Saudi preacher gets fine and short jail term for raping and killing daughter

Published: 03 February, 2013, 13:06



Image from facebook.com @We-are-supporting-Manal-Alsharif claims to show Fayhan Ghamdi

Public anger has gripped Saudi Arabia after a prominent preacher who raped and beat to death his 5-year-old daughter was sentence to a few months in jail and a $50,000 fine – known as 'blood money' – to compensate the victim's relatives.

­According to (Wahhabi/Salafist interpretation of) Islamic law, the 'blood money' can be paid in lieu of the death penalty. The preacher's fine was reportedly half the usual amount because the victim was a girl.

Saudi preacher Fayhan Ghamdi, a frequent guest on (Wahhabi/Salafist) Muslim TV networks, confessed to using cables and a cane to inflict the injuries, AFP reported, quoting activists from the group ‘Women to Drive.’

Ghamdi reportedly doubted that his daughter, Lama Ghamdi, was a virgin, and forced her to undergo a medical inspection.

In December 2011, Lama was admitted to hospital with multiple injuries, including a crushed skull, broken ribs and left arm, and extensive bruising and burns, according to the activist group. Hospital worker Randa Kaleeb said that the girl's back was broken, and that she had been raped "everywhere."


Lama al-Ghamdi (Screenshot from youtube.com)

­The hospital told the victim's mother that her child's “rectum had been torn open and the abuser had attempted to burn it closed,” AFP reported on Saturday.

In October 2012, the girl died from her injuries. The following November, the father was arrested. The judge ruled that the "blood money and the time the defendant had served in prison since Lama's death suffices as punishment," activists reported.

The incident sparked public anger in Saudi Arabia, prompting an online Twitter campaign calling for more severe punishment for violence against women and children. The 'Women to Drive' campaign, launched by women's rights activist Manal Sharif, has demanded the creation of legislation that would criminalize violence against women and children.

The petition is circulating on Twitter under the hashtag 'Ana Lama' – "I am Lama" in Arabic.

The issue has gained widespread traction in Saudi Arabia, and authorities promised to set up a 24-hour hotline that will take calls regarding child abuse.

https://rt.com/news/saudi-preacher-fine-rape-333/

Iran to unveil upgraded domestically manufactured tanks

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Iran's Zolfaqar-3 battle tank (file photo)

Sat Feb 2, 2013 9:33PM GMT

The Islamic Republic of Iran will be unveiling upgraded versions of two domestically designed and manufactured battle tanks this week.

The Zolfaqar and Samsam tanks will be put on display on Monday as part of the Ten-Day Dawn celebrations commemorating the victory of Iran’s Islamic Revolution in 1979.

The commander of the Iranian Army, Brigadier General Ahmad Reza Pourdastan, and a number of other high-ranking military officials will be attending the unveiling ceremony.

On January 15, Pourdastan said that the fire control system and the stabilizer of the new version of the Zolfaqar tank have been upgraded, adding that the tank will be mass-produced after receiving the approval of the office of the chief of the general staff of the armed forces.

Iran’s Zolfaqar tank has a distinctive box-shaped, steel-welded turret and is operated by a crew of three.

The tank is armed with a 125mm smoothbore 2A46 gun, which is fitted with a fume extractor. Its secondary armament consists of a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun and a 12.7mm machine gun.

The Samsam tank is said to be an upgrade of the M-60A1 battle tank.

In recent years, Iran has made great achievements in its defense sector and attained self-sufficiency in producing essential military equipment and systems.

Tehran has repeatedly assured other nations that its military might poses no threat to other countries, saying that the Islamic Republic’s defense doctrine is entirely based on deterrence.

MP/HGL

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/02/286974/iran-to-unveil-upgraded-indigenous-tanks/

Ahmadinejad unveils Iran's newest combat jet


Published February 02, 2013

Associated Press


TEHRAN, Iran – Iran unveiled on Saturday its newest combat jet, a domestically manufactured fighter-bomber that military officials claim can evade radar.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a ceremony broadcast on state TV that building the Qaher-313, or Dominant-313, shows Iran's will to "conquer scientific peaks."

The Qaher is one of several aircraft designs rolled out by the Iranian military since 2007. Tehran has repeatedly claimed to have developed advanced military technologies in recent years but its claims cannot be independently verified because the country does not release technical details of its arsenals.

The Islamic republic launched a self-sufficiency military program in the 1980s to compensate for a Western weapons embargo that banned export of military technology and equipment to Iran. Since 1992, Iran has produced its own tanks, armored personnel carriers, missiles, torpedoes, drones and fighter planes.

"Qaher-313 is a fully indigenous aircraft designed and built by our aerospace experts. This is a radar-evading plane that can fly at low altitude, carry weapons, engage enemy aircrafts and land at short airstrips," Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi said.

Some reports however suggest Iran's program relies on equipment supplied by major international defense contractors -- incorporating parts made abroad or reverse-engineered technologies into its domestic designs.

