₦airaland Forum

freshest4live:
All of these things can be taken care of without secession.

Let it be taken care of let's see if succession will have a voice.

MrMaestro:
Not opinion, not fantasy, not hateful tribalistic comments. Give me hard, and factual proof with sources , as to how exactly any country split from Nigeria will be better than Nigeria. Its a very simple question. I want answers.

Let's recap,

1. Nigeria has Africa's Largest GDP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

2. Nigeria has the largest amount of internet users: http://answersafrica.com/africa-internet-usage-statistics.html

3. Nigeria has the second largest film industry in the world: http://fortune.com/2015/06/24/nollywood-movie-industry/

4. Nigeria has the largest music industry in africa (I don't even need to cite this. http://www.africanbusinesscentral.com/2016/10/24/the-boom-in-africas-music-industry-continues/)




5. Nigerians own 2 of the top 3 spot of richest men in Africa (everyone else in top 5 is white): https://www.forbes.com/africa-billionaires/list/#tab:overall

So again, i'm open to discussion. Give me hard, and factual proof with sources, how a spilt country would be better than Nigeria. Its a very simple question. Answer the question below Don't derail, or change the subject, just answer the question.

We will not have Herdsmen killing people in cold blood without justice. I.e killing will reduce, justice will be for all.
We will not have policy makers considering their region
There will be equity
No one will drag us back in terms of development
There will be holistic and free minded approach to the need of the people. I.e seaports and airport
Employment won't be by region but by your ability to deliver

Aonkuuse:
Your ambition is dead on arrival. For you to be president it is better Buhari's corps should continue. I always know that attacking Buhari was for your own selfish ambition. But the brain washed were always calling you a hero

Weak fayose is better than strong Buhari.

Hmmmm

deomelo:
Except that it didn't fly and even sef, any reason why they didn't fly it?

There's no need for that. If you want them to propel it, you have to pay to cover the cost of production.

deomelo:
What is this dodo saying? And what do I even care who hate or don't hate me because some clown tried to fool us with some village toy they call rocket... Abeg shut your ipobitch mouth..

I wish you know chemical reaction and understood what that guy explained there. If ignited, it must propel I assure you.

Delta will be in the next meeting in PH. I am not so sure of Edo but I am sure Edo and SW will join Southern Elders Forum. SEF

MadCow1:
Million Naira question: What amount of rainfall caused this flooding.


Is any agency of government carrying out any study on this recurrent phenomenon?

Yes, I learnt the agency is in UK for 2months plus.

Abeg, is this one also worthy of my time? Come to think of it, have Biafrans taken stand on whether AREWA will stand or not? This fu3ker is so irritating. If you finish ranting, you go and keep quiet. My advice to all Northerners is to stop breast feeding babies with cow milk. Maybe is the reason why you guys reason like this.

I have read most comments and I can say that they are geared towards scaring people from the support of self actualisation. I want to state here that on the negotiation table, not only separation will be discussed. Economic ties, ownership and relationship will be discussed. Foreigner owe land and properties in Nigeria. CofO wasn't issued between countries but individual not of a country but of occupant of a property.

ItsMeAboki:
You are apparently irredeemably mentally lazy; why go to Ghana when you even have ready made examples here in Nigeria; haven't you heard of abandoned properties; how many of your blodas got back their houses from their cousins in the SS after the war?

As I have tried to explain to you over and over again; a government can always choose to make laws to suit itself; ranging from selectively putting heavy taxes on foreign (Igbo) owned properties to outright confiscation out of national interest - and nothing will happen, some may even try going to court; ECOWAS, UN etc and only end up wasting several years of their time in vain - that is the kind of reality awaits some of the evictees should it ever happen - shey you now understand?

I don't think I should continue with you pot calling kettle black. To your claim, all I have to say is 'Till it happen'.

ItsMeAboki:
Educated illiterate, did they leave with their immovable properties?
Learn to use your brain before you type; though I wouldn't be surprised if not much is left after the ill effects of the powder you ppl peddle to develop other ppl's land.
Like I said, there are many options opened to a government concerning properties owned by aliens.

