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KoolK:
Lol.nice one..please answer o.

Ko o question. Of cause for him to have been awarded d FGM which was not d country he selected shows he did very well as compared to other guys who selected FGM. Las Las na still grace in disguise

KoolK:
What if the selection is based on interview performance, and if there is a tie, they refer to the grading of O level and degree.

But will there be need to perform in the interview when your grades are things that are constant?? When we have them fully uploaded in our portal. Am also confused frm that statement "Selection will be based strictly on the performance in the interview"

XtraSmooth404:
It's easy to infer you don't have a fantastic O'level result, else if you did have, you won't have issues with PTDF awarding 30 marks for WAEC


Everybody wants their selling points to have more marks

Lol...at least my O'level no too bad lyk dat na .....just saying this from a neutral ground so that who so ever is preparing for PTDF will b very serious with his SOP and Interview in general and not b deceived by his O'level grades. Even our universities now admit students base on JAMB and POST UTME score bcuz they no longer have faith in our WAEC/NECO results

Dreldee:
Whatch this: A panelist being interviewed by PTDF on their Facebook page on assessment
https://fb.watch/dxJX0SYnG9/

Listening to both Interviews, there speech emphasises on SOP/Research proposal and are directed to mek recommendations as well...looking at research that can address some of the country's problems. I have confidence that no way O'level will take upto 30 marks( that's 1/3.3 of the total score na) for O'level exam wey no dey pure for Nigeria.

Liebermann:
You're missing out my point here. I don't inherently have a problem with people with 2.2 being invited or even winning this scholarship. My main issue is the unfair boost such an unreliable criteria like the O'Level gives. Let me try to put together an example.

Candidate A
Excellent O'Levels
2.2 Degree
Mediocre SOP

Candidate B
Mediocre O'Levels
1st Class Degree
Excellent SOP

Given the current marking scheme, candidate A will almost always beat candidate B and I don't see the rationality in this. And to say that O'Level grades still carry this much weight (30 marks) for PhD is just asinine. Its indefensible.

Yes that's exactly my points too.....

Liebermann:
But the points from these "tertiary qualifications" heavily rely on the SOP which is a subjective criteria dependent on the panel you face. Still not a fan of O'Levels carrying the most objective points in a process like this.

If truly the list is ranked based on the highest scoring candidates in a state I'm pretty sure someone with 2.2 came 3rd in my state in 2021. I guess this confirms the importance of O Levels above every other objective criteria. Not against it in principle but I would like to hope that they have a rigorous criteria for judging SOPs and proposals that really sets apart deserving candidates and that someone doesn't just scale through primarily based on the advantage of the O'Levels which as we all know is heavily compromised.

I still want to say this, let's u have complete 9 A's , if your SOP/Proposal is not strong or obtain some level of set points for it no hope for you. While watching the interview news some years bak, PTDF official clearly stated it out that the most important thing they are checking is the SOP/Proposal. Most people with 2:2 or 3rd class have won a competitive international scholarship bcuz they have strong and well written SOP's so even PTDF knows this. And that's why they also invite 2:2 candidates with industry experience for interview. Looking at the 2018/2019 and 2019/2020 scoring sheet, no points were allocated to O'level despite last year the panels asked for O'level results and subject grades entered into their system. O'level doesn't play a most significant role in determining successful awardees oo.....

babey543:
Your wife might win it. She scored 28 over 30 in her O level part ( 4A1 and 1B3)
Wife score for first degree and Masters: 6 plus 8: 14 over 20.
Total score: 42 over 50

Some First Class and Distinction holders have average scores in their O levels and therefore will miss out:
Typical First class and Distinction: 20 over 20
Typical O levels: 4B3 and 1C6: 16 plus 1: 17 over 30
Total score: 37 over 50.

That is five marks difference in favour of your wife. This is why considerable 2.2 graduates win PTDF scholarship.
It is not a man-know-man like some people think.

This is good, but then am trying to figure out why O'level grade is times 3.75 that of first degree grade. Some one here mentioned that he has the original scoring sheet use for this year Interview and that the score for first degree is 8 points. I don't seem to make any sense out of this

babey543:
They also used O Level. Some of my freinds who graduated with 2.1 but with C parallel in O Levels were not invited.

