₦airaland Forum

davidque007:
Maybe you are right on all your points, that is irrelevant to me. You must understand that the APC led government is the government of this day and their success or failure @ governance directly or indirectly affect all Nigerians whether APC faithful or PDP faithful or otherwise. Its important that we pray and support this government to succeed in building on already started developmental programs or start new ones and to fight corruption out of Nigeria. I have learnt over the years to stay clear of partizanship and only to support men of intergrity

1)Why not counter the points if you think Op lied otherwise why use the word; "maybe"?

2)Op did NOTHING wrong or destructive to Nigeria here...rather he's being constructive by pointing out that buhari and co are big liars and hypocrites...

3)Take your sermon to APC and Buhari who still demonize Jonathan daily in the media while copying his works and appropriating his success to themselves and shifting failures to him and PDP...

damton:
Don't know about you but I recall that the previous administration has spent over 16 billion dollars on trying to give us steady supply of electricity. I don't know how manage we now experience steady supply. Aside that when you enter office, dp you just sit and start working knowing fully well how rotten things have been. therefore planning takes . it might be long and turtous but is well worth at the end of the day.

1)Kindly show me where you got that $16b figure...

2)Which rot are you clearing and where or how are you clearing this your imaginary rot?

damton:
These write up is not objective. You can never compare the ineptitude of oga Jonathan to buharis change mantra. The fact that we are groaning under the biting economic situation suggest the high level of mismanagement that went down the line under Jonathan. Jonathan government is a luxurious government where 600 people serves the president as entourage during foreign trips. Aside that , there is no measure of discipline within the corridors of power , ministers act like gods and are not accountable to anyone. this portend a bad image for a government that wants to be taken seriously. Besides these, the regime is to early to begin to start comparing it with others.

1)I am not sure you know the meaning of objectivity...

2)Why don't you attempt countering points raised by Op than writing bundle of trash?

3)What do you know about such foreign trips? Does buhari has any cabinet or economic team to take on such foreign trips? how many people were on Obama's trip to Kenya?

4)Can you specifically state instances that showed that ministers weren't accountable to anybody?

5)Did Op do any comparison here or you don't understand meaning of words before usage?

Freemanan:
ECONOMIC ILLITERATES WILL BLAME BUHARI...



WAITING..

Harvard trained economist, kindly educate us on who to blame and why this is happening?

seunmsg:
You lack knowledge about how the finances of the country works.

The cost cutting measures introduced by PMB will only free up more resources that the federal government can use to fund its developmental projects in the country. It has nothing to do with the federation account that belongs to the entire federation. The federal government funds it's activities from the Consolidated revenue fund and not the federation account. Any cost cutting measure will affect the CRF and not the federation account.

The $20billion stolen by GEJ, Alison Madueke and other rogues in the GEJ administration have not been recovered and so cannot be a part of the federation account yet. You wailers are the ones shouting that the corrupt ridden GEJ administration should not be probed so, I wonder who you are trying to deceive.


And I don't think I need to address why we are experiencing a shortfall in the total revenue generated and shared from the federation account. The Permanent secretary in federal ministry of finance already addressed that. Shut down of production lines for maintenance and fall in the average price of crude oil internationally to around $56 is as clear as daylight and doesn't need any explanation.

All these grammar explained NOTHING...

NNPC remits its fund directly to federation account which is what Sincere9gerian is referring to...So if Jonathan stole $20billion then before balance was remitted to federation account...What stopped the amount remitted from increasing rather it is decreasing when oil price is still above $61 Or is buhari stealing or looting his own $20billion now with sanusi?

ideykwum:
Omenka gets my goat because I used to have some respect for him...now all I have is disgust!! Two-faced bigot!!

He never notices bigotry until it's from the SE or SS!

bolded applies to all of them...

In all, I am least perturbed because I stand by my initial comment...how can a Tinubu stop adults from having a mind of their own even when the candidate they desire is still from same party?...Tinubu does the thinking for most of these fellows and they term it leadership... Maybe leadership has got another meaning altogether now...

ideykwum:
Why didn't you bigots caution modath for his pro-yoruba comment which came before that of whyntruth? Your hypocrisy beats imagination! I don't sanction tribalism, but what is sauce for the goose must be sauce for the gander! You must come to equity with clean hands!!!