Nice, I have gotten what I want from you. They left with their properties and the immovable properties are still in Nigeria. My dear, ask around, you will be surprise to note that Houses own by Ghanaians in Nigeria still belong to them. I can show you many. Ghanians as human went back to Ghana and their properties in Nigeria still remain.

It is not uncommon for you to hear down south that this house is own by a Ghanian nor is it hard to see Ghanaians down south.

ItsMeAboki:
Nonsense, they should concentrate on organising a referendum for themselves since they are the ones truly fighting to exit the country.
As for citizens right to property and residency in other countries; well they are being very naive and quite stupid; perhaps they have forgotten some recent examples such as Ghana must go in the 80s and vice versa, expulsion of Indians by Uganda under Idi Amin, Nigerians being expelled by other African countries e.g Congo, Sierra Leone etc.
As for properties, again there several options that could be opened to a govt against properties owned by foreign nationals; ranging from punitive taxation to outright nationalisation.
They think they can sit in the diaspora and dictate to a government - lol even if there are laws protecting them, lets see who can enforce them against a determined govt.

From the examples you sited, did Ghanaians left with their belongings? Like moveable properties? If yes, that means they have right over their properties. Lazy bone, better go and work and stop looking for property to covert .

I paid rent in US to Indian investor, not American, so stop fooling yourself.

NLPsychologist:
Nice spirituality, am sure its penetrating the high heavens in the Speed Of Llight!

But what about the Igbo elders and governor opting for a one Nigeria, I heard they went to El Rufai...

That's why we are calling for referendum. It is like a vote. If Exit wins the vote we will go. Meanwhile, they can even naturalise in Nigeria or have dual citizenship if law permit.

Olasco93:
Nigeria iNigerians AN.
They should just have a rethink and channel their strength into their businesses. They don't even look like people that need Independence.
A people that can do the Undo for money and so on. I weep for Emekas and Okafors.
Freedom no be beans.
People wey dem go betray diaself once dem see small change for hand...
Because Baba no dey around, Kanu dey form Jagaban.
Rubbish and futile struggle.

Now that we love ourselves like that, how is it your business? Hope you can join the call for referendum so that we will go our way and continue to betray ourselves if that's what you think of us.

Let us go so that we will stop disturbing you Nigerians and manage ourselves the way we can. If it is by betrayal, we will enjoy it alone if it in love and patrotism, we will see and enjoy it.

I am from SOUTH don't call me by SOUTH EAST. I can work with every Southerners. I am that Yoruba Igbo origin. SS, SW and SE can be one but addition of N will spoil the soup.

LionDeLeo:
Coming from the chairman of Eastern Governors Forum.

I can't fit laff.

To think these are the people calling others parasites is quite amusing.

Una never see anything.

Abeg let's restructure jor, we are more interested in knowing who the actual parasites are, nonsense.

One thief with focus on monthly alert. Is this the type of person you want to drive an economy? This person is a daft and a major reason why Nigeria is like this. Nigerian potentials are wasting all he wants is handout from Abuja



Is it this thief that enjoy his alert monthly that you want him to be ready for a change? My dear, we know those in authority to be greed and lazy bones. Is either restructuring or disintegration.


He that can't use his brain to create wealth is not fit as a governor.

LionDeLeo:
Coming from the chairman of Eastern Governors Forum.

I can't fit laff.

To think these are the people calling others parasites is quite amusing.

Una never see anything.

Abeg let's restructure jor, we are more interested in knowing who the actual parasites are, nonsense.

You see one thief that enjoy his alert monthly and you want him to be ready for a change? My dear, we know those in authority to be greed and lazy bones. Is either restructuring or disintegration.


He that can't use his brain to create wealth is not fit as a governor.

Said by BUHARI? Have I ever taken him serious? Hissss, abeg , any evidence to his claim? Since non, let me also say that sahara desert will become Atlantic ocean in 30 years and in 15 years sun will seize to shine. This Buhari self

I was in Northern Nigeria when I first called them 'PARASITES' it wasn't out of hate but out of reality. It is not uncommon for Northerners to give out unrealistic or nonexisting statistical report but when called to defend it, they end up labelling you as a bigot. I am 100% in support of restructure or disintegration of Nigeria. It has never worked and will never work.

