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LordReed:
LoLz. I didn't say that irrelevance is the definition of igtheism. I said it was making me lean towards igtheism.

Well good for you. The god question is irrelevant to me.

My friend Reed, you are currently struggling to figure whom you really are currently.
I am sure that you will get it all worked out.

A001:
Seun, please Nairaland is long overdue for a block button. Some members of this forum have a mental disorder and constitute a nuisance on the forum.

lol, why are you allowing that guy to wear you out?

You are mentally strong enough to just ignore him

LordReed:
LoLz. Exactly. The god question is quite irrelevant once you see it has no effect in your life. I did tell you I was beginning to lean igtheist and this is is one of the reasons.

second, igtheism doesn't infer that the question of God is meaningless because it doesn't have any relevance in our lives, igtheism sees the question of God as irrelevant because it feels that the definition of God is not precise. It's ambigious.
It has nothing to do with whether or not it's relevant to one's life.

I am giving you a very definite definition for God now: An entity that caused the singularity before the big bang to happen.

LordReed:
LoLz. Exactly. The god question is quite irrelevant once you see it has no effect in your life. I did tell you I was beginning to lean igtheist and this is is one of the reasons.

I don't think this is correct, whether it not it relevant to your life doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

What happens in Antarctica may not be relevant to your life, it doesn't mean that Antarctica is not a thing.

Whether aliens exist or not may not be relevant to your life, it doesn't mean that we should not answer the questions of aliens.

LordReed:
Here is a related question: do you live like a god is relevant to your existence or do you live like a god is not relevant to your existence?

It's obviously not relevant to me.
Why should this matter?
People who think god exist will say otherwise. They live their lives based on the supposed relevance for their various gods.

jaephoenix:
Where's Workch and A001 when you need 'em?

lol, I cannot engage this guy o.

Someone that will repeatedly be typing irrelevant things

A001:
Agnosticism. Let the theist present his evidence for God's existence and watch agnosticism die a natural death.

I think theism is out of the question. We know that their gods are fake. So many evidence against their gods.

Theists are never gonna bring any evidence for supernatural interventions. The issue is with deism, there no way to know for sure if their God exist or not hence Agnosticism remains the best option

1. Theism
Theism argues that their specific gods exist because they have personal conviction and relationships with them, irrespective of the myriad of evidence against them. It doesn't matter how much evidence against it that you have, it's personal to them, so they will reject whichever evidence you try to present against that God.

2. Deism
Deism argue that a god/creator must exist because the universe didn't just pop out of no where, something must have created it. However this something that we call god does not intervene in the proceedings of the universe through revelations and miracles, because the evidence available suggest that the creator doesn't.

3. Atheism
Atheism argue generally that there are no evidence for the existence of any god, hence they reject all. They have evidence against theistic gods and reject them in that regard but they do not have evidence against a deistic god but they still reject it.

4. Pure Agnosticism
Agnosticism does not make conclusions unless evidence is available for or against. Agnosticism will reject the existence of many theistic god on the basis of availability of evidence against their existence but they neither reject or accept the existence of a deistic god because of unavailability of evidence for or against it. Some Agnostics are of the opinion that the existence of a deistic god is unknowable while some may think that we have insufficient knowledge to know, we may find out in future.



Which of the 4 arguments is the most logical to make sure one avoids the fallacies statetd below.

tinsel:
Go and sit down with these lies

Why is it painting. Accept when something is right.

There's nothing wrong in that l.

Abeg, nlfpmod, do the needful

okeysoninv:
take a look at the inside , did you saw their facilities ?

Yes, they all can conduct kidney dialysis, cancer screening, chemotherapy and radiotherapy and some of them conduct heart surgeries. I have evidence.

Obi keep investing there instead of corrupt ministry of health

IgOga:
How Obi way dey hide governments funds and development from Anambra people gets credit for private hospital

Only ipob and enemies of Nigeria will call a grandfather youth at 62 and handover presidency to a man who lacks good governance skills nor any tangible thing to show for being governor for 8 years and serving GEJ in PDP for 4 years

See evidence from Iyi3 Twitter page

tinsel:
Go and sit down with these lies

Lol, it's not lie. Go to iyi-enu Twitter page, they still have pictures of Obi commissioning projects on the hospital

okeysoninv:
did you saw the architectural building of Kano hospital. this is what we want not an old ancient architectural building in this century

Well, this was done 10 years ago. No be by architect, them get facilities?

