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Porka and Donjazzy12 tell us why 2 lesbians/gays sleeping with each other in their private room should be sentenced to jail for 14 years.

porka: Again, statement like this explains why a pander will continue to have more value than some blacks in the opinion of their gods.

Homosexuality is your greatness? It is sickening.

Explain how homosexualism is the greatest corruption in the world.

Donjazzy12: PLEASE TELL US WHY DEFENDING AN ACT(HOMOSEXUALITY) WHICH YOU CLAIM IS WRONG IS YOU HEADACHE?

TELL US WHY YOU HAVE NEVER SPENT THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO DEFEND THE POOR MASSES IN NIGERIA BUT YOU WILL GO TO THIS LENGTH TO DEFEND GAY IDEOLOGY?

TELL US WHY DEFENDING A LIFESTYLE THAT DONATED HIV TO THE WORLD AND INCREASES THE RISK OF OTHER DISEASES IS YOUR HEADACHE?

Omo I just dey argue with dull people. No reasonable analogy.
Why do we argue?
Why do we argue about C Ronaldo and Messi?
Why do we make comparisons?

iyeyemi: Again, statements like this one explains why we will never be a great nation.

Thank you I wonder how someone in his right senses would say homosexualism is the worst form of corruption in the world. Shows how smart the person is.

porka: Oh, you are a christian?

James 2:19

How does someone's murder, kidnapping etc affect you personally if it's not you or your relation?

For Obatala's sake it would affect the relations of the person. The murder of the breadwinner of a family could impoverish the whole family e.t.c

I don't even have to start giving you more examples, you are intelligent enough to figure more out yourself.

Tell me how 2 gays/lesbians sleeping with themselves in their personal room is your headache.

Donjazzy12: How does one sleeping with your wife or girlfriend affect you personally? After all she and her lover are entitled to their freedom.
How does somebody beating you up affect the police personally? They are not the ones attacked.
How does somebody killing you right now affect any of us personally? We don't even know you

Donjazzy12: If you still do not understand how the gay lifestyle affects you as a person then, you shouldn't be here really. They spread diseases. Most of them still cross over and sleep with the opposite sex. Their life style donated a degenerative disease that is costing the world billions in Dollars and many lives and you still do not understand the effect their lifestyle poses? You really shouldn't be here. If we use your analogy then a crime is only a crime if it affects you personally. That also means the police should not arrest anybody who did not steal from them personally. They should not come to your aid if somebody defrauds you because it does not affect them personally. The list goes on and on. You are the one who needs education!

God I can't believe a reasonable human being is arguing like this. So you still don't understand?
The whole shit you typed above shows how intelligent you are.
So with all I typed you couldn't understand my point?

A thief, murderer, kidnapper affects someone in the society negatively
A thief stealing your property would ruin you and make you unhappy (It affects you negatively and it affects all parties involved negatively)
A murderer kills you ( Your whole family, friends, colleagues e.t.c are affected)

Even a 6 year old understands all these.
Did you go to school at all?
How old are you?

For the umpteenth time tell me how two gays/lesbians sleeping with themselves in their personal room affects you or any one else personally.

Don't even start about diseases that only affect the gays/lesbians personally.

Donjazzy12: So each man has a right to do what you know is wrong(Homosexuality and 1nscest). (In SAGAMITE's Voice) You are a confirmed person!

I'm a christian and I believe the following are wrong.

-Lying
-Premarital sex
-Masturbati.on
-Drinking to stupor e.t.c

So because I believe they are wrong should I say no man has a right to do them?
Should I say any man that does the above should be prosecuted.
No man! I can only tell them to stop it. I can't enforce it because It doesn't affect me personally it is their personal sin and has no effect in my personal life.


Now look at the following sins:
-Stealing
-Kidnapping
-Murder e.t.c

These would affect my personal life negatively and others so I believe those who engage in such should be prosecuted.

