₦airaland Forum

AmazonTopaz:
Vanzcharles every land whether ancestral or not belongs to the government and every individual.male or female has a right to own any land.
If such female goes to court to challenge for ancestral land or not she will get a favourable judgment and there us nothing you can do about it.
Culture is different from the law and the law reigns supreme

Well there would not be any course for that in my own home as I would own my will. Everybody gets a share.

Back to what you said, it would be very hard for any female child (married) to take the customs of the people to court regarding ancestral homes and win.
The customary court bares such witnesses and sympathy to the culture of the land. In that vein, restrictions are being made in order not to cause land dispute. A woman married to a different home is very much free to be at her father's home as long as she can even if she might be granted to own a land, it shall not be passed on to her children.
This law above was made to protect the interest of the culture.

But if the land is outside the ancestral home, she is free to pass it on as form of inheritance or gift to whom she pleases.

LegendHero:
That is why I’m telling you your argument is faulty. It is not only applicable to ancestral land like you said, it applies to even land that are not ancestral.

The case where the Supreme Court made the judgement was a woman who was denied access to her father property in Lagos. Her dad owned an estate in Lagos and after his demise, the brothers failed to give her part of the inheritance and she took them to court.

Read the judgement below:
https://lawcarenigeria.com/mrs-lois-chituru-ukeje-anor-v-mrs-gladys-ada-ukeje2014/

Okay, I strongly believe that ancient culture should be abolished and restricted to only ancestral inheritance.
It is very unfair for the girl not to partake in the estate. She deserves it in as much as the male children have their ancestral home to share.

If i have a girl child why should I not give her my wealth I had acquired. It us totally wrong. Ev

topboss:
EVEN THE ONE IN LAGOS, GOES TO HIS SONS.

IT IS ONLY GIVEN TO THE FEAMLE CHILD IF HE HAS NO SON.

ANCESTRAL PROPERTIES ARE A NO GO AREA FOR ANY FEMALE CHILD.

If I give birth to my children all if make and female. I would make sure they all taste from it be it land or houses I have anywhere in Lagos, Abuja. What I will restrict to them is the home properties that was passed from me to my father in the village. That way they would go out and marry and bear children.

LegendHero:
Forget about all this things you are writing. It is not only applicable to ancestral land, it is applicable in all facet.

See the case that made Supreme Court give the judgement below, the land in question is an estate in Lagos. Is Lagos now part of the Igbo man ancestral land that their daughters cannot inherit?


The court specifically held that the practice conflicted with Section 42(1) (a) and (2) of the 1999 Constitution.

The judgment was given in an appeal marked: SC.224/2004 filed by Mrs Lois Chituru Ukeje, wife of the late Lazarus Ogbonna Ukeje, and their son, Enyinnaya Lazarus Ukeje, against Ms Gladys Ada Ukeje, who is the deceased’s daughter.

Gladys had sued the deceased’s wife and son before the Lagos High Court, claiming to be one of the deceased’s children and sought to be included among those to administer the deceased father’s estate.

The trial court found that she was a daughter to the deceased and that she was qualified to benefit from the estate of her father, who died intestate (without a will) in Lagos in 1981.

The Court of Appeal, Lagos, to which Lois and Enyinnaya appealed, upheld the decision of the trial court, prompting them to appeal to the Supreme Court.

In its judgment, the Supreme Court held that the Court of Appeal, Lagos, was right to have voided the Igbo native law and custom that disinherit female children. Justice Bode Rhodes-Vivour, who read the lead judgment, held that: “No matter the circumstances of the birth of a female child, such a child is entitled to an inheritance from her late father’s estate.”

Justice Rhodes-Vivour added, “The Igbo customary law, which disentitles a female child from partaking in the sharing of her deceased father’s estate is a breach of Section 42(1) and (2) of the Constitution, a fundamental rights provision guaranteed to every Nigerian.

