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sagenaija:
Before Islam Mohamed worked as a staff of his first wife Kadija before she took him as a husband. This shows the position women had in Arabia pre-Islam. Women could choose whom to marry.

When Islam came we have the following from the Koran:
1. Men are allowed to beat their wives
Koran 3:34
Pickthall: Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

2. Mohamed said women lacked common sense
Sahih Muslim 79a; (Sunnah.com)
O womenfolk, you should give charity and ask much forgiveness for I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell. A wise lady among them said: Why is it, Messenger of Allah, that our folk is in bulk in Hell? Upon this the Prophet observed: You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses. I have seen none lacking in common sense and failing in religion but (at the same time) robbing the wisdom of the wise, besides you. Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense and with religion? He (the Holy Prophet) observed: Your lack of common sense (can be well judged from the fact) that the evidence of two women is equal to one man, that is a proof of the lack of common sense, and you spend some nights (and days) in which you do not offer prayer and in the month of Ramadan (during the days) you do not observe fast, that is a failing in religion.

3. Mohamed offered little hope to women for the afterlife.
Sahih al-Bukhari 1052b
I also saw the Hell-fire and I had never seen such a horrible sight. I saw that most of the inhabitants were women." The people asked, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Why is it so?" The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "Because of their ungratefulness." It was asked whether they are ungrateful to Allah. The Prophet said, "They are ungrateful to their companions of life (husbands) and ungrateful to good deeds. If you are benevolent to one of them throughout the life and if she sees anything (undesirable) in you, she will say, 'I have never had any good from you.' "

please stop quoting me ...I beg U in the name of the creator of Jesus

sagenaija:
A definition of rational:
having or exercising reason, sound judgment, or good sense: a calm and rational negotiator. being in or characterized by full possession of one's reason; sane; lucid.

see go and read Qur'an and bible in the light of science

sagenaija:
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You guys are like the element that reacts and starts dashing around on water.

You asked about the Holy Spirit and I showed you Jesus' statement. You didn't even acknowledge that before now dashing off to Deuteronomy. If you read Acts 3 you'll see that Jesus is the prophet like Moses talked about in Deuteronomy.

You're a little bit mixed up. Settle down and CAREFULLY look at what you are presented with rather than jump from one thing to another.

I've shown you that your books do not agree with what you want us to believe your religion stands for. Are you advocating a reformation of Islam?

please stop quoting me... Being literate is beyond ability to read and write being rational is also part of it ...

Please I did not create this post for the sake of abuse but rather to enlighten each other why are we behaving like this...

sagenaija:
Jesus answers here:
But the Comforter, even the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said unto you.
John 14:26 ASV

15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you shall heed such a prophet.

— Deuteronomy 18:15 (New Revised Standard Version)
18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will put my words in the mouth of the prophet, who shall speak to them everything that I command.

— Deuteronomy 18:18-22 (New Revised Standard Version)... Qur'an in the Bible :6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair,and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earthto every nation, tribe, language and people.7 He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory,because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who madethe heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.” bros am not here to argue are to abuse anyone religion...am here to spread light to the universe...

sagenaija:
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So, what you came here to do is spew PROPAGANDA and expect the world to take them in hook line and sinker?

You have addressed the queries to your earlier post but now coming up with more unfounded information.

If you have bought into a lie don't expect everyone else to follow the same path.

sir U have freedom to choose what U believe...if U post ur religion stuff I don't even have that energy to be replying and quoting U back to back...but please who is the comforter the Bible speak of

See am not here to waste my energy to reply any troll ...but read read here ..
1 - Who was created first, Adam or Satan? The Quran says Satan, the Bible doesn't say anything?

2 - Who was created first, Adam or the Angles? The Quran says the Angels, the Bible doesn't say anything?

3 - Why doesn't the Bible mention that Noah had two wives, one was disobedient, and she died And another which was saved?

4 - Why does the Bible say that Noah's ark is in Ararat but it was discovered in Al-Judyy, as the Quran says so?

5 - Why does the Bible say that God afflicted women for Eve's sin, and the Quran doesn't tell us such thing?

6 - Where does the Bible tell us about the story of Aad and Thamood. The town of Thamoud has been discovered in Saudi Arabia--it's located in a place called Mada-in Saleh. And recently, the town of Aad has been discovered with the help of NASA's satellites. Check the link below:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ubar/

thesicilian:
These are mostly true, not misconceptions.

you have the right to chose what U believe who am I to argue... I pen this topic only for education and enlightening purpose..

Please don't reply with any abusive words... If you need light about islam feel free to ask me

1. Muslims live in the Middle East.

Most Muslims (one billion) live in Asia, predominately in south and southeast Asia. More than 300 million Muslims live in Sub-Saharan Africa as well.

The four largest Muslim populations are in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh, each home to more than 100 million Muslims.

The Middle East is a vague and often negative term which does not accurately reflect where Muslims live.

The majority of people who live in north Africa, the Arabian peninsula, and southwest Asia are Muslims, but they constitute only about 20% of all Muslims.

