₦airaland Forum

GeneralDae:
Whatever shops you find by Nigerian traders in Ghana, it's quadruple in Aba and Onitsha.
Sorry, Nigerian traders in Ghana just like those in Cameroon just need space to spread their tentacles.
You can only make a point with the exchange rate disparity but even that is not so much of a problem.

this still doesn't end the poverty chain among nigerians wanting job across west africa. Ghana will still remain an alternative market to aba and onticha . It is yet to be saturated like balogun in lagos

Obaaderemi2:
Nonsense. The border closure was not a direct blow to Ghana but you still felt it so much your government was begging. The shop closure was a direct attack on nigerians living in Ghana and it did not even last. We sneezed at Benin, ghana got cold.

while your govt has to send a whole envoys directly to Flagstaff house for more diplomacy mission. You didn't beg alone , you beg with a team .

It wasn't a direct attack on Nigeria , it was a direct law against the foreigner operating illegally in Ghanaian space . Ghana locks your shop and the whole social media was in flame , it bite you harder. It lasted for much longer time pls .

Even Benin careless about your border closure , nigerians complain more

GeneralDae:
So when you close shops of Nigerian traders in Ghana, how do you think it affects Nigerian economy? It makes no sense.

However, closing border with Benin was clearly a problem to the Ghanaian economy. It's like comparing apples to oranges here.
Femi Gbajabiamilla did what he did not because it affects the Nigerian economy but simply as a means of diplomacy to show care for Nigerian people in other lands.

I can show you examples of how our closed borders affected Ghanaian economy and traders in Ghana. Can you show me how closed shops in Ghana affected Nigerian traders in Nigeria?

it directly affect Nigeria household those who depends on the chain of value that emanate from Ghana buy and sells . I.e those who depends on the Nigeria individual back home. That is a bigger stab . Closing Nigeria shops in Ghana means you have place some nigerians household member in poverty. It is simple common sense.

Closing border wasn't a problem at all, as it gives more chances for other countries to attract Ghanaian finished goods . Ivory coast and Senegal become immediate alternative . Nigeria market is big but it is not a successful one .


I am waiting for you to show me how Nigeria border affects Ghanaian economy.

Obaaderemi2:
Brother, you are not getting it. It happened inside Ghana and was targetted at Nigerians. It's like the Ghana Must Go debacle which also happened inside Nigeria and was targetted at ghanaians.

Border closure happened between Nigeria and neighbouring countries. Ghana is not Nigeria's neighbor. There are two countries between them. Ghana wasn't supposed to catch that kind of cold but it did and your minister was begging.

But Nigeria with fewer shops than lebanese in Ghana saw closing of their shops as a bigger threat when they can easily flew back to Nigeria in less than one hour to continue their business . They have to a power team heading by a while minister of representatives.

You closed your border , Ghana only lost Nigeria market , we close Nigeria shops we have locked down many household means of surviving . One is definitely a bigger blow. Solve the riddles.

Obaaderemi2:
Both kenya and ghana are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things in Africa. The big boys are South Africa, Nigeria and Egypt. Know this and have peace.

The united state president choosen Ghana over Nigeria when visiting sub suharan africa has systemically shows who is who . It is about the numbers

Obaaderemi2:
Your minister was begging Nigeria to reopen the borders. That's different from ghanaians closing shops belonging to Nigerian traders inside Ghana. Ghana does not even share borders with Nigeria, yet your minister was begging.

why gbajabiamila ( Nigeria house of representatives leaders) had move a whole envoy to Ghana jubliee house to meditate on the shops lockdown . How do you see that. We are talking about envoys on behalf of Nigerian. Our minister was only using his voice note a team . Nigeria came with a team to beg

The Minister is only doing the same work Nigeria gbajabiamila came to do earlier, the only difference is , he is not doing it aggressively like gbajabiamila

Obaaderemi2:

All this are diplomatic means to cushion the effect on informal sector that has Nigeria market as their target .


Something similar was raised by gbajabiamila ( Nigeria former house of representatives leaders when some nigerians shops were under lock in Ghana.

Even gbajabiamila has to come to Ghana. To engaged in diplomatic begging . Or you want to me to post you the article .

vankelvin:
You don't need to lie to feel good okay
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probably the guy didn't know much more about French west africa country

Obaaderemi2:
Delusion. They fear Nigerians. Why don't they fear ghanaians? Nobody needs to project Nigeria over other West African countries, other West African countries including Ghana already live under Nigeria's shadows. Nigeria sneezes, you all catch a cold, as a popular West Africa saying goes.

We have more Nigerian companies operating in Ghana than Ghanaian companies here. People Know more about Nigeria than Ghana. You once had a tenth of your population living in Nigeria. One can go on and on. We understand you have to defend your country but delusion have limits.

You Know i stopped taking you ghanaiains seriously when you argued that television was older in Ghana than in Nigeria. Always arguing blindly.

Another bullshit from insane nigerians. Even your border closure didn't affect Benin republic ( the most projected country you guys say will feel the effect , it is rather on the opposite . Many nigerians doing inter country buisness were forced to look for alternative and become jobless.

