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Dtruthspeaker:
I repeat, should Hp control and Tesla control the Laptop and car you use and drive?

I know you got my point!

i don’t get it, are you inferring that god lacks the capability to control what he created just like the HP and TESLA manufacturers?

Dtruthspeaker:
Can Hp and should Hp control the laptop you are using or should Tesla control the car you are driving?

C'mon man stop being unreasonable.

Ok god cannot control what he produced and how it’s been used?

Is that your point?

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MaxInDHouse:
Now you're talking!

Just as the car has a manufacturer my faith has a giver (My God) but just as your car keys as been tested many times what my God promised has never been tested before yet it's working presently!

Your request is stupid because just like no right thinking person can demand from the manufacturer to use the key for what it wasn't meant for, you can't ask my God to come performing anything before you.

What you supposed to ask me is how FAITH in my God is WORKING out what the collective effort of all your professors in the faculty of ATHEISM can never achieve!

[/s]Dead religious brain, thicker than a brick. Educated illiterate that cannot think and making rubbish analogies.

You should start worshipping the key manufacturer then. Mumu

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

Whatever makes you TRUST (BELIEVE) the car keys is a proof that you have FAITH in something it's just that you're blind to this fact!

Your car cannot be equivalent to your god theory, it’s stupid, Barbaric and total lack of mental reasoning capability to create that analogy. Religious people don’t have sense until they get insulted.

Your car Keys before you use it has been proven to work with evidence. The manufacturers can be located and they have proven beyond any reasonable doubt this key works.

A car key is product of years of research in many fields of science and using several scientific theories like electromagnetic spectrum, chip technology to confirm it efficacy etc. after that they did studies to prove that it works and it also passed several quality control test before getting to the market for use.


You need to now see how stupid, foolish and ridiculous your line of reasoning is.

What study or works, quality control, tests and verification has any of you ignorant religious people done for your god aside the nonsense in the Bible? What test can your nonsense beliefs pass in real time? None

You logic is flawed And stupid and I can’t believe that an adult can not comprehend the rigorous processes and research a typical car key goes through during manufacturing and quality control before getting into the market that warrants such high level of trust. You see that you don’t have sense?

This is what religion does to you, it makes you reason upside down, like you have
Malfunctioning brains. You can’t make any good logical comparison, it makes you sound stupid to intelligent people whenever you try to defend it, just like you did now.

capnies:
A FOOL SAYS IN HIS HE ART THERE IS NO GOD
I want you to explain this Mr nogod
A woman dreamt that one of her child among the four sleeping in their room was taken away by unknown person, she woke up form her sleep, ran to the children's room and saw all the four children sleeping, she was relieved and happy, morning came all the children woke up; but before 12noon that day the one she dreamt that was taken away died. PLEASE OGA NOGOD WHICH SCIENCE CAN EXPLAIN THAT-- coincidental?

A fool says in his heart that there’s no Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Fixed

MaxInDHouse:
You talk about CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS and i want to prove that it's STUPID when you're approaching your Car without the correct keys in your hand.

Now the highlighted below is what you typed with your own hands:



Do you need proof to have faith (trust) in a key before you approach your own car?

Answer the question if truly you want to prove what you typed in the highlighted or get lost!

Your reasoning is wack.

How can you be having such line of reasoning and expect that people respect your opinion.

How has car keys gotten into this conversation?
If you want to reason then to that and stop creating laughable analogies. I don’t have patient with people who are bereaved of critical reasoning.

How hard is it for you just say, this is evidence for god, now please test it. I don’t want to come down to your level of reasoning

xproducer:
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You may come to understand, I pray so... by GOD's mercies (ponder the account of the thief on the cross whom the Lord JESUS saved as said thief was dying - Luke 23:42-43)... if you don't, some other(s) may understand and be edified.

lol

Dtruthspeaker:
You get it, you just want me to keep speaking so that I could say something wrong, which you would use against me.

So one last try, the phone or laptop in your hand which you use to make these posts, is it reasonably conceivable to think to blame HP or iPhone when you use it to commit yahoo-yahoo?

So it makes god made mistakes right?
Things he created could go wrong and he can’t control such?

