AbuTwins:


You didn't say anything about the topic! This is why many fail exams and then blame village people or call lecturer wicked!

That is you.failing your exams. For i addressed your comment as i have a right to and not the topic, as i have a right not to address the topic especially as Fv is handling it and i do not see any material thing worth correcting.

And secondly, my addressing your comment to Fx impliedly shows i addreesed the topic in support of Fx. So, you failed your exam

AbuTwins:
What people? There are people who read the Qur'an too and say the same thing! So do you agree the Qur'an has lots of wisdom?

Off point! We are talking about the bible not the quran.

And people have head/read statements from your quran and they immediately show that they are the lust fuelled desires of evil men and they copied the bible and doctored it to their own words to funnel your propanganda like the catholics doctored and replicated the bible to suit their propaganda.

But Off Point!

AbuTwins:

But your so called word of God that is consistent should not change with time.
The truth should remain as it was. God doesn't change so also his words shouldn't. How is your Bible consistent if it can have 66 books, 73 books etc? How is that consistent?

Consistency is about content and not about the lenght of the records.

AbuTwins:

I don't know why your quick to just cancel out everything I wrote. Seems you don't understand the meaning of consistency!

Rules of debate say
4) THE STANDPOINT RULE (AkA OFF POINT/GOAL POST SHIFTING RULE. THE BIGGEST VIOLATIONS ATHEIST COMMIT)

"A PARTY’S ATTACK ON A STANDPOINT MUST RELATE TO THE STANDPOINT THAT HAS INDEED BEEN ADVANCED BY THE OTHER PARTY (You cannot go off point).

So, off point arguments cannot be entertained. So stick to your argument and stand or fall by it.

AbuTwins:

The Torah contains the truth as well as what was revealed to Jesus...

So, the bible contains Truth and you truthfully found no inconsistency in it, so case closed! Thank you.

budaatum:


Looks like you have reading issues.

Compared to what the creation in God's image was meant to rule over and subdue and multiply in, any garden is obviously poxy and tiny and small.

You are the mad one, so you have every issue including reading issues and that is what madness is!

MrBrownJay1:
someone wrote about marrying a smart woman bla bla bla and i asked a simple question to know how smart people really are, but it seem nobody could answer the simple question... so let me ask this here:

A MAN GOES TO SEE HIS DOCTOR AND PAYS 120K IN TOTAL (for doctor appointment + parking). HOW MUCH DOES THE PARKING COSTS, IF KNOWING THAT THE PARKING COSTS 100K LESS THAN THE DOC APPOINTMENT?

The first problem is that this question is not real and is created to deceieve and confuse and snatch them away from real eyeity, so that they start living in delusions in danger full abandonment of real eyeity.

For when people go to the hospital, car parking is either free or you have notice of the amount you are supposed to pay for parking, even before you enter the hospital to rack up more bills.

Hence the first difficulty is trying to appreciate the question and the practical need and benefit for addressing the question.

And since there is no benefit, it would be discarded.

I now know these questions are meant to control people to act and think in a certain way rather than our earlier education which is basis was just for people to think and freely think in a practical and profitable way.

She know where she dey go if she die!

EreluRoz:
I have never believed he's an illegitimate child kos God cannot make his Prophet have an illegitimate child. I think he married her when Sarah couldn't conceive.

Hagar is the mother of Arabians

The rivalry between Sarah and Hagar is still on till today if you trace history back to the Bible

Where did you see him marry her? Slap your head to reset it.

ictplotter:

There is no rivalry between those two pius women but the Christians spreading lies because they are very gullible n lazy to read the Bible but believe every rubbish from their pastors.

So the muslims hating and murdering christians is a lie? Mtchew

ictplotter:
Hagar was given to Abraham as a legal wife not as side chic by his first wife called Sarah. Then Hagar took in and gave birth to Abraham first child called Ismael. So why the Christians telling lies that Ismael is an illegitimate son of Abraham because his mother Hagar was a side chic not Abraham wife.
Pls read Genesis 16 vs 3.

Under Law, a wife cannot marry a wife for her husband.

And The Law further says "Action does not arise from an unlawful cause/Fraud, deceit, misrepresentation, violence and duress corrupts all"

You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stand.

Sorry muslim, Ishmeal is truly an unlawful and illegitimate child!

And Hagar is not a side chic, she was a prostitute hired to produce a child.

She was not even hired for sex and enotional satisfaction which is what a side chic is but for surrogacy.

This is the accurate truth!

AbuTwins:


Yes, I acknowledged that.

1. If trinity was proven according to the Bible why the need for credal debates and endorsements?

Anti Fornication, anti tattoo, anti.polygamy, anti slavery all proven to be in the bible yet people still debate about it.

