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LordReed:
How do you know something non-physical and invisible exists? How do you detect it or acquire knowledge about it?

So, you do not deny the definition, right?

KnownUnknown:
Lol, your definition is meaningless. Now try to present a sand, reasonable, and valid definition.

Saying it is meaningless without showing how and why it is meaningless just proves that it is not meaningless and that you really had nothing valid and reasonable to say.

And that explains why you ran away from here until i prompted you.

So in the end you know you are the speaking rubbish and basenone nonsense against God and Christians

So back to the argument and attack it properly, sanely, reasonably and validly, if you can!

KnownUnknown:
Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

Spirit is the none physical and invisible part of a man and animals in layman's terms.

AbuTwins:
Just as the one you brought is a fake Muslim too you are using for propaganda!

Off point. The topic is not about fake or real muslims/pastors nor about fake pastor crossing over to your side.

So, clearly, you cannot validly counter.the Point. Shikena!

AbuTwins:
Show me where it is directed to Christians by Jesus in the Bible?

You are just creating a nuisance out of yourself!

You are the one making a nuisance of yourself. What else is the Nicea council about and isnt the subject matter of discuss about Christianity?

When your Islamic council comment about islam, is it directed to Christians?

You are the one nuisancing yourself.

AbuTwins:
Okay here is a video of a Pastor reverting to Islam when he say the wisdom in it and closing down all 8 locations of his churches around New York last June 26, 2023
He even converted 12 Pastors with him! grin

So the Qur'an sure has wisdom. How am I a liar again?

Off point. The topic is not about a fake pastor crossing over to your side and you are a liar for you already know that the bible is full of wisdoms which is why you people duplicated and doctored it according to your propanganda and you people always seek to align your doctored book with our bible.

AbuTwins:
This discussion here is about trinity. And we still await anyone to give us Directs proofs for trinity in the Bible!
You can create your thread on Kaaba as I did here and mentioned you!

The concept of Trinity is for christians and directed towards Christians knowing that we would understand it.

It is not for muslims and "not Christians"

sonmvayina:
"Let us make man in our own image after our likeness....the "US" there means God the father (Elu or Enu) and God the mother(Ala, Ani or the earth) the earth provided the dust and all for creating the body while God provided the spirit that animated the body.(..

See your madness is revealed! Genesis, Proverbd and John clearly show God The Father and The People around Him created the earth. So how then did the earth now become a God the mother?

AbuTwins:
Offpoints right! Okay! Show us the people who claimed the Bible has any atom of wisdom. Show us the wisdom in your Bible now. Hopefully this won't be offpoint when you have nothing to say!

It is heading out of point for you already know that you are a liar in pretending not to know that the bible is truly full of wisdom and here your muslim brother exposes your lies and blasphemy

Re: 40 Words Of Wisdom From The Bible!!! by bholuwatifhe(m): 10:24am On Sep 03, 2017

bholuwatifhe:
Actually am a Muslim but all these words are Very useful & make perfect sense

sonmvayina:
You are not well at all...I suggest you see a psychiatrist..

What have I said that is wrong or those not make sense...?

Ewobi....Agbaya....

See why you should have never been a mad person before? Your mad reputation will always follow you.

AbuTwins:
You didn't say anything about the topic! This is why many fail exams and then blame village people or call lecturer wicked!

That is you.failing your exams. For i addressed your comment as i have a right to and not the topic, as i have a right not to address the topic especially as Fv is handling it and i do not see any material thing worth correcting.

And secondly, my addressing your comment to Fx impliedly shows i addreesed the topic in support of Fx. So, you failed your exam

AbuTwins:
What people? There are people who read the Qur'an too and say the same thing! So do you agree the Qur'an has lots of wisdom?

Off point! We are talking about the bible not the quran.

And people have head/read statements from your quran and they immediately show that they are the lust fuelled desires of evil men and they copied the bible and doctored it to their own words to funnel your propanganda like the catholics doctored and replicated the bible to suit their propaganda.

But Off Point!

AbuTwins:
But your so called word of God that is consistent should not change with time.
The truth should remain as it was. God doesn't change so also his words shouldn't. How is your Bible consistent if it can have 66 books, 73 books etc? How is that consistent?