Benin was still able continue with civil salary payment ( it wasn't so in some state in Nigeria.

Benin was still able to continue with some infrastructure ( yet some Nigeria big project were abandoned along the line .

CFA has gain more value that naira over the past two years now .


When Nigeria sneeze , it catches cold alone pls

theenchanter:
Ghana is lord over Nigeria, pls. Accept and move on.😌

why are you always insecure whenever Nigeria giant of african "notice me " is question. This a broadcasting channel, you should take everything here with a pinch of salt

GeneralDae:
Well, we are all in this Africa. I don't know how special the leadership and Governance of Sychelles, Mauritius, Tunisia, Rwanda, Ivorycoast, and Ghana is that makes them stand out.

Brand finance themselves offered a disclaimer that their list should not be used in any form of research.

That's why Leadership and Governance in this context is subjective. Soft power can only be based on real tangible things we can measure across board.

Have you read those research and methodologies involved.
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Anyway some of those country up there are already a developed country ."Sychelles, Mauritius", this systematically tell you you one enjoy better governance in those country compare to what is obtainable here .

GeneralDae:
Okay cool, although brand finance speaks of Sychelles, Mauritius, Rwanda, Tunisia, Ivorycoast, Ghana as countries with this so called soft power.

So I'm asking: What are the metrics for it or on what basis was their experiment conducted, since it wasn't clearly about financial institutions?

why don't you read about their methodologies . It is available online. Governance and leadership is pact of their factor. You can go read about it . It is an extensive research document.

GeneralDae:
You said Ghana is influential because it has Finance Brands. That was how we got into this argument.

You then went on to list some of those Finance brands that makes Ghana influential. GCB, Engineering and Planning, Zoom lion are some of them according to you and you implied they are worth over 1 Billion dollars which is why they are top financial brands making Ghana influential in Africa.

You brought this argument up, not me.

It is because you are not reading my write-up with an open mind. I said brand finance , a reputable financial institution that rated values of nation rated Ghana as one of the influential country in africa ( Nigeria and kenya aren't even consider). That is my point . It is not about financial brand located in Ghana at all. It is you who is not reading or has another subjective mind .

And because I wasn't getting the question you raised , I suggest you are trying to know how some Ghanaian company are wealthy. I try listing some that comes up my mind. I actually don't know you didn't not know brand finance is a global organization and not peculiar to Ghana . You were actually comparing what those not exist .

GeneralDae:
1.6 Billion dollars general capital assets is too small to be anything influential in Africa.

you aren't making sense man, having influence is not about highest capital market . Why are you comparing Orange's with banana. If there is anything Nigeria has over Ghana . It will be population only and that affect the size of his market and not because the former is more successful or more influential than the later , I can argue it is even the other way round .

GeneralDae:
The market cap of GCB (one of Ghana's biggest bank) is 848 million cedis (84 million dollars). So what are you arguing again?

you are talking stock market , I am telling you about general capital assets of the bank .

GeneralDae:
Asset is different from market cap. For instance, total Bank assets in Nigeria is over 70 trillion naira (140 Billion dollars) and still increasing but the highest market cap of any Bank in Nigeria is that of Zenith Bank at about 1.7 Billion dollars (or 1 trillion naira).

it depends , it sometime computed as total assets minus total liabilities . So you will see in some organization , market cap can be more than total value of the shares if the shares is trading well

GeneralDae:
Countries seek for interventions all the time. Even Benin Republic once sort for Rwanda's intervention on their national security.

You seek for a well developed intervention . Not just seeking from any country but seeking from country that has perfected it well.

GeneralDae:
Mahama/Mahama's brother, kini big deal?

Send me the link to read all you've claimed.

it is a serious big deal because mahama is a politician and the other one is a business man.

This is a non bias link . As at January this year , they are worth more than 1.4 billion dollars and you know cedis has gain value for the past one month now

GeneralDae:
You got jokes. As at June 16 2023, the market cap of GCB was 848 million cedis.

I know Engineer and Planners is owned by mahama. I saw it on their Website. Give me the link that states how much it's worth.

engineer and planners is not owned by mahama , it is owned by mahama brother . Spot the difference . They are into mining , you should know such industry are capital intensive .

Yes GCB is worth more than 2 billion dollar capitalization . I will send you a link to read if you are willing

Just40:
Influence is also about politics, diplomacy and policies

Your understanding of influence is infantile

He is looking into the population i guess . Ghana is quite small but it has influence africa politics from independence.

GeneralDae:
You are funny. GCB is a state owned Bank but I don't think it's worth 1 Billion dollars. It's market cap on the Ghanaian stock exchange (GSE) is just 848 million cedis (84 million dollars).

Engineers and planners, I can't find any information as to what it's worth.

Zoomlion is a Chinese company except you have another Zoomlion we don't know about.

Zoom lion is an indigenous Ghanaian company , probably you are surving the internet wrongly . They are into managing waste .


GCB probably worth more than two billion dollars ( you will need to go checked their market capitalization .

