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No one has still answered my question..

Please let's not deviate from the intention of the thread..

Feel free to quote me whenever an answer springs up.. but before then let's keep the conversation sane and reasonable..

unclejb2:
what you just wrote, is it a reason why Biafra should not come? Tell Biafrans what they stand to benefit from staying in Nigeria and not the useless crap you just typed

Please if you have something reasonable to say don't hesitate to do so, else please stand by the side and read..

A girl I once met and we both had a hangout, Nothing serious tho..

Today this early morning we had this conversation and I'm wondering.. Am I too harsh or too Strict? I'll other conversation I had with other girls that kinda said similar things..

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Sorry guys I had to take the image down, seems I acted childish or immature to have created this thread (as some people would have it) in the first place.. Sorry if I got you offended..

theDEVILisHERE:
1st of all
A slave camp is not and cannot be a nation

The shiithole cage for Niggas aka Nigeria expired 31st Dec 2013 according to the documents the vagabond and bastard Mr Frederick 4kn Lugard signed as a slave contract for his lords the diabolical British royal family

That slave contract was illegal in the 1st place
Now the illegal slave contract has expired which makes the British wild game reserve 4 nigga animals aka Nigeria operating on double illegality!!

As we all know the final end of every illegal structure is destruction
Talk more of one operating on double illegality

The animal inhabitants of the cage better act fast and free themselves or else they would be destroyed along with their cage

They don't have much time left

To be sincere i cant make out anything from this..

I'll prefer you make a clearer point devoid of name callings and insults.. Dont be offended tho, maybe i'm not too schooled to understand your choice of words..

SpeedOfLight:
Where's the agreement, who and who made the agreement? Please don't be offended!

I can't be offended, cause questions like this made me create this thread..

There was an agreement or a written document signed by Nigerians during Independence Celebration.. I may be wrong

theDEVILisHERE:
Federalism is ment for slaves
Emancipation is ment for human beings

The choice is between being a slave/animal and being a human being

You either choose to continue being a hopeless monkey nigga living within an area
Or
A free human being living in his fathers land


The choice is urs

But then the Nation doesn't make it a choice..

A previous comment from someone said there's no provision for a Sovereign Nation nor State from Nigeria, so i don't see the Choice here.

Nigeria had an agreement in the past, don't you think we should abide to the agreement and try to make things work out irrespective of our ethnic or Political affiliations? Cause I mean like i said earlier if we channeled the Energy into clamoring for true federalism, we might achieve that first..

Then the Biafrans can decide if they still want to move on or not..

p3Ac3:
Op i tell you, you are the next Nnamdi Kanu for your people
What a matured thread
First of its kind in this forum,
But do you know what?
This will never never hit the frontpage ,
Rather they will frontpage the picture of a snake killed at their backyard.

Thanks for the Compliment but then I'm the next ME for my people

Hitting front page is not my aim but rather to seek an answer to my quest..

If hitting front page would derail the thread then it should be left out of front page as long as the conversation continues this way..

Thanks again

LoveDecay:
The Biafran Issue can be analysed on three levels , nationally, regionally and internationally.

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Nationally:

¹ Nigeria has a constitution and it recommends or suggests how certain issue should be handled. The constitution is the bedrock and framework of how this sovereign nation should be run. The Nigerian constitution has no provision for cessation, restructuring or "breaking away".
You can see the constitutional recommendations on "new states and boundaries" here ^{http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#Powers_of_Federal_Republic_of_Nigeria}

We don't have any provisions for new countries or nations. So, this is the first issue Biafra must contend with.


² Secondly, on the case of morals. Biafra first uprise was tainted with the death of millions of Nigerians, whom were forced to become Biafrans - when no vote/referendum was carried out. Did Ojukwu consult with the masses on the issue of cessation ? Did he receive wide support from the masses ? Millions died yet Ojukwu lived a full life with one of the most beautiful women in this nation - Ojukwu escaped the repercussion of his cessation campaign unscathed, yet others died.

On the case of morals, Biafra as an idea is very much significant in history, however this is for the lives lost and not for that which was never achieved.

Anyone who seeks to re-awaken such a cause which may lead to loss of lives, should expect widespread rebuke, logjam, gridlock and constriction.

