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MrBrownJay1:
furthermore, asking polygamous men if they would let their wives have multiple husband is unintelligent. polygamous men look for multiple women to be with ONE husband, just like polyandrous women look for multiple men to be with ONE WIFE. these are two different set of people, with two different mindset. same as your pastor wouldnt agree that you go follow another church, although there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that..

Even you know that you are very very WRONG for the test of Truth of good/rght and evil/wrong is to reverse that thing which is said to be good or evil and apply it to other opposing party to see if he would call it good or evil when it is done to.him exactly as we know that stealing is evil because even thief when he was stolen from also confesses that.stealing is evil.

So, i am right to test all the polygamous minded husbands and as is proven, they.have already refused to let their fellow human being with the same human rights to do that which they say, is good.

CLEARLY PROVING THAT POLYGAMY IS EVIL.

MrBrownJay1:
who made you judge and jury on who is a true god and who is not?

Do we not judge and jury everything in this world whether it is about pastors or politicians or paternity issues or cheating spouses nepa tarrif hike?

Even you right now, are you not judging me that i should not judge other people who live differently?

Please, if you do not like judgments then you would have to stay away from social discussions.

Steep:
I pray God open your eyes and forgive you.

He will.

But i dont know what to pray for you for you sound like one who God cut off like Esau, Saul,Solomon, Judas iscariot etc and clearly i can see that it is because God has seen that you are unrepentantly wicked and very evil.

MrBrownJay1:
so when buddhists say there is only ONE TRUE GOD,

Let's not care what anyone says about their religious preferences or inclnings. The most important thing is that we know how to judge what things are good and right or evil wrong.

And the topic is about the rightness and wrongness of a person marrying again , while already married Polygamy/Polyandry,

Steep:
see how you are dribbling yourself. Confused one.

See how you are dribbling yourself because you now see that you are a liar and a devil for the topic is clearly posted om the header and introductory post. But because you are a devil you started seeing what you wanted to see.

Cursed are you and you shall die in your evils.

Steep:
see your life now, so it is now God can use anyone qualified, no longer God can use anyone. You guys are bunch of liars.
you are confused as truespeak.

Wow, you have become a serpent and atheist playing in the darkness of ambiguity, whereas everyone knows that God can use anyone or thing https://www.nairaland.com/7653054/god-use-anything-anyone-bless#122513019

And God won't just use anyone as proven by His Laws eg it is only the Levites who enter into His Sanctuary to do His Service and not just anyone.

You have become an evil and you already know what happens to people who become evil.

And I see now it is you Jesusjnr or so was referring to when he was saying that some people believe in Paul even over and above Jesus Christ because you are a devil

God can never be deceived no devil can ever escape His Wrath

Steep:
ok explain what he meant.

I had the inteepretation of anyone qualified to be used by God eg like God used Samuel even ad a child, same as He used Deborah, and same as He used Moses.

Steep:
what was the topic again? Was it not about leadership in church and home?

Nope.

It is about leadership/oppression of women as done by the man in that position of leader, which includes everyone who leads whether king or bishop or coach or husband or wife who is the leader.

MrBrownJay1:
i fully disagree with what you are saying.... but for the sake of this discussion, let me help you a bit:
do you know that there are religion out there (under that same ONE TRUE GOD notion) that fully allow polyandry... aka Buddhism

And it does not matter for i have just pointed out how we all know Who is The True God via the fact no one in any place in the world says that doing evil and wickedness is good nor do they live according to that Law!

So, now what people say in reference to their.religious preferrance or inclination is out.

MrBrownJay1:
there is a huge difference between having difference of interpretation of that said holybook AND doing whats right or wrong. if you are now saying that so long as its "good" then anyone can interpret the words of that said holybook as they wish, then anyone can now say:" there is nothing wrong with a woman having multiple husbands (because its a good thing) and make it their religious way of life.

furthermore: many will claim (after reading the bible) that its a sin to have more than one wife, while others will claim it aint. are you now claiming that your ONE TRUE GOD doesnt have a set notion of whats right and whats wrong? many believe that its right to kill sinners, while others say its wrong. who is therefore right? but better yet, what is the need for a set law if anyone can do what the hell they please (and claim its rightful to them)?

That is why i said
"Every interpretation falls on the ground of our universal and general knowledge of good and evil, for.God has done it, that upon just and fair and reasonable argument, if a view/interpretaion is right and good, it will stand no mattter the fire of examination and re-examination that is brought on it, hence the statement "Truth grows and shines under the fire of crossexamination"
But if is wrong and evil, THEY MUST FALL,hence the importance of valid and lawful arguments."

So, let us play judge, lawyer and Court fot already, i have put it before advocates of polygamy that since polygamy is not wrong, have they and shall they allow their wives to marry other husbands, since both of them are human beings with the same human rights.