These hospital can perform dialysis and some of them heart surgeries

IgOga:
How Obi way dey hide governments funds and development from Anambra people gets credit for private hospital

Only ipob and enemies of Nigeria will call a grandfather youth at 62 and handover presidency to a man who lacks good governance skills nor any tangible thing to show for being governor for 8 years and serving GEJ in PDP for 4 years

he handed them over to the mission hospital then started funding them directly.

tinsel:
OP, please stop these lies. The listed hospitals have no state government hands. They are owned by Catholic Church.
If you are talking about the general hospital along Awka, no problem. He really touched that one. But the listed hospitals by you have no state penny in them.

I am not lying, he funded this hospitals after handing them over thr the church

3. Iyi-enu Mission hospital, Ogidi, Onitsha

St. Charles borremeo more

2. St. Charles borremeo specialist onitsha

When his investments in health was been scuttled by corrupt ministry workers, Peter obi decided to invest in catholic hospitals directly instead of wasting money that will be looted by ministry of health workers.

This thread gives list of 3 of out of the many hospitals he invented in that are still serving onitsha people today. Remember tjsu he said this same thing at Chattam's house, he said he will stop funding federal ministry of health if he's not seeing results and that he will divert the funds to private hospitals instead on a condition that every Nigeria will be treated there.

He did in Anambra state and it worked



1. Holy Rosary hospital.

LordReed:
LoLz. The 10mins travel time and the 1 year travel time are being recorded from the same frame of reference.

Nope, do you understand theory of relativity?

Yes or no, I can explain if you don't

plaindealer:
Medical equipment in Peter Obi's Anambra village..

where are you?

Aren't you seeing hospitals again?

Bring your wife free to Anambra for surgeries

plaindealer:
Hospital in Anambra village..

this is where we give birth to kids in Anambra state.

Levels, aslo accessible to the poor

Plaindelaer, you can't runaway from your thread 😂

plaindealer:
The sad and pathetic life of Anambra village sit at home slave losers...

Just explain this absurdity to me abeg.


Smh..

We have world class health facilities to treat heartbreaks in Anambra state. It's even subsidized for tribal bigots like you

plaindealer:
The sad and pathetic life of Anambra village sit at home slave losers...

Just explain this absurdity to me abeg.


Smh..

come and perform your heart surgery at okwuosa heart foundation. You are having heart attack

plaindealer:
Medical equipment in Kano...

Okwuosa foundation Anambra state, a cardio hospital

LordReed:
Still haven't said WHY humans cannot survive a wormhole trip.

See my previous post:

I will tell you why humans cannot survive warmholes, but that won't really matter if warmholes technically doesnt make you travel faster than light.
It might within your own reference frame but not within all frame of references. This is because time is relative

LordReed:
LoLz. Let's illustrate. For example a wormhole connects a region of space near earth's orbit and a region of space 1 lightyear away. The light from our sun will take one year to traverse the distance normally. A person in a space ship uses that wormhole and arrives at the end point after 10mins. Which is faster, the person in the space ship or the light from the sun?

according to theory of relativity, the time it will take light to travel the same distance that you covered using the warmhole is relative. Please, read about theory of relativity carefully.

From your own reference frame, it will take light about 8 minutes to travel from the sun to the surface of the earth, but that's your own reference and this time is relative depending on the reference frame you are talking about. From a photon's reference frame, it took 0second to travel from the sun to the surface of the earth.


This is according to special theory of relativity. I think you should check it up.

LordReed:
Asked for WHY. You justed repeated your statement without saying WHY!

Wtf is going on here. LoLz. How many times do I have to repeat: The wormhole doesn't require you to accelerate to lightspeed!

The reason why it is called faster than light travel is not because you are actually moving FTL but because you are traveling the same distance in less time than light would. Did you not read in the screenshot that if light was to travel in the wormhole with you it will still be faster than you? For Andromeda's sake. If you don't understand why not say you don't understand instead of mindlessly repeating the same thing I have clarified over and over again.

this is true at your own reference frame.
From a photons reference frame, you didn't travel faster than light.

I hope you understand

LordReed:
Good grief! Are you even paying attention ffs!

good, it technically doesn't break the universal speed limit then.

You didn't travel faster than light

LordReed:
Why would we not be able to survive a trip through a wormhole?

What part of this is sci fi? I am pointing out a possibility that is based on established science. It conforms to Einstein's relativity equations and even Stephen Hawking theorised that wormholes may potentially exist yet you are calling it sci fi. It was not dreamed up by sci fi authors if that is what you mean. LoLz.

No matter how you want to do it, you can never be faster than light.
At the speed of light, a photon is at the position of wherever you started entering the warmhole, that same photon is also at where that warmhole takes you to simultaneously.

This is true because of That's theory of special relativity and superpositions in quantum mechanics. Let's stop science fiction and be real