If you say homosexuals should be prosecuted on religious and moral grounds and you say those who lie, masturbat.e, should not then you are the greatest hypocrite in the world.

Sagamite: Amsorry.

How does crime justify the banning of something that should be a civil right?

Would you say Islam should be banned because many suicide bombers and terrorists are muslims?

Or you would say just address the suicide bombers and terrorists?

That is why I told him to come up with a better analogy. Read my post again I told him I do not have anything against prostitution. I only gave him some side effects.

He thinks I'm anti-prostitution which I'm not.

Donjazzy12 I never insulted you and yet you continue to do the same. Shows how matured you are. You couldn't even maintain a simple argument without using insults to buttress your point.

I asked you to give me an example of how 2 gays/lesbians sleeping with each other affects you personally, you keep on mentioning and emphasizing diseases that are passed from gay to gay and do not affect you if you do not sleep with them.

Is this question too difficult for you to comprehend and give a reasonable answer to?

Tell me how two lesbians/gays sleeping in a room affect you personally.

Do not give me some bullshit answer regarding diseases that affect the gays/lesbians themselves.

Show me you have something in your brain and can comprehend a simple question.

porka: How does prostitution affect you as a person?

I replied someone in one of my previous posts. Prostitution is not banned in so many countries in the world and I don't think it should be banned and yet there are so many side effects e.g Trafficking. So many girls involved in prostitution are as a result of human trafficking. Underaged girls also are involved in prostitution also. Many involved in the prostitution industry are also involved in drugs e.t.c

Still I'm not against it. So don't ask me how prostitution affects me as a person. Come up with a right analogy.

porka: How does i n c e s t affect you as a person?

Or are you accepting of i n c e s t as well?

I believe Incest is wrong and I believe homosexual-ism is wrong also. But I also believe each man has a right to do what he deems fit in his personal room

A 30 year old man sleeping with his 30 year old sister is not my business as long as it is consensual. Even though it is wrong to me, It is not my business. I dare not enforce my religious/moral belief on anyone.

A father sleeping with his young daughter should be arrested as the girl is too young to know wrong from right.

But a 30 year old woman and her 65 year old father sleeping together is repulsive to me but it is none of my business as they are both of legal age.

Donjazzy12 We all know that most gays prefer penetration without condoms. If they all used condoms all these won't happen.

So the only point you could bring out was STDs which is gay to gay.

You should have also said that government should imprison anyone who has sex without condoms

Still waiting for a salient point on how 2 gays/lesbians having sex in their personal room cause havoc for you.

Donjazzy12 you are giving us examples on how it affects gays and lesbians itself.Each man to himself, it doesn't affect you so mind your business and stop poking into the lives of gays. Please tell us how it affects you personally and stop beating about the bush.

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porka: It causes social tensions and strives.

The economy cannot function in these.

Riots can breakout while people get killed.

98% Nigerians say they can't accept such lifestyle.

You are well aware that anti homosexuals routinely beat-up homosexuals in the US every now and then.

The individuals involved, both the mob and the victims, will be economically non-productive at that time and beyond.

You are still giving problems caused by anti-homosexuals.

Give me a problem caused by two men/women bleeping themselves in a room.

sharon747: Same sex marriage, is a sin before GOD and Man.It is the same sin God used to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
If same sex marriage is signed and approved, how are we going to multiply in this world?

Yes as a Christian I agree with you that it is a sin. But you do not enforce your religion on any man as we do not want the muslims to enforce their dresscode on us also. Why not enforce the ban of premarital sex or immoral dressing.

Multiplication of the world is the least of our worries, there are more heterosexuals than homosexuals.

ravgach: @ wman: Also tell me how the activity a drug addict who snuffs inside his private room will affect the economy of a nation. Tell me, how can the man who produces substandard drinks inside his room and sells it in his private residence will affect the economy of a nation? Tell me how the activities of a prostitute who practices her trade inside her house and different men come to her affect the nation? Homosexuality is far, far worse (I do not have an appropriate qualification) than all these and more! Please stop being childish here!