Thanks boss...I don't do tribal fights... I rather comment on issues and topics as I deem fit...Folks can. read whatever negative meaning into it because they are afraid of their shadow...Omenka & co can insult as much as they wish but they should stop running from their shadow or projecting their image on others... Thanks again boss...

OlaSpeaker:
You shouldn't have quoted me so it better you ignore my comment

Sorry if you felt bad by my comment...

Abagworo:
Has any prominent Igbo leader visited the Awolowos yet?

Sadistic confusionist

God bless Jonathan and family...

emeritus856:
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With all the nonsense above, your people cant stop trooping to the SW daily. The see SW as there eldorado and London. Osun state is 2nd least state in poverty rate index, if not the 1st. Osun is only having problem of salaries, aside that it beats the dead cholera infested Ebonyi hands down. How is Enugu better than Oyo? Buhahahahaha. You must be a comedian. Ogun state is the most industralized in Nigeria, Abia state is an eyesore abeg. Your noise cant change the fact on ground, deal with it.

smh... Are Americans, Asians or European s who come to invest or work in Nigeria coming because Nigeria is better than their countries bye bye ...

modath:
Wailers will always find a way to spin the story to favour the band of bandits..

Who was president between Jan-May again

Buhari incurred over 50billion in just his first 30days as subsidy and this report covers January-July...You can do your arithmetic now...thanks

emeritus856:
Is Anambra a PDP state? What are you talking about bro. Lagos is the only state that can survive without the monthly allocation, dont even go there. Which Ogun is struggling to breath? Stop lying everywhere, Osun state is owing same way your SE states are owing. Ebonyi should be converted to a local government, Imo and Abia are jokers. LMAOooo

APC & SW preaches that Osun, Oyo and Ogun are struggling or dying because PDP/Jonathan failed or mismanaged Nigeria economy... How come Anambra is doing well under same economy without borrowing a kobo Ebonyi is by far more viable than Osun(waiting and surviving on relief materials); just like Enugu is better than Oyo(about to retrench workers or cut salary by half) and Abia will humiliate Ogun(aside debts, dearth of infrastructure have deducted salary arrears to contend with) etc ...Byeee

SUBWAY101:
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[s]1) So SouthWest equals APC cos of ACN. I laugh at your stupidity. All your SE states are owing even with the 13% derivation for Abia and Imo state. Imo state is dead, Ebonyi is not even a state anymore cos its totally dead. We only hear news of cholera there, Abia is an eyesore. Anambra is the only viable state in the SE. Your people troop daily to the same SW just to earn a living, they will rather die in SW that stay in SE where nothing is working.

2) You are a big liar. Afenifere group till today are behind Mimiko, they even endorsed GEJ during the election. Fayose, Mimiko are sitting governor and control there region. Your bigotry is making you spew trash, you are not making any sense bro.

3) You mean Tinubu control Fayose in Ekiti state, Mimiko in Ondo state as well. You are truly deluded, your trying to justify your bigotry is exposing you as an empty vessel with fufu packed brain. T A Orji milked Abia dry and was still voted to the senate, his slavish boy still remains the governor of Abia state till today while his son is in the state house. You have no point little man


It was discovered that the ex-governor, Dr. T.A. Orji, his wife, Dr. (Mrs.) Odochi Orji, the son, Engr. Chinedu Orji, used the proceeds of their own loot to pur­chase and acquire estate and land­ed properties across the country.

http://sunnewsonline.com/new/how-ex-gov-orji-wife-son-squandered-n474bn-in-abia/



4) You are a shameless liar. Prove to us that he was stoned and cant live in Abia, you lie for a living so am not surprised.

5) Peter Obi single handedly installed Obiano as governor. He sidelined Soludo in the primary cos of Obiano and help rig him in, they fought cos Obiano is trying to free himself from his godfather.

You have no point, just trash and half truth.[/s]

byeee

emeritus856:
Akpu man, Stop displaying your ignorance in 3D. Olatunde Olabode Vincent was CBN Governor from 1977 to 1982, Joseph Oladele Sanusi was CBN Governor from 1999 to 2004. Your whole SE states are owing except Anambra even with the oil derivation to states like Imo and Abia. Stop bragging over nothing.

