₦airaland Forum

This people are not serious walie

Odibembem:
Seeking political leadership is a selfish endeavor because you want to be the one so 100% of them are selfish but in seeking office, once in a while d interest of the people u seek to lead must coincide with yours, hence you must speak up. Obi has shown that he would run away from doing d tough things, he would run away from a fight, the national assembly, diplomatic community and the military would cough and Obi would take flight, they would ask him to foist a very negative policy on Nigerians and he won't have the balls to fight or say no, Such a man should and will never be president of Nigeria

you are not far from the truth.l also see him in that manner and running this country is not an easy task

To be candid with you op.do you think most of these politicians parading themselves as the Messiah's of the society really care about the masses plights?I guess your answer is as mine.they are just after the position for their own gains.

Some of the recent policies chunking out by the c.b.n might have been tied towards the forthcoming election which the c.b.n governor was also interested before.could one say he's still yet to move on with the rejection of Nigerians to allow him to contest for the presidential position in the last primary election held some months back.

The north doesn't forgets

rolams:
Do you mean Kwakwaso is more popular than Atiku?

he has more organic followers.I was there when he form kwankwasiyya movement.Although it's not strong as before.it took the intervention of buhari and El rufai before ganduje emerge a winner in the last election in kano.kwankwaso came second in the primary election held in 2014 between kwankwaso,atiku and buhari with all the dollars shared by atiku.it was people like tinubu and some strong alies of the defunct c.p.c that stood for buhari to emerge as the party flag bearer then.

rolams:
I don't understand you.

I wanted to say manyof the names you mentioned above apart from kwankwaso don't have much political influence in the core north beyond their own states.no southern politicians that have political associates like jagaban in the north.They are ready to go any length for him.

rolams:
What are you saying? Tinubu has majority of supporters in the North? Ahead of Atiku, Kwakwaso, Shetima, Tambuwa, El-rufai the sons of the soil far behind Tinubu a Southerner?

Haaa! This is too much ooo. Don't say it again pls.

let me tell you I have been in the core north over 30 years,kano precisely.apart from kwankwaso among those aforementioned names above.others can beat down the influence of jagaban over there

To be frank,after bihari tinubu has the majority of the supporters in the north behind.they know the role he played in bringing buhari against atiku and kwankwaso then in 2014.The north are not betrayals.

Truely this Peter obi perform woefully as a governor then in Anambra.l think what has changed to answer the question the op asked is that he's projected now as tribal heroe and Messiah at the national politics.

candidtalk:
Indeed. As I see it, the answer is fairly obvious. If Igbo man is going to say "I don't want a Yoruba Presisent" then that is fine.

If Yorubas will insist "emilokan" then that is their prerogative also.

Ijaw man too can say "we eed Nigeria and must lead her". All good.

Yet, what do we profit from these rigidly egotistical stance only benefitting and empowering those with a feudal, rigid, oppressive and 'dominance' mentality ?

Nigeris is now sophisticated enough, and blessed with many educated minds, for it to be obvious to all of us that what is shown below is the only way forward to a brighter future regardless of what we think of each other and what we individually feel is the best way forward.

I think, at this stage, the commonsense way forward is we agree to disagree and then all push together, in a united and focused way no single region or presidency can resist , to gain regional governance that will allow us all build independently successful futures from our regional base.

How long do we wish to carry on redundant arguments about who is superior, just or right? When will we all learn to drop our egos and unitedly back what will secure the future of our generations unborn?

The more we delay the more those who control the centre can supervise our security and socio-economic doom retaining the 'one Nigeria' only benefiting them.

that's my submission also.we just need the political will from these our leaders to really do the needful,not just a cosmetic approach towards achieving what you stated above.thanks for your input

candidtalk:
Bro, the South is so divided and worthless that regional governance is the only thing that can save us and secure/preserve the interest of our generations unborn.

Everytime the South has an option to stand together for the greater good, some individual or group will always arise the North can then use to frustrate the emergence of solutions that are best for every Nigerian adult and child in every State and region of Nigeria.

