried to look up. I will copy paste links on it here. i tried doing a little research on Car recall and what i read astonished me. Do u know that thousands and millions of cars have been recalled due to power steering failure, faulty brake pads etc.by top car manufacturers. Do u know that this year alone toyota recalled 6.4 million cars? Do u know that Toyoya paid 1billiondollars in compensation in 2012 involving unintended acceleration problems in its vehicles.?

From this site, http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2012/12/26/toyotas-1-1-billion-payout-what-it-means-for-owners-and-more/

In short, here’s the details of what this means for all involved, based on the details outlined in the draft settlement.
Toyota owners, past and present:
- If you sold your Toyota, or returned a leased one prior to the lease expiry, a $250 million fund will be established to compensate you for the reduction in the value of your car. If the fund doesn’t have enough money to cover the full loss in value for every owner, it will pay out a pro-rated amount.
- If you are still driving one of the vehicles listed in the settlement, Toyota will pay for a brake override system to be installed in your car, or make a cash payment in lieu of the installation. The system, the settlement says, “will automatically reduce engine power when the brake pedal and the accelerator pedal are applied simultaneously under certain driving conditions.” If your vehicle is not elligible to have the system installed, Toyota will make a cash payment of up to $125.

In some cases and if u have had an accident due to car trouble the makers pay a fine to you or settle out of court or pay to the government. Now where the hell do u think some of the recalled cars which cant be repaired are sent to..You are damn right. Africa and in our case naija as we dont have a system in place for checking out these.. And the car manufacturers have to recoup their money. An average nigerian gets on the road with a new ride, has an accident due to the brake not working, escapes unhurt and goes to give thanksgiving. AND THATZ IT.

If u know anyone who has had accident with a potentially new car and u know the make of the car, try typing on google for example, 'BMW recalls steering wheel' and u will be amazed at what u see online. Here are more links below.

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2012/12/26/toyotas-1-1-billion-payout-what-it-means-for-owners-and-more/
http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/toyota-recalls-242-000-prius-lexus-hybrids-over-brake-issues-1.1311669
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26950970
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/oct/21/toyota-recalls-166m-cars-faulty-brakes-engines
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2654899/Toyota-recalls-ANOTHER-650-000-cars-defective-airbag-explode-Honda-Nissan-affected-too.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/26/toyota-reaches-settlement-in-acceleration-recall-cases/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/car-manufacturers/toyota/10754102/Toyota-recalls-another-35000-UK-cars.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/07/08/honda-recall-expanded/12388069/
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-10/honda-recalls-175-000-fit-vezel-hybrids-for-control-flaw.html
http://online.wsj.com/articles/nissan-honda-recall-2-8-million-vehicles-1403521353
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26991354
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1080942_2012-bmw-x5-diesel-recalled-over-power-steering-failure
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/06/22/bmw-recalls-x5-x6-over-leaking-power-steering-fluid/
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1088099_handful-of-bmw-models-recalled-due-to-faulty-brake-system

I feel religion has really been used to hoodwink africa and africans.

Fulaman198: I just want to hear people's thoughts on this subject matter. I personally believe that to a certain extent it does.

Apatheist: Non-theists-- atheists, agnostics, humanists, ati bee bee lo -- what is the basis of your morality?
How do you decide if something is "good" or "bad".

I am aware that morality is subjective.


I am busy now, Will post mine later.

"what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"
--Plato

basille: Lmfao, why should unbelievers keep out, is that how the bible taught Christians to behave?

Op, one advice for you. In your quest to seek whatsoever don't starve yourself so you won't end up mistaking the growl of an empty stomach for the voice of God.

Who knows, one of this days, i might consider seeking the face of amadioha.

Kingspin: According to him, “Why will I be
scared of these bats? I am too
loaded with the Holy Spirit to
contact Ebola. Ebola is an
international witchcraft at work.”

Source nationnewspapers

olubukato: Make sure u snap o.. picture of u crying or idonbilivit.. muehehehehe

vareal: Touch nt my anointed ND do my prophet no harm
pls dnt draw course to ursef cos of him. Let God judge. After all he did nt force them to giv. Given to d church or a man of God is
biblical. The problem with us is that wen we giv, we still go ahead to monito wit d person did wit d gift.too bad

Billygee2u: it's quite sad,a lot of people have forgotten God and forbid to do good.People busy committing all sorts of evil .blood shed everyday ,the blood of the innocent crying against the land.we need genuine repentance both pastors ,Imams and others .

Billygee2u: dear,prayer is spiritual ,and spiritual control the physical .God answers prayers made to him according to His will.and his will is that "you shall serve the lord your God, and He will bless your bread(food ),your water and will take sickness away from among you"Exodus 23:25.and "if my people who are called by my name shall humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways,then I will hear them from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."2Chronicles 7:14.Our repentance is needed for God to heal our land from EBOLA VIRUS /DISEASE .There is nothing hard for God to do.
there is no impossibility with God."behold I am the lord ,the God that made all flesh .Is there anything too hard for me?Jeremiah 32:27.
while fervent and effectual prayers are going on God will raise people who will bring lasting and permanent solution to the EBOLA VIRUS /disease .then the Ebola virus will not only be cured ,but eradicated from our beloved country NNIGERIA .God bless all Nigerians and Africa as a continent.

nora544: South africa has a University where they search for the local herbs so I ask you why nigeria didnot have this the gigant of Africa........