Still photos of the Qaher released by the official IRNA news agency and pictures on state TV show a single-seat jet. They described it as a fighter-bomber that can combat both other aircraft and ground targets.

Iran's English-language state Press TV said Qaher was similar to the American-made F/A-18, an advanced fighter capable of dogfighting as well as penetrating enemy air defenses to strike ground targets.

Physically, Press TV said, the aircraft resembles the F-5E/F Tiger II, a much older American design that Iran has had in its arsenal since it was supplied to the U.S.-allied regime of the Shah before Iran's 1979 revolution.

"Development depends on our will. If we don't have a will, no one can take us there," Ahmadinejad told the inauguration ceremony in Tehran. "Once we imported cars and assembled them here. Now, we are at a point where we can design, build and get planes in the air."

Iran unveiled what it said was its first domestically manufactured fighter jet, called Azarakhsh or Lightning, in 2007. In the same year, it claimed that Azarakhsh had reached industrial production stage.

Saeqeh, or Thunder, was a follow-up aircraft derived from Azarakhsh. Iran unveiled its first squadron of Saeqeh fighter bombers in an air show in September 2010.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/02/02/ahmadinejad-unveils-iran-newest-fighter-jet-dominant-described-as-evading/#ixzz2JlqYiJBm

Iran unveils Qaher F313 indigenous fighter jet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2aMgfBdCs

Holy Quran 8:60
"And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know [but] whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged".

Iran Inaugurated Ya-Zahra short range air defense system, delivered Mersad medium range AD system


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtCy1f8JyaM

maclatunji: People, that is enough. Obviously, both sides feel they are right. Let each person maintain their lane: "Allah will judge between us on that which we differ.

@Zhul-Fiqar, please remove the tagging of Vedaxcool in your post as 'Miskeen' or I will have to hide it.

Thank you.

done.

fellis:

I thought so. This LagosShia can be scary sometimes.

LagosShia is not your mate.

vedaxcool:

Yawms, please carry on with your biddah practice that imitates christianity, I was only pointing to rafidhi to stop his hypocrisy, shias literally dwells in choosing which hadiths follows their belief and reject whichever hadiths does not even if it is authetic, like the marriage of Umar r.a to Umm kultum! So before he tells others to fear Allah he should first admonish his shia for a crime they commit repeatedly! The muslim ummah needs to stop engaing in needless copying!

LOL

and there goes the hypocrite.honoring the Prophet (s) is "imitating the christians",when the Prophet (s) himself marked the day of his birth by giving thanks to Allah.i wont be suprised if you celebrate your own birthday,or dont you? be honest!

this boy is talking about imitating the christian on a matter the Prophet (s) marked.but this boy does not remember not to imitate the unbelievers when he fasts on the day of Ashura or promoted fasting on the day of Ashura. in fact he justifies copying the jews by claiming that it was the Prophet (s) who first saw the jews fasting and he copied them!!! all in a bid to hide the true meaning of Ashura and the its relation to the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (as) in the Tragedy of Karbala. and by common sense and calculations,it appears beyond a shadow of doubt that the Prophet's (s) migration or the day of Ashura in the year of the hijrah from Makkah did not coincide with any jewish fast.but again sectarianism and fabrications to impose a sectarian agenda and look "distinct" is the motto,so good as the Shia are opposed and left on their own to practice the true and real Islam;while you continue to deceive yourselves and others.

vedaxcool:

You statement shows clearly you don't fear Allah, how else do you explain how you shias choose what sunnah you follow? The hadith in your shia collection(the most authentic collection) that show Ali r.a gave his daughter hand in wedding to Umar r.a means what to you guys? Nothing, hadith showing Ali prayed tarawih means what to you people? Nothing! In essence u choose what you follow, and that is what you user name means rafidi rejecter of hadiths in essence choosing which hadith conveniently follow your logic while rejecting hadiths that actually reject such position! Fear Allah!

Lol detective Maclatunji remember I told u so!

the hadiths on celebrating Mawlid are acceptable hadiths with good grading and authenticity.Sunni scholar and Quran commentator,Jalaluddine al-Suyuti on the basis of what is reported validated mawlid and sees nothing wrong with following it.what is a new phenomenon and a bid'ah is wahhabism encroaching into Sunni minds and those calling for mawlid to be regarded as bid'ah.

you want to divert the topic into discussing something entirely different.but i would not dwell into your blasphemy that Imam Ali (as) gave his daughter to Umar,and the craftiness of a fabrication to counter the Shia on the bid'ah of taraweeh that our Imam Ali (as) prayed taraweeh.i will present Sunni hadiths (below) on the same Umar for your examination.then tell me if the hadiths are acceptable to you.what makes sense and what is authentic is clearly understood and identified by scholars of hadith.tell me if the below blasphemy against the Prophet (s),again to "uplift" the status of Umar are acceptable to you,while demoting the Prophet (s) and presenting him as someone who can be in the company of satan or influenced by an evil spirit to tolerate what is haram or emanating from satans's handiwork.

