₦airaland Forum

Truths9ja:
Adeleke team didn't wise up here. How could you decamp to a party that has multiple factions at the state and national level. Adeleke's a goner.

Keep deceiving yourselves with assumed factions, Adeleke is returning to government house for his second term.

This one is a private party, no INEC, no recognition. Adeleke we know, Bamgbo-whatever is a meddlesome interlopper.

Even with the spate of defections that the PDP has suffered, it still command more wards, LGs and States presence than all other opposition parties coalition.
With Turaki (SAN) at the helm of affairs, PDP is gradually rebuilding its structures. INEC unequivocally is behind the Turaki leadership, no matter what any "purchased" high court judgement may say, PDP is fielding a candidate in 2027 becauset he Supreme Court will throw away all such "buyer beware judgements".

Believe me or not, Peter Obi is their man.

Yesterday's meeting with OBJ is the first leg at bringing PO back into PDP. It is no coincidence that the very next day, we are being told Peter Obi will make a statement in January.
Once PO rejoin the PDP, the ADC, LP, and SDP will become history. All the defections, refections and infections will become effort in futility.
Just remember you read it here first time.

I can tell that some folks will not sleep this weekend, just reading this.

Tinubu and his entire cabinet need to resign for this blunder. What special technology can Islamic bandits have that FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA cannot track calls?
Tinubu ooo, Tijaniooo, etc should be booted out of office.

#banditry, #end kidnapping, #endapc

madridguy:
PDP members should stop wasting their time thinking they can bounce back. PDP era is gone for good.

Why are you swallowing Ampicillin for another person's gonorrhea? Abi you get diarrhea of the lower part?

malali:
The United States should get its facts straight before casting a shadow over a sovereign nation like Nigeria. Allegations of oil theft and transnational crime demand evidence, not inference. A vessel flying an illegal flag, with opaque ownership layers and a history of name changes, does not automatically translate to Nigerian culpability, especially when NIMASA confirms the ship is not Nigerian-flagged, not on Nigeria’s registry, and the alleged owner is not registered as a Nigerian shipping company.

Hearsay is not proof. Maritime cases rise or fall on documents, registries, bills of lading, AIS data, sanctions filings, and named beneficiaries. If there are Nigerians involved, name them. If there is bunkering, trace the barrels. Until then, restraint is not weakness—it is rule of law.

Nigeria’s Senate should formally invite the U.S. Ambassador to explain, on the record, how the conclusion “Nigerian-owned” was reached when the facts point to flag hopping and shell structures, the classic smoke screen of illicit shipping. Picture a cartoon octopus of paper companies waving mismatched flags; blame the octopus, not the coastline it once swam past.

Accountability is welcome. Careless attribution is not.

Voltron ... defender of Tinubu's government!!
Did you read that the skipper was operated by Lagos base company called Thomarose Global Venture Ltd? "Skipper is an oil tanker that entered service in 2005 (then named Toyo), owned by Triton Navigation based in the Marshall Islands and operated by Nigeria-based Thomarose Global Ventures.
It is all pointing to Lagos and by extension the Bourdillon axis. Fingers crossed! I expect the US to remove the veil of incorporation, perhaps a connection to the ChalG...y people might be involved.

IJAYA001:
Don't expect Peter Obi if automatic ticket is not available, the man doesn't like to contest primary. Anytime he sees primary he runs like bolt.

You already know why. Primary "selection" is usually by purchasing delegates with USD, like Tinubu did in 2022. Any candidate that purchases delegate will first "settle" those that provide him the Billions or Trillions before doing anything tangible.

kettykin:
Either way he will still sweep Lagos and defeat any other candidates. Peter rules Lagos votes

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Oro or no oro, Obi has 65% of Lagos votes.
You can argue with your laptops.

Early this year, INEC announced the receiving applications for registration of new political parties. As we head into 2026, some of wonder what is delaying INEC from concluding the process.

INEC, WHERE ARE THE NEW POLITICAL PARTIES

Back in early 2000 or there about, TVs were flooded with all forms of "miracles", from Atmosphere for Miracles, to TB Joshua's TV shows, etc. The airwaves became toxic with TV stations competing with each other on paid TV advertorials on tevevangelist miracles. Then, government through NBC banned TV stations from airing such adverts. That was when sanity was restored with many of the televangelist setting up their stations to propagate their miracles.

