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IamWonderful:
Where will the votes come from if Tinubu did not choose Muslim northern? igbos are his sworn enemies just because he is Yoruba, they hate him because he is a Yoruba with political prowess

So una Dey fear to lose like this? Chai

mycar:
why not Atiku to step down for PO since by you, Tinubu will defeat him(Atiku) in the north and kwankwaso will step down for Tinubu instead of Atiku?

You Dey mind them? That is now their new strategy. Even if PO steps down, it won’t change anything cos people who are motivated to vote now won’t bother on Election Day.

I have noticed recently that PDP people have come up with a new strategy of trying to pressure Peter obi for stepping down for Atiku. Guess what guys, this strategy is dead on arrival

helinues:
Go to the thread I created about it and learn more.

Tag me to it

IamWonderful:
Are you talking about Adams oshiomole state?

Did he ever deliver Edo state to APC even as governor? Let’s start from there

IamWonderful:
Hope he donate Edo state votes to him also

Edo state is no go area for APC. Know ye this and find peace.

athaboi:
Peter Obi is winning and we will continue to push... Niger state is in the bag now! We move to Kebbi state! Thanks to Gen Guzo, Col. Sani bello, ibb and the man behind the game His Excellency Gen Aremu Olusegun Obasanjo! We will have a new set of leaders come next year

Niger state? How?

Former Secretary to the Government of the Federation, Babachir Lawal, has faulted the announcement of a Muslim-Muslim ticket by the presidential candidate of the All Progressives Congress, Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Lawal, in a note he personally signed on Tuesday, described the decision as a “disastrous error.”

Mr Tinubu on Sunday had announced former Borno State Governor, Kassim Shettima, as his running mate in the 2023 presidential election.

Both men are Muslims.


Mr Lawal, who backed Tinubu during the APC presidential primaries, said the choice of Mr Shettima was a sign that the APC presidential candidate has “been cornered by self-serving, hero-worshiping, lapdogs.”

“The northern governors and some northern moslem elites must have persuaded him that they will never vote for a ticket that has a northern Christian on it. And he has agreed with them,” Mr Lawal said.

“But if he thinks a Moslem-Moslem ticket will win him the northern Muslim votes, he should have a rethink. They will massively vote for one of their sons because it is in their nature to do so. Buhari, their first son will not be on the ballot in 2023. Atiku their second son will be.”



Read Mr Babachir’s full note below:

I thought I will be able to avoid commenting on the disastrous error by my very good friend, Sen Bola Ahmed Tinubu in his choice of a running mate.

I will be the very last person to stand in the way of my very good friend Tinubu’s path to the presidency. This is because since 2011 my consuming passion has been for him to succeed Buhari as President of Nigeria.
It will not be true if I say that I did not see it coming. I have often read his body language, picked up snippets from several discussions with his lapdogs (some of whom, sadly are Christians but most of whom are moslems) and I have conveyed my reservations to them against the pitfalls of a moslem-moslem ticket towards which I sensed they were drifting.

As part of my obligation to him, a close friend, I had on many occasions argued the merits and demerits of both ticket permutations to him. I have done so in both verbal and written form and I have likewise, done so with some of his close respectable associates and friends. In all instances I had left him with the sole responsibility for his final decision arguing that in the end the consequences of the outcome of any bad decision will be his to
bear. There might be some collateral damages though. I have also on several occasions passed on to him counsels and messages from some well meaning Nigerians intended to alert him on the possible outcomes of the Presidential ticket permutations.

Tinubu is a very good man. He is a great listener. He has a very humble and friendly disposition to every one. He is very generous in both cash and kind, especially where it could advance his political interests. But I have realized that it is in the nature of power that sycophants and lapdogs have the most influence on leaders with such character traits. They will lie to him, malign and disparage others and generally do any thing to curry his favor and to also put well-meaning associates in bad light. I suspect this is what has
happened to my friend. He has been cornered by self-serving, hero-worshiping, lapdogs.

It never used to be like this. While in his hay-days in Lagos, he surrounded himself with smart, street-wise guys that could tell truth to power. He had Rauph Aregbesola, Yomi Osinbajo, Babatunde Fashola, Dele Alake, Muiz Banire, etc.The Lagos days were the days of think-tanks, strategic planning, monitoring and evaluation, principles and ideologies. But
these people have since grown-up and moved up to establish their own systems living my friend stranded. Nature they say abhors vacuum.

