₦airaland Forum

Zahra29:
It requires an Act of Parliament to make these changes which isn't simple, quick or even guaranteed as it would also need to pass votes in both houses. The proposal is contentious because it would create a 2-tier citizenship framework and many would argue that it is unjust to deny settled/British citizens from access to welfare. Also it would be difficult to implement in practice - would the government allow British children to go destitute or hungry because they and their parents are in the "2nd tier of citizenship" that doesn't allow access to benefits?

Anyways, by the time the law is passed,(if it passes), a large proportion of the Boriswave would have achieved ILR under the old model and would have access to benefits - which would render the whole exercise largely pointless.

Valid points, I won't support citizenship tiers either. But I'm reading now that part of the proposal is to remove public funds for ILR holders and reserve for citizens only.

Raalsalghul:
Let me just state this here for the sake of posterity. Anybody on this group that thinks they should just accept the new terms (whether 10/15 years) and continue living your life, be ready to accept that you are not going to get that ILR. The goal post will continue to shift until it is out of your reach and impossible for you to attain.

The above is for those that think they can wing through it and continue living life.

So, all those money saved for mortgage deposit start redirecting it towards other endeavours and stop investing on British soil. Your visa fees and taxes are enough

They may change everything to rolling visas with no time to ILR. ILR will be on demand subject to certain requirements

HustlaOfLagos:


I remember when Justwise used to blame all and sundry for speaking about healthcare visas and saying Nigerians can switch to whatever career they want after 5 years even though the signs were there that the gov would soon start to target that sector.

I wonder if he still shares the same sentiment

I was among those that said this and no regrets.

Those in that route did not get there by choice, they did because it was the available option (sentiments aside, show me one person that his/her ambition in life was to leave Nigeria to do care work in UK). Saying they should bear for 5yrs and switch career after is to keep hope alive and save some from depression.

Do you really think there's someone that had a chance to switch visas but stayed because one person said 5yrs is not far?

Even the 15yrs now, some will change route, some will move to another country. For those that will remain, we will continue to give them hope.

If access to public fund/benefit is the problem, can the govt. just enact a policy to say no recourse to public funds for people that'll get ILR/citizenship by naturalization from 2025.

The freedom and liberty that comes with ILR/citizenship far outweigh the public funds.

And to be honest, this seems to be their subtle goal because they left higher rate tax payers in 5yrs knowing they will not qualify for most of the public funds.

When they say the immigrants must not be in debt to qualify, hope they are only referring to mortgage and car loan debt, not credit card or business debt.

Justwise's hatred for Trump always cloud his judgement in issues that concern Trump or America. Saying Nigerians are being killed by militants when even the deaf and blind knows that Boko Haram terrorists are behind the killings.

After being called out, went on to say they can be referred to as militants. Twisting narratives because of disdain for Trump.

Preshyi:
Hello everyone,
Please is it possible for someone that has a valid UK and US visa to come to first come to the UK from Nigeria and then travel to the US from UK. I am aware a return ticket is required for visitors visa's so not sure how to navigate this. Any suggestions will be helpful. Thanks

On the day of travel, if you are denied boarding even with evidence of onward journey, you can book a return ticket (via booking.com, they have a 24hr full refund cancellation policy), on getting to UK, cancel the return ticket.

lavida001:
the whole we be world citizen na nonsense. Hopping from one country to another looking for best life isn’t sustainable. If you continue running one day there will be null option left but to look back and head home.

Some will say they are doing it for their kids whom most of the time won’t care about you as soon as they are on their own.

If you can japa pls do but it’s not sustainable and it’s becoming a lot difficult. Even Au have their own far right advocating for their country back.

Can you ever make a post without lacing it with going back home? You're now sounding stale and monotonous. You need self reflection trust me.

gabiomoesu:
@Brine

Thanks very much for your answers. I really appreciate it!

Godenoch's right indeed. It's getting a bit sensitive. I've tried to PM you earlier but I think I've lost access to the email associated with this moniker. If you’re cool with it, I can send you my Discord tag (or Telegram link) on a dead thread. That way we can chat move the convo away from here.

Don't move the convo away, a lot of us are following with keen interest and taking down notes. E.g, I had a question about initial funding but someone else asked it and it was answered.

Thank you @Brine for sharing this useful information with open heart.

Zahra29:
Lol it's been this way since I started commenting in 2022. Some people are just not able to cope with anyone who has opposing views to theirs, facts that interrupt their comfortable emotions, especially when it comes from a woman.

