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The only reason I even agreed that the homosexual lifestyle is disease ridden is because I got sick of your silly arguments.

I've explained to you that most of them enjoy back-door entry without condoms. Once they all start using condoms we won't talk about STDs.

And I sure that you also realize that STDs are spread more rapidly among heterosexuals than homosexuals.

Maybe we should start jailing those who engage in pre-marital sex and those who cheat on their partners also. We could also put a regulation that anyone who has sex without condoms should be jailed.

Donjazzy12: @bolded, you acknowledge the Homosexual lifestyle is disease ridden yet you want your country to give it legal backing?
Now we know the enemies of Nigeria.

Man the diseases are among themselves. You should have said all Lepers, HIV positive humans e.t.c should be jailed.

And if you believe homosexuals spread diseases more than heterosexuals, then you must be re.tarded

ravgach: @wnma: Please check out the report below:

There is no doubt the Bible declares homosexual conduct is sin (Romans 1:26-28).

i. The Bible condemns homosexuality in the same context as it condemns incest and bestiality (Leviticus 18:22, 20:13). If we ignore the word of God at the point of homosexual conduct, then we have no standing to say any of the other three sins are sin.

ii. Homosexual advocates have an interest in saying homosexuals are exactly like everyone else, except they love and have sex with people of their own gender. Yet when the conduct of homosexuals is observed, this is not the case.

iii. We can look at the statistics on the number of partners homosexuals have: 43% of homosexuals say they have had 500 or more sexual partners in their lifetime. Only 1% of homosexuals say they have had four or less sexual partners in their lifetime. According to the United States Department of Health and Human Services, 77% of homosexuals say they have met sexual partners in a city park, 62% in a homosexual bar, 61% in a theater, 31% in a public restroom. Only 28% of homosexuals said they had known their partners for at least a week before participating in homosexual sex.

iv. Undoubtedly, one of the reasons why males pursue and give in to homosexual desires is because they want to immerse themselves in a lifestyle of dangerous sex with no inhibitions or obstacles, and sense that sex with other men is an easier path to this. No wonder Paul connects “burning lust” and a debased mind with male homosexuality in Romans 1:27-28.

v. Homosexuals also have an interest in saying that up to 10% of the population is homosexual. But the most reliable statistics show only 2.3% of men in their 20’s and 30’s report ever having had a homosexual experience. Only 1.1% reported being exclusively homosexual. These low figures agree with several other surveys and those conducted in Britain and France.

vi. Homosexuals also have an interest in saying they were “born that way.” All attempts thus far to prove this have been based more on wishful thinking than solid biological research, but if it is found to be the case, so what? The Bible teaches we are all born with a predisposition to sin. It shouldn’t surprise us that some 2% of the population finds this predisposition expressed in homosexual desire.

vii. Homosexuals also have an interest in defining themselves as “gay,” a word that used to mean “happy” or “carefree,” but it is a poor description of a lifestyle that has such a high rate of death, disease, and suicide.

I leave you to your judgment if you still have any remaining.

Don't even bring the Bible into this. Not everyone is a Christian. We have Muslims, pagans, e.t.c

Prove that the homosexuals are more promiscuous than the heterosexuals.

Even they are its not a valid point why two gays/lesbians sleeping with each other in their private room should be jailed.

Donjazzy12: ONE THING THE HOMOSEXUALS HAVE NOT BEEN UNABLE TO EXPLAIN IS THE BIOLOGICAL PURPOSE OF THEIR LUNACY!

WE HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A DISEASE RIDDEN LIFESTYLE THAT ENCOURAGES PROMISCUITY.

NOW WHAT USEFUL PURPOSE DOES THE HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE SERVE?

APART FROM DISEASES LIKE HIV, ANAL CANCERS AND INCREASED RATE OF BOSOM CANCERS WHAT IS THE THAT USEFUL PURPOSE HOMOSEXUALITY PROVIDES?

THE WHOLE WORLD HAS BEEN BEDEVILED WITH ALL MANNER OF ILLS , WHY DID A WHOLE COUNTRY'S PRIME MINISTER(DAVID CAMERON) SEE HOMOSEXUALITY AS THE ONLY VIRTUE WORTH EXPORTING TO AFRICAN COUNTRIES?