Well, happenings in Nigeria defies logical reasoning. What's presidential Jet doing in UK gulping tax payers money in the name of waiting for the president? Can't the Jet be flown into UK when the president needs it?

Who is the current minister of power? Has power improved? What's wrong with Nnaji as minister of power?

Who is the coordinating minister of the economy? Where is NOI? The difference between developed world and Nigeria is that developed world use best brain but in Nigeria, we use our relation, associate, friends etc.

Even if they call for restructuring, don't be surprise at the suggestions some people who are enjoying our wealth will make.


As to voting, without been told by NK, I have decided not to vote again. My reasons are

I struggle to get voter's card, struggle to vote assuming it count, for many years I have voted, the elected end up in affluence while the statue quo remains the same.


To convince me to vote, I need to see improved basic amenities.

The truth is that Lai is a liar

mpowa:
As in, those people where trying to help them achieve it faster but they started crying upadan!

Illiteracy is the worst form of blindness

KANU should apply wisdom

For all those talking trash about Biafra, let it be known that the people who divided Nigeria are the Hausas mostly the Muslims. Will it be right if Biafra should have its own court and Biafra law? Let us mind our actions. You don't measure less for others and expect better measure in return. If we want a country called Nigeria, we should work for it and take away every forms of religion from it. Nigeria law will stand and other things will find away to fit in. This is road used by motorist, for the fact that you are doing one religious function or the other, you block the road. The fact that you are fasting, I shouldn't eat, what's my business with your fast?

lilytender:
Nigeria will not be restructured nor any senseless referendum conducted. When their brother Goatluck Jonaddaft was there looting and sharing our resources among his gang of 40 thieves, these useless IPOB yoots and elders did not shout restructuring nor referendum. 2nd Niger Bridge, he gave you on a board. East-West road construction, the money for this is in Mama Piss accounts. What about airports in the South-east and South-South, the money for that has been shared by Stella Oduah and the gang of 40 thieves. Now that we have sent Goatluck back to his village, you are crying. Continue crying, cry for life, it is free.

What can be sensible to the senseless?

Read this and tell me that this man is not a fool

Movic1:
Igbo leaders should speak up and caution their youth. When Nmandi Kanu was shouting war,they remain silent without cautioning him. Now that it has backfire, they are all over the place preaching humanity and unity.

Igbos should know that they aren't the only one that can abuse or lay curse on people, their utterance might lead to what they didn't expect.



The short-sighted and brain damage ipod yoot should know how they talk,if not the kind thing wey go hit them,dm no go expect am.
Awon ode.

Are you sick in the brain to utter such trash? Who is preaching humanity? To heel with Hausas.

davear:
1) Yes there are only 5 southeastern states, but we should not continue using that as an excuse. Sound stupid
[s]2) If the FG does not want to help us, then we should help ourselves, we should not be spoon fed [/s] Why then do we need to send IGR to FG?
[s]3) If Aba is more industrilised than Kano then Aba should generate more IGR than Kano, dont confuse IGR with federal allocation. [/s] Increase Abia state IGR, Provide basic amenities for the industries to thrive before asking for IGR
[s]Imo state federal allocation is higher than that of Ogun state yet Ogun state's IGR is x12 that of Imo state. [/s] How many FG project is allocated to IMO state?

I am glad you said 'If FG don't want to help us' meaning you know that they are not helping us. Why then will you suggest we drain our pocket to generate IGR?

davear:
Its no news that the Southeastern states has a very low Internally Generated Revenue (IGR) when compared to other regions and the reasons are not far fetched. FG might have its share of blames but we need to look inside, identify our problems and solve them ourselves. The main culprits are:
1) Our leaders
2) Supporters of these leaders (both offline and online Media Crew)
3) Silence of our intellectuals and technocrats
Lets discuss these problems at the state level.

