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makydebbie:
You just dey know?

Opakan2:
Odetemu or Chukwutemu

as it stands now, it's PMB & PYO till 2023

sarrki:
I Disagree your highness

It should be if he did not perform

Pykid:
start with what , do you know what you're saying ... then after learning C you go back to c++ ..lulz

wheezyoung:
baba I love all good creations...no blame me...babe fine gan

wheezyoung:
pm.allowed ?

DeepFriedPuff:
[color=violet] apparently I'm famous [/color]

makydebbie:
I'll start pooing

ALMUSTAQIM:
ALL THOSE WHO WISH OUR PRESIDENT BAD HAVE BEEN NOTED .

THEY WILL BE CONTACTED SOONEST

OTHERS WILL LEARN LESSON FROM THEM.

WhiZTiM:
"C++ isn't hard" - That is something I am not too quick to agree with, but I'll contextually agree with you.

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Sir, I beg to differ. PHP is not a child of C. They probably share some syntax similarities, but they are two different languages.
The idea that one language is a child/subset/similar/etc to another is a contributing factor to makes Software Developers write bad code.
It's the way I see people who lump up C and C++ as "C/C++" which annoys me.

The point is, every language in use today has its norms, idioms and patterns that results in highly performant(with respect to the Compiler's/Interpreter's strengths), scale-able and human and maintainable code;

Taking language X's patterns/idioms to language Y will likely result into very poor code (in terms of performance and maintainability). While it may be relatively easy for us (existing Software developers) to pick up a new language, we still have to learn the working ideas of that new language.

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" - of cause, to some extent

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Sir, I don't think that's the only thing that makes C++ different. Its a beast in its own class. C++ (especially newer standards) tries hard to be the language for costless abstraction. And to some degree, its has succeeded, and tremendous evolution (by the ISO C++ standards committee) are still on going to make it relevant tomorrow.

"...c++ is a more free world, you know what's going under the hook.." - Trust me, you don't always know what is under the hood. But you are right, some things happen under the hood we that we don't always anticipate.

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I learned Punch Card programming in about 2 hours and was asked to debug and add new features to some 40 year old NASA software... I asked them to stack up the punch cards forming a straight large fence spanning a kilometer plus. I then stepped back 785.2541 meters and demanded for an AK47 rifle. I set the rifle to full auto-fire, held down trigger and shot additional holes into the punch cards thereby fixing the bugs and adding new features. I only released the trigger when I needed to reload.

Go And Come Back No More” – Nigerians React After News Of President Buhari’s 2 Weeks Vacation Broke (Photos)

Trust Nigerians, things like this would make their fingers go wild as many has taken to twitter to slam the Nigerian President, Muhammadu Buhari after making announcement on his official twitter account that he’s living the nation for United Kingdom for two weeks vacation as part of his annual leave.

http://gist.greennews.ng/2017/01/19/no-chill-go-come-back-no-nigerians-react-news-president-buharis-2-weeks-vacation-broke-photos/

asalimpo:
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The first sign i was tackling a fool was when you made this blunder of equating those who code in higher level languages as being somewhat intellectually inferior.
So a java developer is inferior to ppl who write kernel drivers or what?
Or assembly language or writing low level drivers is inscrutable to those who code in higher languages?
You are advertising your foolishness. Like i said, reasoning properly isn't your strong suit.

Any motivate person could learn anything, there's no magic to assembly or low level driver writing.
But why would they? They maybe just too busy with their current jobs.
A front end developer working 10+ hours a day may have no interest in learning technology for the sake of being cool or acquiring knowledge. He has enough problems keeping up with the plethora of frameworks and changes in his field already. You just dont get it because you're dense. People have other things to occupy themselves with. If they want their learnng
to end at using higher level languages, fine. A kindergaten kid could understand this.
You just dont. Morons like you only know how to degenerate into senseless cussing instead of addressing the point raised.
remember the initial point:
Should a java noob understand the command line for programming or not
You started ranting senselessly about c, and drivers and how i may not understand!
Completely irrelevant drivel.
Like i said, go learn how to reason straight first.[/s]