Welcome the Abuja equivalent. But the Abuja equivalent are people inflicted with the modern Nigerian diseases – religious bigotry, sycophancy and morbid tribalism. They are mostly political jobbers who are most times not averse to the application of diabolical means. Gone are the days of think-tanks, and strategic planning. Gone are the days of principles and ideologies. Try and call a meeting; they will not attend. Try and make a plan; they will sabotage it. Everything is ad-hoc, everything is chaotic because they excel in such environments. The result is that they have played on his longterm ambition to be President and have built it into a sort of desperation and a crescendo that easily justifies this satanic resort to a Muslim-Muslim ticket. This is the calamity that has befallen my
friend.

And why Kashim Shetima? He is an overambitious man who has a Machiavellian bent and has lots of money with which to procure a preferred-candidate status among Tinubu’s lapdogs. And as we are beginning to see, to also procure bogus supporters especially from among the Christian community to help launder his no-so-good image.

But as a popular proverb goes: “Those whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad”. It appears that the gods want to destroy the APC and its Presidential Candidate and have chosen the instrumentality of the northern Moslem governors and their super ambitious tool and Kashim Ibrahim for this purpose. Alhaji Kashim Shetima is a Greek gift from the Northern governors to Tinubu. I advise Bola to make sure Kashima’s two hands are always in his plain sight and empty.

True, based on the advise of his new friends, Bola Ahmed Tinubu has made his choice. And I am sure he thinks he is ready for the out come of that choice. He has chosen to bring religion to the front burner of Nigerian politics. And being a Muslim he has chosen to take sides with his own religion. For all he cares, Christians can go to blazes with their
votes. But he must also be told that there will consequences for this choice. Some of them are that Christians all over the country will revolt against the APC to put the chances of his election in serious jeopardy. It will also put the election of all Christians standing for elections in Christian dominated areas in jeopardy. This could result in APC being a minority party in both the National and State Houses of Assembly.

Now tell me which Christian will vote for APC with the following contraption: Moslem Presidential Candidate (Lagos), Moslem Vice Presidential Candidate (Borno), Moslem National Chairman (Nasarawa), Moslem Deputy National Chairman (Borno), Moslem President (Katsina); Moslem Senate President (Yobe); Moslem Speaker (Lagos); Moslem Deputy Speaker (Plateau) e.t.c. APC the great! Wu na de try woh!

The northern governors and some northern moslem elites must have persuaded him that they will never vote for a ticket that has a northern Christian on it. And he has agreed with them. But if he thinks a Moslem-Moslem ticket will win him the northern Muslim votes, he
should have a rethink. They will massively vote for one of their sons because it is in their nature to do so. Buhari, their first son will not be on the ballot in 2023. Atiku their second son will be.

Proof of a possible Islamic agenda was leaked when Governor Ganduje, the “Kadmul Islam”, gave advance notice that Tinubu had assured them he would be nominating a moslem as his running mate. For those who might not know, Governor Ganduje has a foundation called “Ganduje Foundation” which purpose according to its website is to “provide selfless service to humanity and Islam” but whose primary purpose it appears is the conversion of Christians to Islam.

So if my very good friend Tinubu in a desperate bid to become President allows himself to made into a religious bigot or even a mujahideen, he is welcome. But it is a risk that will not play out positively for his presidential bid. But, were he to win and become President of Nigeria, it will be as a sectional President; an Islamic President. And he will surely face
massive discontent and opposition even before taking off.

Expecting Nigerians to ignore this crass insensitivity to the country’s diversity amounts to acceding to the perpetration of very grave injustice and discrimination against a huge segment of the society. No one who seeks to be president of Nigeria should ever deploy the tool of religious extremism and exclusivism as a tool to win elections. This is very very
dangerous. And this is very sad.

But, baring any last minute change of mind, Bola has made his choice. He should be bluntly told that in this choice Nigerian Christians clearly see a pending Islamic Republic
of Nigeria in its infancy and are right to be severely anxious. There is gloom among the Christian community all over the country since Tinubu announced Kashim Shetima as his running mate. Are the generality of the moslem ummah happy with this? The answer is a resounding NO.

How then do we respond? The decision as to how to respond to this deliberately senseless act of provocation is both corporate to each religious group and also personal to each voter that love peace, and hate injustice. Christians want to continue to leave peacefully with their moslem neighbors at home, at school, at the work place, in the markets and on the streets as we have always done or desired to do. And I am sure Moslems share this view too. No one person’s ambition to rule over us should be allowed
to set us apart and at war with one another.