Buhari was able to use the greed and inordinate ambition of Southern politicians to wraken the APC all in the effort to ensure the North, whether through APC or PDP, retains control of the centre.

Yet Southern politicians could never see the bigger picture and sacrifice for it as the Northerners always show they can do over their agenda of constant dominance of everything and everyone under 'one Nigeria'.


Southerners are egotistical, petty disunited and more hateful than Northerners. If we had any sense, and given the bitter lesson Buhari and his crew has taught us, then what is shown below should be our uncompromising demand.

It is the only consideration that will ensure, come rain or shine, and in hatred or love of each other, everyone is still free to build successful and progressive lives from their States and region.

I am not going to ask the Igbo to love the Yoruba or vice versa but why can we not drop ego and pettiness to gain political advantages that means we can all go and take charge of our future and direction at regional.lebel?

you have said it all.the best way to really go if we should tell our selves the truth in this country is the"regionalism"just as you really analyze it above.this will give room for healthy competition among the regions in respect to development and governance.leaders from this respective regions will be held responsible for any incompetence or Mal administration if defaulted without pointing accusations at tribalism as we mostly experience in our current political dispensation.

[quote author=candidtalk post=117318347]You're going to have to explain why Tinubu got three times more votes than Amaechi then at the APC primaries then.

The problem with the average Nigerian is that you are opinionated, intolerant, discriminatory, lawless and never democratically or humbly respectful of the majority thinking/will of others.

No nation can be great with citizens who think as you do.

The road to any candidate becoming President of Nigeria begins with acceptance at their respective Party levels. APC leaders chose Tinubu at Party level as is their exclusive right to do.

Imagine APC Party leaders, after they chose their Presidential candidate, now wish to come into your homes and insist who you must vote for as you, when it was their turn, insist they should have elected Amaechi?

Why can undemocratic reprobates like you not accept the decision of APC leaders that Tinubu is their choice?

They are stakeholders before people like you in the hierarchical order it takes to produce the Nigerian President so why do you not want to accept their will so they can then accept yours when it is your turn?


You don't respect the democratic choice of others yet want your own choice upheld. You are the problem of Nigeria bro. Along with egotistical and childish leaders like Amaechi etal.
[/quoteTo be frank.you just analyze the Apc shenanigans that happens during their last primary.you really understand the political game of the north and the south.I based in the northern part of the country.The politics over there is mostly revolves around"we feelings" region first.while,the southern politicians are egoistical, betrayals, unprincipled and greedy,which affect their politics at the national level

So everyone must que behind Peter obi?what a foolish thought

Better.it ain't necessary

Foreseer:
Since you are not gullible, go to the nearest market to where you are staying and campaign for Tinubu, if you get mind. Let's see if you will come out alive.

Shame on you and your likes

you must be babaric and you are devoid of reasoning.l can't stoop so low to reply you again.A pathological lie and irredeemable soul

mightyhaze:
says an Agbadorian Fake Bishop

lf you don't have any meaningful thing to say don't ever quote me.you think is everybody that is gullible

Every thing about this man and his supporters is full of lies,deceit, propaganda and drama.l pray we don't enter another one chance

ImperialYoruba:
@OP,
Thank youfor highlighting the points clearly. I hope this thread circulates across Yorubaland and as well every region to awaken Nigerians to the reality and the steps ahead.

You said above that going by the volume of hatred from a weakened Ibo to Yoruba in their daily utterances, it is not hard to imagine what they would do to us when power is in their hands. I continue to campaign daily that Obi does not wish Yoruba well and particularly he will change the fortune of Lagos if he ever becomes a President of this country. Under Azikiwe, commanding the powers of President, he usurped authorities in Yorubaland, then clipped our wings by throwing Awo in jail. Yoruba wrote all kind of articles and analysis, but what effect does newspaper article have against bullets and bayonets of the federal might? None.