For the Red Text - Don't you think that's unfair to human, I mean 2 or more People owned an institution and they had an agreement not to breakup and later one or some of them later found out that the agreement is not favouring them, do you now say because there was an initial agreement then there shouldn't be an amendment to such agreement or there shouldn't be a breakup if the person or people are not comfortable with the agreement anymore..

I'm just trying to bring this down to lay man terms..

For your 2nd Reason, there was a call for referendum but that call was not granted and so Biafrans were forced to do what every Man would do.. *Fight for Freedom*

So are you trying to say Nigerians don't want to loose more lives that's why they're against the call by the same People that lost their lives in the initial fight?

Doghari:
If your father is not oil well owner whom you are jumping from thread to protect his interest in nigeria with your anti-biafra remarks, then you are the noisiest buffoon milky way.
You remind of Olukayode Omidina (mrkayusfit/searchiinglove), a hungry yoruba muslim dolt that was jumping from thread to thread to fight for oil well owners-Abokii against Biafra with an empty stomach.

I believe there must have been a much better way to respond to him rather than the way you just did..

Please let's keep this thread insult free, you can't have Two ✌ wrongs

247Potential:
Well, listening to Nnamdi Kanu speak so volatile was not really encouraging, you know. He was quite 'all out' in bashing everything bashable. The politicians whose feathers were ruffled had to act quickly to paint him evil and play the tribalism card where necessary to discredit him and it worked for them. But honestly, in a country with third world problems, his way is the only way to get things done. So that it is working for some Igbos and that it is being rejected by some, in my opinion, is down to his approach.

I really don't believe anything short of that would have gotten government attention or gotten the message across.

I appreciate your approach towards the Topic, if I had someone from the other end explain in the same light, I think I'll be satisfied, but for now I'm not..

247Potential:
Like someone would say "Aim for the sky to reach the mountain top." Hopefully, the agitations for Biafra will get to a stage that the FG will offer True Federalism as an alternative. I'm very positive Igbos will see the advantage of such move and grab it. The problems associated with starting a new state is indeed rigorous and no doubt, a 50-50 scenario.

So let me say such call would lead to something positive at the end for the Igbos.. Then why are people against it.. ?

Does it have to do with the way it's been carried out? Or is there a Step by step Legal process that these people are not following or abiding to?

LoveDecay:
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LoveDecay:
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Please if you've got any contributions to make you're free, else you could stand by and read rather than derail the thread.. please I beg you

Emancipation:
The north dominates the executive, legislative and Judiciary and even military. They have made it clear that they are not interested in True Federalism. Please be realistic in your assertions.

Please I'm being realistic and I dont want to be on anyones side..

And then what makes you think people that rejected through federalism would grant your independence?

ElCount:
Why did you waste ur time on that lad? He never has anything sensible to say

He's a Nigerian and has the right to Speech..

Afterall I created the thread and should be able to accommodate all irrespective of Tribe, Political class, ethnic group or religious affiliations

Emancipation:
If you ignore nairaland for one day and read the Biafran charter by the Biafran government in exile, Resource control and true federalism is fully ingrained in the proposed constitution. please do your research. Each Biafran province will run their own affairs in line with the federal constitution.

I'll try to do that tho it seems Nairaland is becoming an Addiction tho..

247Potential:
That's the snag. Perhaps the advantage of a 'more common' interest and a smaller region would pilot the ship to its harbour. If it hasn't worked since then till now, there is no doubt that we need a ... (don't want to use the word CHANGE)

A common interest? I think it's 50-50, and the only reason people would begin to consider having a sovereign state is if the government refuses to practice through federalism..

Don't you think if we channeled all the efforts used for protesting or calling for a sovereign state is used for the call of through federalism we won't achieve that?

ekesimo:
patiently waiting for the rationales on why Biafra shouldnt be heard or let free.

Trust me *they* will not even regard the thread, but if it is any thread written against the biafrans, u will see *sensible* comments piling up and down.

If they can't come to defend why they're against the call then there's no reason to withhold these people for no JUST reason..

I'm still waiting for that person and would be glad if anyone is able to do that devoid of insults

Emancipation:
That will be hypocrisy indeed but what sane and rational individual will support IPOB one day and celebrate Nigerian independence on another day? Do you think supporting IPOB is something people just do for fun. It is a tough decision and anybody who has come to that point of joining the Resistance has made up their mind about Nigeria.