Common man. Drug addiction have led to the death of many. It has wasted so many useful souls who could have been of help to their country. Think about Macaulay Culkin, Majek Fashek, Lindsay Lohan e.t.c The cocaine and marijuana plants of South America release so many waste products that are harmful to man. Most drug lords are also involved in illegal purchase of arms also.

Tell me having an homosexual relationship would affect your productivity and intelligence. Think about people like Ellen Degeneres, Elton John, Frank Ocean, Wentworth Miller (Micheal Scofield of Prison Break) e.t.c

Hope you know the number of child prostitutes in the world or the number of human trafficking caused by prostitution or the prostitution related crimes perpetrated daily.

Still waiting for you to give me a reasonable side-effect of homosexualism.

Donjazzy12: I will answer you thus. The Gay lifestyle affects the economy negatively in the following ways:
1, They are not biologically productive(ie) decline in workforce.
2, Gays especially male homosexuals spreads diseases cause of their promiscuity and unhealthy sexual practices from research see. According to researchers there is 18 times more chances of gay men spreading HIV than heterosexual men. Did You get that into your thick skull! These figure are recent. And these researches include gay friendly countries like the US and UK.http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/20/hiv-continues-to-spread-among-gay-men-studies-show/
3, IT IS A SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN FACT THAT HIV WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED AMONG GAY MEN.

Decline in workforce

Don't even go there man. With the numerous birth control programs going on in the world. With the mass unemployment in the world, Don't talk about
decline in work force at all. The work force is more than adequate for the available jobs. Reverend Fathers and Nuns also cause decline in workforce. The Apostles in the bible who never married also cause a decline in workforce. This point is useless

Gays and HIV
As long as you don't sleep with them, the chances of you getting HIV from them is slim. I'm not gay so I need not worry bout getting HIV from gays. You are not gay also so have no fear. They should worry about that. It's also because most of them don't like using condoms for backdoor entry.

Sagamite: Is everything about a nation the economy?

That was DonJazzy12's arguement so I was throwing it back at him.

Donjazzy12: Wrong again! Reverend Fathers and Nuns are helping the economy! They run charity organizations. They teach morals. They build schools and administer them! My dear friend , they are a plus to the economy. They also have a spiritual value! They run motherless babies homes to carter for those abandoned by their parents. Pray tell, why exactly should we support Homosexuals? Why?

Tell us how homosexuals affect the country negatively. Tell me how two men/women having sex with themselves in their private room would affect the country and the economy negatively.

Donjazzy12: If Homosexuals are not adding to the economy. Then we don't need them! Heterosexuals are the ones reproducing and sustaining the economy by providing the workforce. There is absolutely no biological purpose to homosexuality! They are just a nuisance to society. They claim they are attracted to same gender and should be allowed to marry . What of those who practice incest and who also claim they are attracted to themselves?

If Reverend Fathers and Nuns are not adding to the economy. Then we don't need them! Heterosexuals are the ones reproducing and sustaining the economy by providing the workforce. There is absolutely no biological purpose to Reverend Fathers and Nuns! They are just a nuisance to society.

koastar: Can two girls have sex? Before sex can occur there must be penetration. What will the girl use for penetration? I think what lesbians do is romance and not sex

Bros u wan dey form for us say u never watch p.orn b4.
Ever heard of finger-fvcking, v.ibrator, a d.il.do e.t.c

Bpriest: I saw people cheering when they heard about the bill . And you want to make me believe that there are homosexuals here ? Where are they? Why is that they don't hold meetings, rallies? Why is that they are not protesting in our streets? Why is that there's no gay pride parade? The answer is simple: they don't exist. Nigerians are not animals.

FYI Nigeria was represented at the last gay pride parade in England. Watch the video on Youtube.
What about the gay church closed down in Lagos.
I even know some gays and lesbians in my sec school and my Uni.
If you think there are no homosexuals in Nigeria, you're living in a fool's paradise.
So many just dey hide for closet.