Thanks for reminding me...I answer based on posts not necessarily bragging about other's achievements as mine is paramount to me...

Thank God, there's a state proving media propaganda of APC about PDP mismanagement of economy a big lie and a show of irresponsibility by proponents(APC)...

Even with same oil derivative, Ondo owes too...with national economy and outlook, Lagos owes more...other SW states are struggling to breathe today, from Osun to Oyo to Ogun to Ekiti which can't stand their SE counterparts...

SUBWAY101:
How is SW equals to APC. You mean the likes of Gbenga Daniel, Obanikoro, Fayose, Alao Akala, Mimiko, Omisore, Ladoja e.t.c are from the North or South East? You are being mischievous. Tinubu controls his SW APC and not SW, that was why GEJ won 40% of the SW. However, T.A Orji looted Abia dry, install a governor and he is still enjoying in the senate. Is that not Godfatherism? Was Peter Obi not Obiano Godfather before they had issues. Bigotry and hypocrisy is not good for you.

1)SW is equal to APC because of ACN...Osun is sinking with APC just like Oyo and Ogun are warming up to sink too with dead economy because of bigotry which tied them to ACN/APC ...

2)The people you listed are ridiculed and insulted online and offline by both elites and street urchins because they do not belong to ACN/APC...but chose to stay with PDP ...

3)Tinubu controls SW economy and media hence dictates what happens irrespective of consequence to masses...Hence Osun can kill anybody who challenges Aregbesola because he's loyal to Tinubu...

4)TA Orji was rejected in Abia and cannot move freely in Abia...He's being confronted by Abians till tomorrow... They stone and ridicule him at any given opportunity but SW worship Tinubu...

5)State a single instance that showed Peter Obi as godfather to anybody... Has he ever engaged in any confrontation aside skirmishes by their supporters? ...Peter Obi moved on alone without even a single supporter from APGA to PDP ...

Truth hurts bro but accept it...stomach infrastructure, amala politics, odourless fufu are all SW slogan

FolarinLondon:
Stop deceiving yourself with that "Nobody has to dictate".......


Igbos are like a city or Nation without a leader and that's why you are gradually becoming 4th class citizen in your own country where others could aspire to become or attain a certain political positions, but as an Igbo man, that position will continue to be a mirage.

Secondly, that your stupidd "Nobody dictates rhetoric" is a cover up for your repulsive attitude as a people who have failed over the years to come together to have a leader. Greediness and selfishness are the main reasons why Igbos are unable to choose a leader among themselves.

Finally, let me burst your bubbles by letting you know that all your present 5 states governors were hand picked by their predecessors. Does your Nobody rhetoric make sense in this instance? No i guess. 95% of your representatives in National assembly were forced on their constituencies. True or false? True i presumed.

A pointer to the fact that Igbos have become a joke among all the Nation's within a Nigeria state is having your Director called Nnamdi Kanu as your leader.

Every single Nation in the world has always had a leader.

Let me just oblige you a response...

1)Name any position NEVER occupied by an Igbo man before now? Which Yoruba man has ever being CBN governor

2)Who nominated Rochas Okorocha because his predecessor is Ohakim from another party? Who nominated Dave Umahi because his predecessor isn't his fan or supporter? Obiano won a transparent APGA election to succeed Obi and Anambra is better for it...

3)Compare this to SW states with debt burden spanning over 20years in the shortest... thanks to Tinubu stooges looting for him and themselves hence crumbling the states...

ayindejimmy:
Dapada!
Kindly REWIND that.

No Godfather in the SE you claimed?
I see you're a minor in the Nigerian politician terrain.

Remember the abduction of a sitting governor in Anambra by Chris Uba?

The current governor in Abia was installed by whom? Lemme help Theodore Orji.

The fact that all SE senators toll the same line shows someone is dictating to them.

So you want to tell me there's no one wit a different perception in the whole SE that they usually produce uniform decision.

From the last election, the only region I noticed wasn't polarized along ethnic line is the SW.

That being said. The issue here is basically about loyalty and reciprocating a good favour

Are we in history class? Did anybody bow to Uba then or now? Is Abia respecting or bowing to TA Orji how u do to Tinubu? Since independence, SW has voted along ethnic lines unending...What goes around comes around...what Tinubu sowed he's reaping ...