I would advise if you are gonna be a master of Java, C#, smalltalk, and c++, you must study C, that way you get to understand things correctly in java, and try to get used to using an IDE I think after few weeks of using the cmd or terminal (in linux)

Good luck coding java.

onedayatime:
noting is wrong when arguements arises from forum posts or debates. It is healthy. When it goes wrong is when its goes personal just like you have done. It is bad and its uncalled for, immature and childish. When attempting to answer or help people, go straight and be specific. We call what you just did showboating(un-necessary comments). A simple question was asked and it needs a straight forward answer and yet you gave irrelevant answer to the question. Instead of taking corrections, you kept bragging about your achievements(which nobody asked for).

Wiseandtrue:
This is what a lot of ladies go through. May God bless you for speaking out.

Unprofessional leaders everywhere. The funniest is the most of these people have wife(ves) and kids at home.

Tomorrow now them go say na person dey pursue them from their village

How do you want your children's life to be better or your home to be peaceful when you are destroying the lives of others

Vengeance is crying

philsss:
Am still wondering how you learnt PHP a day...
Is dt possible??

asalimpo:
Like i said, good luck reasoning str8!
I dont have time to get trade words with anoda immature forum poster.
The worst kind of people to argue with are those who degenerate into emotional feats leaving logic and reasoning.
Go to hacker news, SO and see how people argue, disagree and fight(if i may use the word).

E day pain you say i know pass you - Did you read where i said, they're specialties within I.T and gaining mastery in any subfield takes time even lifetimes? Go think about that phrase. It will do you much good.
So you write kernel drivers for fun, since age 3, does that make you better than the moderators that keep nairaland going at the back end so that you can come here and advertise your immaturity? Without those mods or the admins, or the database admins doing mumu work at the back end they'd b no nairaland and you wouldnt enjoy this service for FREE!! . You'r better than nobody. You just play your part and they play theirs that's how modern societies work. so dont look down on nobody. As for your kernel drivers , they world is yet to see what you've come up with. Linus gave us linux, stallman man gave gnu compilers and emacs. What are you going to give us with all your kernel driver knowledge? Or is only bragging that you know bla and bla that you'll do? Grow up.

asalimpo:
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Your response was completely irrelevant.
You should have kept it within context.

this is what i said, and i was adressing a noob.

At least this is not assembly language or C, that you could say the fear is understandable, this is just javac <file> or java <class>

The question was, should a noob begin from the command line or an ide.
My response was to that question. All the talk about kernel drivers and i wouldnt understand is childish drivel.
They're are specialties tech. In the end, no matter what you know, you still only know a drop in the ocean of knowledge in tech. It would take you a lifetime to even get to expert levels in any field. I mean even the fields you look down on. Stay humble and dont get snooty. It will take you far in your career.

Good luck reasoning straight.[/s]

C isn't too hard, except you getting into misunderstood harder things like WIN32 and objective C (cocoa) then you find out that it's hard, compared to c++ which has very misunderstood libraries, even when learning itself. I code C and compile in c++. I write kernel mode drivers and use the OSR loader to load into 32bit processes. For 64bit I have to disable patch guard to run my driver. As 64 bit has kpp protection. This is advanced for you, so don't bother looking into it.

The part of Assembly which is say difficult may be HLA (high level assembler), Nasm, masm,fasm almost follow the same syntax, but he won't be needing that, he's not doing reverse engineering or low level programming, so don't worry.

I been coding in C, and java I didn't find it hard, the only part which may seem hard is when you using swing classes, awt (appletviewer), or maybe using ADT for Android(where you get to understand xml, and the activity inheritance whatever, and code simultaneously) as beginners, other than that if you understand basic java, you can code android using ADT.

I would advise if you are gonna be a master of Java, C#, smalltalk, and c++, you must study C, that way you get to understand things correctly in java, and try to get used to using an IDE I think after few weeks of using the cmd or terminal (in linux)

Good luck coding java.