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gallivant:
Modern retail is not available for 98% percent of Ghanains so naturally they will prefer open dirty stys to do their shopping.

over 10 malls are in Accra serving a population that is less than 1.2 million. and more are still progressing.

I can provide a factual data that you kiberans are poor and prefer the kwegrerere market beside the dodora estate

Shma:
check some words before you embarrass yourself prof.

I am sure you never knew that word generally deprived your incapacity . yes , you knows nothing . now exercise your brain why I include s in that word .

Shma:
I asked austine.

He knows a lot.

while You knows nothing , so you need a remote server to do it for you.

Shma:
and infrastructure wise?

Just need your genuine answer again.

We need to settle this once and for all.

Ghana is currently undergoing 1.2 billion dollar project on health infrastructure alone. so I don't get your stupid bragging right. what do you stuply understand by that word

Shma:
and if we say we're on the Same level with Ghana?
With population not being factored?

That we be a stupid thing to say.

rvp20182:
A real primitive.

says a confused idiot

Austine1213:
Development is more than just skyscrapers, or a nice looking city

Kenya don't have it better than Ghana in this as well.

Shma:
please bro, tell us how Ghana is more developed than kenya.

Human development index explain it in a plain language

samorobo:
No I don't think it is the cost...Things in supermarket are relatively almost thesame price if not lesser than those sold in informal stores... except if the reverse is the case in Kenya
I think.it is about the income
How many Kenyans can afford to rent a space in a mall with their meagre income.

it is cost . hardly can budget works for mall shoppers. Though malls are relatively less costly thru out the world but they are also into serious business to dry you up. from promotion ( buy 2 take 1 free) to give away prices ( well discounted prices) this method are there for you to keep buying. it is marketing psychology.

samorobo:
This is also true..you are tempted to buy more even though you know you are not financially stable for it... because people around you are moving around with filled trolley not empty ones....
No one wants to walk into a mall and come out with a bottle of coke...there is a shame such fellow might feel even though you will barely be noticed..

factuality does not work for RVP. he is so dumb. I guess he lives in his own world.

rvp20182:
Supermarket the world over are cheaper, more convenient, and almost preferred to your open-air market. Let us just say you're still primitive with quite some advancing to do, in a short time. Formal retail is critical for the advancement of the economy. Ask the South African to help you. Seem you prefer their schools and teachers anyway.

The research about Nairobi shoppers indicate majority will rather shop openly rather than malls. And the fact is not far fetched, 60 percent of nairobians are slums dwellers who lives from hand to mouth. shopping in luxury stalls is way above bills for them .

Your country can only correct that by improving the living standard of her populace.

no sound economics will undervalued informal sector except you analphabetic slowpoke.

rvp20182:
That is a misconception. Supermarkets and malls are cheaper. . The luxury stores and brands around the malls are expensive. But manufacturer will give a HUGE discount to supermarket chain...and they will transfer it to consumer. And that is how they become popular. Kenya started about 20yrs this push..and now we are about 40% shopping in formal retails..malls, supermarket..and 60% still doing the nonsense you're talking about...and rate of conversion is high. Even people in rural areas - realize how cheaper it is to shop once in supermarket - than buy small and expensive.

You think shopping in malls is just about buying discount Chinese product at a give away price . it is way more than that. there is this psychological concept of buying more than what you bargain for? hardly can scale of preference works for mall shoppers. because the more you see the more you wanted to buy, and coupled with the discount price, you are 100 percent likely to shop more than an individual who rather cut her coat according to her cloth in open market.

samorobo:
Lol the major reason why Kenyan malls are collapsing due to low patronage is because their disposable income is very low and still falling... honestly I never expected it to grow when workers are constantly being laid off on a country that is supposedly growing at 6% high unemployment is the order of the day..with shrink purchasing power, middle class you name it

A larger chunk of the population will prefer to go shopping at kambi muru open market rather than west gate mall. it is about 'cost'" . that luxury to shop in malls is not available to over 60 percent urban Kenyans who lives in slum .

rvp20182:
I Know - but not a developed country. [b[b]]You need to get to at least 12,000 usd per capita [/b]- [/b]and your medium term prognosis is negative or 1% growth - while the population is growing at 1.5%.