Start a poject donate for a laboratory where they can search at the local herbs that would be a great step and would help more.

That would help more than this prayer warrior!

iamord: I always love reading your post. I can't say much cos u have said it all. A word is enough for the wise.. I know there are some herbs in the bush yet to be discovered that can fight ebola. Just that majority of black people don't know what they have

iamord: Correct sentence should be

BRAINWASH IS INCREDIBLY STRONG!!

chinkichun: It depends on what they mean by "prayers to fight against ebola" they should pray for God to give Nigerians the knowledge to find a cure and also give the Government and health officials the wisdom to control and contain the spread of the disease for now instead of just "BINDING AND CASTING" ebola.

maclatunji: LOL. I am saying we should know that science has limitations and cannot explain everything. However, we should also seek to improve our knowledge.

maclatunji: This thread is especially handy for "whipping" into shape the many impressionable people on Nairaland masquerading as science buffs because they read a few books or watched a few documentaries.

These are mysteries that scientists at the highest level cannot explain talk less of some "keyboard science aficionados" .

So, shall we say the moon does not exist because our experience of it defeats what was considered to be factual knowledge before?

Of course not. That would be silly. Hence, we shall leave silliness to the silly ones.

ritababe: What american can do, african can do it better,

i pray this nano silver work so that the US will be put to shame

moscobabs: Before life left Nurse Ejelonu, she was very vocal and outspoken, calling for the release of the experimental ZMapp drug for ebola victims. She never got it, and she finally died this morning. She was just 25. Died with her dreams, a future quashed. African scientists, are you still in existence? African leaders, when will your brains be activated? Africans, we keep constructing all sorts of buildings that add little to our productivity[b] (if Félix Houphouët-Boigny is not wasting millions of dollars on a cathedral in Yamoussoukro, the dude wasted $300million on the world's largest church while his people lived in grinding poverty in the same city he sited his grandiose basilica[/b], you will see the Yobe State Government wasting billions of naira on a mosque that will sit 100,000 worshippers, forget the fact that their children are begging on the streets and their women are dying in thousands during childbirth) but the things that really matter, hospitals, libraries, research & development centres, astronomical observatories, recreational parks, we never build those. An American doctor who also got infected got the experimental drug and he is doing fine now because the scientists and leaders in their own country have their brains and they make good use of their mental resources. Until Africans realize that we need to get our lazy asses to the laboratories and make the most creative use of our brains in the fullest manner, nothing will change. If you work for my company and you are caught sleeping at work because you attended a vigil or asalatu over night, I will personally FIRE YOU. You can then go back to your prayer camp or moshalashi and collect your salary! We need to change our mindset and be realistic. This lady's death is needless. Only if as Nigerians, we were very proactive and had developed our own stock of experimental drugs. Our president too carried his hat all the way to Washington to meet Obama, ebola drug, he no fit collect come home, na to dey queue for back for photo. And as we are shouting ebola now, I am sure the Federal Ministry of Health is not preparing for the next epidemic of another exotic disease. We are never prepared. Oga Jona was calling Sawyerr mad for bringing ebola to Nigeria. The egunje customs and immigration that allowed him enter without screening nko? Are they not crazy as well?

DEGREE2466: They should die very well. Nigeria soldiers are just nuisants to this country. When it comes to fighting the insurgents they become weak but if it comes to the civilians, there you will see their strenght. Bunch of wicked animals.

Truth is, nigeria police is now better than nigeria army both in corruption and vigilance.

sandijey: You are so right. And the worse part is that this blacks do not even strive harder to make something outta their lives. Not sure bur I can bet that most blacks u see in schools or working hard in u.s or Europe came from Africa or second or third generations of Africans who have imbibed the culture of working hard from their parents. You should see d way the black Americans give birth to children anyhow, have different baby mamas as if it's a trophy, not to talk of the drugs. Its almost the same thing in africa. Giving birth to children we cannot take care of. If we say the system is bad, how about people like Oprah Winfrey. Naomi Campbell. Etc. The only honourable thing u see blacks doing is sports. Music has become so dishonourable considering drugs and prostitution. Not saying the whites are perfect. But they have made the society suit their supremacy. They will continue to rule and treat blacks anyhow till we have another martin Luther King. I don't no the kind of spirit that governed that man but he was different. What is stopping this blacks from going to schools, or colleges. Becoming scientist too and inventing things? Must we always switch on our tvs and see white people doing this and that. White people hair. White people this white people that. Why won't Africans bleach. Why must they always want to make quick money. What's the difference between the black Americans who do drugs and the yahoo boys here. It's all about quick money. How about bringing down syndrome. If u no how the blacks abroad look at the Africans. I'd hate them. Many of them don't care about Africa. When my sister calls home she gives me stories of the kind of questions black Americans ask her about Africa. Imagine one asking her how she got to America and if there are airplanes. My sister being who she is said she swam through the Atlantic ocean for 7 days non stop. Another one asked her if we have cars, skyscrapers and if there are monkeys on the street. Imagine the nonsense coming from a black American. Here in africa nko, see as south Africa they vex say we overtake their white economy. In Nigeria nko, tribal issues here and there. Can africa ever stand for one thing?


Honestly nothing different from a black man in Yankee or Europe to the one in africa. The environment is just different. The same stories, the same problems. All I no is nobody can dominate u, or look down on you if u do not give them reasons to. Africans need to awake.