Consistency is about content and not about the lenght of the records.

AbuTwins:
I don't know why your quick to just cancel out everything I wrote. Seems you don't understand the meaning of consistency!

Rules of debate say
4) THE STANDPOINT RULE (AkA OFF POINT/GOAL POST SHIFTING RULE. THE BIGGEST VIOLATIONS ATHEIST COMMIT)

"A PARTY’S ATTACK ON A STANDPOINT MUST RELATE TO THE STANDPOINT THAT HAS INDEED BEEN ADVANCED BY THE OTHER PARTY (You cannot go off point).

So, off point arguments cannot be entertained. So stick to your argument and stand or fall by it.

AbuTwins:
The Torah contains the truth as well as what was revealed to Jesus...

So, the bible contains Truth and you truthfully found no inconsistency in it, so case closed! Thank you.

budaatum:
Looks like you have reading issues.

Compared to what the creation in God's image was meant to rule over and subdue and multiply in, any garden is obviously poxy and tiny and small.

You are the mad one, so you have every issue including reading issues and that is what madness is!

MrBrownJay1:
someone wrote about marrying a smart woman bla bla bla and i asked a simple question to know how smart people really are, but it seem nobody could answer the simple question... so let me ask this here:

A MAN GOES TO SEE HIS DOCTOR AND PAYS 120K IN TOTAL (for doctor appointment + parking). HOW MUCH DOES THE PARKING COSTS, IF KNOWING THAT THE PARKING COSTS 100K LESS THAN THE DOC APPOINTMENT?

The first problem is that this question is not real and is created to deceieve and confuse and snatch them away from real eyeity, so that they start living in delusions in danger full abandonment of real eyeity.

For when people go to the hospital, car parking is either free or you have notice of the amount you are supposed to pay for parking, even before you enter the hospital to rack up more bills.

Hence the first difficulty is trying to appreciate the question and the practical need and benefit for addressing the question.

And since there is no benefit, it would be discarded.

I now know these questions are meant to control people to act and think in a certain way rather than our earlier education which is basis was just for people to think and freely think in a practical and profitable way.

She know where she dey go if she die!

EreluRoz:
I have never believed he's an illegitimate child kos God cannot make his Prophet have an illegitimate child. I think he married her when Sarah couldn't conceive.

Hagar is the mother of Arabians

The rivalry between Sarah and Hagar is still on till today if you trace history back to the Bible

Where did you see him marry her? Slap your head to reset it.

ictplotter:
There is no rivalry between those two pius women but the Christians spreading lies because they are very gullible n lazy to read the Bible but believe every rubbish from their pastors.

So the muslims hating and murdering christians is a lie? Mtchew

ictplotter:
Hagar was given to Abraham as a legal wife not as side chic by his first wife called Sarah. Then Hagar took in and gave birth to Abraham first child called Ismael. So why the Christians telling lies that Ismael is an illegitimate son of Abraham because his mother Hagar was a side chic not Abraham wife.
Pls read Genesis 16 vs 3.

Under Law, a wife cannot marry a wife for her husband.

And The Law further says "Action does not arise from an unlawful cause/Fraud, deceit, misrepresentation, violence and duress corrupts all"

You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand.

Sorry muslim, Ishmeal is truly an unlawful and illegitimate child!

And Hagar is not a side chic, she was a prostitute hired to produce a child.

She was not even hired for sex and enotional satisfaction which is what a side chic is but for surrogacy.

This is the accurate truth!

AbuTwins:
Yes, I acknowledged that.

1. If trinity was proven according to the Bible why the need for credal debates and endorsements?

Anti Fornication, anti tattoo, anti.polygamy, anti slavery all proven to be in the bible yet people still debate about it.

There are always blind stubborn people.

The guy up na church of satan worshipper!

KnownUnknown:
If you think my Tizizi example, based on your definition of spirit, is akin to a mad person talking nonsense, then you know exactly how I feel about the things you say and believe.

I did not say your tizizi example did not speak, its you who spoke. And you spoke like one who is mad for you are a man and you know if you are a normal man that a man has a none physical and invisible side of him, as every other man has confessed.

And when you act like you.do not know what every other man knows, then it is either you are a baby, which you are not or you are mad.