“The said discriminatory customary law is void as it conflicts with Section 42 (1) and (2) of the Constitution. In the light of all that I have been saying, the appeal is dismissed. In the spirit of reconciliation, parties are to bear their own costs.”

Bro, whatever you mean I don't understand you. If a man has an estate in Lagos or be it anywhere, all of his children are entitled to the properties be it male or female.

The ancestral home is where he comes from and he doesn't share them to the female children. A female child cannot contest for land in her homeland when she is legitimately married.

If a woman begats a child outside and she us not married the child be it a make belongs to her father and is entitled to inherit ancestral properties ( houses and land in the village).

LegendHero:
Stop saying nonsense. I thought you’re sane but you’re now starting to sound like a broken record.

You first said we should mention where Yoruba had a female king. They brought one, you said they should rather bring a first class female king instead of lower class Kings.

Then they brought First class female kings that were female which include both Ooni Luwo of Ife an Alaafin Orompoto of Oyo, then you diverted and said what about palace practices.

They told you that has already been abolished and several kings are even standing as Christians and Muslims and even the traditional among them have consistently denounced such practices. Then you turn it to a joke section saying rubbish about youth rushing out for rubbish.

Like they always say “Misery love company”. You are ashamed of your Igbo archaic law of inheritance discrimination and you’re constantly looking for justification to defend it.

Women should be allowed to inherit properties from her father in Igbo land.

But what women won't and never inherit in Igbo land is the ancestral land.

If a man begats girls, he must share all his properties to them. Whatever he owns the lands, houses in the city should be for his daughters but his ancestral land goes back to his family so as to continue the spread of the family.

Reason is if a girl gets married, there is no way she can carry the ancestral homeland or pass it on to the children as inheritance as they belong to her fathers lineage ( I mean her fathers father).... And the husband can in no way, set IP territory in the home of another man.

You dont give your ancestral home to strangers. It remains with the family. It doesn't belong to the man for life because it us passed on from generation to generation. That is why villages still remain the same.





Aside the ancestral home, I dont see the reason women should not inherit properties.

Women should be allowed to inherit properties from her father in Igbo land.
But what women won't and never inherit in Igbo land is the ancestral land.
If a man begats girls, he must share all his properties to them. Whatever he owns the lands, houses in the city should be for his daughters but his ancestral land goes back to his family so as to continue the spread of the family.
Reason is if a girl gets married, there is no way she can carry the ancestral homeland or pass it on to the children as inheritance as they belong to her fathers lineage ( I mean her fathers father).... And the husband can in no way, set IP territory in the home of another man.
You dont give your ancestral home to strangers. It remains with the family. It doesn't belong to the man for life because it us passed on from generation to generation. That is why villages still remain the same.


Aside the ancestral home, I dont see the reason women should not inherit properties.

WannaHowzit:
No South African has ever said that. We have our own criminals and need space to deal with them. Undocumented criminals pose a totally different challenge because they are harder to trace. And because SA unemployment levels are high African immigrants tend to dabble in crime or very cheap labour in order to survive.

That's the other issue, cheap labour compounds the unemployment situation for South Africans because crooked employers ignore labour laws and hire undeserving foreign nationals.

Okay I understand you clearly now.

WannaHowzit:
South Africa setting trends in Nigeria. When SA goes Naija follows I thought it wasn't in your blood. Monkey see, monkey do.

Wait I don't get, are you trying to say that South Africans dont commit any crimes. That all these were brought in by the foreigners.
Because, I have seen you blaming every other countries about the failures and woes of SA.

Na idiot

saphiere:
Marry her. Ladies open your eyes. Men are just after sex. They always giving fake marriage promise. Once they get in between your legs they now remember that their tribe don't marry people from your tribe. That their mothers say this and that.
Ladies open your eyes. Don't be a used and dump.

The men that end up marrying nko

Ent3rpreneur:
I will get you, if its the last thing I do on planet earth.
Bastard

Bro.. You want to kill him right?

sulaak:
That's why he is not a leaders.