Shaykh Muhammad Nasir al-Din al-Albani, in his Silsilah al-Ahadith al-Sahihah, vol. 5, p. 330, Number 2261 (see also this link), records:
1.) Narrated Buraydah:
Allah’s Apostle, peace be upon him, went to one of his battles. When he returned, a black girl came to him and said, “O Allah’s Apostle, I made a vow that you Allah returned you safely (from the battlefield), I would beat the Daff and sing in front of you.” Allah’s Apostle said to her, “If you indeed made that vow, then beat. But if you did not, then do not beat.” Then she began to beat. Abubakr entered and she continued to beat. Ali entered and she continued to beat. Uthman entered and she continued to beat. But when Umar entered, she threw the Daff under her buttock and sat upon it. Upon this, Allah’s Apostle, peace be upon him, said, “Satan CERTAINLY fears you O Umar! I was sitting and she get beating. Abubakr entered and she continued beating. Ali entered and she continued beating. Uthman also entered and she continued beating. But when you, O Umar, entered, she threw away the Daff.
Shaykh al-Albani says:
Sahih

The same hadith has been recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi, in his Jami’ al-Tirmidhi, vol. 5, p. 620, Number 3690 (al-Albani ed.). Al-Tirmidhi himself says about the hadith: Hasan Sahih Gharib
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Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 108

2.) Narrated Sa'd:
'Umar bin Al-Khattab asked permission of Allah's Apostle to see him while SOME QURAISHI WOMEN were sitting WITH HIM and they were asking him to give them MORE FINANCIAL SUPPORT while raising their voices over the voice of the Prophet. When 'Umar asked permission to enter, all of them hurried to screen themselves. The Prophet admitted 'Umar and he entered, while the Prophet was smiling. 'Umar said, "May Allah always keep you smiling, O Allah's Apostle! Let my father and mother be sacrificed for you !" The Prophet said, "I am astonished at these women who were with me. As soon as they heard your voice, they hastened to screen themselves." 'Umar said, "You have more right, that they should be afraid of you, O Allah's Apostle!" And then he ('Umar) turned towards them and said, "O enemies of your souls! You are afraid of me and not of Allah's Apostle?" The women replied, "Yes, for you are sterner and harsher than Allah's Apostle." Allah's Apostle said, "O Ibn Al-Khattab! By Him in Whose Hands my life is, WHENEVER SATAN SEES YOU TAKING A WAY, HE FOLLOWS A WAY OTHER THAN YOURS!"

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One wonders why the wives of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family, have been referred to in this hadith simply as “some Quraysh women”! Also, in the other hadiths, a black girl was the agent of Satan through which he allegedly afflicted the Prophet, peace be upon him and his family. Guess who the Satanic agents are in the above hadith?
Sunnis need to re-think these hadiths. How could Umar have saved the greatest of the prophets, peace be upon them all, from the clutches on Satan on at least two occasions? Is this not evidence of Sunni belief that Umar was purer and better than the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family? We would love to see a logical Sunni response to this article.

In conclusion, we invite Sunnis to compare their hadiths with the clear implications of these verses:
[Shakir 15:32-44] He said: O Iblis! what excuse have you that you are not with those who make obeisance? He said: I am not such that I should make obeisance to a mortal whom Thou hast created of the essence of black mud fashioned in shape. He said: Then get out of it, for surely you are driven away: And surely on you is curse until the day of judgment. He said: My Lord! then respite me till the time when they are raised. He said: So surely you are of the respited ones Till the period of the time made known. He said: My Lord! because Thou hast made life evil to me, I will certainly make (evil) fair-seeming to them on earth, and I will certainly cause them all to deviate Except Thy servants from among them, the devoted ones. He said: This is a right way with Me: Surely, as regards My servants, you have NO AUTHORITY over them EXCEPT THOSE WHO FOLLOW YOU of the deviators. And surely Hell is the promised place of them all: It has seven gates; for every gate there shall be a separate party of them.
And:
[Shakir-Quran 5:105] O you who believe! take care of your souls; he who errs cannot hurt you WHEN YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT WAY; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will inform you of what you did.
And:


[Pickthall-Quran 16:98-100] And when thou recitest the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from Satan the outcast. Lo! he hath no power over those who believe and put trust in their Lord. His power is ONLY over those who make a friend of him, AND those who ascribe partners unto Him (Allah).
And:

[Pickthall-Quran 72:27-28] Save unto every messenger whom He hath chosen, and then He maketh a guard to go before him and a guard behind him that He may know that they have indeed conveyed the messages of their Lord. He surroundeth all their doings, and He keepeth count of all things.