WHY DOES THE WESTERN PRESS DO SO MUCH TO SUPPRESS THE DAMNING REPORTS OF OBVIOUS DANGERS OF HOMOSEXUALITY/

IF NOT THE DEVIL , WHOSE AGENDA ARE THEY SERVING?

WHY SHOULD NIGERIA GIVE ITS BACKING TO A LIFESTYLE THAT HAS NO KNOWN BENEFITS TO ANYBODY, A LIFE STYLE THAT GUARANTEES ONLY DISEASES AND PROMISCUITY?

WHY DO GULLIBLE NIGERIANS LIKE @wman GET EASILY DERAILED INTO SWALLOWING HOOK LINE AND SINKER THE SILLY ARGUMENTS FROM THE WEST IN SUPPORT OF HOMOSEXUAL LUNACY?

All the arguments I gave you were mine. I don't care about any bullshi.t western propaganda.

David Cameron made motions toward terrorism, diseases in Africa, Economic activicties, Security, Women Empowerment e.t.c in Africa. Now you say the only virtue he exported was Homosexualism, I can clearly see how unbiased you are.


Alright fine the homosexual lifestyle is disease ridden. We don hear. Leave them alone to their disease ridden lifestyle as you called it. Its not your business. Shikena.

Pazienza I swear I'll buy you two bottles of your favourite drink. You too make sense.

O.p This is silly
Did they teach you to argue without facts?
Are those buying the S4 complaining?
Why not say First class is a waste of money and everyone should fly Economy class?
No one should build a duplex and everyone should build a bungalow.

May God deliver you from Poverty.

This is good news for the Tecnocrats.





#TeamSamsung

Donjazzy12: [/b]
HOW DOES THE BOLDED CONCERN YOU PERSONALLY?

It affects the young child. He is too young to have sex according to the laws of the land. Many children grow up to have traumas caused by them having sex at a young age.
Think about the 8 year old girl whose vagi.na is too tight & would get bruised by such encounters.

2 lesbians/gays having sex bring harm to only themselves.
The STDs are shared among them. You only catch it if you were so foolish as to have unprotected sex with them.

porka: No, they will be prosecuted., including life imprisonment in some states.

In the United States the District of Columbia and every state, except Rhode Island, have some form of codified incest prohibition.[40] However, individual statutes vary widely. Rhode Island repealed its criminal incest statute in 1989,[40] Ohio only targets parental figures,[40] and New Jersey does not apply any penalties when both parties are 18 years of age or older.[40] A conviction for incest attracts the following penalties by state:

5 years imprisonment in Hawaii
10 years imprisonment in North Dakota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, and Minnesota
14 years imprisonment in California, Oregon, Washington, Alaska and Idaho
15 years imprisonment in Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia and West Virginia
20 years imprisonment in Massachusetts, New York, New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, and Vermont
25 years imprisonment in Kansas, Nebraska, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Wyoming, Iowa, Illinois, Indiana and Kentucky
Life imprisonment in Florida, Georgia,[41] Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee.

Three convictions or more of incest also require the offenders to register as "Sex Offenders"

In all states, close blood-relatives that fall under the incest statutes include:

Father
Mother
Grandfather
Grandmother
Brother
Sister
Aunt
Uncle
Niece
Nephew

In some states, sex between first cousins is prohibited. The cousin marriage law in the United States by state article has a table which shows that cousin sex as well as cousin marriage is outlawed in some states.

Rhode Island allows uncles to marry their nieces if they are part of a community, such as orthodox Jews, for whom such marriages are permitted. Many states also apply incest laws to non-blood relations, including stepparents, step-siblings, and in-laws.

Check here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_regarding_incest

Give us a reason why a p.edophile who does it in his room should be jailed as you suggested.

Thanks for the link. I really appreciate it, it enlightened me a lot on ince.st laws around the world.
I'm sure when you read through you also realise that 90% of the countries mentioned do not persecute for those who are 18 years old above.

Pedo.philes should be persecuted because they are having sex with people who are not of legal age and are too young to have sex.