Mass protest doesn't decide the democratic decision of a leaders, it might influence the decision but a true leader with honest conviction would have convince Nigeria that removing oil subsidies and investing in fixing the four oil refineries would have been the best way forward.

He should have accelerated a programme for fixing the oil refineries and gradual reducing the oil subsidies, instead oil subsidies increased under GEJ wiping out the FX reserves left by OBJ government.

GEJ kept the oil subsidies for the best part of four years after the mass protest and did nothing absolutely nothing regarding the four non-fuctional refineries...because of GEJ incompetence, we now have a tribalist Buhari in power that is as bad and even worst than GEJ.

Well said

obailala:
If politicians dont play politics, who will?

It only becomes dangerous when we are blinded by bigotry and ethnic differences that deludes our reasoning on the way forward that is why political elites use that as a tool to cripple the growth of our country.

It is left for us to decide without sentiments on why Nigerians has entered into a lower level over the past few years.
No economic growth, increases in electric tariff, increase in fuel price, monopoly of economy, recession, increase in foreign debts and so on.

We should not be blinded because it is evident to any one with reasoning why the rate of naira to dollar keeps falling on daily basis. Things are not supposed to be how it is.

Politicians play politics no doubt. Politicians play us to their personal gain.

Nawa oooo.. Rivers which way... D blud don tu much oo�

Abobi no con dey safe oo

Later some idiots will shout crime are synonymous with one tribe.

If u like be their doing Igbo are thieves you don't have rest of mind when dealing with them unlike other tribes..

No go shine your eyes na ur kinsmen go dupe you. Rubbish

donproject

sulaak:
Why didn't GEJ remove oil subsidies? What stop him, he was the president and his cabinet backed the removal of oil subsidies.

Considering the mass protest by the people and agitation, in a system of democracy where all the dialogue with various bodies cane to no reasonable conclusion other than the its substainace there was no choice than to abide by the rule of the people.

obailala:
You no get leg to stage protest?

I've seen several people posting pictures saying APC protested subsidy removal in 2012. Abeg what or who is stopping PDP from protesting now?

To me it is not about protesting subsidy removal. The problem is that we were supposed to pass this stage if only the present political elites who were the antagonist then refused to blind the general masses on the importance of subsidies removal.

Now, eight years later we are now back to the same thing that they was once agitated for. We are running in circles bro.

Who no go no go know. As the time bn dey that tym present administration no sabi Weytin dey sup until now wey dem dn enter there. You don see say the mata con get as e be na

post=93541166:
This is what we have been advocating for for a long time now.
Good initiative.
Slow and steady we will get to a new and better Nigeria.

Na now your morning wake.

This was the same set of people against the previous administration on the removal of fuel subsidy. They used the gullible Nigerians like to believe in the incompetency of the administration.

Now they are in power the Dom see am na.. All they know how to do was criticize and compare that they were no more long queues. But when Jonathan wanted to provide solution they kicked against it then.

If you like support them that wan consign una, because you just hated them so you've made up yourins to justify anything.


Good Riddance!!!
If only this subsidy had been removed, we would have been 7 years ahead if this problem something that would have been removed since 2012.. Now we are in 2020 Nigeria which way forward?

Isi GI idikwa gi nma

You just open thread tinye OK SMH

goodman41:
Thanks you so much for this advise, she is the last born she is so much attached to the mother I will go to see her

Abobi you think say she no sabi ya plan. You wan carry am put for house make she dey born give u OGA and u go com dey take care of baby things, come forget wedding . After small tym she go carry belle X2.
Oga what she us asking is simple. Wed her like a proper wife just as her mate. Its no big deal irrespective of what remain for you to complete as her marriage rite.
Gather little money and wed her at the registry or church. I am telling you if that woman moves in with you, bro forget marriage anything 2years from now and she doesn't want that. You go Like am if na your sister anoda person put for house No wed but yet im mate dey go wedding year in year out..
Oboy women like all those things, the same way little children see their pairs wearing new shoes they also want you to buy for them.