The facts speak for themselves.

excerpt from:

"Sunnis' Extreme Ghuluww With Regards to Umar!!!"

http://umar-ibn-khattab..com/2012/08/sunnis-extreme-ghuluww-with-regards-to.html

maclatunji: Zhul-Fiqar=ShiaLagos1

Zhul-Fiqar=ShiaLagos1

if i may recall correctly my brother under the username of LagosShia had clarified this issue previously.we are a group of 6 Shia Muslim individuals posting in this forum to spread the message of true Islam and the path of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) of Prophet Muhammad (s).a couple of us is out of Nigeria.if you also check the Shia pages on facebook,you will see that there is a coordination between the pages under the same admins to spread the message.

we are not here for fame or to become forum celebrities.our goal in this forum and online generally is to spread the message,and let those who have ears and the fear of God listen.those who seek argumentation without reasoning are on there own.our goal is to spread a message and if one of us wants to reply,he can use any of the usernames in the event his own registered name is either banned by spam-bot or by your honorable self.we have no individual ambition to "shine" or become "notables" in the forum.we want our message to gain attention and spread,regardless whether you are convinced or not,because ultimately true guidance is only from Allah (swt).

BetaThings: The Shias routinely talk about unity, but they tell us they don't want it too
What can be inferred beyond taqiyya
Having been told repeatedly that it is Sunnis that have divergent views, I no longer buy the argument that it is only some low level Shias that hold certain provocative opinions

Here is Amar saying that Shias have compromised enough in the name of unity. What compromise? I would really like to know
I know about Azhar trying to accommodate Shia view though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izDif7mH_cs

Here is a fiery confirmation that Shias do not want unity, but seek political DOMINATION
The rub of the matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJox1KDmNeId

BetaThing is promoting unity here!!!

Iran has created an islamic unity week,and al-quds day.Shia dont go about strapped with bombs to kill sunnis in mosques.

instead of doubting the intentions of others and spilling venom out of the insecurity for your beliefs,tell us what you have done to promote muslim unity.

I want to show my immense respect to this cleric.he is speaking out what many Sunni clerics would shy away from saying.his words remind me of the statements of the Shia Sheikh Ibrahim Zakzaky of Zaria.I don't agree entirely with what he said because those salafist fighters causing havoc in Mali are indeed terrorists and not muhahideen at all.these fighters were destroying Islamic heritage sites in Mali.however what I totally agree with Sheikh Gumi is his opposition to Nigeria fighting a war alongside a colonialist and imperalist power like France.France itself is conducting this war on behalf of the US and NATO.it is wrong for any country,especially one like France to interfere in Mali or in another country.France is both mistrusted by africans for colonialism and also by muslims for attacking muslim countries.this so called "war on terror" is becoming a tool for the western countries to use as a convinient excuse whenever they feel like attacking another country.

The fact is there is no "war on terror".these salafist/wahhabi fighters in Mali destroying the tombs of past muslim figures in timbuktu,have their counterparts actively supported by western countries and allies of the west (like turkey and saudi arabia) to fight in Syria.in Syria,the ones regarded in Mali by the west as terrorists are supported by the west in Syria as democracy activists to fight against the anti-west and anti-israel,and pro-iran regime of bashar al-assad;even when it is a fact that majority of Syrians (comprising of Sunni Muslims,Shia Muslims,Alawites and Christians) do support their president.if Bashar al-Assad is the president of Nigeria,the US and the west would have used Boko Haram to oust him from power,and in the process consider Boko Haram not as terrorists.the fact is whether in Syria,Mali or Nigeria (as with the case of boko haram) ,these salafist/wahhabi fighters are terrorists.the US supported them under the leadership of bin laden in afghanistan to fight the Russians.however,the west should stop fooling us there is something called "war on terror".there is no war on terror if the west chooses where to support terrorists and consider them "demmocracy fighters" and where to call them terrorists.in fact this goes to show that the very western countries are terrorists or sponsors of terror,based on afghanistan and syria if we are to be fair.obviously the western countries are leading a war for interests.where it suits them,they can ally themselves with the vilest creatures to accomplish their goals.

I will conclude by applauding once more the insighful remarks of Sheikh Gumi.Nigeria have no business fighting a war alongside france.its either france does it alone or ecowas does it alone.Nigeria cannot afford to be seen as a western puppet doing the dirty bidding of the west.from what I recently read,there is crude oil in northern Mali.it goes to show why France is taking interest in Mali of all countries.it is also a possibility that the west had supported the salafist/wahhabi fighters to take control in northern Mali,to later turn and use them as justification under the so called "war on terror" to invade Mali.Nigeria should know that the western countries can NEVER be trusted.they don't have the fear of God at all.they misbehave anytime and against anyone for their interests.he who takes the lion for a ride will end up in the lions stomach!