Is that what you mean?

Charisma01:
Sorry sir, go and collect your own vaccine

Already done that and all my families did and you also got a vaccine as well after your birth.

We need a good number of people to get this particular one for herd immunity

jmoore:
The fear of the unknown.


I once asked a Nigerian that claims to be an atheist to come and investigate a haunted house. He gave the flimsy excuse that he's busy with other things and can't waste his time on imaginary haunted house. All I saw was a 'freethinker' with no actions. You think that ghosts don't exist but you refused to put it to test.

I know, he's scared of ghosts but can't admit it.

There are many haunted houses all over the world. I know one in Nigeria, Aba to be precise. Anyone who has spent 3 decades in Aba and knows Ukwu mango very well should be familiar with a 3 story building opposite that junction. The house has been put up for sale and no one has bought it.

This is a perfect house to know that ghosts exist. No need for grammar to debunk ghosts. Come and stay in the house for just one month, you will live to tell the story and your fellow atheists will think you have finally gone mad.

You have a chance to make yourself a millionaire in dollars and yet you waste that opportunity on nairaland?

Why don’t you participate in one of the paranormal challenges and win the bounty if you have evidence for the ghost?

I can share links for a number of them that has never been won, for the past 100years.

You will also win the Guinness record if you win.

How do we educate these people that atheists don’t believe in the existence of ghosts?

Only Christians and Muslims and all other believers believe in that nonsense

Charisma01:
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Lets believe it because it came from a verified twitter account instead of scientific journals.

Mumu

MaxInDHouse:
Do you TRUST (BELIEVE) your Car keys when approaching your Car?

stop asking silly questions, I will stop responding to you if you ask me childish questions instead of just providing evidence

BassReeves:
If truly and really, according to you the bible is full of lies then you shouldn't have difficulties listing 5 lies that the bible is full of

I am sure that you do have faith in the law of gravity but thats besides the point.

The point is, in the spiritual realm, faith is the currency that human beings use in exchanges of things of value in God’s Kingdom such as salvation, healing, deliverance, peace, prosperity etc

As a matter of fact, without faith, it is impossible to believe the existence of God.

1. Noah flood didn’t happen, no evidence.

2. Tower of Babel is laughable and no evidence.

3. No evidence JESUS Walked on water.

4. First human wasn’t created 6000years Ago.

5. Virgins cannot give birth without fertilization


No evidence and all these are fabricated lies

MaxInDHouse:
NO, You're wrong in this Sir!

That's why i keep telling you to ask for the proof of the FAITH in misinformed Churchgoers!

The bible is full of lies and stuffs that inconsistent with reality.

There’s no proof for faith, you don’t need proof to have faith in anything

MaxInDHouse:
A true Christian will not quote the Bible to threaten you but make you see the need to reason along with our God! Isaiah 1:18

This is the definition of FAITH:

Assured expectation of what is hoped for, the evident DEMONSTRATION of REALITIES that are not seen! Hebrews 11:1

Ask them to explain how his FAITH in their God has been put to DEMONSTRATION after all nobody can see his God or FAITH! James 2:18-26

The Bible is a story book

xproducer:
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I cannot convince anyone... GOD alone saves, and I am humbly, yet assertively declaring His truth!

With regard to "most Christians" and "con monsters" let one rather more substantively "...work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" - Philippians 2:12

After all is said, contended over, and done - The LORD reigns!

"For it is written: “As I live, says the Lord, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God.” - Romans 14:11

"Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:9-11

You still Dont get it that the Bible and most things in it doesnt make sense to me. Why are you quoting it?

xproducer:
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Well, you appear to have convinced yourself that you have it all figured out...

"while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” - Hebrews 3:15

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness
"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools,..." - Romans 1:18-22

"And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?” Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains." - John 9:39-41

Its laughable to think that you can convince an atheist with a Bible passage.

Dude, we read the Bible more than Christians and that’s why we are atheists. Most Christians don’t read the Bible, they get interpretations from their con monsters.

heniford2:
France and Uk and US are all brothers there enemy is China the will sink China soon

I don’t think they can. China has got some brutal allies in Russia and North Korea

orunto27:
DREAMS ARE EVIDENCES THAT THERE IS GOD.

maxindhouse, you see why I think a religious person is incapable of critical reasoning!