They are so many country even with 20 thousand dollars per capital yet they are not a developed country. To become a developed nation, it way more than how many money exchange hands . you can be doing little financially and be doing great in social reforms and stability like we see in the case of schy the only developed Africa country.. Her growth is not so much spectacular

rvp20182:
Yes - we have Southern and East Africa PISA like test - for more than 10yrs years now - SACMEQ. ... Mauritius and Kenya are miles ahead. South African education is very horrible.

Education is not about the building. It's about resources. It more than that.

In Kenya the district that leads in exam results sometimes includes TURKANA.

This idiot actually says something very sensible for the first time on this thread. yet , this hogwash fact will still escape his mind when she is comparing Ghana to her hell- hole.

so have you now realised all malls that are collapsing in Kenya for failure of owners to service the rent bill as a result of low patronage and continue loss are waste of time and money. the money should have been channelled toward improving poor Kenyans instead of letting them starved.

coke or fanta which one do you prefer ?

rvp20182:
Tought times - call for tough measures.

that is a Dracula measure , Do you understand what it is meant not to be paid salary? Do you understand the severe human damage? TOGO and Benin republic are way more developed than Rwanda

samorobo:
And who is that idiot that think west African cities exist only in Nigeria and Ghana....I present something better than your slum.with amazing infastructure..ABijan in ivory coast.... Beyond Naija and ghana


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfueSIqeN3w


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMle-PlZFxc

Senegal is arguably the most developed francophone west Africa country. Though Dakar is a little bit laid back to Abidjan. but the country is perfectly healthy in social system . way better than ivory coast.

Rwanda suspend April salary for all government workers, while ignorant people still used the country has standard of progress in Africa..... what a mess ....


I think Rwanda is not even better than benin republic .....

benji93:
I would advise you now to go and get some proper education. I am a published researcher man. And if I don't know what pooling means I would google it, man. Meanwhile, I dropped out of Legon to get a far better education elsewhere. It's as simple as that. And you seem to have an exaggerated sense of your knowledge. Let me reiterate again, I never opined that pool testing should not be adopted. Perhaps you should go and read my post-the first one you mentioned- again. In a follow-up comment I stated that although it's something I recommend given our population, it's better to test a percent of the population individually, extract certain factors from these and then commence pool testing. You make it seem as if I clearly consider pool testing inappropriate, hence the reason I suggested that you should get a better education. You really do need that education, man. Honestly, I would like to know if you even attended a university and if you did, what did you study? Cos it doesn't sound like you have adequately enlightened yourself on the subject matter. I have mentioned its limit with respect to individual testing, but since you don't necessarily read my comments, you probably passed over it-i wasn't twisting words, I was stating facts. Again, when the percent of infected persons is more than 2%, pool testing is considered inefficient. The source below indicates a case where pool testing is inefficient
https://spectrum.ieee.org/view-from-the-valley/the-institute/ieee-member-news/everybody-in-the-pool-algorithm-researchers-tackle-the-coronavirus-test-shortage.

I have checked NCDC's website and over 12% of the tested samples are positive, which implies that pool testing may be inappropriate. I suppose that's why they chose not to go that way. Germany, which you mentioned has an infection rate of about 6%, while South Korea has about 1.7%, so if the current infection rate was the same when they began pool testing, I would consider it relatively useful, especially in the case of South Korea. I could argue that perhaps if they had ramped up testing earlier, maybe the pool testing would have been possible, but we are where we are. Also, the number of samples you can pool together depends on the rate of infection. So if you commence testing by employing the pool testing method, you may be pooling the incorrect number of samples. Now the second source has a graph which shows that increasing the pool size increases the number of false negatives. As such if you chose the wrong number in a pool, there's a likelihood that you a pool that tested negative may contain samples from some persons with the virus.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.09944.pdf

Besides, 88% of the persons that tested positive in Ghana have no travel history. That's quite alarming. Perhaps you should think about it.

Please if you do not have anything useful, or you have not gotten better enlightenment do not mention me again. Good luck.