Donjazzy12: GOOD,
That somebody caused you bodily harm does not concern anybody else. It is not anybody's problem but yours in your oblique thinking.
The case of pedophilia with a parent should also not be any body's problem. How does it really affect the government? Why set an age of consent? What if the child actually wants to sleep with his father or mother, why should the government interfere on the child's rights?
People sniff cocaine in their private residents and yet the government bans it? why?
Why does the government harp about substance abuse? doesn't the citizen have the right to take exactly what he wants?
WHY IS THE GOVERNMENT INTERESTED IN YOUR LIFESTYLE AS AN INDIVIDUAL?

On Hard Drugs
-It has caused the addiction of many.
- Many have lost jobs because of it
-In so many cases of rape and other crimes worldwide the use of drugs was a factor involved.
-So many drug lords and drug traffickers deal in illegal use of arms.
-Processing of these drugs cause harmful effects to the environment e.g that village in the news where their whole drinking water was polluted by the processing of these drugs.
- So many celebs have wasted their careers due to drug use e.g Jenna Jameson, Lindsay Lohan, Macaulay Culkin(Home Alone), Majek Fashek e.t.c
- Many criminals use it before perpetrating their evil deeds to wipe their conscience and enable them perform inhumane acts.
-E.t.c e.t.c

Donjazzy12: Tell us why the guy who comes into your room and beats you black and blue should be jailed.

Donjazzy12: @ wman tell us why a man making love to his daughter should be jailed.
Tell us why a mother and under aged son sleeping together in their rooms should be jailed.

The man who comes into my room and beats me:
-invades my privacy
-hurt me
-cause me injuries and body harm
-makes me spend much on hospital bills

A woman sleeping with her underage son

-consentual age for sex is 18/21 years old
- The child is not old enough to know right from wrong
-In the US the adult would be prosecuted


A 30 year old woman sleeping with her 55 year old father.
-In the US they won't be prosecuted since they are both of legal age and its consensual.

Now give me reasons why 2 lesbians/gays sleeping with each other in their private room should be jailed.

Porka and Donjazzy12 tell us why 2 lesbians/gays sleeping with each other in their private room should be sentenced to jail for 14 years.

porka: Again, statement like this explains why a pander will continue to have more value than some blacks in the opinion of their gods.

Homosexuality is your greatness? It is sickening.

Explain how homosexualism is the greatest corruption in the world.

Donjazzy12: PLEASE TELL US WHY DEFENDING AN ACT(HOMOSEXUALITY) WHICH YOU CLAIM IS WRONG IS YOU HEADACHE?

TELL US WHY YOU HAVE NEVER SPENT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO DEFEND THE POOR MASSES IN NIGERIA BUT YOU WILL GO TO THIS LENGTH TO DEFEND GAY IDEOLOGY?

TELL US WHY DEFENDING A LIFESTYLE THAT DONATED HIV TO THE WORLD AND INCREASES THE RISK OF OTHER DISEASES IS YOUR HEADACHE?

Omo I just dey argue with dull people. No reasonable analogy.
Why do we argue?
Why do we argue about C Ronaldo and Messi?
Why do we make comparisons?

iyeyemi: Again, statements like this one explains why we will never be a great nation.

Thank you I wonder how someone in his right senses would say homosexualism is the worst form of corruption in the world. Shows how smart the person is.

porka: Oh, you are a christian?

James 2:19

How does someone's murder, kidnapping etc affect you personally if it's not you or your relation?

For Obatala's sake it would affect the relations of the person. The murder of the breadwinner of a family could impoverish the whole family e.t.c

I don't even have to start giving you more examples, you are intelligent enough to figure more out yourself.

Tell me how 2 gays/lesbians sleeping with themselves in their personal room is your headache.

Donjazzy12: How does one sleeping with your wife or girlfriend affect you personally? After all she and her lover are entitled to their freedom.
How does somebody beating you up affect the police personally? They are not the ones attacked.
How does somebody killing you right now affect any of us personally? We don't even know you

Donjazzy12: If you still do not understand how the gay lifestyle affects you as a person then, you shouldn't be here really. They spread diseases. Most of them still cross over and sleep with the opposite sex. Their life style donated a degenerative disease that is costing the world billions in Dollars and many lives and you still do not understand the effect their lifestyle poses? You really shouldn't be here. If we use your analogy then a crime is only a crime if it affects you personally. That also means the police should not arrest anybody who did not steal from them personally. They should not come to your aid if somebody defrauds you because it does not affect them personally. The list goes on and on. You are the one who needs education!