Bola Ahmed Tinubu, should be compelled upon by whoever can do so to rescind this decision. President Mohammed Buhari should exercise his powers as the Commander-inChief and as the APC Leader to revoke this nomination of a VP by Tinubu. The APC National Chairman should refuse to sign the nomination forms if not rescinded.

There is a story in the bible on how some people responded to similar provocation: “And when all Israel saw that the king did not listen to them, the people answered the king,

“What portion do we have in David? We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, David.” So Israel went to their tents” (1 Kings 12:16).

I will love for Bola to be our next President. But I am afraid a Moslem-Moslem ticket will be “Dead on Arrival”. And the arrival date according to INEC’s election time table is 25th February, 2023. This ticket will drag down the whole APC members to the pit. We all should reject it.

Engr. Babachir Lawal


https://www.channelstv.com/2022/07/12/2023-tinubus-muslim-muslim-ticket-is-a-disastrous-error-dead-on-arrival-babachir-lawal/

helinues:
So as they backed GEJ in 2015, O lu'le

Atiku in 2019, O ja so fo

Obi 2023, baba n la Mailer Daemon

Oga, you ran away after I asked for factual data to prove non indigent voters in Lagos are not up to 500k. You thought I have forgotten abi

JudasNaKarrot:
This election is the litmus test. We will use the election to measure all their strengths. It's not by bad mouthing.

We shall see.

You can’t use osun elections to measure the presidential election sir. It’s a different kettle of fish. Are you really expecting LP to win osun?

AfonjaNaBastard:
I call on all Nigerian Christians to vote along religious line in 2023. Any religious leader who supports the evil devilish party called APC in 2023 should be abandoned by his or her members. If Nigerian Christians who make up about 45% of the population vote for Peter Obi, who is a Christian, Muslims can share their votes between Tinubu and Atiku if they like. This madness has an expiry date.

This is wrong bro! There are some Muslims for Oeter obi too. You would end up doing him more harm

LegendHero:
Nice one from these groups.

It is your right to come out to vent your anger on the ticket. This is democracy and you have every right to be angry.

However, in the game of numbers and decision analysis, most Northern Christians usually give their votes to the PDP and historical data also shows this. Which means that Tinubu already foresaw that there will be withdrawal and realignment, it is already factored in the numbers.

With North being Muslim majority, it will be sure defeat for Tinubu if he had chose a minority Christian as VP. These outburst by CAN/Northern Christians could even have a resultant effect where the average Muslim in the North that won’t vote Tinubu before might be swayed by religious sentiment to make a statement about their numbers in the North.

We welcome more of this outburst, and I hope you can keep the momentum till next year because sentiment analysis shows that Nigerians generally can’t keep up the pace for long.

Hope you know the PDP candidate is a Muslim too and a northerner? I say make I remind you awon game of numbers

BigSarah:
He can't win

You haven’t said why

BigSarah:
Old news

Your comments show PO’s candidacy appeals to you but for some reason you are skeptical

helinues:
Dispute it.

I created thread about it over a month now, still undisputable

Present a factual data sir!

ASAPFERG:
because the sw supported him.. he lost when will rejected him.. same way obi will loose because we have already rejected him

And you think tinubu will win Atiku in the NE? Now let me break it down for you.

Since 1999, Borno and Yobe states have never voted for a PDP Governor. The other states in that zone have had PDP governors. Adamawa and Taraba has been traditional PDP states even at the presidential level and GEJ won these two states. The NE except adamawa and taraba had consistently voted for candidate buhari and not the party. But in their states, they vote PDP except Borno and yobe. In 2023, there will be no candidate buhari in the ballot. Atiku is from the NE and with their solidarity for a NE president, he will take that zone. Peter obi will do well in taraba and areas in the NE with Christian communities. So wipe that smirk off your face cos it’s not yet uhuru.

helinues:
How is Anambra topping Borno?

For how long would you people continue to deceive yourself with the talk about Igbo's votes in other regions.

Are the number of non indigenes registered voters in Lagos state up to 500k?

So you don't know there are measures to cross check the influence of non Indigenes in state affairs?

Chai, most of the Obi's supporters are noobs in Nigeria Politics

How can you say total number of non indigent voters in Lagos are not up to 500k? Really?

helinues:
Then if that should be the case, Obi should forget about getting 5% of the votes from the SW and the entire north

Will you tell people how to vote? How you wan do am

omenka:
IPOBS thinks they're smart. Una never see anything. Pandora will NEVER be President of "zoogeria".