Hmmm...only God knows how this names were actually arranged....hoping for the best

Engr2016:
Bro, I know what I am saying. From my analysis, about 20% of those in the upper quartile are majorly 1st class. But that does not mean those in the remaining 80% cannot win the award. Remember, performances in the interviews can rearrange the entire list. Nobody should be proud at all. Only the grace of GOD will determine the eventual winners. This calls for humility.

But we didn't even consider the possibility of arranging the names according to the "COURSE OF STUDY" which might be arranged alphabetically, please is there any one who can verify this??

Tingotoe:
Fatima this is not correct. 1st class is 8 points, 2 1 is 5 points and 2 2 is 3 points. I am in possession of the marking scheme

Pls what is the grading points for O'level results??

Liebermann:
https://www.solomonubani.com/2019/01/ptdf-scholarship-interview.html#:~:text=The%20PTDF%20scholarship%20panel%20usually,8%20and%205%20points%20respectively.

This is the scoring criteria most people here keep referring to and it's 100% wrong. The grading system for that PTDF shortlist seems a lot more intricate as certain considerations were possibly made including field, gender, etc. Further variations will occur during the interview as the subjects for O'Level chosen for that list may differ. Then comes publications and memberships and then the interview will carry a significant portion of the total grade. I like where I'm sitting and it seems fitting but I'm under no illusions because at the end of the day though the list might give you an idea of what you're working against, after that interview the list becomes absolutely useless.

Yap I hve seen this also, but this guy marking scheme 1st class= 8 marks differ from that of 2018 and 2019. Hmmm the way things are unfolding, na who get grace pass go dey successful list ooo, this one that a key factor "publications" were cancelled both for M.sc and PH.d only God knows what they all consider in place of that.
In 2019/2020, one of the panel openly told me that "I don't have publication and I need full scholarship??" Wic shows it was an important variable. That same year a lot of people won the scholarship without publication and professional membership. And that's called "GRACE"

ExpertNLer:
Exactly that order is without the interview component, and the interview component can swing things in favour of those with grace, so prayer is key

Yap I think I concur with ur judgement, normally companies or organization program a software that can automatically reduce/screen out applicants using some set conditions. As it is not easy to manually screen out thousand plus applications. So I guess the software arranged the candidates according to their scores, By the way the list was published even b4 the end of the interview. Someone here said he has d original marking scheme and dat 1st class has a total points of 8, let's assume WAEC has a total of 30 marks (5A's) all 2gether will be 38. I only consider this two bcuz they are most likely the two variables PTDF use to program her software. Then I guess the remaining 62 marks are distributed to SOP/PROPOSAL, dressing, knowledge of the subject matter, presentation, and recommendation. I stand to be enlighten more

1b8m:
what's this one saying? just shut up man.

Lol...so you don't even know anything about research and you are here ranting rubbish. I hve gone through the complete article of the abstract u shared and was just waiting for u to answer those my questions, I for show you SHEGE. Claiming local champion in ur cubicle (community) and think the blogosphere is where u can also do that. Knowledge is deep and exceeds any individual understanding, don't underestimate any region, tribe or individual that's my general advice.
Consequently, I will not engage u in any further discussion. @Liebermann, @jlomz mek we 4get am abeg. Na things wey him cram mek 1st class or 2:1 dey deceive am...

1b8m:
Are you done with your epistle?

The underdevelopment of the north is caused by the gross low IQ of it's people.

This was what I thought was an intelligent topic as there are several citations on academic journals to back it up. It had no intention to demean you. Maybe we could talk about the corruption in nddc another day. But for now disprove the argument or get off my dick just so funny how people get emotional especially when faced with fact. I know there's a problem in nddc but keep it for another day. Let's solve this one that came in handy today

Lol..is as if you want this dragged further, I thought some senses most hve gotten into u by now.
From the Abstract you shared, what is the problem of the research??, What is the theoretical concept of the research?? Untill you can answer this questions, thats when I all take you serious as someone who knows what he is doing academically and I can confidently engage u for further discussion.

DMainMan:
Please, bro. It is enough now.

Actually, our southern leaders are wicked and nimwits too. There is corruption in all regions. I will take any competent person to rule Nigeria irrespective of their tribe, religion or race to make our country better.