Fast forward to present day, the menace of Poltical Prophecies have taken over. We hear "prophets" predicting elections and most times fail. The funny thing is that NONE of our so-called Prophets saw COVID19. None of them prophesied October 7, 2023 Hamas invasionof Israel. None, not even a clue. They are mostly LIARS and in some cases "prophesy" vaguely and generally.

This is the more reason that government, through INEC should ban political Prophecies. In fact there should be a law to regulate such Prophecies, with 10 years jail term for any FAILED PROPHESIES.

The woman is untrained unfortunately. People like her need to go back to polishing school. The same unruly behavior she exhibited in the Senate that made Dino to nearly slap her. Very uncouth.

Ttalk:
Stop exposing your limited knowledge otherwise you would know that MTN has data of its subscriber from every state, so generating the value of airtime and data used in each state shouldn't be an issue, but you can't see it because you don't know it's possible

The only way you can clear this is simple ... pull data from your so call VAT generation and share.
How about VAT at Apapa Port, do they collect them in Asaba Head bridge?
I import cars and sell in Benin, but all duties and VAT are collected in Apapa, how does it add to Edo State collections?

Ttalk:
It is a northerner that should be making that case and not a SEner.

It is generally noted just as mentioned above that if agricultural raw product are VATable, then the SE will be in the distance bottom.

You should know this because SE is not a net producer of agricultural products, they depend largely on the north and SW for supply of these agricultural products

This will even increase the contribution of the income generated from the VAT by SW and the North.

There's no how you spins it, SE poor VAT revenue is a reflection of the region overall economic outlook

Where did I mention any region sir? Your obsession with SE is dangerous. I only mentioned commodities that are not VATABLE, but you claim to be subsidizing them. For your information I am not a SEner. However, learn to respect every tribe.

VAT is NOT a measure of PRODUCTIVITY in NIGERIA (QED)

Christlike01:
VAT, a tax payable on consumption, reflects the purchasing power and economic activity of the people in the area where it is generated. Therefore, if the South-East is generating the least VAT in Nigeria, it clearly shows that the region has the lowest level of economic activity in the country. Higher VAT collections generally indicate stronger economic activity and spending levels in the area where they are generated. Productivity cannot truly be high in a region where businesses are shut down every Monday. I think you should stop deceiving yourself.

Where does MTN generate VAT and where is it remitted? Just bold your answer. You just copy textbook definition that is NOT applicable in Nigeria. This is the problem with our education ... theory without application.

The VAT MTN generates in Maiduguri is collected in Lagos. So, how is Lagos the more productive State? The imports that are going to Onitsha is VATed in Apapa, what is Anambra stake in it? The VAT NNPC generates in Olibiru is collected in Abuja, so tell me how your TEXTBOOK definition makes sense.

Since many of you cannot learn, I have to leave you guys with your ignorance. Keep WALLOWING SELF DECEIT!

Ttalk:
You are not making sense, most things you mentioned above are not VATable.

There's no vat on the maize you farm.

If the maize is taken to my state and a company there processed it into conflake and distribute into supermarkets, then the company generate VAT out of the raw materia turned into finished product

The state that has the company that process the corn and the supermarket with high disposable income that sells the finished products generate VAT

The company grows
The supermarket grows
The people consume quality flakes
The government of the state makes more money for development
The entire state benefit and grow

That is why it is called VALUE ADD TAX

So because they are NOT-VATABLE, those states are NOT-PRODUCTIVE. Is that correct? Then why do you equate VAT to productivity if MOST of what Nigerians including you FEED ON are NOT-VATABLE?
Because you have a company producing Coca-Cola, which is VATABLE, the state that FEEDS you with NON-VATABLE goods is Not Productive.

You are not smart. You now see that VAT collection is no yardstick fir PRODUCTIVITY.

Namaster:
Mr Man, you are NOT smart.
Embrace your ignorance and LEARN!

VAT is paid on RAW MATERIALS and SEMI-FINISHED goods. Not just finished goods.