Obi will rig an Ibo Governor into Lagos and possibly another Yoruba state to demonstrate Ibo is supreme and then transfer an everlasting political supremacy to be controlled by Ibo into the forseeable future of Lagos. Any Yoruba traditional power or politician that so much as say Ah will find himself in Abuja on trounced up charges of planning Nigerian destabilization. Ibo has watched Fulani treat us any kind of way and our weakness at retaliation or opposition. They will do us same way, our response is predictive, articles, blogs, shouts, street protest...that's it, nothing meaningful. They also know we do not die with our heroes. If someone stood up to be our voice, they will pick him up, and thats it our noise will fade away. That's the end of that.

So our emotions because Tinubu did not support us against Fulani, or support youths during Endsars, or his VP is Muslim are all child's play when compared to the imminent atrocities and suffering of our people and Yorubaland under an Ibo president. Our people need to wake up and be told what could happen to them under Obi, rathern than their misplaced priority and diversion of a Muslim-Muslim ticket in Tinubu. Tinubu is just one person behaving badly in his fatherland, Yoruba, but with Obi there will be millions of ibos behaving badly in our fatherland Yoruba.

You referenced marginalization of Yoruba under GEJ, who were the people in Jonathan's ears during his administration? It was three people - Madueke, Iweala and Obi, all Ibos. Obasanjo was responsible for the inclusion of Ibos in government - Iweala, Soludo, Ihekirija, and many Ibos. Ibos were responsible for Yoruba marginalization under Jonathan. Remember that till today they are still bitter that we, not North, kicked GEJ out, and they have succeeded in equating Jonathan government as a Christian throne and Jonathan himself as a Knight fighting Christian cause. So they are now preaching to Yoruba using christianity as a divide to separate us. As one we are indivisible and powerful force, but as christian and muslim they can buy alliance of Yoruba christians to defeat Tinubu, who they label Yoruba muslim and anti-Jonathan (the Christian Knight). Do you see the connection? Many Yoruba have now been converted to see Tinubu as anti-christian. Obi is promoted as pro-christian and successor to the seat vacated by Jonathan, the Christian Knight. Anyone Yoruba who is opposed to Obi is therefore condemned as anti-christian and Yoruba christians are indulged to distance from them. We must teach our own brothers that when Nzeogu entered Ademulegun' s room in Kaduna, January 66, and gunned down husband and pregnant wife he did not see them as fellow christians, he regarded them as Yoruba. When Ibo knocked on Akintola's door and killed him they saw Yoruba, not christian. When Azikiwe theew Awolowo in prison, he was dealing with a Yoruba, his christiany did not matter. When Ibos told Kumuyi they will kill him if he stepped foot in SE, they knew him to be christian and they don't care. Ibo is cunning, when Obi urged Jonathan to marginalize Yoruba the Yoruba Elders upfront negotiating with Jonathan were christians, prominent in that force were Pa Adebanjo, Pa Fasoranti, Pa Falae. All christians. Why didn't Obi whisper in Jonathan's ears these are Yoruba Christians, let's give what they want?

Yoruba must desist from supporting Obi. Line behind Tinubu, his atrocities against Yoruba is tiny and he is just one person. Obi is backed by millions of atrocities already occupying Yorubaland just waiting to activate.

Yoruba wake up! You are not christian or muslim, you are Yoruba and a force to be reckoned with.

to be frank.you just pin point some of the major reasons one should have a re-think towards this politicians.especially,those that are just pretending as a saint or Messiah as proclaim by some people

candidtalk:
To be honest, and without making this a 'sales pitch', this is further powerful proof of why Nigerians should just demand the Presidency be handed to Tinubu.

Aside being brilliant himself, the man always finds and deploy brilliant leaders everywhere who are visionary and 'automate' processes and solutions innovatively and responsively.

It was after the whole herdsmen and Northern farmers Beef and agricultural produce brigandage against Southern Nigeria that Lagos swung into action with her five year road map last year in a show the State has, by far the most driven and most innovatively responsive government in Nigeria.

