₦airaland Forum

Truckpusher:
Omo! na so me see am o. We only sit down and find out faults.

Truckpusher:
C'mon ! BABAONECHANCE isn't looking this healthy if compared to what is on ground now in Duara.

barcanista:
Well, our hearts and voices should not be too short to negotiate with God.


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obi4eze:
Temitemi1 Tomakint Truckpusher Peppyluv02 Biafranqueen Whynotthetruth
Come and see your oga

Mynd44:
1. What did I measure him with? Simple...where we were in 2011 and where we are now. Has there been appreciable development? Hell no
2. My definition of change is not doing the same thing and expecting a different result. GEJ has not convinced me in his +4 years as president has not done enough to deserve a second term
You can check this for more info
https://www.nairaland.com/2073998/why-should-vote-president-jonathan

Demdem:
The procedures we performed did not constitute an examination or a review in accordance with generally accepted auditing standards or attestation standards. Accordingly, we provide no opinion, attestation or other form of assurance with respect to our work or the information upon which our work was based. - PWC

Buhari should ensure a proper job is done.

Mynd44:
This is where you failed. You said Fashola has been an average governor with a population of 15 million, more doctors than the federal government, more civil servants than most states, more state roads and more to spend on infrastructure?
Let me explain to you what works in Lagos
1. A good waste disposal system
2. A commitment to a good transportation network comprising (land and water. Rail to join soon)
3. A working Health sector
4. A working agricultural sector
5. A secured state
6. An investment friendly state which draws investment
7. Heck I stay in Lagos and we don't have issues of water as we open our taps and it flows
8. Improvement in transportation and discipline
9. A commitment to citizens
10. A government that sees a Lagos for all without bias for tribe or gender.
Now you brought up the issue of the books. This is a great idea, why has the EFCC not arrested even if it is the ex governor Tinubu and charged him to court? The only times he was tried he was found innocent.
How come you people have not found mind blowing scandals or are these issues of massive looking in your mind? Give us facts and not hearsay.
You should note that the current speaker of the Lagos state house of assembly is facing charges of corruption. Guess what, he is not returning to the house and the case is ongoing without influence by the state

Mynd44:
1. Fashola is a governor under Tinubu's control bla bla bla. The question is simple. Is Fashola a good governor?

2. This is the problem you guys do not get and I doubt you will. Why should we be stuck with a leader just cos (as you say) "he has done more than previous leaders" who we all agree are failures? In the competitive world of today, we do not care if you are better than your predecessor, the question is how have you fared? Have you seen me (I use myself cos you actually mentioned me in your list and mentioned that I am against GEJ due to some non existent tribal sentiment) compare GEJ to anyone? That is a waste of my time. When I pull out my pen to score the GEJ government, I grade them based on how I see it not comparisms.
Those standards say GEJ does not deserve a second term neither does he deserve the title hero and there goes my personal conviction.

Now please get one thing right, in the APC primary, I will rather have had Kwankwaso win the primary than Buhari as I have more confidence in him to lead this nation but Buhari won so fine. I am a #GEJout person which meant I would have supported Patience Jonathan against Goodluck(not kidding)

Mynd44:
1. Fashola is a governor under Tinubu's control bla bla bla. The question is simple. Is Fashola a good governor?

2. This is the problem you guys do not get and I doubt you will. Why should we be stuck with a leader just cos (as you say) "he has done more than previous leaders" who we all agree are failures? In the competitive world of today, we do not care if you are better than your predecessor, the question is how have you fared? Have you seen me (I use myself cos you actually mentioned me in your list and mentioned that I am against GEJ due to some non existent tribal sentiment) compare GEJ to anyone? That is a waste of my time. When I pull out my pen to score the GEJ government, I grade them based on how I see it not comparisms.
Those standards say GEJ does not deserve a second term neither does he deserve the title hero and there goes my personal conviction.

Now please get one thing right, in the APC primary, I will rather have had Kwankwaso win the primary than Buhari as I have more confidence in him to lead this nation but Buhari won so fine. I am a #GEJout person which meant I would have supported Patience Jonathan against Goodluck(not kidding)

Mynd44:
Bigotry? Whose bigotry?

Okay, lets sit down and compare.

Fashola under the ACN/APC is governor of Lagos
GEJ under PDP is president of Nigeria.