BetaThings: ^^^^
Even from the video of Amar Nakhswani that Devotedone posted, it is clear that he does not agree with you on the issue of adhan
It is a latter-day innovation. Watch the video
best of luck with your "explain everything away" methodology

it depends on what you mean by "innovation".if you mean the islamic terminology known as "bid'ah" then you're wrong and that is not what Sayyid Ammar Nakhshawani meant.

the adding of "Aliyyan Amirul-Mu'mineen Waliullah"(Ali is the commander of the faithful and wali/friend of/leader by Allah) in the adhan was introduced later on due to circumstances,like in the days of Muawiya when the cursing of Imam Ali (as) was forced into the pulpits of mosques across muslim lands.the clause in the adhan is something new,but definitely not everything new is bid'ah.also,the clause is a testimony in Islam like many others are.for something to be termed bid'ah (innovation) in Islam,it must first be haram (forbidden).that is the Shia understanding.now you can say the clause in the adhan is new,but definitely not bid'ah.it is mustahab (preferred) if it is added,just as you can also testify to belief in Qiyama (resurrection) among others.

when it comes to the Sunni adhan,first it was shortened.that is a change of the adhan.Umar replaced/removed "hayya ala khayril amal" (come to the best of deeds);and in the fajr adhan "assalatu khayrun minnan-nawm" was introduced.on what grounds in Islam can these changes (addition and subtraction) in the Sunni adhan be justified? therefore,there goes the bid'ah.

BetaThings:

I will never accept it as the TRUTH. You think it is, But you are wrong!
Ali ibn Talib (RA), may his grave be widened beyond imagination, rests peacefully in his grave
Saying "Ya Ali, Ya Amirul Mumineen, your slaves are suffering, come to our aid" is shirk. This belief is UNSHAKEABLE



Your statements drip of schism all the time. It is so amazing!
Avoid suspicion. investigate issues

Scholars have been rebutting Ariifi for a while on a number of issues
he is typically seen as a teller of stories to make people laugh. Women in particular as susceptible to his methodology

But while you think sunnis are unable to see things clear they have rebutted Ariifi
You have claimed in the past that there are differences of opinion amongst sunnis
So why should I call you up on every issue I disagree with. You have never asked me my opinion on Ariifi
So why should you think the "distancing" is recent

But the Shias are always united even when the opinion is wrong

I prefer the blindness of Sunni Arabs to the clear vision of Persian Shias
Why? The sunnis have an internal mechanism for correcting themsleves but Shias just dig in


Shias say Ya Ali madad
Nobody says Ya Ka'ba Madad
But Christians are truly misguided. They say In Jesus name




If I can say
Iyyaka na`budu wa 'iyyaka nasta`in
Ihdina-s-sirata-l-mustaqima

I have the right to call on Ar'Rahman and Ar'Raheem and ask him
If I want tawasul. I go to somebody who is ALIVE and who I believe fears Allah and tell him, please make dua for me
I expect him to
begin in the name of Allah, seek refuge with Allah from the accursed Shaytan, praise Allah, seek blessings on the Prophet (PBUH), seeks forgiveness for the sins of both of us and all Muslims and then tell Allah, "your servant wants this and that, please give it to him" etc

i cannot go over the same issue over and over again.go back pages in this thread and read what we discussed to refresh your mind.you can also find older threads on this topic.you have made up your mind and made your choice,good for you.but if you accuse me of shirk to my face,i am very sure you wont find it funny,and i am very sure you wont have the guts to do so,not out of fear,but out of lack of confidence on what you're falsely accusing others of.no one says "Ya Ka'ba Madad" because the Ka'ba is not a living being;but no Muslim can go to Hajj and complete his pilgrimage if the black stone is not kissed.kissing the black stone is an essential part of hajj and is not shirk,but kissing the grave of the Prophet (s) or Imam Ali (as) is shirk (idolatry/polytheism) according to wahhabis/salafists.i dont know how that logically works.greeting the Prophet (s) in prayers while the Prophet (s) is buried thousands of miles away and is physically dead is not "shirk" to wahhabis/salafists,but the Shia or anyone (even among Sunnis) who say Ya Ali or even Ya Muhammad is "shirk" to wahhabis/salafists.again,i dont know how that logical works.it seems they sometimes do things as religious practice for FUN and as past time! Tawassul (intercession) is not shirk and in Islam the righteous and chosen dead can perceive and are not spiritually dead.worship is only for Allah.but you have no right to impose on others and define what they do and their intention,to be worship or not.allow others to express what they believe without wahhabism/salafism trying to oppress the freedom of belief of others,by forcing tags on others that others do not accept.

i just want to correct the perception that Sunnis are arabs and Shia are persians.that is not true.Persian Iran was a "Sunni country" up to the 16th century.Egypt was Shia,and Salahedding bloodily converted the egyptians into Sunnism.the arabs in Iraq and Bahrain and Lebanon are mostly Shia.in Saudi Arabia,kuwait and the UAE,there is a sizeable Shia population in spite of oppression.in Yemen,the arab population is almost close divided between Shia and Sunnis.in the holy city of Medina (Saudi Arabia) alone,there is an estimated 100,000 Shia Muslims who form the historical and indigenous population of the holy city,and they are known as NAKHAWILAH.