I am sure many are not even aware of this brilliant road map which is an ode to responsive, innovative and solution-driven leadership. The sort Tinubu would spread across the entire Nigeria if he had the power of President.

In contrast we must demand the effort of Anambra and Bayelsas that Obi and GEJ, two men Nigerians keep touting as potentially good Presidents, are bona-fide political Godfathers of.

It is simple developments like this that are quantifiable markers that confirm Tinubu accommodates and deliver success per anything he is administratively or politically involved with.

When I raised the issue of identifying and mentoring good leaders, as a particular strength of Tinubu, and how Atiku and Obi lacked any record of it whatsoever, Obi fans went on the defensive to say Obi does not need to mentor any leader.

Development like this are proof of the saying that the greatest leaders develop other leaders. Nigerians choose wisely and pragmatically.

If we did not prioritise politics of ethnicity, hatred, religious bigotry and sectional discrimination in Nigerian then so much will become visible to the average Nigerians that would enable clarity of vision and judgement per selecting the best qualified individual to be President.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/04/23/lagos-state-launches-5-year-agricultural-development-roadmap/amp/

to be honest,all what you said is just the truth.

To be candid,one of the indices of selecting a good leader or a staff is to check his/her past records achievement(s) in any of the enderveour he/she ventured into in the past.

Ain't you guys tired of these politicians with alot of lies without any concrete implementation when voted in?

walefresh3:
No body argue that with you..... My message to all nigerians are very clear...

Obi is not a political saint , but a fraudster
He is a know failure.. and bigited Personified

to be candid all these politicians are the same.imagine the same obi that some people are projecting as a saint or messiah.another one chance loading

Saint obi... politicians with their normal tactics

The so called Messiah indeed.just vote for your choice

Ibkhaleel:
Since Obi 'went into Labour' six weeks ago, there is relative peace in South East. The members of IPOB, ESN, Unknown Gunmen including their sponsors, supporters & closet sympathizers, now under the unified
banner of "Obedients", have all taken their patented lies, anger, self-inflicted pain, contrived sorrows, insults & violence to Twitter, WhatsApp & other social media platforms & blogs to bully opponents of their new Obidient' deja vu bubble that will eventually burst in February. Well, I just hope they will remain inside Twitter with their madness & let South East enjoy more this present peace for a long time.
No epidemic dey good but madmen
epidemic, especially confused madmen
epidemic, na the worst!

to be candid nothing spectacular about this Peter obi.He is just an average politians whose supporters hype on social media just because of tribe or religion affiliation.

Difrent:
But it seems you all want us to believe its Only among igbos that we can find competence even when we have over 200 other tribes.

Its only the man who has not been to another farm that will think his fathers farm is the biggest. There are competent people every where and among all tribes

To you its only among igbos that we can find competence even when such competence has not been put to use in any igbo state.

this is the most salient point I have been thinking about this recent outburst of them.was it not this same man that govern anambra some years back when I was a resident there.I thought they are the most competent,saint,achievers in Nigeria out of all tribes

Biodun556:
I pity the people of South East with their method of reasoning, the way they are packaging Peter Obi is the same they armed ipob that turned to terrorist

to be frank.I also try to see what has changed about this same Peter obi, nothing l can really figure out.Just an average politician whose supporters are beclouded with tribe and religion.the most danger of it is their intolerance,insultive manner,threatening and dooms prophesy as belief by these sects of supporters

lookingfly:
tinubu only have influence in the SW........is that enough to win the presidential elections? The fact that he bought the delegates doesn't mean he can buy Nigeria. We the obidients are waiting at the polls, let's see how far he's stollen wealth can reach all the youths in lNigeria!

see,many factors determine a winner in general election.tribe, religion,money,and also he's from the ruling party.i think all these favors him more.Although, I am not really interested if he win or not,but I just respect the spirit of not giving up in him

One of the most controversial primary election from the ruling party in recent time in Nigeria.jagaban

Nice one.politics is for the matured minded.not bitterness and witch-hunting.jagaban was really a fighter