One thing all Nigerian rich leaders and politicians have irrespective of their region, tribe and religion is unity, love and support for one another in any course they do. That is why most Nigerian rich leaders and politicians enforce their offspring to marry one another irrespective of their region, tribe and religion to retain and expand their wealth and power. They attend each other occasions and celebrations. They may be disguised at the surface but they love and help one another through their wealth and connection. APC and PDP are the same. The old leaders who formed Nigeria are still ruling us today with their offspring through these connections.

We the poor masses should do the same and connect with one another irrespective of our tribe, region and religion. All this hatred we are all exhibiting here is their master plan. That is the only way they can still gain and retain power through this division. Nigeria will be better if tribalism and religious extremism can be eradicated. We the youths must not follow this ugly pattern for Nigeria's development.

Let us now focus on PTDF.

U have said it all...that's exactly what am trying to let the dude know. NDDC was created and enough funds have been pumping to that board, yet the funds were looted by the same politicians in the south, was it a northerner that looted it? Some times in 2020 NDDC scholars in UK were seriously protesting lack of their tuition payment by the board, yet NDDC officials spent billions of Naira for themselves just for 1 week trip to Italy. not untill President Buhari had to step in and directed d board to immidietely clear her scholars tuition fees (you can Google that). Even the minister of NDDC God'swill Akpabio is not an exception, yet this things cannot open your eyes to the truth that this politicians are only after themselves and their family. Despite the political rivalry between Buhari and Atiku Abubakar, the day Buhari's Son got married it was the same Atiku who stand in as the father to Buhari's son in that wedding, even Femi Fani Kayode was fully in attendance.
Yet this things didn't ring any bell to your ears. University education is not only for academic purpose ooo, it's a place where u get exposure to ur community, social values and responsibilities e.t.c

1b8m:
Oh! Now your problem is semantics? but it was you who asked me to prove that "intelligence" = development na...abi this time you want me to prove literacy = development? Oluku!

I'll advice you take out your frustration on Elsevier and Wikipedia, not me!


At least I own and run a poultry business amongst other of my enterprises...now tell me you dusty raggedy head slammer, has the federal government given you your 5k/month allawee? Hungry looking scums always putting the country in bad light

Lol...this are the kind of people destroying Nigeria across religious and ethnicity, with this his mindset if given leadership position he will do worst than most of this our leaders. A suitable candidate that can bring development to the country will not be considered due to his ethnic or religious background. Why I love ASUU and Will continue to Love them is that, there is no religious or ethnic differences among them of cause what do u expect? Association full of intellectuals, integrity and respect for one another, even though the communication minister who was promoted to the rank of a professor despite being a northerner was denied and criticized by a fellow norther(Prof. Faruq Kperogi) bcuz he didn't deserve it. That's y today the FG are scared and respect ASUU wether openly or secretly bcuz they cannot devide them in terms of religious or ethnicity as they do to the citizens who are either illiterate or literate but selfish.

1b8m:
My simple submission remains: the measure of a people's smartness is evident in the development of their society and their standard of living. This is not aimed at disrespecting anybody or any region, it's a mere fact glaring to ordinary unaided eyes.

Meanwhile, by experience I've learnt that people who draw out their feats and achievements to buttress their feeble arguments are actually empty naive and parochial. If I reel out my feats you'll evaporate, trust me!

Lol...I sighted example with what I have witnessed and very sure of, if u think it's for showing achievements oga dats ur business feel free to list out ur feats and let's c who all get to evaporate. By the way u haven't provided any proof as wether intelligence is proportional to development. If it was, India would have been one of d most developed country in the world, check out their GRE and GMAT scores u will know how far.

1b8m:
Population has nothing to do with anything, when people are dumb they are dumb! Russia has more population than Qatar yet has a society as developed as it, if not more. China has more than quadruple the size of Qatar yet is a more developed society than it.

Don't lose touch with reality trying to contest
a fact that is very glaring. The north has less smart people than other regions and it's evident in their growth and development.