Consumers are NOT the only ones who pay VATs.
Producers and Manufacturers do too.

That is why VAT is linked to supply regardless of who the buyer is.
Learn!

Another learner ... Go and verify from all manufacturers. Input VATs are mostly higher than output VAT. Let me educate you. Your inputs include materials, overheads (utilities - generation of electricity, water, sewage, etc), which forms about 70% of total cost to make. These carry INPUT VATS. when they sell, they generate output VAT, which might be additional 30% of valu. Now, this operation is continuing and so the manufacturers has inventory for 3 months production. Hence INPUT VATs are generally higher than OUTPUT VAT. Meaning, they submit ZERO VAT RETURNS.
When you buy the goods, you pay the VAT on 100% of the VALUE.

DomPerignon:
Before VAT, there was Luxury Tax on certain goods and service deemed as a luxurious and optional item. Jewellery, high end fashion, etc used to attract luxury tax as high as 25-35%.

This was mostly in Europe.

Then VAT was slowly introduced as a means of taxing every commodity and service produced and sold.

If you don't produce, you can't generate VAT. Its that simple.

In most factories, Custom and FIRS officers are deployed to take note of production amounts and from there, the company is expected to pay VAT on each unit item produced which will be passed on to the end consumer.

In the case of the SE, there hardly any production and most of the population has since migrated out ,seeing to very low rate of commerce and consumption.

The only time the SE comes to life is during Christmas holidays.

Please, VAT is different from EXCISE DUTIES. Do not mix it up. Input VAT is determined by your purchase invoices. Output VAT is determined by your sales invoices. As a producers, you NET your output minus your input to get what you pay. Most production or manufacturers have more inputs than output, so submit ZERO returns and carry over unutilized inputs.
It is the FINAL CONSUMER that pays the VAT.

nedu666:
Op is 100% right. Vat is a consumption tax. In UK once you pay for a product and you get a receipt you can see the vat rate. But in Nigeria it'd not so because companies can't separate vat payments by states so they pay at one point. Therefore lagos is a collection point for vat. Example a distributor goes to buy goods from nestle on ogun to onitsha. When he sells goods in onitsha, consumers should pay vat at point of payment but that doesn't happen so nestle has to pay the vat and include it in their cost. The same applies in all 36 states.

Thank you ... Nigeria have a lot of educated illitrates. Just as in UK, in Canada HST or GST is provincial tax. Some provinces charge 8%, others as high as 15%. In Nigeria, MTN generates VAT in all states and remit in Lagos. Then one illiterate will say Lagos is feeding others.

Ttalk:
No economic indices work in isolation, it is linked to one another.

An investor will look out for certain economic indices to make decision. High purchasing power, cash flow, spending pattern and many elements are put into consideration.

Where an accurate data is not accessible, those indices are used in making investment decisions.
If your state generates low VAT, it is clear indication that the purchasing power is poor, which in turn translate to sluggish or retard cash flow. The consequence will be poor local and foreign investment and to sum it up lead to a poor economy.

You only rely on lopsided Nigeria feeding bottle formula where you are being gifted what don't work for, let every state start relying on its IGR then you will know that VAT is one the vital income generation component that no serious state should joke with

STILL BEGGING THE QUESTIONS. LET ME RESTATE THEM HERE

Let me ask you some SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
What is the VAT rate for a bag of Garri (Nigeria 's most consumed food)?
What is VAT on one Cow from Katsina?
What is VAT rate on A tuber of yam from Benue?
Your VAT collections simply means you are a NET CONSUMER.
You consume manufactured goods that are VATABLE.
You consume IMPORTED goods that are VATABLE.
You CONSUME oil and gas from Niger Delta and pay VAT.
Tell me what you produce in South West, NOTHING!

Namaster:
OP is NOT a very smart person!
It's LITERALLY in the name—VALUE ADDED TAX.
How clearer can it be?!

You are the one NOT SMART ...Who adds the VALUE, producer or consumer? You pay for the VALUE the PRODUCER ADDED, not the consumer addition. Consumers pay VAT.

DomPerignon:
You are confusing yourself.

First you said, VAT is a measure of consumption and not productivity, but here you are saying producers pass the tax on consumers.