BetaThings: And Sunnis have excused him like you excuse the Shias who glorify making dua to the dead?
Significant difference.

we do not accept making dua to the dead.we do tawassul.it is your interpretation that we make dua to the dead.you keep repeating the same thing over again.we have gone through that earlier.why repeat the same thing? you're possibly lost and confused,seeing the truth but refusing to accept.so you repeat the lie to make it sound truth,and to feel better.this is oppression when you attribute something to another person,which that person rejects.the christians would accuse you too of worshipping the Ka'ba.and so what?

We publicly distance ourselves from those who step out of line

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good.i brought up arifi's case and his insulting remark on alcohol and the Prophet (s) to show you have Sunnis especially the wahhabis/salafists among them ae unable to see things clear.they made a video on a remark by Ayatollah Haidary,by taking a term out of context-even though in my opinion the Ayatollah could have used a better word to convey his idea;nonetheless a little though could clarify what Ayatollah Haidary meant.but here we have Arifi making a statement that insults the person of the Prophet (s) and we heard nothing.you are just now "distancing yourself" from him.in fact the thread i started on him and his alcohol statement is no longer to be found.it most likely was taken down by Maclatunji by the possible instigation of "Arifi junior",tbaba.it is unfortunate when africans accept blindness of Sunni arabs under the impression of "Islam".it is time we think independently.if Shia Islam can make us think and appreciate the gift of the intellect,then we must accept it.

But when we point out that a Shia declare that
1. The world was created because of the Prophet (PBUH)
2. The Prophet (PBUH) was created because of Ali (RA)
3. Both of them (the Prophet (PBUH) and Ali (RA) were created because of Fatima (RA)
4. When an Imam declares kun faya kun (Be!), it will be which is the exclusive right of Allah

already replied to these.

I don't see Shias disputing those claims. They come rapidly in support

we explain things and our beliefs in line with logic,reasoning and Islamic texts.if you are good enough to see the truth,thank God.if not,then you are on your own.

what is for instancethe difference between you acccusing us falsely and maliciously of "worshipping the dead" and christians accusing muslims of worshipping the Ka'ba or the black stone? in the latter,you are forced to think.but in the former you refuse any attempt to make you think.you have made your choice.so we can do nothing.you are a free moral agent.

Insulting the Prophet (PBUH) should not be condoned at all by an Muslim. May Allah save us from fitna
But what is worse is to assert that a human being has the power such that his declarations will come to pass or that he can answer dua. But this one is acceptable to Shias

by the permission of Allah (jj),it is possible.Allah is the "giver of life".yet the Quran says Jesus (as) gave life to the death.so is Jesus (as) "god"? no,he is not even though christians do cite that as a reason or rather excuse why they believe Jesus (as) is "god" or a supernatural being.however,the Quran makes it clear that he gave life by God's permission.

Watch the video earlier posted.Arifi is recorded on camera with sound and picture uttering the insult that the Prophet (s) "might have sold alcohol".it is recorded on camera,and not a mere written statement Arifi or websites could retract,as was the case with his purported statements on Syrian women.your "guided" sheikh is insulting the Prophet (s).watch the video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoGjqkUMz0

@BetaThing
One thing your debate will always lack is maturity and the same with the video you came to post.in fact it is ridiculous and comic how they designed the video in the process to mislead.let us for argument sake say that we should understand Ayatollah Haidary's statement in a literal manner.at most you can say he used the wrong word to convey a valid idea that it was "the fear" that some companions would distort the Quran that made the name of Imam Ali (as) not to appear.in order to ensure uniformity,use those companions as a test for the ummah and have their punishment postponed (just like Iblis),the name didn't appear.if you decide to interpret that expression of "fear" literally,you are on your own.as for every Shia including the great Ayatollah Haidary (the slayer of wahhabism),we believe Allah is afraid literally of no one and to Him belong all powers.

The fact remain that Imam Ali (as) is made reference to in the Quran.according to a Sunni source no sahaba had as many verses revealed in relation to/honor of him than Imam Ali (as).and if you want to take verse 19:50 literal,the name ALIYA is there in the Quran.don't talk about Adhan because it is a completely different topic on its own.the Sunni adhan is incomplete and also contains a Bid'ah,as words are removed and replaced with what wasn't there by Umar.it is of honor to testify to the wilayah (divinely appointed leadership/imamate of Imam Ali),as it is an essential block in the completion and perfection of Islam and the revelation of the verse of perfection (5:3).