Your argument shows how little minded and lack of exposure u hve in regards to other regions in Nigeria. During my service year in osun state 2018, I created a mathematical equations wic I can use during the state governorship elections to ease my ballot paper statistics as I was d presiding officer in my unit and too lazy to be doing some counting, this Yoruba corpers were shocked bcuz they thought "aboki" are dullards and were still asking me to know wether am truly from the North. Well I don't blame them bcuz they have never travel outside their region b4. in 2019, I sat for African University of Science and Technology entrance examination and I made the regular admission list, out of the 13 candidates admitted to M.sc in Theoretical and Applied Physics, 8 were northers, 3 were yorubas and 2 were from South east. This is an exam that is set by German and Chinese Physicist, u can Google about the school. some time in 2016, PTDF sent some of her oversea scholars to d school instead of sending them to UK. My advice is don't argue about intelligent, smartness e.t.c on the bases of region or even among your own people or friends bcuz those you think are not intelligent or smart, if given the previllage and opportunity they will do far better than you

Liebermann:
Not difficult to find people with 5 O level distinctions in every state. Not difficult to find the same people with at least 2.1 or merits. The oral interviews aren't very rigorous. Comes down to very close margins.

Oga everything boils down to grace no matter ur grades wether low or high. For example d panel might decide to grade ur SOP(the most important) full marks, ur dressing full marks even though u dres rough, ur knowledge of the subject matter full marks, recommendation full marks. Even though u hve 1st class and 5A's u cannot meet up with someone with those records even though the person has 2:1 or 2:2 and credits. I keep on saying this what PTDF are looking at is not ur certificates alone but what do u hve to offer. Let's u hve the highest point and ur recommendation and SOP were graded very low oga 4get am, they might as well assume u only cram and pass of cause we have seen so many 1st class that even 3rd class from anoda school are better than them(Facts). In 2020 PTDF Interview, one of the panel told me "U DON'T HAVE RESEARCH PUBLICATIONS AND U WANT US TO GIVE YOU SCHOLARSHIP??" can u imagine, despite I am an M.sc applicant, he did not even look at my certificate grades sef. The man was offset with me because I didn't present my original WAEC. he was just angrily asking me for other things. So u c bcuz of this d man will just grade other score very low, na Nigeria we dey where one thing will be use to disqualify any other thing. SOP/Research proposal are the most important, no body go spend him money for u to go and cram and obtain ur certificates, that's y PTDF invites even 2:2 with industry experience. Many scholars won Erasmus and Chinese government scholarships, if u check there SOP very superb. A guy was told by his panel he scored 88 points, to show u hw close he was with d panels but my guy name no show for d final list. Omoh na by grace ooo, viewing dat list of shortlisted applicants na prayer go scale u through not ur points ooooo

Liebermann:
Is this assessment based on any objective observation or is it just wishful thinking? Ask yourself that.


No point going back on forth on this. Whatever the case may be, just pray you're successful.

A lady left a panel and was crying, my guy had his interview immidietely after d lady then he over heard one of d panel saying he graded her 49 points and d other panel also said that's what she deserve to get bcuz he graded her 40 plus too......what u should ask yourself is, supposing it was grades wic of cause are fixed points would d panel hve doubted the points he scored her?? All am saying is guys let's pray we meet gud panels. A lady got this scholarship without any question being asked or telling them about her SOP. She said as soon as d panels saw her they told her she came with a good energy omoh they begin to pray and advice her ooo that's hw she ended her Interview. Mine was dxem, as I was leaving I heard the other panel that was recording my degree and O'level grades asked one of the panel In charge saying "which points are we going to give him" I been want stay hear am ooo I say mek I respect myself, mek I no cme hear point wey go give me hypertension ���

Liebermann:
The grades from your credentials count as part of your performance in the interview.

I am not totally disputing the facts that grades are not used, but knowledge about the subject matter, recommendation by d panels, dressing, SOP/Proposal (M.sc/Ph.D) this things carry more marks and PTDF considers them very important. Today if u touch some 1st or 2:1 graduates u go wonder hw dey got the result sef. PTDF knows this that's y they put more weight on those things I mentioned. Lastly na by grace ....(grace= meeting gud panels dat will listen to u, pik an interest in what u intend to do or just lovely u naturally as soon as u are in front of them)

XtraSmooth404:
Nah, you're wrong. If there's one thing that has been constant in all the centres, it's the grading of O'level, BSc, and masters (for PhD).
Past scholars I know had fantastic O'level results, awards, BGS, etc.
Getting this offer without publication or professional membership boils down to your state of origin. You're not competing with the full Nigeria, the battle is between you and other candidates from your state of origin!