A very nice expose has been going in the glorified Bucket association.

But my major concern here us why is Apache still hard to decode?

No stories yet about their modus operandi?
Mode of initiation?
Ranks and posts?
How to identify them deeply by their slangs?

Unlike NBM,SVC,EIYE,Kk,Maphite...e.t.c



But apache (BBB) is not still clear?

We need total expose?
I once heard they kill their rivals by poisoning.

What are the names of their Temples, deck,plantation called ?

Abeg if u have things to say about it talk.
Apache also known as 22 all these are just shallow revelation. Compared to other frats @Ambii come and do serious justice to that.


I hope am clear, anyone that wants total expose should come out to down.

Most people before me just like enthronedbyGod1, OP, GreenArrow1, CharleyGold, falklandsaga, accountability and that guy that did deep expose on BAN, a lot did serious justice in exposure and in no way should be said they did not do their best in exposure.
Every man with his own meter. I had done my part by answering some questions pertaining the running of NBM at certain times. It is a life we are not proud of.

Please any deep expose on 22?/their head is called what? How many ranking officers with their regalia? Anthem? What are their methods of naming? Name they call rival members? How do they plan HIT? Do they steal? Any female extension?

nedu666:
You drove from Lagos to ibadan and back searching for fuel for your generator
You are a mumu man

I swear

leokid866:
First you people shouted remove subsidy...
Now that they can't afford it anymore and are removing the cap small small they are now scam.....current pump price in the u.s is .6 cents per litter even if you use 360 that is still over 200 per litter....so what is it you want again?

Oga no be all of una wan kill Jonathan wen e remove fuel subsidy. Abeg no dey defend wetin no get head. If e Bad e Bad just say u like APC

Oyaaaa!!!!
For im small mind na e dn dey work.

After experiencing covid 19..

Come make nobody come this thread come dey para anyhow for another person.

Drop your expose and leave. If anybody quote you ignore and keep moving. No be to dey shout and harass anybody wey com your way biko.


After all if na so the thing they pepper you for body, why u no open your own thread since.

After they would cry women are cheated all over the world.

She just became a billionaire over night.

You can call lala.. It definitely gonna make FP!!



Some nice meal ready by the way.
Sultry, delicious, mouth watering snake.



Lalasticlala ....is that you with the pot?

Yipee.. I made FTC at last. Oga seun where my own share

That should better be done considering the recent unhealthy developments between the two countries.

Hu dey threaten GreenArrow for here!!!!!!


E no sit at all, that guy wey dn cast OT upon OT and drop wisdom for people.


Abeg!!!!!
GreenArrow (for those who don't follow this thread) strongly SAYS NO TO CULTISM.


Make everybody calm down before you go war u suppose sabi hu you dey fight unless you would end up fighting your own self.

donproject:
Yes sir...I will shut up only when you can prove to me that these people are not guilty of this fraudulent trait I claim they all posses. A typical igbo man before me is already a suspect of the worst criminal endeavour, whenever I have to do any transaction with them, I take extra measure to make sure I'm not counting my losses after every deal.

I don't care if you are igbo or not, you can go to hell. My last experience with this group was so unpalatable, the hatred I develop aftermath is so intense. You can start ranting from now till cow comes home, I care less. I won't reply you after this anyways.

Mumu you dey yarn rubbish,like say if we do business or you meet a random stranger you would not be filled with doubt at first.


Werey, person wey go dup you Go Dupe you.

I can not forget his many yoruba guys I sent money online to purchase some stuffs and they blocked me. My account almost got wiped by a yoruba guy. I retrieved it by Gods grace.


Do you expect me to start calling yoruba ppl up and down. Just grow up after all na for these thread we dey view as them dey catch yahoo boys anyhow. Politicians steal up and down.
But when your civilian do you, u go begin to scream tribalism.


Guy Go hug transformer, you disgust me with your tribalism. Tomorrow na that same igbk man go help you. Tomorrow na that same yoruba man go help me. So e no mean.