Don't be scared of knowledge. Are you aware I am better in this information you are supplying than you. you foolishly think you can used too many words to get scared off. no matter how you try to pretends. you are not a scientist. you are just an anonymous idiot . you are not even debating , you are fighting . drop your gloves .


Now go back to the above link you quoted and explain to us what you foolishly understand by what you see. or I educated you again .

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpIBw9400Ds

Kenya Airways to Evacuate Stranded Citizens In China

At their own cost .

benji93:
Lost my reality? I would like to first ask you, as someone else asked me. Are you a researcher? What bullshit. Detection limits of individual testing are the same as pool testing? Are you kidding me? Where did you get that information from man? It's been recommended that any region with more than 2% of its population infected does not qualify for pool testing. You are probably one of these guys that went UPS to read marketing. I don't understand why some of you guys think if someone punches holes in your arguments it must be because he doesn't know anything about it. I just told you i grew up in Ghana, and in fact I studied Biomedical Engineering at UG, and I left cos the research there was crap. I have not disputed the advantages of the use of pool testing. I have only made known the fact that it has only been recently applied to COVID, as such its efficiency is something to be concerned about. Besides pool testing may have been effective for other viruses/diseases but there's no telling how efficient it is with respect to COVID cos it's unprecedented, at least at this scale. Given the urgency of this, we can only apply whatever methods of testing and treatment that have had some success, learn, and modify our methods for better efficiency. As far as I am concerned you only have superficial information on the pool testing method, and that's alright, there are aspects of knowledge we are/were ignorant of. But if you do not have adequate information on a subject, when someone points it out go and search from reliable sources, then provide a comment.

I can as well tell you , you are more of Williams Shakespeare student rather than a scientist as you are trying to impersonate .You don't negate an argument by just stating it, you provide explanation as well.

now let me educate you, the anonymous legon drop out , what is “Pooling"" it just means that if you have for example 100 samples to be tested , you put them in pools of ten and, therefore, you test, at a time, 10 pools. So, instead of testing 10 samples, you actually test 100 samples. This is a common simple arithmetic, how is it limited to individual testing is what I am expecting you to state , not just mere twisting words together. just because Nigeria cannot do it , doesn't mean others cannot do it . it is a method that was derived in 1945 for screening samples right from the Blood Bank.

For the fact that there has been a robust data collection programme, of which 98.5% of samples posted negative to the virus shows that Ghana understand this scientific techniques far better than Nigeria, no matter how you publicly disagree. Ghana contact-tracing regimen is outstanding in Africa -i mean on per capita basis.

just 2.2% tested positive of the samples collected. that alone shows it is the best option.

benji93:
Stop the exaggeration man. In Nuclear and Medical research? I grew up in Ghana, man. . I also attended the University of Ghana for a while. So i know what research is like in Ghana. . So I am afraid that's a big lie. Ghana is not ahead of Nigeria in advanced research. Ghana doesn't even do much in advanced research. Besides you only restated my support of pool testing. You were looking for an opportunity to gloat about Ghana's involvement in advanced research. It's not as if you invented pool testing. Why are you even mentioning the western countries? I didn't have to do that to make my point. Must we apply everything that the western world applies? Encouraging the use of a method based on the fact that the western world uses it is a terrible way of convincing people-for their own good. The idea of pool testing for COVID was actually suggested recently by an institution in Isreal. It's efficiency for this virus has not actually been extensively studied. But in these trying times and for a large population such as Nigeria, that should be the way to go as it's effective. However, there's still a problem of determining how many samples should be in a pool. You have to be able to properly establish the percent of the population with the infection. you also have to factor in the number of false positives and negatives. In my opinion, you need to have tested a certain percent of a population to establish the factors earlier mentioned. I do not know if those at NCDC have tested enough people to establish these factors, neither do I know what fraction of the population is reasonable. I will have to do extensive research to determine that. I will leave that to those who have been paid to do it. My point is making theses choices are not as easy as you make it seem.