Enugu ( 2016 IGR- 14billion)
Before Ugwuanyi took over from Sullivan Chime, the IGR of Enugu state between 2013-2014 was 19billion but by 2016-2017 it has dropped to 14billion, while at thesame period the IGR of Ogun state rose from 18billion in 2013-2014 to 72billion by 2016-2017. There is no other person to blame than Ugwuanyi who has failed to attract or develop investment opportunities in Enugu state. Right now Enugu cannot compete with kaduna and kano states in terms of IGR. Funny enough when you highlight these problems online, his media crew, kinsmen and 042 faithfuls will attack you, you can confirm that in Enugu threads/forums.

Anambra ( 2016 IGR- 14billion)
When the "light of the nation" posts threads of Obiano signing MOU and commisioning factories, one would think that this state generates an IGR comparable to Lagos but alas it can only generate 14billion which is a slight improvement from 11billion it generated in 2013-2014. The state is blessed with intellects, politicians, billionaires and business men yet it is not industrialized. Anambrarians are quick to argue that the state offers a low-tax-scheme to indegious companies which I cannot verify for now, regardless it does not mean that Kwara state (with all due respect) should generate more we do. The state has the political strenght and population for masive industrialization yet no massive project/scheme is ongoing.

Abia (2016 IGR- 12billion)
A trip to abia state, Aba in particular will convince you of the enermous potentials abia state has. The human labour, skills and raw talents are there but unfortunately they are not developed to generate enough income for the state and country. The infrastructural and state government support are not there; the streets and market places are rowdy, roads are bad, no pedestrian sidewalks. Even if the FG has overlooked us, the state government can harness energy from within to spark development and industrilize itself. The past two Orji's have failed in this area, hopefully ikpeazu sees this and work aggresively.

Imo (2016 IGR- 5billion)
The situation in Imo state is a classical example of human capital flight "brain drain". Imo state has always lead the way in number of Jamb applicants, one of the top 3 Nigerian states in literacy level, highest number of civil servants as of 2015, top 3 in number of university graduates, but with all these educational and human capital prowess the states IGR is only comparable to taraba state- a northeastern region ravaged by boko haram. Its either the state leaders are siphoning money (through tax leakages) or there are no industial growth in the state. I once saw a thread were an Imolite was boasting that the state has the highest number of hotels in Nigeria (bar Lagos). Maybe if we focus on industries, then the human capital flight which has seen smart imolites leave the state will stop. Unfortunately the problem might continue if Rochas manages to install his candidate in the next gubernatorial elections.

Ebonyi ( 2016 IGR- 2billion)
Now thats a whimsical revenue, and to imagine that this state generated 11billion in 2014 makes it look more suspicious. Umahi obviously has some questions to answer with the drastic fall in revenue of his state, while other states were experiencing growths. It even seems like this governor had hired his own media crew to propagate false non-existing half baked projects. They started with an " airconditioned" stadium/event centre, followed by concrete roads (by taking pictures of one road from different angles) and non-existing water projects. Last week a journalist was beaten up for trying to reveal the true state of ebonyi in his facebook profile. To imagine that this state has massive potentials in agricultre and solid mineral developments, one can only wonder what is realy wrong with the present leaders and what the past leaders were doing. This state also has the least literacy rate in southeast yet we cant see any blue print in its educational sector, nor have we heard of any educational related activity from this our salt state

Although southeasterners are quick to argue that there are no "optimally functional ports" in the eastern region but neither are there ports in the northwestern are northcentral regions which has overtaken us in terms of IGR. There are thousand and one setups and projects that does reqiure port proximities (or import-export base commodity) and will still generate massive revenue for the region and more importantly improve our Human Development Index (another topic that will be discussed)
Lets look inside and hold our leaders responsible and make them accountable to us.

OAM4J
Mynd44

I was thinking a sensible writer would have compared IGR of other state with SE, appointments of other states with SE, number of other states in other regions with SE , government presence in other states with SE. Aba is more industrialised than Kano but what's the monthly allocation for Abia state?

Kyase:
lol the guy is sure fraudster but make we dey watch. So how camp

Nnamdi Kanu the fraudster, we love him like that. Name calling won't change our love for him and the truth which he stands for. So, grow up and get over it