And all of them have run away

So, clearly, the idea of polygamy is not a good thing

Steep:
I spoke the truth, when you said God can use "anyone" how do you now change the meaning of "anyone"?
No every learner Christian does not know what you mean by "anyone"?
There are guidelines on choosing an elder or bishop in the church not just anyone one can become an elder or a pastor.
Don't get me wrong I don't think a woman can never ever be a leader in church but not over a man. The role is primarily for men and a man should never be side stepped for a woman that is what Paul meant by usurped authority over a man.

Ahan na! Truespeak did not mention anything about bishop, elder and pastor, it was you who tried narrowing it to these people.

Steep:
changing and twisting words so fast. Hahaha so anyone is no longer anyone?

Stop pretending. You knew what he meant.

Kobojunkie:
Adam was not given dominion over his wife. Rather, he was cursed to rule over her in marriage only, ..

To rule over another na curse? Is there any madness that you cannot utter?

Steep:
if a woman is righteous she would know that she ought to submit to the leadership of her husband..

If a woman is righteous, and her husband is equally righteous, then "The Law of Submit ye one to another" will be in full effect.

But if she is righteouser than her husband, her husband will submit to her. And knowing this would happen is why 99% of men run away from a woman who is righteous.

Or the most common thing is that they try and force her to make the mistake of dropping her up-rightness, so that they can be higher and better than her.

MrBrownJay1:
1st you have to understand that there are countless of gods out there, and nobody can claim who is the righteous one with the ultimate message

There is only One God. But we have people who may be referring to the same God in their different languages vs those who have exercised their power to reject God and choose other things as their god.

But the Supremacy of God is seen that no place or people in the world says that doing evil and wickedness is good nor do they live according to that Law.

So, dont muddle up the argument.

MrBrownJay1:
2nd even people who read the exact same holybook (like the bible fr example), cannot make up their mind about what its true word is... mormon say one thing, jehovah witness another, catholic their own version etc etc...

talking about "standard of rightfullness" when talking about religion is a huge mistake. especially when everyone can decide/interpret what the words of that said bible means (as they wish). is it not the exact same holybook with the exact same words that they all read but bend its meaning as they wish? so let us not play holy and come here pretending that there is only ONE standard that fits all.

Every interpretation falls on the ground of our universal knowledge of good and evil, for.God has done it, that upon just and fair and reasonable argument, if a view/interpretaion is right and good, it will stand no mattter the fire of examination and re-examination that is brought on it, hence the statement "Truth grows and shines under the fire of crossexamination"

But if is wrong and evil, THEY MUST FALL,hence the importance of valid and lawful arguments.

Sapasenator:
How come, David a polygamous man, was a man after God's hearth?

How come, Jesus came from the lineage of a polygamous David.

What you do is more powerful than what you say.

How come Jacob was polygamous and the 12 tribes of Israel came from a polygamous family.

Remember, I am God, I change not!

Did you not see that God honoured David when he did very well and brought him low to great disgrace when he messed?

Or did you see Jacob say, he shall have 2 ir more wives?

Please, invalid argument

ISelectMySins:
Patronize me? Don't patronize me; just thank your saviour.

You should be especially thankful to Christ who has redeemed female nature from the rule and scourging whip of the law. As the old Rabbis would often say - thank you God for making me a man and not a woman, a Jews and not a gentile, a...

Meaning you have no counter, so you are talking off point!

FxMasterz:
The question you responded to, did it ask you only about normal people?

The question has allready answered you and it did not ask about mentally retarded 4 year olds. So, you don't have anything to say.

Steep:
christ have the power to dominate us but he does not do so, the same thing with a husband though he has authority over his wife but he does not dominatinate her, this is kingdom leadership. Leadership in the kingdom is an opportunity to serve and self sacrifice, it is not an opportunity for oppression and dominating.
The leadership of the world is not the example a Christian should follow but christ.

Because dominate is mostly used negatively because 98% of politicians, husbands, chuch leaders, employers are all evil leaders, so you do not appreciate that dominate means

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verb
have power and influence over.

And power and influenced can exerted in a goodly way.

So blame the evil leaders and not the word "dominate"

Blakjewelry:
Why was it stated that women shouldn't speak in church according to Corinthians 14:34–35.
Abi you want make begin bring tons version to show you that women are relegated to the background?

Read my answer to the Op. Woman was the first to sin and God has a thing for first, so obviously God is very very much annoyed with her and has not forgiven her for betraying Him.

So, like a wife who had cheated, He cannot bear her in His presence. And that is why He Spoke only to men

Steep:
That is for world leadership not Christian leadership.

Matthew 20:25 But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.