And i have always pointed out that atheists are mad people and you and badatom are proving it, in the mad way you talk and behave.

So, if in deed you are not mad, speak and behave like a sane person. That is all.

budaatum:
"He" being the first humans God is written to have created in his own image, both male and female?

Definitely not in a tiny garden, since the first humans created in God's image were to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”, unless you want to argue that the sea was in the Garden of Eden.

But I guess you are one of those who believe the humans created both male and female in God's image is the Adam created from mud, despite the fact that their foods were different, with one given "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it", and Adam having the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil deducted from his food.

See how mad you are proving you are? First you, tried to dodge answering the question, Then you confess that he was in a Garden but not a tiny one. And the bible did not say it is a tiny garden.

Budaatum, the badatom, you have run mad like sonmvayina and mindhacker, and reasonable people do not relate with mad people, so Mad off!

AbuTwins:
All these can be said of many other religious books. Those opinions above are subjective. Do you have any objective opinions as to why the Bible is the word of God and how the Bible is consistent?

I told you people who read agree that they could not have come up with its Wisdom. So, it is not subjective.

AbuTwins:
Can you brief us on how the Bible came to be what it is today?

Off point.. The topic is "How is the Bible the word of God?/How is the Bible consistent?.

Not "how the Bible came to be what it is today?"

AbuTwins:
Some Bible has 66 books, some 73, some 82, 83 books etc. Explain how it is consistent?

In the preface to RSV, the 50 scholars of Divinity that wrote it accaimed that the KJV has great defects and that's what necessitates the RSV.

And KJV is the most popular and the most translated to other languages!

Off point!

AbuTwins:
So tell me how can the Bible contain any truth when even the Christian scholars/writers admit great defects in it!

The question is "does it contain any Truth!? Or do you deny that it does not contain any Truth?

budaatum:
And yet, I know a man who disagrees with you.

See how you confirm you are mad. Your response is so imsanely off point.

KnownUnknown:
That sounds like nonsense, especially given the negative definition.

Defining something as non physical and invincible is basically describing nothing.

I can borrow your definition and say Tizizi is the non physical and invincible part of a woman. Does that make any kind of sense? No

Try again.

We dont know who tzizi is but every one in the world knows who a man is.

And every one, being a man, already knows
that man has a none physical and invisible side of him.

So, again you are making yourself look like a mad person talking nonsense, in pretending not to know what every man knows up to having people who have made it their jobs to study this invisible part of man.

So, you are the one showing your foolishness.

AbuTwins:
How is the Bible the word of God?
How is the Bible consistent?

Just give verifiable proofs inside and outside the Bible!

Muslim, this is Easy na and you already know the answers!

1) Its wisdom is far and above what any man who has read it could ever have come up with.

2) it consistently speaks The Truth, even if many find it difficult to understand and comprehend.

3) it consistently annoys and angers devils because it exposed all their evil plans.

KnownUnknown:
Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

Spirit is the none physical and invisible part of a man and animals in layman's terms.

KnownUnknown:
I’m not an atheist. However, let me show you why views don’t conform with the real world.

Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

You are a God hater, therefore, you are an atheist!

So, to your question what is spirit in lay man's terms?

KnownUnknown:
I’m not an atheist. However, let me show you why views don’t conform with the real world.

Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

New Thread!

budaatum:
Your so called "free blessed Adam", who was ignorant and reduced to working in a garden instead of “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”?

May you not be demoted like Adam was, and if you are demoted (gods forbid), may you have an Eve to save you.

Where was he before he got reduced was it not the same Garden? Is it not rather that he even got reduced to go into a Cursed dry hard ground?

As i have told you, you are mad and i think yor madness has reached the level of sonmvagina and mindhacker.

budaatum:
You say this despite the fact that it is written that it is the lack of knowledge that kills?

Guess next you'd tell us scull na scam too, but hopefully only a few will heed your words.

Too many books spoil the knowledge! One good book is better than 100 books.

And that is why you can be in prisoned for spraying the money you earned like boborisky
https://www.nairaland.com/8059413/bobrisky-jailed-six-months-no#129397989

Or for criticizing tomato puree

Or murdered for running away from a mobile court over an alleged environmsntal issue