You see the unreasonable reply? No sound mind will link dreams to a god

hupernikao:
Bro, this is one of the lies you have made yourself to believe. It's like trying to rub your personal ego.

All you put up there, when subject to proper reasoning you will be the one to display no soundness at the end.

Don't just argue for argument sake. Your OP has nothing but just lazy gist that comes from too much of drinking. When I see sound argument, I know well.

You haven't presented one.

I won’t be arguing if there’s actually any evidence for god.

You should just provide one instead of prolonging the argument

sonmvayina:
No...there is just 1. It's just the name that is different.
The igbos call it chukwu and the yorubas calls it Eledumare...same God, different nomenclature..

Is he also the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Bacteriologist:
I mostly agree with that however, the thing is, many theists are confident that they accept the god claim based purely on evidence or reason. I mean, I once did think it was reasonable to believe in the Christian god a few years ago too.

Conversations like these helped me see what I was missing, so it doesn't hurt to try and engage others in such conversations as well.

So.... when I post comments like those I try to engage them to try and see if I could expose some of the gaps.

He doesn’t seem to identify that as a gap because he’s mentally incapable of comprehending sound logic.

Whatever he sees, he ascribes it to his god. It took the curiosity in you to be able to emancipate yourself from the mental slavery. Someone with cognitive dissonance will never be emancipated, so it’s ok to just let the person know he’s stupid.

sonmvayina:
It is everywhere...all around us. We are in God, God I in us...it is the energy within us...the universe is the manifestation...

God is consciousness...personified.

Which of the Gods are you talking about?
We have a lot of them

HellVictorinho:
Well, the coronavirus wasn't mentioned in the Bible




But I need you to help me with 600naira


Please,can you do that?

no sir I can’t

Dtruthspeaker:
It's as simple as this. Mr. Toyota created the Camry but when the Camry is put in Lagos Floods by the driver of it and it becomes damaged can it be reasonably said that Mr. Toyoda created the damage?

No!

But can Mr. Toyoda fix it?

Yes, He Can!

It's as simple as that.

my IQ is low, so I don’t understand your complex logic.

Are you saying that god didn’t create viruses?

Dtruthspeaker speaker please help me understand this, teach me the scriptures about it. Did your god create coronavirus?

hupernikao:
Okay o, Doctor Workch,

Ekúu trouble. Am not surprise, everyone seems to have a cure to something these days and internet is their theatre and laboratory.

Weldone, Epèlé Sir.

E Seun sir, Eku ife wa.

Dtruthspeaker:
You Forfeit and therefore Lost! (As you already know and once confessed before that evolution was a Lie in one of your threads, so no problems here.

But I wondered why you brought it up!.)

So to your question "how coronavirus came to be, that’s why I asked that question."

My Answer, the same way and place all other diseases cancer, leukaemia, typhoid fever, rickets, beri-beri, Aids came.

But Like Mr. Toyoda, it does not matter what makes the LandCruiser, sick, whether tierods, check engine or transmission, it can always be fixed.

So god created coronavirus, I don’t understand.
Did your god create coronavirus and HIV?

Bacteriologist:
Your argument is circular.

You are saying a god exists because we can see what the god (whom you are still trying to prove exists) created.

You have concluded that a god exists and you're then using what the god created as evidence for that god existing in the first place.

That is a flawed circular form of reasoning and is not how you would go about proving anything.

You have only restated what you believe, and not what would count as evidence.

You think these people understand anything About logic and reasoning?
Anybody who accept the concept of a god does it by faith and not by reason. Such person will have poor critical thinking capability and will commit fallacies at will when confronted with sound reasoning.

MaxInDHouse:
I am Maximus one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, would you like me to help you with the underlined?

Nope I want Dtruthspeaker to explain it. He seem very knowledgeable and versatile.

Dtruthspeaker, I really need some education on if HIV and coronavirus were created by your god. I’m deeply ignorant about this topic. Please help me