Sagamite: Okay, tell me who nudism or prostitution affects negatively?

Is prostitution banned?
Does prostitution attract a jail term?

porka: Cocaine, heroine and other hard drug use is also the trend worldwide, anyone with one trillionth a brain will know that.

So also credit card fraud, terrorism, gun violence etc.

NDLEA will soon relax its rules, Nigeria Police will soon be disbanded while the Nigerian A r m e d Forces would be converted to farmers to the dismay of our forefathers.

You are comparing sleep with death.

You never understood my post. I said so long as it affects no one else negatively.
Homosexualism affects no other than the 2 parties involved.
Hard drug use has caused so much addictions and has led to many other vices.
Terrorism etc affects others negatively and worlwide the war against them is increasing and not waning.

Comprehend my post 1st and come up with a better arguement.
I dey wait u.

Any one thinking homosexualism won't be eventually legalised in Nigeria is just fooling his/her self. These are the last days.

Years ago it was a taboo to have sex before marriage according to both tradition and religion. Now it is the norm.

Lets follow censorship of movies and T.V series.

In the early 20th century who would have thought that nudity would be shown on live T.V and still be rated 16. Now we have:
Spartacus
True Blood
Game of Thrones
Board Walk Empire
Rome e.t.c

Main stream movies rated PG 14 now show the naked boo.bs and asses of girls without their pussy showing e.g
Titanic
American Pie
Bad Teacher
Snow White and the huntsman e.t.c (I rarely watch movies so I can't name more but I'm sure u can fill in more yourself)
These movies are shown on channels and other local T.V stations by 10 p.m upwards. Even 8 year olds watch them. The unacceptable has thus become the norm.

Lets move to Nollywood. Showing side boo.bs was wrong b4 but now its okay. Showing the actor your frontal view while backing the camera was wrong b4 but now its cool.

So many music videos that would be banned in the 90's are now allowed.

Even in the manner of dressing. B4 the term mini-skirt was used but its no longer used as such skirts & dresses are even worn to religious institutions.

Songs with profane lyrics are on the rise. The censorship board relax their rules every year.

Our forefathers wouldn't have believed it if they were told that pre marital sex would be the norm.

In the 1960s if they had told our parents that T.V series with nude scenes would be the norm, they would argue with u that its impossible.

Anyone with half a brain would study the trend worldwide.

As long as there are immoral people to support an act & as long as that act doesn' t affect other people's lifes, it would come to stay.

01mcfadden: taaaar!
Abeg comot for your hiding,i dnt need lobotomy 2 knw that you are a gay!
Shameless fo.ol.
Why are you pretending?

I'm not gay and I never insulted anyone. You need not insult me.

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arctoni: Dude u ar definatly a gay.....u can't b dr nor here.....u ar 1 of d most confusd individuals here

I'm not confused and I'm not gay. I detest the act but I'm an advocate of human rights.

ojimbo: and who told you that it will not have effect on our society??, homosexual involves a demonic spirit, how will you feel if you are been druged and molested by your fellow man?

Rape is different from consentual & mutual sex.

Funny how so many would love watching lesbians perform in por.n films & enjoy threes.omes with 2 girls involved yet they say they are anti-gay.
So many have watched Pirates & have other por.n movies with girl to girl acts on their phones & computers yet dem dey claim anti-gay.

Yes same sex marriage should be prohibited but anyone should feel free to sleep with whom he likes in his private room.

I'm not gay not do I support it but I feel what two consenting adults do with their d.ick & asse.s in their private room is no ones business but theirs.

But I'm against accepting it publicly & joining them under the holy matrimony called marriage.

The 15 years jail term is wrong. 2 guys/girls wishes to do it & its no ones business.

I think everyone should have a right to a private life regardless of what others think so far his/her private life affects no other person negatively & he/she is willing to bear the consequence of such.

#nohomo.