[quote author=morbeta post=38292937][/quote]Which politicians does Arthur Eze lord like Tinubu lords SW

SUBWAY101:
Are you a senator? How is this topic a SE Vs SW affair. Is APC equals to South West. T A Orji is a Godfather in Abia, running things with his son and family but you see nothing wrong there. If APC leaders decide to walk out one of there members, whats your own?

Abia doesn't bow to TA Orji like SW bows to Tinubu...it's a whole world of difference bro...you don't compare sleep to death...Godfatherism is the root of corruption... thanks

OlaSpeaker:
If you will be sincere with all fairness there is nothing "dictating" in what Tinubu did, as a politician irrespective of your ideology or believe the ideology of your party comes first reasons being
1) You know what the party ideology was or is before associating yourself with such party
2) Working against the party ideologies in the name of freedom of expression and what you believe in is nothing than an act of disrespect and disloyalty to the party
3) The party decision must be supreme
4) there is a clear difference between godfatherism and strict adherence to party's decision which in this case party supremacy is in contention
5) if party decisions are not obeyed there can't be discipline among members (politicians)
so please stop making this to look like SW SE thing. Yes, in politics godfatherism can not be taken away but in this case it is about the party

NASS are for elected members to conduct their activities with the parties reduced to mere advisory body...other issues you raised here doesn't interest me so I would rather ignore...thanks

OPCNAIRALAND:
You erred when you flipped this from being a collective issue and reducing it to "me", "my", "I".

In social justice when the next person to you is a victim of social injustice you can't stand aside and say "i have my freedom", "no one dictates to me".....if you continue in that mindset you will in a short timeframe loose your liberty as well.

Thanks...I love your post because injustice to one is injustice to all...it is him today maybe tomorrow it will be You or I...But checking the mindset of most people quoting me here which I would rather ignore, it comes to truth that they are comfortable with the statusquo or whatever injustice so far Tinubu is in charge ...Hence, I have to exonerate myself and enjoy my freedom for now

tobimillar:
Nna, this isn't about SE or SW, it's about loyalty... kanjiko?

Hmmm...Did I say that bro?

I only reiterated the joy of having my freedom whereby there's NO godfather to dictate to me what to do even when its against my conscience...Aren't godfathers holding sway in most parts of the country outside SE today...So how is my joy misplaced?

Aren't the actors in this drama here ALL APC... Why can't they be allowed as adults to support whomever they like or buy his idea so far it is within same party ...Isn't NASS supposed to be elected officials affairs devoid of interference by outside forces like Tinubu here?...What's impunity, corruption, godfatherism and imposition if not this

omenka:
This is what I call [b]display of foolishness in all its glory.

Are you even educated at all?? I don't wanna believe someone who attended at least primary school, could reason the way you do.

God forbid. I really thank God for my life. I could be many things, but I certainly could NEVER be as foolish and bigoted as this garrulous imp.

1)Is any region outside SE devoid of masses being subjected to such imposing leadership as Jagaban displayed here?...Is any region outside SE devoid of elected officials having to take orders from certain individuals even against their conscience and freedom as displayed by Tinubu here

2)The man you worship both online and offline named buhari, what is he? A nationalist or sectionally minded fellow

3)It's glaring that when you don't have answers to questions/issues, you resort to insults...but I won't return the favour

4)Finally, the wisdom of a sage is foolishness to a lunatic...Ponder on it and be wise bro...Good morning!!!

omenka:
Someway somehow, this bigot had to find a way to twist this into a SW and SE thing. You guys are so disgusting.

Useless talks like this is the reason I pray fervently that you people get your Biafra so we can sit by the sidelines and admire what a great country without blemish she would be transformed into in days.

However you twist it...I don't give a damn bro...

Fact remains that he was sent out of SW APC meeting because they felt he isn't loyal to SW APC but to NC APC...So where's the freedom of expression and association

SW APC still continues to ignore our Senate president because they felt he snubbed their lord and master to become Senate president...