There are always blind stubborn people.

The guy up na church of satan worshipper!

KnownUnknown:

If you think my Tizizi example, based on your definition of spirit, is akin to a mad person talking nonsense, then you know exactly how I feel about the things you say and believe.

I did not say your tizizi example did not speak, its you who spoke. And you spoke like one who is mad for you are a man and you know if you are a normal man that a man has a none physical and invisible side of him, as every other man has confessed.

And when you act like you.do not know what every other man knows, then it is either you are a baby, which you are not or you are mad.

And i have always pointed out that atheists are mad people and you and badatom are proving it, in the mad way you talk and behave.

So, if in deed you are not mad, speak and behave like a sane person. That is all.

budaatum:


"He" being the first humans God is written to have created in his own image, both male and female?

Definitely not in a tiny garden, since the first humans created in God's image were to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”, unless you want to argue that the sea was in the Garden of Eden.

But I guess you are one of those who believe the humans created both male and female in God's image is the Adam created from mud, despite the fact that their foods were different, with one given "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it", and Adam having the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil deducted from his food.

See how mad you are proving you are? First you, tried to dodge answering the question, Then you confess that he was in a Garden but not a tiny one. And the bible did not say it is a tiny garden.

Budaatum, the badatom, you have run mad like sonmvayina and mindhacker, and reasonable people do not relate with mad people, so Mad off!

AbuTwins:

All these can be said of many other religious books. Those opinions above are subjective. Do you have any objective opinions as to why the Bible is the word of God and how the Bible is consistent?

I told you people who read agree that they could not have come up with its Wisdom. So, it is not subjective.

AbuTwins:

Can you brief us on how the Bible came to be what it is today?

Off point.. The topic is "How is the Bible the word of God?/How is the Bible consistent?.

Not "how the Bible came to be what it is today?"

AbuTwins:

Some Bible has 66 books, some 73, some 82, 83 books etc. Explain how it is consistent?

In the preface to RSV, the 50 scholars of Divinity that wrote it accaimed that the KJV has great defects and that's what necessitates the RSV.

And KJV is the most popular and the most translated to other languages!

Off point!

AbuTwins:

So tell me how can the Bible contain any truth when even the Christian scholars/writers admit great defects in it!

The question is "does it contain any Truth!? Or do you deny that it does not contain any Truth?

budaatum:


And yet, I know a man who disagrees with you.

See how you confirm you are mad. Your response is so imsanely off point.

KnownUnknown:


That sounds like nonsense, especially given the negative definition.

Defining something as non physical and invincible is basically describing nothing.

I can borrow your definition and say Tizizi is the non physical and invincible part of a woman. Does that make any kind of sense? No

Try again.

We dont know who tzizi is but every one in the world knows who a man is.

And every one, being a man, already knows
that man has a none physical and invisible side of him.

So, again you are making yourself look like a mad person talking nonsense, in pretending not to know what every man knows up to having people who have made it their jobs to study this invisible part of man.

So, you are the one showing your foolishness.

AbuTwins:


How is the Bible the word of God?
How is the Bible consistent?

Just give verifiable proofs inside and outside the Bible!

Muslim, this is Easy na and you already know the answers!

1) Its wisdom is far and above what any man who has read it could ever have come up with.

2) it consistently speaks The Truth, even if many find it difficult to understand and comprehend.

3) it consistently annoys and angers devils because it exposed all their evil plans.

KnownUnknown:

Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

Spirit is the none physical and invisible part of a man and animals in layman's terms.

KnownUnknown:


I’m not an atheist. However, let me show you why views don’t conform with the real world.

Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

You are a God hater, therefore, you are an atheist!

So, to your question what is spirit in lay man's terms?

KnownUnknown:


I’m not an atheist. However, let me show you why views don’t conform with the real world.

Tell me in layman’s language, what is a spirit?

New Thread!

budaatum:

Your so called "free blessed Adam", who was ignorant and reduced to working in a garden instead of “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”?

May you not be demoted like Adam was, and if you are demoted (gods forbid), may you have an Eve to save you.

Where was he before he got reduced was it not the same Garden? Is it not rather that he even got reduced to go into a Cursed dry hard ground?

As i have told you, you are mad and i think yor madness has reached the level of sonmvagina and mindhacker.

budaatum:

You say this despite the fact that it is written that it is the lack of knowledge that kills?

Guess next you'd tell us scull na scam too, but hopefully only a few will heed your words.

Too many books spoil the knowledge! One good book is better than 100 books.

And that is why you can be in prisoned for spraying the money you earned like boborisky
https://www.nairaland.com/8059413/bobrisky-jailed-six-months-no#129397989

Or for criticizing tomato puree

Or murdered for running away from a mobile court over an alleged environmsntal issue

Whereas, we can see that God gave all reasonable men jurisdiction to hear and determine any matter or dispute which they see or hear, hence the origin and jurisdiction of the jury system of judgment.