"Tradition and Heresy in Adhan (Call to Prayer) "
http://www.al-islam.org/shiism_in_sunnism/6.htm

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BetaThings:

It does not matter to me if Umar (RA) was so terrifying to shaytan or not. That is not the issue.
What matters is what an Ayatollah believes about the powers of Allah

this has nothing to do with the powers of Allah (jj).

watching such videos is very ridiculous and blasphemous because the creator of the video is the one interpreting and putting his satanic imaginations into someone's mouth.and you wholeheartedly dwell in their ignorance and rejoice.its an insult to human intelligence.

the designer of the video clip brought two separate lectures and then concluded that satan must be "braver" than Allah (astaghfirullah) because satan is not afraid of Umar according to Ayatollah al-Haidary but Allah was "afraid" of Umar.these are the words of the creator of the video.he is the one falsely accusing (by his conclusion)someone else of the saying that satan is "braver" than Allah (jj)-astaghfirullah!!! this clearly shows that Sunni mockery and blindness stems from ignorance,and in this particular case ignorance of the arabic language.

the correct English word for "khawf" (as obviously spelled out by Ayatollah Haidary) is "weary" (in the verb form).we see this example where Allah (jj) is described as being in a state of "Khushoo" or "Yakh-sha" in the Holy Quran (al-Fatir 28).this goes to show that whoever designed that video that BetaThing is rejoicing over and Vedaxcool is thanking him for and describing as "truth",are playing on the ignorance of audience like BetaThing and Vedaxcool.clearly blindness and misguidance is built on ignorance.worse,these are false claims and outright lies.for instance,in the video,for the fact that Imam Ali's (as) name is not mentioned,the designer of the video jumps to state that the doctrine of imamate is not found in the Quran!!! imamate is there in the Quran and also Imam Ali's (as) imamate is there and many verses about Imam Ali (as) are there in the Quran.the only thing is that the name is not mentioned but reference is made to him.

here is the Quran verse where the word "Yakh-Sha" in reference to Allah (jj) is made:

"YAKH-SHA ALLAHU MIN IBADIHI AL-ULAMA" (AL- Fatir 28)

can we say that based on the above verse in Surat al-Fatir Verse 28,Allah (jj) is "scared" or "afraid"? ofcourse not! and non-muslims have tried to misinterpret that verse to lie,just as Ayatollah Haidary's statement is been taken out of context.

and furthermore the word "fear" in arabic have many meanings,"khawf" in this case not morbid, or literal all and does not negate Allah's superiority.definitely Ayatollah Haidary never meant that Allah (jj) was scared of Umar or could not deal with him.he simply conveyed the idea that the wisdom behind Allah (jj) not stating Imam Ali's (as) name in the Quran is because of His fore-knowledge that people like Umar would either eject or distort the Quran.ofcourse for those who say that Allah (jj) would preserve His book,yes He will.but that could still result in the presence of two Qurans-one for the Shia (the preserved one) and one for the Sunnis (the distorted one).to ensure the uniformity of the Quran,it was Allah's wisdom in how the Quran was revealed that played.

yet still,we see the wisdom of Allah (jj) and the uniqueness of the language of the Quran as the word "Aliyyan" which is (a tense) used in reference of Imam Ali (as) does appear in the Quran without much notice and very much translated in disregard to the idea that ALIYA does stand as a noun (nevertheless the word "ALIYA" is also a noun) :

"WA WAHABNA LAHOM MIR-RAHMATINA WA JA'ALNA LAHOM LISANA SEDQEN ALIYA". (19:50)

hahahaha
You have forgotten, you have forgotten! I don't have a brain!!!

thanks for the reminder.

Need to watch Ayatollah Hydari? Give him a chance? Really. I might as well send my brain to a church!
Oh I have forgotten, you have said I don't have a brain. Sorry then, nothing for Ayatollah Hydari to work on!

you are now exposed and found to really not have a brain.you are easily misled.why couldn't rationalizing such a simple trick? oh,yeah you dont understand arabic.too bad you depend on others to think for you!

It is always wonderful talking to you guy - rare privilege to be so enriched by your clarifications and distortions
Hydari afraid? No. How? I have never seen a fearful Shia before
According to Hydari, it Was ALLAH who was afraid. (Aoothu bi Llah)
And that is the problem. A human being (Haidary or Umar) being afraid is really nothing
But Allah being afraid is a very biiiiiiig deal!
Massive difference. Only the Shias can contemplate that

Seriously, some of the things you guys say on tape cannot be posted because the enemies of Islam will pounce

this your post should go down as the all time **** up on nairaland! really ridiculous how someone from your sect who designed a video to defame by putting words into Ayatollah Haidary's mouth (and you believe that Ayatollah Haidary said Allah is "afraid" ) turned out to be a liar who is misrepresenting facts and misunderstanding arabic.

i know the expose on Ibn Taymiyyah drove you wild.so you wanted to fire back against Ayatollah Haidary.my advice to you: try harder because the Shia and their scholars are definitely not what you think of.you remind me of non-muslims who misunderstand the Quran by distorting it themselves,and then want to argue based on their own misunderstanding.you are proven to be someone who can easily be misled.now you have a choice between acquiring knowledge like a good student does or learning comedy and continuing in misguidance.its your choice.