Whose government am I more confident in?
Hell, I am not even a Buhari fan but the blatant misrule of the GEJ administration has to stop.


Discuss the GEJ government under
1. Power
2. Security
3. Road development
4. Health
5. Education
6. Anti corruption
7. Government presence
8. Economic policies
9. Press freedom
10. Foreign policies
And lets see how well he has performed in these 10 sectors. I think this will help us see how much I am against the GEJ administration due to tribal differences

Mynd44:
Bigotry? Whose bigotry?
Okay, lets sit down and compare.
Fashola under the ACN/APC is governor of Lagos
GEJ under PDP is president of Nigeria.
Whose government am I more confident in?
Hell, I am not even a Buhari fan but the blatant misrule of the GEJ administration has to stop.
Discuss the GEJ government under
1. Power
2. Security
3. Road development
4. Health
5. Education
6. Anti corruption
7. Government presence
8. Economic policies
9. Press freedom
10. Foreign policies
And lets see how well he has performed in these 10 sectors. I think this will help us see how much I am against the GEJ administration due to tribal differences

MizMyColi:
Lols, @whynothetruth
Please follow your path.
I saw your comment on my thread.
I actually gave it a like.
It made sense to me, even though it's something I cannot carry out personally based on my convictions and ideals.
I just think we can do better with the name callings and mockeries (direct and indirect)....honoris causa tins.

That said,
Let everyone stick to their true calling. If everyone is peaceable and agreeable like me, then Politics of Opposition is dead.
Even the incoming government wouldn't want that.

AWONEYAN:
Muhammadu Buhari Is Our Candidate- Nairaland Progressive by barcanista(m): 7:44pm On Nov 16, 2014
Members of the Progressive Caucus on Nairaland unanimously endorsed General Muhammadu Buhari as their sole candidate for the 2015 Presidential Election. The caucus made the endorsement on Saturday, 15 November and Sunday, 16 November 2014.

General Muhamadu Buhari, a Presidential aspirant on the platform of All Progressive Congress is favoured to win his party's December 10 Primaries and go on to defeat the incumbent President Jonathan of the People's Democratic Party in the February 14th Presidential poll.

He was a former Military Chief that has served Nigeria in various capacity including Military Governor of defunct North West, Petroleum Minister, Chairman NNPC, Military Head of State for 20 months and Executive Chairman of defunct PTF. As a public servant, he distinguished himself as an incorruptible administrator, a gentleman of repute, a disciplined officer and a patriotic statesman.

The endorsement also serve as a message to the APC leadership, conveying acceptance of Buhari by the Progressives and informing the party that the Daura born General is the best man for the job, and the right man to dislodge President Jonathan and the PDP from Aso Rock in 2015.
https://www.nairaland.com/1998766/nairaland-progressives-lets-endorse-muhammadu.


@ Barcanista , this is what you said about Buhari, few months ago.................................................................................

OAM4J:
Excuse me...are you also saying all that happened under GEJ are just petty stealing and stealing is not corruption?
You mean you are still looking for the proof of Subsidy scam, Pension scam, Purchase of armored car scam, Immigration job scam, NNPC unremitted fund, spending of almost $9B on subsidy by NNPC that has no budget approval, all that took place under GEJ administration...

Mynd44:
Tinubu been been tried by the courts under the PDP led governments how many times and freed?
If you bring proof that he stole and prosecute him, anyone who shouts should be locked up with him.

Mynd44:
Just imagine them. They tried to trick us into voting a government that worships corruption and they ain't ashamed.

Just imagine what would have happened of GEJ had won....this wanton stealing the NNPC would have gone on for 8 years.

The same government they told us to vote back. How evil can you people be?

PassingShot:
Somebody obviously will continue to cry us a river till 2019 and possibly beyond.

In the OP's warped logic and reasoning, it's either GMB probes all or none! In his wisdom, it's better to forget the missing $20billion if we cannot probe all past cases of corruptions. What a reasoning!

Anyway, the message I have for you OP is that GMB has the prerogative to choose who and what to probe. He may only be challenged by Nigerians on his failure to probe his immediate predecessor and not all those before him.

And if all past succeeding govts failed to probe their predecessor, that's their problem and not Buhari's.

Andromalius:
Why are you guys wasting your times arguing with these dimwits online Its not like whatever they say actually affects anything in this country.