20:26 But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;

20:27 And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:

20:28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

True! But i think ye appreciate that the domination by politicians cannot be compared to the sweet and gentle and friendly domination which christ exerted over His disciples hence the parable of the servant who treated his fellow seevants wickedly and harshly. Mathew 24:48-51

Truth is Leaders have power and they dominate (rule) but, there are good leaders and 98% of people are evil leaders, both male and female.

FRANCISTOWN:
If the men are stupid enough, why can't a woman marry 3 husbands?
As long as she would pay the bride price of the three. Feed the three and take up their responsibilities and of the kids. Why not?
She'll become the head of the house now.

And i say to any wife whose husband has married a second wife or more, know ye this day that you have right to marry a second and third husband.

And if your husband complains about it and sues you, call me. You will get free law representation save cost of process and transportstion.

Blakjewelry:
It doesn't need to explicitly spell it out, you can see that all the importance task are assign to men, we are talking about intentions here.

It clearly spelt it out that we had dominion ovet the earth.

Anyway, i have explained, in answer to the op why and what basis there is an imbalance and inequality.

MrBrownJay1:
it all depends who you ask, but its obvious that some women today are married to multiple husbands and there is nothing wrong with that.
so to these people, polygamy is equal whether for men or women.

here is the NL thread about the women married to 3 husbands: https://www.nairaland.com/7626342/video-woman-happily-flaunts-three

Now you based "nothing wrong" on your personal opinion, whereas this thread is based on the.standard of rightfullness especially that based on God!

FxMasterz:
Yes, I remembered all classes of people, that's why I said people develop at different paces, so age of accountability cannot be uniform for all. God knows at what stage He should hold each person accountable for his/her actions.

Lying yet again for this statement came up because of i was addressing normal people when you said

FxMasterz:
Does that not justify my saying that people develop at different paces and therefore cannot be treated the same way....

Which i answered
Veecruz
Have you seen this heavy scrutiny happen to a child below 5?

But by 7 every normal person.is already a subject of inquisition and scrutiny for their action as proven by the fact that most children with still grew through nursery and primary school together with their age mates despite the different cognitive abilities. So there is nothing.separating anyone from lyability based on cognitive difference.

As i said, you do not have any valid thing to say..

You are just repeating yourself in your bid to redeem yourself and you dont have valid thing to say.

Gift96:
Where did you see the Bible say a man does not dominate woman?

Why be so childish to do a fallacy of reversing the burden? Or are you younger than a teenager?

The bible Said
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, [b]nor is there male and female, for you are all one [/b]in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

So keep your lies and childish behaviour with you.

gohf:
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Being under a son of God is dominion, being a wife to a child of the devil can be oppression.

"can be oppression"?
Why are ye afraid to speak Truth fully?

Speak the whole Truth and shame the evil,

"being a wife/child/employee to a child of the devil is be oppression and torture and suffering"

Steep:
So many errors and twisting in order to advance an agenda.
Abeg where was it written that the earth would struggle under Adam? Or is it not that Adam will toil and the earth would not yield its strength?

Do people struggle to feed?

Steep:
The error in this taught process is the view that leadership is about dominating others...

A Leader dominates.

PulsingPurple:
Do we see that this is where God finally gives man dominion over woman?
Wait, that's a lie! God didn't do that.
He actually instilled in the woman the desire to have/be with a husband, and then gave the husband dominion over the wife.

This is not dominion, this is just a Curse.

The Curse of needing a man and bending to a man because she sinned first, which as you see, is all over the place.

But, if you have seen and met a righteous woman, she does not pursue a man nor does any man have power over her.

Rather, it is she who has dominion and authority over sinfuller men.

PulsingPurple:
It is here that we see an introduction to huge changes that shifts the Dominion Balance.
The man and woman still have dominion over Earth, but the Earth has been commanded to struggle with the man in particular, the Earth has been ordered to stress him up before feeding him.

Is the earth not also harsh to the woman as it is to the man?

In fact is that not one of the reasons a woman seeks a man to partner with?

Gift96:
It's not just because the Bible has apportioned dominance, it's because nature has deem it fit that way. Feminism is against NATURE

Where did you see the bible say a man dominates a woman?

PulsingPurple:
Did God Actually Give Man Dominion Over Woman?
Did God Tell Males To Dominate The Females?
Are Men Overdoing Themselves And Exerting Unnecessary Authority Over Women?

No, He did not!

The only reason is that because "sin lowers a person" And woman was the first to sin. And God has a thing about firsts, so she got greatly lowered.

Atop all these, women have a great many more sins than a man and that is why they became less than men.

But, if you see or meet a true holy and rigteous woman, you would see that no man is greater than her, and infact she will be greater than any man who is less righteous than her. And it is such women, men hate to court and marry because the woman makes them "feel less than a man" as they have confessed,

And this is where many of such women made a great mistake.