Map of Muslim Population Worldwide

2. Muslims are Arabs.

An Arab is a person who speaks Arabic as his or her native language, and only twenty percent of Muslims fall into this category. Millions of Arabs are Christians! There are about 300 million Arabic speakers in the world today. Arabic is the majority language of twenty-three nations. Turkish, Iranian, Indonesian, Pakistani and other Muslims may feel hurt if you assume they are Arab.

3. Muslims don’t believe in Jesus and are not interested in him.

Muslims highly respect Jesus as a prophet of God and value his teachings. Muslims often name their sons after Jesus, who they call Isa, although they do not understand Jesus as the son of God or understand that he died on the cross for the sins of mankind. The Qur’an, however, mentions Jesus 93 times, teaching that he preformed miracles, was born of a virgin, and will return again as Messiah. Muslims may ask you, “Why don’t Christians follow the teachings of Jesus?”

4. Muslims worship the moon and a Moon-God.

There are some Christian groups which teach that Allah is an idol for the moon god. Others mistake the Arabic word Allah as meaning a “moon god” because Islam uses the symbol of the crescent moon. This is a very offensive accusation to Muslims. Allah is the Arabic word for God and is very similar to the Hebrew word El and the Aramaic word Elah. The most fundamental belief in Islam is worshiping the one true God. Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews also use the Arabic word Allah for God, as do all Arabic translations of the Bible. There is no other word in Arabic for God. Muslims do not worship the moon. The use of the crescent moon as a symbol of Islam comes from Muslim practice of following a lunar calendar.

5. Muslims support violence and terrorism.

The vast majority of Muslims are moderate, pious people who suffer more from terrorism and violence than non-Muslims. Ninety-three percent of Muslims do not support extremist views of terrorism.

Gallup, Inc. conducted a revealing poll about Moderate vs. Extremist Views in the Muslim World.

6. Muslims are engaged in Jihad (war) against us.

The meaning of the Arabic word jihad is struggle. It usually means a struggle of one’s soul against the self and sinful desires. Muslims refer to this inner struggle as the greater jihad. Muslims also have social campaigns to end poverty and hunger which they also call jihad.

7. All Muslims are the same and all Muslims are either Sunni or Shi’a.

Like Christianity, there are many sects of Islam. The two major branches are Sunni and Shi’a, but there are thousands of sub-groups, each having different doctrines, their own theology, and different Islamic schools of thought and law.

8. Islam oppresses women.

Most of the oppression of women by Islam and Muslims that is highly publicized is usually due to local customs and traditions. Muslim women have been presidents and prime ministers. Violence towards women and forcing them against their will is not permitted by Islam. Care for widows, orphans, and the poor is one of Islam’s strongest teachings. Unfortunately, many women are oppressed, However, this is a global issue and not just Islamic oppression. Prevalence of abuse of women is not higher among Muslims than among non-Muslims.

9. Muslims are ignorant and don’t value education.

Muslims place a high value on education. Many Muslims are highly educated with Master’s degrees and PhDs. Many Muslims speak multiple languages. Until the industrial age, Islamic universities were the world leaders in math, medicine, science, law, architecture, and many other fields of study. The scientific method has its basis in Muslim advancement of science. Muslims cite the Qur’an as their encouragement to seek knowledge of the world around them. Many Muslims come and study at our universities, yet today most Muslims are poor and lack educational opportunities.

10. Muslims place little value on women, family life, and children.

The Muslim community worldwide places a high value on family life. Generations of a family live together, often in the same household. Elderly family members are cared for in this environment; this is viewed as an honor, not a burden. It would be shameful to put them in assisted living or retirement homes. Children are included in all areas of life and usually the center of all family gatherings.

11. Muslims are archaic with little value for culture and the arts.

While Europe was still in the Dark Ages, Muslim societies were making advancements in medicine, mathematics, physics, astronomy, geography, architecture, art, and literature. In fact, the renaissance happened as a result of the ancient and new knowledge reacquired from Muslims universities.

12. Muhammad was the founder of Islam and Muslims worship him.

Muslims believe that Muhammad was God’s last prophet and communicated God’s final revelation. Muslims consider Adam the first Muslim. Muhammad is seen as the best example of how to be a good Muslim. He is held in great esteem, but he is not to be worshiped. Worship is reserved for God alone, and it is strictly forbidden to worship anyone or anything else. Muslims may celebrate Muhammad’s birthday in the same way that we may celebrate Martin Luther King Day or Columbus Day.

13. Muslims are lying about Islam being peaceful.

Most Muslims are moderate, pious, nonviolent people who are trying to honor God in their lives. Muslim scholars who study the Qur’an explain Islam as a religion of peace, and most Muslims see Islam as a religion of peace as well, preferring to let others live as they wish. The media has sensationalized the views of a small percentage of violent extremists as the legitimate understanding of Islam as a community seeking global domination by force.

14. We never hear Muslims speak against terrorism.

This lie is repeated frequently in the media and unfortunately by Christian leaders as well. Leading Muslim groups and scholars constantly denounce the extreme views of violent Muslims, while teaching against and refuting radical teachings. Google “Muslims against terrorism” and you will see this.

15. Islam is growing faster than any other religion

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