If they don't like how Buhari chooses to fight corruption what the hell are they gonna do? Its not like they supported or voted for him anyway HELL they actually wanted the guy who was allowing all kinds of crap happening to remain in office.

What i find funny is how someone who wasted his time writing all sorts of crap against Buhari and supporting GEJ suddenly feels he can make demands on how he should go about doing what WE VOTED FOR HIM TO DO.

I thought you never had faith in Buhari ? I thought he was illiterate and certificateless or whatever AND i thought you said he will NEVER be President.

barcanista:
Obj also gave himself and Bode Beorge clean bill of health. In fact, Buhari gave Abacha clean bill of health. We need thorough audit. No excuse...

patrickmuf:
Question is; are you satisfied with the results having read the audit report

patrickmuf:
Question is; are you satisfied with the results having read the audit report

sureguy02:
You are blabbing here just because you haven't read the report! Please download it, it is free.
No sane or well meaning Nigerian will be satisfied with the results! The report even shows that the missing money might be much more than the alleged $20B. Why do you think GEJ didn't release the report before the elections?
You have a brain, please use it.

luvmijeje:
Story for the gods..... The President elect will probe NNPC from whatever year(s) he wants and you barcanista don't have the right to give him conditions before he do what we (those that detested corruption) elected him to do .

If you are truly concerned, tell your corrupt President to start probing before he lives that seat.

sureguy02:
Barcanista and his flawed reasoning!

What was GEJ doing since 2010? Why didn't he probe OBJ and the leaders before him? What makes you think you have a say in how Buhari will run his govt?

I sincerely believe you haven't gone through the report! If not, you wouldn't have spewed this nonsense here.

You committed a "slippery slope" fallacy. If GMB decides to probe the allegations of the missing money, it doesn't mean he has to probe past leaders. We are not asking him to wake people from their graves to probe them.

Why are you scared by the way? You shouldn't have any reason to fear if GEJ's hands are truly clean.

nduchucks:
Sorry to say that OP's suggestion is dead on arrival. The suggestion is equivalent to stating, in a nonsensical manner, that "if you must prosecute a thief you caught red handed today, you must also prosecute another prson who stole 11-15 years ago".

The issue at hand is the recently released audit report. Lets deal with the newly caught thieves first.

sureguy02:
Barcanista and his flawed reasoning!

What was GEJ doing since 2010? Why didn't he probe OBJ and the leaders before him? What makes you think you have a say in how Buhari will run his govt?

I sincerely believe you haven't gone through the report! If not, you wouldn't have spewed this nonsense here.

You committed a "slippery slope" fallacy. If GMB decides to probe the allegations of the missing money, it doesn't mean he has to probe past leaders. We are not asking him to wake people from their graves to probe them.

Why are you scared by the way? You shouldn't have any reason to fear if GEJ's hands are truly clean.

nduchucks:
Sorry to say that OP's suggestion is dead on arrival. The suggestion is equivalent to stating, in a nonsensical manner, that "if you must prosecute a thief you caught red handed today, you must also prosecute another prson who stole 11-15 years ago".

The issue at hand is the recently released audit report. Lets deal with the newly caught thieves first.

sureguy02:
Barcanista and his flawed reasoning!

What was GEJ doing since 2010? Why didn't he probe OBJ and the leaders before him? What makes you think you have a say in how Buhari will run his govt?

I sincerely believe you haven't gone through the report! If not, you wouldn't have spewed this nonsense here.

You committed a "slippery slope" fallacy. If GMB decides to probe the allegations of the missing money, it doesn't mean he has to probe past leaders. We are not asking him to wake people from their graves to probe them.

Why are you scared by the way? You shouldn't have any reason to fear if GEJ's hands are truly clean.

otr1:
...as certain as the sun would rise from the east, NNPC will be probed and anyone found culpable, punished. However, you don't dictate to us how it's going to be done, we do.

Mynd44:
I am 12 years old

Mynd44:
It is quite distasteful that after seeing the report of the PWC audit, I remember that President GEJ had this report since last year and hid it from the public cos he knows how damaging it is and he knows it will hurt his chances of being re-elected. And it is the same people who were shouting that we vote the thieving administration are the ones dictating what the next government must or must not do. GEJ is still president, why did he sit on the report? Why did you clowns not tell GEJ to do a complete audit of NNPC? You see the level of your hypocrisy eh....