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JESHAL007:
I say they are sex objects. You guys still don't get it

That's *ALL* they are. Everything else - the degrees, talents etc is secondary.

They are primarily, fundamentally sex objects

fattprince:
Bro, I understand all these but you can compare an experienced person in these matter to less experienced me. The fact that I'm always emotional when I see any one of them (as you say rating them high while reducing my rating) is the reason I have not gotten close to them. In fact I'm closer to their brothers and Mum than them. They are all nice chaps, and not a bit proud or anything but I'm just still taking my time. You can't blame me completely though because the last girl I was involved with, I know the girl rated me more than I rated her, in fact on that day, I went to her and asked for her name, and told her I will like to have her number when I'm with my phone. Then I saw her again expecting me to come and collect her number, I collected my bro phone and went to her, I gave her the phone and she hesitated for like 2 secs to collect the phone when I acted like I wanted to put the phone in my pocket and said it seems she has changed her mind. She replied No and also rush to collect the phone, that increased my rating and reduced hers. That's how the relationship with the girl that we fvcked the most started. There was a time I got fed up with sex, I wouldn't have thought that was possible before this girl came around.

There are just some variables like tribe and culture, and how closely knit they are as a family, and also this feeling of if I enter there's no coming out, that may be why I'm still undecided about the sisters' matter. As I'm a very deep thinker.

fattprince:
There's this pretty lady in my street. In fact they are 3 sisters, each of them very pretty that I could randomly pick one and be satisfied if the criterium is just physical beauty. To make matters worse(I mean no excuse to hold them to, to warrant me snoozing on their matter)they are all humble and friendly including their brothers and mum. So why I'm writing this was what happened when I went to buy something in a small mart(just a small shop) when she also came to buy something. She greeted me I replied when she told the shop owner what she wanted. The owner asked her to cut what she wanted when she said she can't as she doesn't have nails. I volunteered to help her cut it gave it to her, while I continue to call all I want to buy. She was outside of the shop while I was inside the shop when she was saying what she wanted to buy but after I helped her and went back inside, she entered after me but I didn't know until I wanted to look outside and I saw her beside me, I mean very close that the space between us was like 3 inches. I became very nervous and couldn't even look past her. No lady has made me nervous so I was shocked by the effect she had on me.

Panda7:
♤ When you are being too clingy, emotional and controlling she doesn't care.

♤ When you start ignoring her to feel better, she ignores you too and focuses on who is more emotionally matured that shows she is more matured than you.

♤ A Man's age never guarantees emotional maturity, experience does.

♤ In all you do, you must be emotionally more matured than the female in the relationship else she isn't your class.

Panda7:
On the other hand the female gender no really send una. People are sha learning to be emotionally independent

segcymoor:
Nothing dey there.. just get woman of your taste to enjoy her to fullest

Ed12:
When you finally learn about women and understand their nature you will be tempted to want to hate them. It's courage as a man to continue to deal with them normally. Because you will understand every motives behind what they do and how they do it.

You will be able to see your mother through the same lens of your father.

You will realise that women understand women that's why it's difficult for them to cooperate to achieve a common goal.

That when you realise that manipulation na water!

Tenrack:
and how has this ideology been working out from them that finally got married? Are they getting the sex they envisaged before getting married?

Panda7:
Am not surprised anymore when I hear guys are banging guys. This your write up make sense to you?

fattprince:
That's the issue, she wasn't like that before. When she started insinuating it I told her directly she's being influenced but she denied it, but I told her as I've always told her whether she's being influenced or not and whether me choosing to do it or not is basically going to be down to our decisions and we all are going to face the consequences or not. I love you doesn't mean I'm in love because I do it with my head not my heart.

JESHAL007:
Good morning @ CaveAdullam would love a response to these question above, I'm currently dating someone that's a salary earner like me, I need more prudent guidance

Too many womanisers, tufia. My sister had to block like 20 people because of collecting of number, I remember one that said that he wants to make her a model, that she should come to his house let him snap her, na so some men dey desperate.

David405:
@ubunja I have seen a lot of your line of thoughts and red pill ideologies. I now understand why some guys and a lot of ladies here usually conflict with you.

In as much as your Red pill theories have some elements of truth in them, sometimes, they are just too extreme and makes false assumptions.

It is a very huge fallacy to say Girls date for money, I mean, have you possibly interacted with every girl in Nigeria to know why they get in relationships? Personally, I have met girls that all they want is just great sex, some others, they just want your companionship and to feel good about themselves. For example, last year, on my girlfriend's birthday, we went out for a dinner date, having this mindset that spending would make her happy, but she was unimpressed, the only thing she wanted that day was that I followed her home, spent the night with her which I didn't do, I had work to do that night, she was unhappy about that for a long time.

My point is, it is a fallacy for someone to claim, all girls are the same or they want the same thing, same as guys, we all are different, we all want different things at different point in our lives, sometimes, we want money, sometimes sex, other times friendship. Red pill and PUA strategies will make more sense when they begin to factor in the fact that not all girls are the same.

Also, there is no such thing as nice guy or bad guy in terms of dating or attraction, people are people, a girl treating you badly or refusing you has nothing to do with being a nice guy, it means what it means, she ain't interested!

Most times, Red pill paints a scenario where the "nice guys" are usually naive, ugly, poor while the "bad guys" are attractive, confident, rich guys, and this sounds very theoretical and extreme, people are people, some guys want to be in a serious relationship as do some guys, some others just want a fling or play around, it has nothing to do with them being nice guys or bad boys.

