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[quote author=sonmvayina post=110331715]Most people who read those gospel stories do so from the point of the reader rather than the speaker. Jesus was talking to his disciples not you, the reader. So they are the ones meant to witness those events. Not you that is reading it 2000+ years later..even Paul thought it was going to be imminent. Well , this is 2000 years no sign of heavenly invasion. How wrong you are! Jesus christ himself said that the Gospel will be preached to the whole world before his 2nd coming, and of that day or hour no one knows except God. |
This is what was said about scoffers like you; Jude 1:17-20 [17] But remember, my friends, what you were told in the past by the apostles of our Lord Jesus christ.[18]they said to you, ''when the last days come, people will appear who will mock you, people who follow their own godless desires.''[19]these are the people who cause divisions, who are controlled by their natural desires, who do not have the spirit[20] but you, my friends, keep on building yourselves up on your most sacred faith. Pray in the power of the Holy Spirit. 2peter 3:3-8 first of all you must understand that in these last days some people will appear whose lives are controlled by their own lusts. They will mock you [4] and will ask, ''He promised to come, didn't he? Where is he? Our ancestors have died, but everything is still the same as it was...[8] but do not forget one thing, my dear friends! There is no difference in the lord's sight between one day and a thousand years; to him the two are the same. |
AntiChristian:thank God we are not in exam hall. Apparently; this que. is ambigous, so you don't just expect me to start quoting Jesus where he literally said we should worship him or he is God, it will be unwise of me having learnt my lessons, and i just told you that i 've dealt with this question before. Now this is my point, if i show you where Jesus said so you will not take it; so there is no need, because the bible you are quoting in order to disaprove our faith and tell us that Jesus said this and that is like a garbage to you, you dont believe in it, so stop ur persecutions and focus on ur religion, worship God the way u were taught and don't try to stop others or make mockery of them. I stay with muslims and we leave peacefully, with strong affinity. Selah. |
AntiChristian:lol. Then this que. is to be regarded as an absurd and obosolete piece. It's you that's seeing diversions, there is no diversion here, infact in the real sense it's simple logic which you termed illogical, and i just asked you a simple question so as to enable me answer you correctly And i have my reasons. I remember back then in a facebook group; they raised this same questions quoting same bible passages, fortunately, we dealt with it bibliogically and otherwise with crystal clear proves, only for them to start ranting and aggradizing their empty and self-contradicting inuitions. I will advise you guys to stop quoting and misinterpreting some bible passages just to astute, and setting an event for unending arguments. The truth is; if i start showing you what you asked, you will divert to an incoherent and insubstantial arguments, whereas you were the one that quoted bible verses in order to prove a point. |
AntiChristian:You re' not getting me i guess. Generally, does islam believe that the Bible ve' been corrupted YES/NO? |
The same Bible you believe 've been corrupted is what u 're quoting and proving to be true . Now My question; if u really believe those verses you are quoting in order to suite your beliefs and ideas then why not believe the rest i mean... the bible as a whole? and if those verses you re' emphasising on, are true does it mean the Bible is authentic and still valid? if you have an answer then i will gladly show you where Jesus said he is God and should be worshipped. |
God is beyond human comprehension. But what i know is that, on the last day every secret shall be made known. Let the blinded fellows contuine... |
Amen, Hallelujah! I connet with faith... |
Romans 9:13-21 as the scripture says, i loved jacob, but i hated Esau. [14] shall we say, then that, God is unjust not at all. [15] for he said to Moses ''i will have mercy on anyone I wish; I will take pity on anyone i wish.'' [16] so then, everything depends, not on what human beings want or do, but only on God's mercy.[17] for the scripture says to the king of Egypt i made you king in order to use you to show my power over the whole world and to spread my fame over the whole world. [18] so then God has mercy on anyone he wishes, and he makes stubborn anyone he wishes.[19] but one of you will say to me ''if this is so, how can God find fault with anyone? Who can resist God's will? [20] But who are you, my friend to answer God back? A clay pot does not ask the man who made it, why did you make me like this?[21] After all, the man who makes the pot has the right to use the clay as he wishes, and to make pots from the same lump of clay, one for special occasions and the other for ordinary use. |
Mr. Man why all these hatred for christianity? and what do you stand to gain if christianity collapse and vanish from the face of the earth? Answer these simple questions to begin with |
SisterFire:Ma, it's not about the language and the errors but the message thereof. I believe that's the type u want, and please don't pretend u made no sense out it. |
SisterFire:you don't know what you are saying. that you ate the forbidden fruit does'nt mean you should always astute events to favor your puffed mind. if you're not shrewd in the righteousness of God, just bear in mind that all your barbaric and void philosophy encompassing the pattern of your rationales for not believing and adhering to the authentic default of the universe is to be regarded as the theory of an ignorant and blinded fellow. wise up and use your wisdom to the glory of God. it pays to know the truth but it's worth it. |