God I can't believe a reasonable human being is arguing like this. So you still don't understand?
The whole shit you typed above shows how intelligent you are.
So with all I typed you couldn't understand my point?

A thief, murderer, kidnapper affects someone in the society negatively
A thief stealing your property would ruin you and make you unhappy (It affects you negatively and it affects all parties involved negatively)
A murderer kills you ( Your whole family, friends, colleagues e.t.c are affected)

Even a 6 year old understands all these.
Did you go to school at all?
How old are you?

For the umpteenth time tell me how two gays/lesbians sleeping with themselves in their personal room affects you or any one else personally.

Don't even start about diseases that only affect the gays/lesbians personally.

Donjazzy12: So each man has a right to do what you know is wrong(Homosexuality and 1nscest). (In SAGAMITE's Voice) You are a confirmed person!

I'm a christian and I believe the following are wrong.

-Lying
-Premarital sex
-Masturbati.on
-Drinking to stupor e.t.c

So because I believe they are wrong should I say no man has a right to do them?
Should I say any man that does the above should be prosecuted.
No man! I can only tell them to stop it. I can't enforce it because It doesn't affect me personally it is their personal sin and has no effect in my personal life.


Now look at the following sins:
-Stealing
-Kidnapping
-Murder e.t.c

These would affect my personal life negatively and others so I believe those who engage in such should be prosecuted.

If you say homosexuals should be prosecuted on religious and moral grounds and you say those who lie, masturbat.e, should not then you are the greatest hypocrite in the world.

Sagamite: Amsorry.

How does crime justify the banning of something that should be a civil right?

Would you say Islam should be banned because many suicide bombers and terrorists are muslims?

Or you would say just address the suicide bombers and terrorists?

That is why I told him to come up with a better analogy. Read my post again I told him I do not have anything against prostitution. I only gave him some side effects.

He thinks I'm anti-prostitution which I'm not.

Donjazzy12 I never insulted you and yet you continue to do the same. Shows how matured you are. You couldn't even maintain a simple argument without using insults to buttress your point.

I asked you to give me an example of how 2 gays/lesbians sleeping with each other affects you personally, you keep on mentioning and emphasizing diseases that are passed from gay to gay and do not affect you if you do not sleep with them.

Is this question too difficult for you to comprehend and give a reasonable answer to?

Tell me how two lesbians/gays sleeping in a room affect you personally.

Do not give me some bullshit answer regarding diseases that affect the gays/lesbians themselves.

Show me you have something in your brain and can comprehend a simple question.

porka: How does prostitution affect you as a person?

I replied someone in one of my previous posts. Prostitution is not banned in so many countries in the world and I don't think it should be banned and yet there are so many side effects e.g Trafficking. So many girls involved in prostitution are as a result of human trafficking. Underaged girls also are involved in prostitution also. Many involved in the prostitution industry are also involved in drugs e.t.c

Still I'm not against it. So don't ask me how prostitution affects me as a person. Come up with a right analogy.

porka: How does i n c e s t affect you as a person?

Or are you accepting of i n c e s t as well?

I believe Incest is wrong and I believe homosexual-ism is wrong also. But I also believe each man has a right to do what he deems fit in his personal room

A 30 year old man sleeping with his 30 year old sister is not my business as long as it is consensual. Even though it is wrong to me, It is not my business. I dare not enforce my religious/moral belief on anyone.

A father sleeping with his young daughter should be arrested as the girl is too young to know wrong from right.

But a 30 year old woman and her 65 year old father sleeping together is repulsive to me but it is none of my business as they are both of legal age.

Donjazzy12 We all know that most gays prefer penetration without condoms. If they all used condoms all these won't happen.

So the only point you could bring out was STDs which is gay to gay.