@proclinician using your experience to judge the all girls puts you in the same boat as trialists that say, All Igbos are this or All yoruba are that. Our experiences doesn't always reflect reality, for example, in this same Nigeria where some people have a hard time eating thrice a day, some others are paying millions just for a flight .

Pardon my long epistle, I just feel I should let all these out, finally, it is a fallacy to say, the Majority makes up the whole, besides, no one has interacted with the majority of girls in the country, so we cannot even authoritatively state what the majority of girls date for. @ubunja, I believe you should listen more to what other people have to say, no one or theory is 100% correct all the time.

emmaodet:
Waoooooooooo
Just waoooooo
Though you are right but i believe a woman closing her legs won't take her far.

Let me share my experience, I had a lady sometimes back, a long distant relationship but we do sexx chat a lot and she do show or send me are nudes pix and videos even when masturbating but for some reasons and my non-challant attitude, i didn't bang her despite financial commitment.
When i tried seeing her, she started dribbling me and i had to painfully stop the relationship even though up till today, i still get hurt remembering it.
At a point, she opened up she doesn't want to bang me but just for us to be friends.
What kind of friend is that? That i will be committing financial for nothing?
You can see she didn't open up her legs nor did i continued the commitment.

Pukkalolo:
The bolded part shows you’re still missing the point entirely.


I want you to understand that, Frank Edoh’s wife didn’t cheat because he kept malice.

She cheated BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO CHEAT

That’s the ugly truth most Naija men refuse to swallow.

When a woman decides to sting you, whether through cheating, disrespect, betrayal, sudden breakup or withdrawal… she will always cook up a perfect excuse to play the victim and paint you as the villain.

She’ll cry to family, friends and the public:

“He’s toxic.”

“He keeps malice.”

“He’s too controlling.”

“He’s whatever story that makes her look innocent and you look like the monster who failed her.

It’s a classic, calculated move.
Even when the man did everything: provided, sacrificed, loved hard, stayed loyal… she’ll twist the narrative so she can leave with a clean conscience and public sympathy.

Bro, have you even asked why Frank Edoh started keeping malice? Do you know what got him to that breaking point?

I’m not defending him, but let’s be genuinely honest right now: if she was truly submissive, respectful, and honoured him as her husband, do you think he would have reached that breaking point?

A lot of women are masters at manipulation and emotional blackmail.

They can take a good man who gave his blood, sweat, and future for her and still make him feel like he was never enough.
They can turn a devoted provider into the villain of the story.. both in her head and in the eyes of the world.

This is why so many good men leave relationships feeling broken, guilty, and lost, asking themselves in the dead of night:

“What did I do wrong?”

The painful answer most men are too scared to accept is this:

Most times, women don’t cheat or leave because of something you did.

They cheat or leave because they want to… and then rewrite history to make themselves the victim and you the monster.

Be wise, brothers.

emmaodet:
If am to make a suggestion, I will say the easier way of getting sex is to move with a guy that easily bed women without using money.
I have 1 or 2 guys like that around me.
I don't know how they do it Agboola and Femi sleep with women like someone changing boxers.
They go to the bank, they will collect number.
Inside the cab, somehow they will strike conversation and collect number.
Just name it - church, school, street, anywhere.
Believe me, they will bed atleast 50% of them within a week.
A woman sent her younger sister to Agboola's wife. Unfortunately she didn't meet her at home and just by the door side, Agboola initiated conversation with her and within minutes banged the lady.
It was not premeditated, not planned by both.
Infact, as at that morning, there wasn't any plans of meeting her nor knowing her.
The Lady's aunt will not even think such will happen within that period nor will Agbo wife think of such.
These guys are just the messi and Ronaldo of women.
Add money to them and you have monsters ravaging women round the street.
If you move with such men, naturally you will pick up some traits from them and improve your skills with women

JESHAL007:
Please sir how can we win with regards to women as we pursue our ambition of wealth accumulation, should we be monogamous, monogamous with side chicks, monogamous with prostitutes, patronise only prostitutes, watch porn and masturbate only, be polygamous, cut off totally from women sexually and romantically, everything has its pros and cons, I need matured advice for young ambitious men who don't have enough experience in the game as they are still in their 20's

JESHAL007:
See it's painful, but the other alternative which is very risky is locking up your heart and paying cheap prostitutes for sex which is expensive and cause diseases if you are not careful not saying your girlfriend can't give you disease but how can you win as a man, please let's ponder on these and ask ourselves what do we stand to gain from women, remember it's sex that driving us consciously and subconsciously, how can we win these gender war, what I know is that love and romance is a facade these age as women have abundance and harem of men so they can't fall in love deeply like us, how can we play these games with the least emotional and financial investment, women would always be costly if not in monetary terms but in valuable time, emmaodet how can we win

gentlegiant95:
I've asked severally for her to open up to me and tell me if she's seeing other persons, so we can be clear on what we're doing, atleast so i can start protecting my self (we usually have unprotected sex) but she wouldn't budge, even after I saw her chats with that guy, she claims she's had nothing with him which is hard to believe, and I've also seen a recent chat on her phone in which she referred to someone she says is her brother as "my love"

monerozi5590:
And I am telling you the most difficult masculine trait is your ability to provide. We should all aim for it

Urgent1Million:
Ned would've deleted the tape by now.
He's not that unreasonable to release the nudes of his children's mama.
This whole saga is a lesson to men.
Never marry a girl who hasn't seen all about life. It always doesn't end well.

Cybertroll:
What you wrote makes sense to you?

Cybertroll:
What you wrote makes sense to you?