What can you say about the statement singled out boldly?? Two guys from dxem state applied to UK, one had a 1st class and good o'level grades and the other had a 2:1 with O'level grades not as good as d former, wen result came out, d 2:1 guy got the scholarship infact they both graduated from dxem department, what can u say about this??

FatimaMK:
According to the last year's marking scheme for PhD: First degree was 15 points if you have first class while 12 points for second class upper, masters was 15 points if you have distinction while 12 for merit, o level 15 points if you have 5A1 (A1 is 3 points, B2 is 2.5 points, B3 is 2 points, C4 is 1.5 points, C5 is 1 point and C6 is 0.5 point), Publication is 5 points, membership certificates 10 points (5 is required) and interview/proposal takes the remaining 40 marks.
But it seems they made some changes this time around.

From my point on view, all this Degree and O'level grading doesn't count, I think they were used to initially shortlist the candidates who met their stipulated requirements and scored high points from their state. PTDF clearly stated it out on their interview notice written boldly that "ONLY CANDIDATES WHO PERFORM VERY WELL IN THE INTERVIEW WILL BE SHORTLISTED" looking at the past scholars stories, almost all had a good Interview story, many got scholarship without publications, professional membership and with lower grades. D Interview is to check ur originality of ur certificates too. That's my view and stand to be enlighten

ComradeTY:
Publication is not under consideration but patent for Abuja PhD interview

Please can you elaborate more on this, what do you mean by patent? And does that also apply to M.sc??

victor5996:
I think the professors or lecturers generally might be the problem. It's 2022 and not 1989... I was shocked when I got asked Navier Stokes. I'm in the energy sector and I'm talking about energy issues but you want to ask Fluid Mechanics and Dynamics. This has to be my worst interview experience ever���

Although I am an M.sc applicant but this is my advice to the Ph.D applicants, don't allow any professor or lecturer to mislead u from your research proposal. He is an expert in his field and so do u, this people might deliberately lead you away from ur work just to c how smart u are, we c this behavior during departmental seminars and research proposal even when the Lecturers present are in the same department as u, moreless of a professor who is totally outside your field what do u expect. So when they mislead u away from ur work just politely bring them back to the right track.
Wishing us best of luck all.

chryste123:
Is there any need remaining online in this situation? Will it be taken as concluded?

Anyone please?

Remain online, there are people who waited for morethan 8 hours, some just few minutes and they were attended to. It's base on luck, remain online

I must say that PTDF actually knows what they are doing, it's not easy grading about 30,000 plus candidates. what most organisations do is that they have a software that automatically screen out applicants base on the instructions giving to it. So I think that is what PTDF used to reduced number of applicants down to 8,800 for interview. That means 8,800 obtain their minimum score. Again some first class and upper class are just by paper and not the head, there are many people who are good with research and innovation skills but graduated with lower or third class. In today's world no body is ready to spend his money on someone for just certificate but for some one with a research and innovative interest.

pijay:
Concentrate on this:

In my opinion, this is a decision that should be deliberated upon by the PTDF board, while keeping in mind that academic excellence is of great benefit, the assessment has to encompass character, integrity and learning, and most importantly Leadership as academics alone cannot be the only criteria to be measured.

However, PTDF should work towards an online grading and screening of applicants before the invitations for interview are sent.

All the documents checked and graded at the interview venue could have been graded online, ranging from;
O’Level, First Degree, Professional Membership, Publication and SOP. Thereby allowing for efficient use of time and also providing equal opportunity for applicants to know how they were graded.

Thereafter, if the cut-off grade is set at 80%, only those who have pulled 80% and above would be invited for aptitude test and thereafter, interview.

This will lead to proper time management, objectivity of assessment procedure and overall efficiency of the test processes.

tolaade1960:
Is good to share your interview experience but avoid self-awarding report and pray for God's favor, there are many best candidates in the race.

By the time the rankings are done for the participants, we shall see results.

lol no body is awarding praises to him/her self, just sharing what really happened during the interview. By the way we all know how scholarship work, u might have all excellent result but lack discipline, u might have poor result but have that single thing the panels need. It all boils down to grace at the end of the day.

My interview went smoothly, I didn't even know when and why the panelists started calling me Prof. The lady in charge told me she pick interest in one of my published research work and was asking me hw did I go about it. She went as far as telling the other panels that if I published this work in one journal they might removed my name and put theirs. I give God all the glory.