Finally, should Biafra come today, I pity you and your people most...You claim ignorant and keep cowardly silence while ethnic cleansing and butchering is ongoing in your home state...Lagos can NEVER be your state of origin...Benue is bro...speak up!!!...there's NOTHING as sweet and refreshing as FREEDOM...

bettercreature:
We need saint! infact we need over a million,south africa is good today because white people stayed till 1990s,black mentality are very low and corruption is the only problem destroying african countries,a situation where road constructed in 1970s are better than road constructed in the years 2000s moreover you guys should stop talking about jonathan,this is a man who single handedly destroyed Nigeria to the extent that federal and state government were not able to pay salaries again,and man who was sharing dollars in thousand just to win election,We South-westerners dont hate jonathan we just voted him out because he almost destroyed Nigeria beside we massively voted for him in 2011

My last reply to you on this...

1)You're not realistic...Keep up your story telling anyway...btw You love Tinubu who has raped your regional and local economy to coma via his cronies and companies but hate Jonathan a federal executive which isn't a grassroot government...

2)Before you keep consoling yourself that it is Jonathan who killed SW states economy...Kindly check out other states under same Jonathan leadership eg Anambra...

3)SW since independence has voted along ethnic line...Tinubu disagreement with buhari in 2011 made SOME SW to vote Jonathan... http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-why-pdp-will-lose

4)Do you need me to get you a mat as you await your imaginary saint

5)What did Aregbesola share again?... Ajimobi nko?... what about Jagaban? https://www.naij.com/340944-who-is-sharing-dollars-at-the-apc-presidential-primary.html

bettercreature:
Are you talking about Jonathan who spent 6.6billion naira on independent celebration or who? you guys are blind because of the hatred you have for PMB,corruption is our number one problem,i dont even know the saint who is going to build the institution you are talking about when almost 98 percent of Nigerian citizen are corrupt

Don't be ridiculous bro...

1)Nigeria doesn't need any saint to build institutions or to restructure...

2)Whatever amount spent on any celebration is subject to NASS appropriation ...

3)Why does police still steal and vandals roam about and treasury still looted after Jonathan left

4)I believe you love Jonathan so much unlike me that hates buhari according to you, that you remembered how much he spent on celebration but forgot how much he saved us by stopping the unending story of fertilizer scam etc in Nigeria ...smh

Thank God I am from SE where my freedom is guaranteed... with NOBODY having to dictate to my conscience and deeds even as an adult irrespective of our political leanings...

azzima:
Sadly , you did not attempt to confront or attend to the veracity of the post. The question to be asked is "are there on going investigation about the $2.2 million illegal refund to Gavi by NOI "??the answer is a confirmed YES SS. Instead ,you are foaming in the mouth talking gibberish.

Since you aren't talking gibberish...Why not do a comparative analysis of cost benefit of consulting by lazard as against debt forgiveness secured?...Extend same favour to Gavi refund stating both sides of the story and cost/benefit implications to Nigeria...

ichoku:
Who is Omoyele Sowore

Saharareporters proprietor

Volksfuhrer:
Nobody is saying she didn't do some good. I could never have been a fan anyway if I hadn't seen some good in her. But she looked on as financial crimes were perpetrated under her watch. For instance, the NNPC issue clearly showed she wasn't on top of her job as finance minister! Or perhaps she knew about the whole affair but looked away. Whichever way you want to see it, she should have left GEJ's government to protect her integrity. Instead she became a politician and stayed.

..smh...What would she do in NNPC?

Do you know about the law setting up NNPC and its autonomy

What about other revenue agencies like FIRS?...

I hope you educate yourself about rules of administration of certain specialized agencies before insulting or castigating people...

bettercreature:
Delete number 8 or prove it

Because we allow our sentiments via media and politicians to think for us, we refuse to do some critical thinking...APC hoodwinked lots of folk because they allowed APC to do the thinking for them for whatever myopic reason...

Nigeria as it is today is structured to fail...our problem like Op stated isn't necessarily in the faces in Nigeria as Buhari/APC lies always, but in the structure as Jonathan told us by insisting that we build strong institutions not strong individuals...Confab restructured Nigeria a little bit if report is implemented but buhari won't implement it because of his sectional mindset...

If our structure is right with appropriate institutions then most of the problems will melt away with nobody even lifting a finger against them...