Well no one would want to go against an already established state over an Imaginary one.. I understand now..

Thanks for contributing..

247Potential:
Yes. I for one have a little reservation about this Biafra agitation. for the sole reason that There's still a lot more to be done after its actualization which requires the purast of intentions and all hands on deck. I have doubts if the Igbos can collectively render this service at their own personal sacrifice. But then, the dare may drive it all the way home. It's an experiment. The outcome is still negligible.

However, the advantage which may take care of this problem is that the government will be closer to home, and not be run from Abuja. The smaller the problem, the easier it would be to handle. That's why True Federalism remains a much better alternative or an option to reduce agitations for Biafra. Give States power to run themselves and collect a realistic % from them monthly or quarterly and the level of corruption will drop drastically.

Yeah the call for true federalism I support, also I share with your fears of having such a huge experiment - let's take a cue from Nigeria, we've had Independence (literally) for over 50yrs and still yet we've not learnt to manage our Resources, how sure are we that such wouldn't be the case if Biafra comes to be?

Emancipation:
For your information:

Nnamdi Kanu has been there since 2009. He was a very Harsh critic of GEJ. It is on record. But GEJ was smart enough to leave him alone. But Buhari on the other hand justified everything Nnamdi Kanu has been saying by making the 97% vs 5% comment after the election. Nnamdi kanu smartly capitalized on it as evidence of whats to come for Igbos. Frankly speaking, he was right.

Lets assume the president's statement was an oversight, but then Independence day is close by and the same People who claimed to be offended by such Statement would come out to support and pledge..

Is that not hypocrisy?

sarrki:
Ipob is Babylon nothing good will ever come out of that


Criminal, terrorist group

What's your reason for calling them a Terrorist group, or Criminals..

Please pen down your reasons to justify your claims, I'm eager to know why..

BiafraudExposed:
That means u don't follow my profile... I give countless reasons...
Igbo's love money. check my last post video to see Oyigbo market. Still busy...

I have a video my mom was charged 25k for tinted permit by a fellow Igbo man...

2. Autocratic rule check my prt2
3. Christianity destruction check my prt1
4. Stealing contributions. If Biafra comes it will even be the worse because the cownu himself has nothing to show for the contributions... Till now.
5. Eco centric... Kanu said on my part 2 so clear that he doesn't deal with people who are poor..
Guess his reason that they can't pay his hotel bills and flight so what is the use...

If I lie in any of my claim let me die. And if u don't believe go to YouTube search my name watch my part 1 and 2 and u will find those audios...

Biafra is rudderless I must speak the truth

Now this is the reason why I said I've not seen anyone give a Rational reason,

*That Igbos love money is not a reason why they shouldn't be granted independence, I mean who doesn't love money, except our Transportation Minister , I love money, I mean Agape love for money..

*Autocratic Rule - Countries that had such rulling system did not fail, and moreover the democracy we portray today doesn't favour the Poor masses, if such rule will the I don't have a problem with that..

*Christianity Destruction - The Igbos (Baifrans) were not originally Christians and if they decide to fall back to their origin, I don't see a wrong in that

*Whats your prove that it'll be worse, and again you did the same thing I mentioned earlier "Insult Insult and Insult"

*He has a right to his lifestyle, If he's lifestyle is not to deal with poor people that's his choice, that might even make him make all Biafrans rich so he could have a dealing with them.. #MyOpiniom tho

Please let's have a conversation devoid of Insults and Name Twisting.. Let's be reasonable..

247Potential:
It would appear it was destined to be and will be.

I figure the bulk of Igbos don't believe the past war is the reason they should turn back to Biafra. However, there are two key motions in play, which in my opinion, makes Biafra only a matter of time.

The first of it is that there is a sense of marginalization amongst Igbos. When they look at themselves and how far they have gone from zero to hero in their individual and communual endeavours, very few will be pleased with how the government, with all the resources at their disposal is handling things. Uneasy lies the head that wears the cap, they say, but many Igbos have put the cap on their heads, dealt with it all through the finish line and handed the mantle to the next in line without breaking pace. Igbos are not impressed with the poor job Nigeria is doing. It's not hard to see why.