I am afraid you have lost your reality, the testing methods as we know are all western inclined scientific principle. therefore, it make more sense to redirect you to western country adopting this old techniques in availability of the individual testing.

now, Google "Corona pool testing" and you will find that it's an innovative method being used in Europe (Germany, France, Italy, UK, etc) and other parts of the world (USA, Canada, Australia, etc). Corona pool testing has increased worldwide testing capacities many times over , just like I said before . It has the same detection limits as doing individual testing. Corona pool testing has the advantage of speed and being cost effective. I am sure you probably doesn't know much about Corona pool testing just like you don't know the capacity of Ghana scientific research .

It's works "perfectly" well for virus with a very low prevalence rate. 2.2 percent rate is way lower. Remember, it has a very high sensitivity as well.

Kazikazi:
According to world bank,percentage of Tanzanians who are extremely poor is 8% in 2018 figures.Your figures are incorrect.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/tanzania/publication/tanzanias-path-to-poverty-reduction-and-pro-poor-growth


But yes Ghana has higher HDI than TZ.

Again TZ has better infrastructure than Ghana or Kenya.

E.g. Better railway network
Better roads
Better marine transport
Better airports
Radar systems

Figment of your own imagination.

kkins25:
olryt.. Kkins4nairaland@gmail.com

seen bro. we write you soon

benji93:
But honestly, you need a balance between the activity of testing more people and effective testing. For a population of over 200 million, pool testing is a better option. In fact, there's a high possibility that Nigeria has recorded a relatively larger number of deaths because of slow testing. You need to be able to isolate as many potential positive patients as possible. The earlier you can do that, the better. Although we cannot compare the results of the testing methods, I would think the facts available should urge the NCDC to reassess the efficiency of their method with respect to Nigeria's circumstances-population especially. For a country that has a limited number of testing kits and post-test health management facilities, i would think pool testing should be more effective. Although you may question the efficiency of the pool testing cos, it essentially involves testing a collection of samples, but I suppose scientists must have ascertained the effect of dilution e.t.c on the efficiency prior to recommending such a method.

The fact is that, when it comes to some aspects of advance research, Ghana is far ahead of Nigeria. This is so in the area of nuclear and medical research. This is so because we in Ghana easily use our poverty status to seek external assistance . but I think Nigeria is too big for that. lol.i was surprised Nigeria can even seek IMF rapid credit now .

now to the matter of pool testing, it is very sensitive; it detects even the minutest presence of the virus and amplifies it many times. Remember, that Ghana prevalence rate of Corona virus is still very low, around 2.2% of the population. same as in Nigeria as well, pool testing is ideal, fast and cost effective testing method for Corona virus. Google "Corona pool testing" for more information. You will find out that most European countries like Germany, UK, France, Italy, Spain, etc; and North American countries USA and Canada are all using the PCR pool testing method. Corona pool testing has increased worldwide testing capacities many times over.

Landnaira5:
Congratulations to Ghana but I think you need to also tell us that you guys are doing POOL testing while Nigeria is doing case by case testing with aggressive contact tracing. You know what that implies right? You can’t compare both countries since we use different testing methods.

covid pool testing is what every western country are presently doing......

aguerogh:
I am curious is it an index released by a reputable world organization which has been vetted and reviewed by experts, or it is an index that someone created in his bedroom just to make a point.

it is an index RvP and the likes created from their anus and diahorea decaying brain .

mtisTheQubit:
Give me a link sakawa boy..

Albino killers want a link

mtisTheQubit:
Little man thats not Kenya idiot..try use your data bundles well

You are sick upstairs . we are talking about albino killing ? is albino killing not synonymous to east Africa?

Just30:
In Kenya, 1.6 m kids in poor arid areas depend on WFP meals provided to them at school to survive
Covid has made it hard fr them to be fed

it is so terrible in Kenya that a widow woman was seen cooking stone just to passed the false impression to her kids that she is cooking food. I pity the poor Kenyan woman whose only predicament in life was been born in Kenya and as a Kenya

mtisTheQubit:
please nigga am a kenyan..any way yahoo boy explain ths

More Ghana yahoo yahoo horror

Explain the thousands of albino lives that has being cut shut like Nairobi water supply .