You should have also said that government should imprison anyone who has sex without condoms

Still waiting for a salient point on how 2 gays/lesbians having sex in their personal room cause havoc for you.

Donjazzy12 you are giving us examples on how it affects gays and lesbians itself.Each man to himself, it doesn't affect you so mind your business and stop poking into the lives of gays. Please tell us how it affects you personally and stop beating about the bush.

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She'll make more money from the sales of the movie abroad than in Nigeria.

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porka: It causes social tensions and strives.

The economy cannot function in these.

Riots can breakout while people get killed.

98% Nigerians say they can't accept such lifestyle.

You are well aware that anti homosexuals routinely beat-up homosexuals in the US every now and then.

The individuals involved, both the mob and the victims, will be economically non-productive at that time and beyond.

You are still giving problems caused by anti-homosexuals.

Give me a problem caused by two men/women bleeping themselves in a room.

sharon747: Same sex marriage, is a sin before GOD and Man.It is the same sin God used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
If same sex marriage is signed and approved, how are we going to multiply in this world?

Yes as a Christian I agree with you that it is a sin. But you do not enforce your religion on any man as we do not want the muslims to enforce their dresscode on us also. Why not enforce the ban of premarital sex or immoral dressing.

Multiplication of the world is the least of our worries, there are more heterosexuals than homosexuals.

ravgach: @ wman: Also tell me how the activity a drug addict who snuffs inside his private room will affect the economy of a nation. Tell me, how can the man who produces substandard drinks inside his room and sells it in his private residence will affect the economy of a nation? Tell me how the activities of a prostitute who practices her trade inside her house and different men come to her affect the nation? Homosexuality is far, far worse (I do not have an appropriate qualification) than all these and more! Please stop being childish here!

Common man. Drug addiction have led to the death of many. It has wasted so many useful souls who could have been of help to their country. Think about Macaulay Culkin, Majek Fashek, Lindsay Lohan e.t.c The cocaine and marijuana plants of South America release so many waste products that are harmful to man. Most drug lords are also involved in illegal purchase of arms also.

Tell me having an homosexual relationship would affect your productivity and intelligence. Think about people like Ellen Degeneres, Elton John, Frank Ocean, Wentworth Miller (Micheal Scofield of Prison Break) e.t.c

Hope you know the number of child prostitutes in the world or the number of human trafficking caused by prostitution or the prostitution related crimes perpetrated daily.

Still waiting for you to give me a reasonable side-effect of homosexualism.

Donjazzy12: I will answer you thus. The Gay lifestyle affects the economy negatively in the following ways:
1, They are not biologically productive(ie) decline in workforce.
2, Gays especially male homosexuals spreads diseases cause of their promiscuity and unhealthy sexual practices from research see. According to researchers there is 18 times more chances of gay men spreading HIV than heterosexual men. Did You get that into your thick skull! These figure are recent. And these researches include gay friendly countries like the US and UK.http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/20/hiv-continues-to-spread-among-gay-men-studies-show/
3, IT IS A SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN FACT THAT HIV WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED AMONG GAY MEN.

Decline in workforce

Don't even go there man. With the numerous birth control programs going on in the world. With the mass unemployment in the world, Don't talk about
decline in work force at all. The work force is more than adequate for the available jobs. Reverend Fathers and Nuns also cause decline in workforce. The Apostles in the bible who never married also cause a decline in workforce. This point is useless

Gays and HIV
As long as you don't sleep with them, the chances of you getting HIV from them is slim. I'm not gay so I need not worry bout getting HIV from gays. You are not gay also so have no fear. They should worry about that. It's also because most of them don't like using condoms for backdoor entry.

Sagamite: Is everything about a nation the economy?

That was DonJazzy12's arguement so I was throwing it back at him.

Donjazzy12: Wrong again! Reverend Fathers and Nuns are helping the economy! They run charity organizations. They teach morals. They build schools and administer them! My dear friend , they are a plus to the economy. They also have a spiritual value! They run motherless babies homes to carter for those abandoned by their parents. Pray tell, why exactly should we support Homosexuals? Why?

Tell us how homosexuals affect the country negatively. Tell me how two men/women having sex with themselves in their private room would affect the country and the economy negatively.