Since VAT collection in Nigeria isn't directly from point of sale but rather production point wing to the nightmare logistics of tracking every sale point, VAT generation is tied more to production. Hence why States like Lagos, Ogun, and Oyo that have functioning production base generate the highest in VAT.

Even if we go by your initial argument in your first post, high consumption rate is a sign of booming economy as there is both the population and disposable income. Where a state has a higher consumption rate, that translates to higher disposable income and purchasing power - signs of a booming productive economy.

If we are to even apply VAT to farmers in the north, you will see that northern Nigeria is highly productive under a sustainable agro-based economy.

Let me ask you one SIMPLE QUESTION.
What is the VAT rate for a bag of Garri (Nigeria 's most consumed food)?
What is VAT on one Cow from Katsina?
What is VAT rate on A tuber of yam from Benue?
Your VAT collections simply means you are a NET CONSUMER.
You consume manufactured goods that are VATABLE.
You consume IMPORTED goods that are VATABLE.
You CONSUME oil and gas from Niger Delta and pay VAT.
Tell me what you produce in South West, NOTHING!

Ttalk:
Start making excuse for your dead economy.

Is that not an indication that the economy is active and huge cash flow support businesses and trickle down to the people.

One is not surprised when some state attract zero FDI, leading to their people seeking greener pasture in other viable states

You derailed completely. FDI has NOTHING in common with VAT. Go and Verify! Infact, when you but anything abroad and pay HST, you can collect it back at the port of exit.

Globad:
Give an example of productivity measurement

Read my post above ... PRODUCERS pass the INPUT VAT over to CONSUMERS. As a producer, when you but materials, you pay VAT, when you SELL your products to CONSUMERS, you NET OFF your input VAT. It is the CONSUMER that PAYS FINAL TAX (aka VAT). I know your comprehension cannot carry that. Go and ask OYEDELE.

Ttalk:
Start making excuse for your dead economy

That is all you can say, argue the point and give your perspective, you do not have. You are a CONSUMER to be having high VAT collection. Go and ask Oyedele. Producers receive back or Net-off INPUT VAT, while CONSUMERS PAY or VAT are collected from CONSUMERS.
Learn SIMPLE economics and stop advertising your ignorance 🤷‍♂️

VAT is NOT a productivity measurement, rather a CONSUMPTION measurement. The higher you CONSUME, the bigger your VAT.
For all those jubilating about how much VAT your state generate or collect, please go back to class 3 and start studying Economics.

If State A produces and State B consumes, State B will have higher VAT collection than State A, which is more productive State.

PulaPower:
It has always been the least productive, right from time..

VAT is NOT a productivity measurement, rather a CONSUMPTION measurement. The higher you CONSUME, the bigger your VAT.
Go back to class 3 and start studying Economics.

Any country that budgets for terrorism is a failed country. Any leader that budgets for terrorism is a failure.
- Islamic Boko Haram are terrorists
- ISWAP is a territory organization
- Islamic Bandits are terrorists
- Niger Delta militants are terrorists
- IPOB and unknown gunmen are terrorist
- Yoruba nations agitators are terrorists
- Pipeline vandals are terrorists
- Pipeline security men are terrorists
- Kidnappers are terrorists
Any government patronizing these TERRORISTS is TERRORISTS Enablers.

Reloadedisraelp:
Una go wail Taya.... Inec doesn't recognize turaki....if there's one person inec still recognize is the secretary...Samuel Anyanwu....be deceiving urslf with alot of junk writen down......una eye go clear one by one.

INEC only left those names for their tenure to expire. They will be removed from tomorrow, as their tenure ended yesterday. Since INEC and PDP constitution does not know what caretaker commo=ittee means, Wike is a GONER.

ElSudani:
It can only be valid if the ECOWAS protocol was never agreed to by the national assembly.

Does the protool supercede the Nigerian Constitution? Which is superior, ECOWS protocol or the Nigerian Constitution?

Iamgrey5:
President Tinubu doesn't chair Ecowas again

The newspapers should verify information before posting it

Did you read the post or you just rush to post as First to Comment? Oya, GO BACK and READ!!!