Engineer and planners are into mining of gold and diamond . It is owned by former president brother ( john mahama

GeneralDae:
What are those big Ghanaian finance brands?

I actually don't know what you are saying . But this are some Ghanaian company worth billion of dollars. GCB, engineer and planners , zoom lion and some few I can't remember for now


Finance brand is a reputable global organization , they do rank and value the worth of every organization.amd nations. Go read about them and check there methodologies

Shaytun:
Please stop embarrassing yourself.

What brand does Ghana have that influences anything in Africa.

Nigerian Brands have more influence in Ghana than Ghanaian Brands.

A reputable organization called brand finance says Ghana is more influential than Nigeria . I didn't say so . So don't be too stupid to fight the organization and not vaxx.

Your second paragraph is actually from your anus not your brain anyway .

This is a global soft power index for 2023 ....

GeneralDae:
That's cool but that doesn't signify much in terms of influence/relevance in Africa.
Ethiopia is home to the AU and was never colonised but how relevant is Ethiopia in Africa? Even in East Africa, many would consider Kenya more influential than Ethiopia.

Influence is mostly about Economy, Military, and spread of your culture.

Ghana is doing well but she is not even the most influential in English speaking West Africa. Ivorycoast is the most influential French speaking West African country and Nigeria is still the most influential English speaking West African country.

Kenya is the most influential East African Country just like South Africa in Southern Africa. Egypt is the top dog in North Africa.

Economic ranking, Military ranking, and Cultural spread in that order are the three topmost metrics to guage influence/relevance here.

kwame Nkrumah gave emperor salasi of ethiopia Ghana right then . Ghana was condition to host the Africa Union after it was fought by kwame himself ( uniting african) the headquarter was given to ethiopia but on a negotiations ground , kwame Nkrumah handed it over to ethiopia. This is a fact that you can read about online.

Influence is mostly about economic , governance and leadership and when you are factoring this aforementioned stastics , a reputable financial institution like ""brand finance"" raised Ghana among the top 10 most influential country in africa ( Nigeria and kenya are missing in the spot ) they don't even qualify. south africa and Morocco comes first and second respectively.


Let's start from brand finance first .

AfriqueDuZuid:
Not really Ghana soft power is irrelevant in grand scale of things

it is either you are suffering from cognitive underload or you are not learning at all. Four nation strive in hosting the afcta headquarter and it eventually lands on the feet of Ghanaian and you called that irrelevant? You must be abussing borncleer ( aka Codeine syrup )

AfriqueDuZuid:
Ghana influence died in the 60s

This is moronic. Just of recent , she was able to struggle with Kenya , Rwanda and ethiopia in hosting afcta headquarter and she won. That is to tell you the essence of her soft power and influence among the community of nations. Ghana was able to influence the rest of them to vote for hosting right.

Kazikazi:
Yes Saudi Arabia and Qatar are religious and their religion gave them a hard stance on issues of gays and lesbians. China isn't as religious like Saudi but they are valuing their traditions and culture hence they're strong.
But these other African nations together with India are weak.They have nothing they stand for. They can be tossed around by any global powers and they will bend. The US knows that,that's why they they busy enforcing their agenda on these weak nations.
Why can't they try it in Cuba?

I do not consider india to be a weak Nation . Western nation are targeting influence not necessarily strength . India is now the most populated country and also the largest country practising democracy in likes with the western standard . It is surely a good option for the west in spreading their agenda.

AfriqueDuZuid:
Ghana does not have influence in Africa, stop chest beating!

Nigeria yes

on grand scale of things Ghana is nowhere to be seen

This is because you are a poor student . No well read african student will type this if he had read well about african politics and her influence .

You ask for a fact I gave you, instead of you to work toward it and debunk it if possible , you come up with a jab like an ignorance who is not ready to learn .

Kazikazi:
They are looking at weak spots or weak nations maybe.

Imagine,the same US don't force Saudi Arabia to do those shit story of lgbtq

The same US don't force Qatar to do those shit,even when they played world cup,the same western nations obeyed Qatar's laws and culture

But in Africa,they are forcing it

These country you are mentioning are extremely religious . 100 percent muslim , they even derive their own state law based on islamic principle . It is not a Western standard , this nation can't easily influence anything, they are aware . They are on the neck of india as powerful she is since they know she is western like country.

gallivant:
Your obsession with countries greater than Ghana is well documented. Just pointing it out hobbit .

kenya surely isn't part of those anyway idiot

AfriqueDuZuid:
Specifics please

Politics in what?
Sport in what?
Cinemas in what?
Music where?

Are you a neonate? Anyway for a starter like you. Ghana politically influence africa union and it was part of her agenda to unify africa that is on longer run. When you get to ethiopia , you will see Ghanaian first president status standing tall directly towards the Africa union house . They have choose to honor only him for such prestige .

We will deal with the rest after one another

gallivant:
He said Uganda not Kenya. Try to focus your arguments.

idiot , it is a much broader explanation to let him know that even kenya with a much more bigger begging bowl wasn't forced on the neck for implementation of lgbtq like Ghana