The second motion is 'The Dare'. If there is anything Igbos get morivated by; it's a dare. A dare is like a challenge that must be risen up to if one is worth his onions. The pride of the average igbo man is 'Ekwueme'. In the present Nigeria, they are beinh dared to follow through with Biafra. They are beinh dared by the authority and citizens alike. While they may have patience with the first motion, this is likely to speeden up the actualization of Biafra, even if it involves becoming primal. I believed the government should take a cue from the past Lagos elections where the igbos along with their South South brothers almost swung the politics of Lagos towards PDP simply because a lagoon threat by a sitting Oba went round. That was the dare. The close battle at the polls was the result.

In as much as I agree with someone of your valid point, but then "A Supposed Biafran" was at the helm of affairs for 6 years and still he couldn't change the course as to what the bolded text specified, and don't you think it'll still be the same story when this said independence is granted?

A trained Nigerian serving in the US..

These people milk our Resources, Work Force and Labour..

I don't blame them, I blame the Nigerian Leaders that has allowed this to thrive..

I've been through this Section Politics over and over again, and all through I've not seen any one give a rational reason why they don't want the Nation Biafra to come..

Now don't get me wrong I'm not trying to campaign for that, I'm only concerned not even a single person has come out to give a Reasonable Reason why these people shouldn't be granted independence..

I for one has neither supported not criticised the call for the said Nation, that's because most people criticising the call don't actually give a tangible reason for that, they just go on insulting the people without necessarily giving a candid reason why Biafra should not be..

Now I'm a neutral person, I've heard lots of them speak to me and I could to some extent understand the call, tho I'm not so much in support of the way they're going about it.. But then I'll want someone from the other end to please give me a tangible / sensible reason why they should not be allowed / granted independence.

I know we've got learned Nigerian and 'Biafrans' in this forum and pleased let's be matured about this.. This is not an avenue for social, Ethnic and political war..

Pardon me if you find any error in my English, I'll try to correct them when possible.. but then let's have a sane conversation

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Pque:
yeah, you may be right but do u realise that not everyone that goes to the hospital comes back alive, some health conditions are also beyond medical treatment. Do you realise that billionaires and millonaires also died of complicated health conditions beyond hospital treatment and the money could not even help. Do you realise how many people have died right in the hospital today and everyday. Doctors try their best but God is the healer and owner of the life. Do you know at times that help don't arrive on time but prayer may bring the necessary help and block unnecessary mistakes from occuring. Do you know that some millions of people have been healed miraculously when the medical report declared that there is no solution for their health condition. Miraculous Healing by a Miracle working God.

When you say Block Mistakes.. How?

Prayer Brig the necessary help.. How?

Miracle.. How?

Please answer using the scenario played above

debbie:
one day i saw a group of people gathered on a street and staring at a man who had seizures....all they could do was to say he is possessed by a demon,others were busy snapping him and i was moved to go closer..i saw so much pain and anguish on the mans face.Luckily i beckoned on a man that parked his car close....as God will have it,he had some medical experience-i didnt bother to ask him.
He came and called some guys to hold the man down,he calmly helped the man come back to his normal self and took him away....it was a sad experience.

My point is,we are so ignorant and naive...many things have been associated with demon,evil and all ....yet we dont seek medical help.

secondly,a woman had a very high sugar level and fell down...somewhere on lagos mainland.She was screaming for WATER,a woman said no they shouldn't give her water,maybe shes hungry...they brought lacasera(sorry to mention the brand name),gave here...but she was too weak to resist.After drinking it,she died there( who knows that when your sugar level is very high,that you dont drink any more sugar? ignorance).
Well instantly the crowed disappeared,leaving the dead woman...later the lagos emergency health care came by with their ambulance and took her body away.

See,we have alot of health awareness to make....many things can be avoided if we are informed.
Our health campaign is very very very very poor.....we keep on hearing unnecessary jingles and announcements on air and everywhere...yet we dont take health info serious.

God help Nigeria

You just spoke exactly my mind..

See a lot of people here already saying Lord heal her, look there won't be any healing if she's not attended to Medically..

All those your healing prayers would go no where if you can't help With finance to fund her medical treatment.. Let's be realistic and forget all these our spiritual affiliations to issues like this