Such fun to see when your wins come back to haunt you.

Dude, Peter obi will win your state hands down. Even in your unit.

Frigga13:
Positive screenshots on obi are made by IPOB bingos

The op is telling you what they North is saying about your toxicity

You to same page and post the positive comments if you feel op no do his job well


North 2023

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You are become more foolish by the day

oyin44:
Obi has no good profile towards northerners


imagine,

They even likened him as a black biafran..omo, see insult

The Northerners were just condemning the ibos as unfit to rule..

Goodluck lost the core north but still won. Ditto OBJ

ipobarecriminals:
the real voters are OFFLINE.They use Tecno/itel radio/torchlight phones . They are the real MVPs

They will reach out to them. Relax

muykem:
Obi himself is also from Biafra and they want to rule Nigeria.

Was Obama’s father not a Kenyan?

seunmsg:
One can’t help but laugh at some of the news they now celebrate on social media. So, Herman Hembe, the elder brother of Hembe Okuma is now the person to revamp Benue state? Are you guys kidding me or what?

You still think people are gonna vote for party? Many benue people will vote for LP at the presidential and APC for the governorship. Know this and brace up.

Arrewa:
That's his business!!

I said it and I will say it again... Tinubu should have supported Rotimi Amaechi!!

I don't see Tinubu wining any State in the north!!

Buhari is currently the most hated politician in the north

Go to any popular joint in the north, u hardly see any northerner defending or praising Buhari.... Almost everybody see him as a bloody failure!

I don't see APC ever winning 2023 General Election.

There's high probablity of Atiku becoming becoming the president of Nigeria come 2023.

Tinubu thought that as Long he dines with northern Governors and leaders... That will give him a free access to northern vote!!

So it's true that u southners actually believed that northerners are cows who can't make decision for themselves but Wait for the Elite to make decision for them and tell them who vote...

Even if all northern governors support Tinubu... He is still going to loose!!

Go and write this down!!

The biggest mistake Tinubu and his campaign thugs made was to make 2023 election north vs south!!

By Earlier positioning themselves against the north!!

So the elites decide for you?

Unzerious:
Wow...Just checked it.

Abia got a Million+

Now you know! Voter apathy is the main issue if not we are capable of matching the core north. Hope you also saw akwa Ibom produced over a million vote and Cross River 900k+?

Unzerious:
Apart from Delta and Rivers States, No State mentioned can give a Candidate a Million Votes!

You are wrong sir! Go and look at the results of 2011 elections in the east and in plateau state.

NaijaRoyalty:
Nice one

Congrats to him, it's not his fault he was born by wealthy parents

Yes! Congrats to the boy and I don’t blame him for anything. But pray, what other source of livelihood does wike have? If you know, then educate me.

Shugavee:
tinubu winning is a NO and Peter will not even get quarter of the north. So ATIKU remains the best choice

If you know this, why are you so apprehensive?

OptimistBrain:
Dear Obidients. Please read this without bias.

Obi is the right man for the job as it stands but this election will either be between APC and PDP... I would have voted and fully support Obi if either Osibanjo or Ameachi were on the ballot for APC, not minding who wins.

But as it stands, a vote for Peter obi will only increase the chances of Tinubu winning the election. Most Peter obi supporters are from the South south, south East and North Central which are PDP strong holds. It will only split PDP votes and give Tinubu an edge.

Please if you are not in support of Muslim-Muslim ticket, pls vote PDP, if not the country will be governed by the Muslim for 24 straight years.

Peter Obi will not win in any APC strong hold. He will only split the PDP votes in the south there by giving APC an edge.

Peter Obi is the best candidate, but PDP is definitely better than APC. A vote for Obi as it stands is a vote indirectly for APC.

Please vote wisely.

Oga, vote yours and let me vote mine. Simple

Just watched the full video on YouTube. He said “Ordinarily, if I can’t get it, I can recommend him but that would be building something on zero”. Whoever posted this video cleverly cut off the second part of that statement.

oliverwrites:
A video was posted and you still can say this?

I hate Tinubu, Atiku is just an idiotas, Peter Obi has nothing to offer, but like it or not, Tinubu looks like he will be winning. We can only hope for a miracle to prevent it.

You hate everyone yet you couldn’t put yourself forward to run for the office so we vote for you?