It's sad if you genuinely feel this way and for that I apologise. But if it's self victimisation then it's really unfair.

lavida001:
Well you summarise it wrongly based on preconceived ideas . Some of you are just it here to drag Zhara whenever she make a post. I wonder what she did to deserve so much backlash.

She said "A trade deal is rarely ever 50-50 but it does present significant opportunities which both parties are expected to leverage."
And I said meaning "there was a deal and all parties negotiated to the best of their interests."

"all parties are expected to leverage" vs "all parties negotiated to their best interest".
Is that a biased deduction?

Zahra29:
Kindly screenshot the post where I asserted that Kemi DID NIGERIA A FAVOUR by striking a deal with them🙄

One minute, you're claiming that I should be "condemned" because the trade deal was to Nigeria's detriment. Now you say that both parties negotiated to their best interests.

"In summary", your comments are all over the place and don't make sense, but nevermind I blame the heatwave. Do take care and try to keep cool.

What do you mean by she's shown the most support for her country of heritage?

The bold is summarising your post, not me saying it, you're just playing daft because you've been boxed.

It's difficult to wake up someone that's not sleeping so you know what? You win

Zahra29:
Funny.

I "presented" the trade deal exactly as it was communicated on the UK government website.

I didn't say Nigeria didn't negotiate well. I have no idea what they tried to negotiate, and neither do you or Jedisco who read in the Gazette or Punch that Nigeria's lawyers were apparently against the deal. My response was that if that was the case the Nigerian government should have listened to the lawyers and negotiated better.

Facts are that a landmark deal (according to the gov website) was done. It's not my fault if you and co hear about it years later and you believe it was to Nigeria's detriment. I repeat, perhaps the Nigerian government should have taken advice from their lawyers and negotiated better/harder, like India did, instead of you always looking for someone else to attack. Do better.

In summary, there was a deal and all parties negotiated to the best of their interests.

Kemi DID NOT do Nigeria a favour by striking a trade deal with Nigeria, something Indian leaders didn't do for their country.

The above was your assertion and is really misleading. You know this but don't worry, I've corrected it for you.

Zahra29:
I "repeated" the trade deal twice for the benefit of any readers like you who hadn't heard of it.

A trade deal is rarely ever 50-50 but it does present significant opportunities which both parties are expected to leverage.

The Nigerian government should have listened to their lawyers' vehement concerns and negotiated better terms for the country - that's literally their job. Unless they were forced at gun point to to accept the deal, which I doubt.

You presented the trade deal as though she did Nigeria a favour, one that Indian leaders couldn't do for their country when in fact she did UK a favour to Nigeria's detriment.

Now you're admitting it's because Nigeria didn't negotiate well.

If not for others that have information you just tried to mislead people and should be condemned, I almost fell for it. Stop it.

Fred2020:
I'm currently dealing with a tricky situation and would appreciate any advice on how best to proceed.

I unfortunately found myself dealing with a rogue tradesperson who has failed to show up for the agreed work and has become increasingly difficult to reach to confirm any start date.

I paid him a deposit via bank transfer. Luckily, after I reported the issue as suspected fraud, the bank froze his account.

He’s now saying that once the account is unblocked, he will refund me, as the funds are still in the account. While that might sound reasonable on the surface, I no longer trust that he’ll follow through if I inform the bank the issue is resolved and his account is unblocked.

I informed the bank about this and they mentioned they cannot guarantee he would pay if I agree to have his account unfrozen.

Any suggestions or experience dealing with his?

Your options are limited. You leave the account blocked you may not get the money, unblock it and you will not get the money. So leaving it blocked increases your chances of getting the money because he is loosing too.

He is a trades person and can make money to pay you by receiving payments from other clients using another account.

DoDirtsLikeWorm:
No… my good sir.
Although Nairaland is the encourager of those that actually want to keep hope alive, that’s why I opts to give back in a way I know that I can.

It may surpass the figure I gave because whom U give my tell another; yeah, but let’s keep it that way until I return here to announce that I need those WIILLING to be Tradies….elect/plumb & must “reside in London”(I will tell them why).

They must be willing and may be sacrificing shifts for this particular purpose at some point, otherwise people tends to play with anything that is free.

The aim is to get people out of security jobs and into skill jobs.

Keep your information to yourself. Why did you mention it if you really don't want it known, you actually expected people to be quoting and begging you to share, it's good that your expectations were cut short.