[quote author=tctrills post=109787380]Your point is that the Father sent the Holy Spirit to conceive Mary? That would make Jesus Christ the son of the Holy Spirit?[/quote Holy spirit is the power or the spirit of God. Genesis 1:2-3 ''the earth was formless and desolate. the raging ocean that covered everything was engulfed in total darkness, and the *spirit* of God was moving over the water [3] then God commanded ''let there be light'' ---and light appeared.'' God gives commands and Holy spirit makes effect on the command. Without the holy spirit the word of God will be dormant and inactive. since the creation of the world, the holy spirit is always present to make what God says happen. lets say for e.g. water,at 0 ¤C cannot be used to do some things such as, pap, eba, custard etc. but the same water at 100 ¤C, Which is the boiling point, can be used to do those things and even more. The only diff. is steam. but it still remains water. Meaning that God+holy spirit=God. .'. Jesus is the son of God |
tctrills:you 've already answered ur quest. From ur quote. Let me just add thus, it's the spirit that gives life to the word. Now This is what i mean; the father spoke the word through angel Gabriel, N:B (Jesus is the word) and for the word to be incarnated there 've to be a supernatural force from the father that gives life, and that force is the HOLY SPIRIT. The power of the most high that overshadowed her is the HOLY SPIRIT. |
Niflheim:This thread is not for kids. Let me ask you, what do gain by trying to paint christianity black? I Just went through ur profile and all ur topics are false news, blackmails and blasphemies against the church. What do u stand to gain if ur will comes to pass? |
killyaselfie:Lol. |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=109650482]We learn not only through the letters but by meditating thoroughly on events recorded in the Bible because it's the handiwork of God's Holy Spirit! 2Corinthians 3:6 If no miracles were recorded as performed by any other race apart from the Israelites and Jesus said: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:24 Remember Jesus is the person who will approve whatever we ask from his father, here he is saying regarding miracles he is sent only to the Israelites! That's why miraculous works stopped after the destruction of Jerusalem because the race God promised miraculous works has been dismissed! 1Corinthians 13:8-10 Today the only sign left to IDENTIFY true believers is LOVE! John 13:34-35; 1Corinthians 13:13 Bro. Stop misinterpring the Bible, it's not fair. |
killyaselfie:God have mercy |
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advanceDNA:Best comment so far. |
killyaselfie:Why change the spelling of God to dog? U don't have to go this extreme. Pls modify it, becos it's eye sore. |
There are over 41,000 sects claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in the name of denominations. Each of them have practical application of their brand of Christianity. Going to Church (worship centers) to pray, sing, dance, shout some slogans and pay some dues. Anyone attending such centers can claim being a Christian since those worshiping there called the place "Church" But when Jesus commissioned this movement he ordered his followers to carry out a task which inhabitants of Antioch noticed before they called Jesus' disciples "CHRISTIANS" {Act 11:26} Remember the group is called "CHRISTIANS" so you must be recognized with the group practicing what Jesus laid down before you can truly claim you belong to CHRIST. I gave u my explanations based on ur maturity and sagaciousity, becos i believed u're eating solid food and not milk, but it seems u made no sense out of it. So then Elaborate what Jesus laid down and differentiate it from what i gave you |
killyaselfie:That's your intuition i guess. It actually means that God is not made up of matter and therefore, not restricted by time and space. He is outside of the space. |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=109615268]Everything you put up here is more or less a form of THEORY before any listener/reader. When you talk about a concept and you want people around you to perceive what you're saying since it's invisible, you must present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION that's visible and the BENEFITS derived through such application. Your claim of being a Christian the back and forth journey to Atheism shows you have nothing PRACTICAL to back up your assertion. What practical back up you need? Jesus said: "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} fruits comes from trees so Jesus is here telling us that there are visible WORKS to prove that you have FAITH or not! James 2:18-26 |
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LordReed:your instinct is Totally wrong, common! to what end? Haba! Is it because it's a faceless forum, thats why you type whatever you feel |
Tunechi5:believers do not walk by sight but by faith. Seeing indeed is believing, but that's the earthly language. In christianity reverse is the case. Thus, believing is seeing, if you dont believe you are blind and can never see. |
LordReed:'money is physical substance that serves physical purpose' no objections. Now who or what is God? God is a spirit being. And what does that mean? It means that God is timeless, spaceless and matterless, he is not a physical entity that should be placed in the laboratory for scientists to experiment. This implies that a spiritual substance must be involved to get to this being and that substance is FAITH. Faith is the established route to God. That was why i compared the two, (earthly) 'money' and (heavenly) 'faith'. Faith is the heavenly currency. |
Workch:sir, life is a mystery. This unexplainable hatred for God is also a symptom of the forbidden fruit, but the Good news! Is that, Jesus never gives up on us no matter how many time we fail. |
Workch:my brother it's very serious. can you pls let out those things that makes you believe there's no God, let me clear it out for. i really pray you join me soon #God is real |
1Sharon:i'm not surprised at all, because that was exactly what some christian counterpart said when i denounced christainity. Go check my previous topics. Infact there was a point in time in my life that i was very certain that the concept of God was rubbish and man-made, How i got delivered still puzzled me, if i were'nt a real atheist before nothing would've prompted me to open my previous threads. Nevertheless it's well my sister i know you may never understand |
jesusjnr2020:how do you mean sir! |