For tbe jury system is supposed to be the convening of The Natural Law Courts where all things are judged in accordance with Natural Law and Natural Just is and Procedure by the people of the community themselves.

Which is something which resembles what we have been deceived to call democracy, but it is not democracy for democracy is a scam and a deceit doing exactly what legal did to Law.

And it is from here that communities then created their own local and native "laws' of customs and traditions that is supposed to be good for members of their community. So now we see the origin of our local traditions and custon and the power and right and jurisdiction they had to control our communities, before those white bandits came and scattered everything after they had already perfected their own established unlawfulness, came unlawfully, and unlawfully took over our lands and unlawfully ruled over us and anlawfully taught us their unlawfullness which they called democracy..

Meanwhile, The Law had Said "Action does not arise from an unlawful cause/Fraud, deceit, misrepresentation, violence and duress corrupts all"

So you see why there can never be Law and Just is in government and government institutions like the courts (from the Magistrate to supreme court) or the police or customs, firs, road safety etc?

And this where we see the origin of Natural Law Courts evilly and fearfully tagged by devils as jungle justice/ mob action.

For in that Court, devils and all lawbreakers will be found guilty.and they shall receive their due punishment for every evil they have done.

And that is why they went to create their own courts and their own fake laws called legal, both of which you see today.

Which is why their courts can never fully apply The Law nor can tbey do just is. For if Law is truly apllied, from the president or king to the politician and from the army to the police, all of them shall be declared unlawfull by The Law
"Action does not arise from an unlawful cause/Fraud corrupts all"

So you see, all the actions of.government from 1956 till date are illegal, (as legallers would shout) unlawful and null and void.

Which is everything that both the ruler and the ruled can do.can be rendered and found null and void, and there is no just is there.

oteneaaron:


Thank you for your kind words.

I agree that finding out the truth about Gnosticism is a big blessing.

If only billions of literalist Christians today could study the past and learn about the true origins of Christianity...!

Just like cooking, too many books spoil the knowledge.

Secondly, on The flood, i pointed out that the mere fact Tell magazine is older than this day newspaper does not mean its report is truer than this day's newspaper's report. So, it goes to your ability to.discern Truth, which you are deficient in.

Else you would have known that you are committing a fallacy of "it is true because it was written (hearsay even) by the Sumerians" l like the people of Summeria did not lie and cannot lie.

Truth, is Truth regardless of old age or a day old.

KnownUnknown:


Your views are contraventions of reality so they are nonsense.

Now you show that atheists are also Liars in addition to their other bad and evil qualities for this thread clearly shows i answered you.with realeeyeity and you could not answer. So you are the one who speaks nonsense.

Tourist42:

Or there is an inconsistency somewhere? Someone who always wanted to kill you , all of a sudden wants to save you. Where is d logic in dis? *One must be wrong!, de can't coexist!! One negates the other....

That is what getting played and real eyesing too late means. Is that not what you see in movies when the agent sets up a terrorists while the terrorist thought his plans was going well until he sees too late that his plans is actually the plan of the people trying to catch him?

Movies have shown you and you laugh and marvel at the outsmarting.

As i said, you are trying to blaspheme God by hiding it in questions.

KnownUnknown:


There’s nothing to answer. Your beliefs are nonsense.

You already answered showing you could not answer in showing why my beliefs are nonsense, whereas on the other hsnd you have proven that your belief, against my belief is nonsense, stupid and biased all borne out of your guilt and condemnation.

Tourist42:


This time around Satan doesn't want Christ to die??

That's what i said

"God played Satan and used his kill-kill against him, which Satan only real eyesed too late."

Same thing we see in Cain who simply pleaded The Law of Fair Hearing (Double Jeopardy) that "An accused should not be punished twice for the same offence" since God has already exercised Jurisdiction over his case, so let not man seeing or hearing about his evil act not come and also do Law upon him by killing him because they have seen and heard that he had wickedly killed his brother.

So you see God acting under Law and Procedurei

LordReed:

Story. Quote the Bible verse. LoLz.

Story! You already know the Bible clearly Said that Isreal shall be removed from the Land God gave them and they shall return to it again as we all saw happen in 1947. So, you cannot validly argue.

Tourist42:


If Satan was after Jesus' life, wat was now the wrong of Peter as he was trying to prevent the arrest of Jesus? Why would he be called "*Satan" as he wanted to stop Jesus arrest due to his care for Christ at this point?

On the surface, you see care for Christ, whereas, underneath, it is a thwarting of God's Plan as Satan has always done as i have