I wonder why you think that information you didn't invent is known to you alone.

Does anyone know how to send things to Nigeria at affordable rates or courier companies that sends at affordable rates?

lavida001:
Youna dey see why I say make we fix Africa bah.

Time go tell

You can do your bit and let others do their bit. Except your bit is to raise awareness that we need to fix Africa.

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jedisco:
Finally, for those looking to start a business, I'd list some pros.

2. One can expense running costs of their business. Asides usual business expenditure, If you do some work from home, you can expense a commensurate part of your mortgage or rent (incl utilities) as business costs.

Thank you for this information.

If I have a mortgage but didn't use it as my office address with company's house due to lender's policy, can I still expense part of the mortgage as I work from home?

lavida001:
The rhetorics that African chiefs sell their brothers is untrue.

Can you throw more light?

It is highly documented that slaves were traded. Who were the sellers?

Goodenoch:
I really don't want to engage further on this but because you've implied I'm being dishonest, I have to say you should check what you posted.

You referenced gullible followers twice, and it's the second that was in relation to politicians. The first was still about people who change what they do as per religious beliefs in response to things being outlawed where they live.

Perhaps you meant something else, but I responded to what you said and only that.

Given a change in circumstance, people will practice what they condemn and justify their actions to their gullible faithfuls.

It's up to you to assume I'm referring to religious faithfuls to suit your narrative.

Goodenoch:
And when people make those choices under duress, it means they were deceiving gullible people an initio àbí?

Makes sense. 👍🏿

When made under duress, then it wasn't a choice.
We all have choices we can make freely, it depends on what is at stake.

By the way, I used politicians to make examples of their actions before and after they enter power, I don't know why you twisted it to religion. What is your motive?

Goodenoch:
So, in a place like China where Christians (among other religions) are not allowed to practice their faith freely, cannot carry bibles openly in some cases, cannot teach their children the bible, cannot congregate to pray etc etc, you think that people complying is normal and reflects them justifying their actions to gullible people?

You don't think it's because people have no choice in the face of repression and violation of their rights?

We all have choices, it all depend on what is at stake.

Lexusgs430:
Let's wait and see....... 😂😁

In current countries that have imposed a ban, I think those that wore, unwore to comply........ 😁😂😊

It's obvious, hence I said people would practice what they condemn given a change in circumstance. While at it, they will find a way to justify their actions to their gullible faithfuls who would also see reasons with them.

Why do you think politicians always know the right things to do until they get into power and their gullible followers defend them before and after.

Lexusgs430:
So we can clearly see a pattern..... My next question would be, those wearing face coverings in the UK, do they ever visit the countries on the banned list..... The answer would be NO..... 😁

My own question is when it is banned, will those that practice it and teach others to practice it leave the country of their own volition or they will go against what they teach?

You can see that given a change of circumstance, humans will do what they condemn.

Lexusgs430:
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If you drop legal cover, and a claim goes to litigation (I hope you have a legal fighting fund of almost £60,000, under your pillow)..... 😂😁

Don't get breakdown cover via your vehicle insurance, get it independently or sign up through your bank account (breakdown cover, is not important, till you breakdown)..... 😭😁

Is legal cover same as motor legal expenses?
Is motor legal expenses that is in my cover details.

Lexusgs430:
I knew the bromance between trump & elon, would come to an abrupt end....... Sanity would slowly return to the world....... 🤣😁

Also, a court blocked trump from imposing new tariffs...... Commonsense, slowly prevailing...... 🤣😂

Except that the end wasn't abrupt. He served his tenure as SGE.

jedisco:
Well said. Economic mobility cant be understated

You can still run a business though limited to 20hrs. Depending on your field, if your invoice for job done is not based on hours put in, then the 20hr limit becomes a vague limit. When done properly, the benefits of being incorporated are good. I can't see myself returning to a fulltime PAYE job

How does this work if there were no visa restrictions?

erico2k2:
Even in the Uk, there is nothing as absolute rights to be British citizen. It could be withdrawn from you under certain circumstances.

Thanks for this comment.

This just shows that you need to start living the kind of life you will live when you become a citizen because becoming a citizen may not change much.

Goodenoch:
Point is I’m surprised anyone thinks that the freedom to change careers/employers at will is not a serious thing to not have for 5 additional years.

In the post you quoted, did you read where I said this was the major issue or you're not referring to me by the bolded?