@paris-love
There is no explicit verse in the Quran specifying punishment for rape for two reasons:

1. Any illicit sex in Islam can be punished with up to death.so raping a woman can also take the death penalty as the action falls under illicit sex.

2. Islam does not recognize the mockery of wedlock designated in the west as "marital rape".in Islam,the couple should have sex.it is the man's right to be given sexual pleasure by his wife.otherwise,the man can commit adultery.for the good of the marriage and of society,good wives don't use sex as a weapon against their husbands for every misunderstanding.if the man comes to the level of reaching out to his wife in bed after misunderstanding,that should be seen as reconciliatory gesture,and the couple should make up.if the man is very evil for the woman to justify and use sex as a weapon,then she have no reason to share the same bed with him.she should leave.

BetaThings: From the stable of Hydari
He likes to bring books to "prove" the authenticity of his claims

The summary of Hydari's position

Hydari faults this assertion that Shaytan is afraid of Umar (RA)
But Hydari believes that Allah (SWT) is afraid that companions like Umar (RA) will distort the Quran

So we ask: Allah who has said he is the best of planners cannot thwart the efforts/plots of human beings?
Liars can do and say anything
May Allah save us from them


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f97JxI7xxLE

Remove the plank from your eye before you can claim to spot the sawdust in your brother's eye.I can see that this thread is still causing unease.learn to learn first and you can argue later,before you close your heart.

The assertion that shaitan is afraid of umar is utterly ridiculous.this assertion was designed in this way to counter the evidence cited by Shia against umar,that would portray him as "satan incarnate". Shaitan in Sunni texts is not afraid of the Prophet (s) as Sunnis claim instances the Prophet (s) made mistakes,committed "minor sins" and was forgetful.but they claim it was umar shaitan was afraid of.so who deserve to be "prophet of God" for Sunnis,Muhammad (s) or Umar ?

Before you talk nonsense that Ayatollah Haidary is "afraid" that Umar would distort the Quran,something Allah (jj) promised to preserve,I should tell you that centuries before Ayatollah Haidary was born,it was Usthman (the third Sunni caliph and successor to Umar) that was afraid the Quran would fall into distortion;he destroyed copies of the Quran and made other copies he sent to different parts of muslim lands.didn't Usthman know Allah (jj) promised to preserve His book? You talk nonsense out of no point at all.worse,when you lock your brain,the points you raise come back to punch you hard in the face.please go and learn.I'm really sorry for talking this harsh to you.but it is very annoying when you don't talk in a collective way,and you only cherry-pick as you like,and you even use points that well grounded in Sunni texts to turn them around and confront the Shia with them.

I'm happy you are coming to see the videos on youtube of Ayatollah Kamal al-Haidary.you need to watch them.give him a chance and see how a Muslim can think freely yet in accordance with Islam.those clips you run,whose authors imagine they can "refute" al-Haidary,will only lead you into further mental blockage.

I'm looking forward to your reply,where you will leave aside the main points you raised on Umar and the Quran,and you will divert to show how it is me who "cherry-pick" and who has a mental blockage.then you will bring more redherrings not related to this thread to go into an endless circle of irrelevant arguments and counter-arguments.that is the trademark of honorable,BateThings!

Iraq bombings claim 25 lives, injure scores

A string of bomb attacks in Iraq have left at least 25 people dead and countless others wounded on the third consecutive day of deadly violence in the country.

Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:31PM

LAST UPDATE

The bombings which occurred on Thursday mostly targeted Shia Muslims.

The worst attacks took place near Dujail, north of Baghdad, where twin car bombs killed 11 pilgrims and injured more than 60 others.

Earlier in the day, a car bomb targeted a bus carrying foreign pilgrims near the holy city of Karbala, which lies some 100 kilometers southwest of the capital and hosts the holy shrine of the third Shia Imam, Hussein (PBUH).

Four people were killed in the incident and many others wounded. One person died later when two more blasts shook the city.

Elsewhere, seven people, among them several Shias, were killed in bomb explosion in the town of Qassim, some 125 kilometers south of Baghdad.

A separate roadside bomb in Baghdad’s northeast also claimed the lives of two passengers of a vehicle and injured two more.

Thursday's bloodshed came one day after a wave of terrorist attacks killed dozens of people across Iraq, in the country's deadliest day in more than a month.

MRS/HGH/IS

http://presstv.com/detail/2013/01/17/284130/iraq-bombings-claim-25-lives-injure-scores/

Joining the journey

After a troubled youth, Malcolm Shabazz seeks to follow in the footsteps of his grandfather, Malcolm X


Malcolm Shabazz, the eldest grandson of Malcolm X, recently went to Mecca for the hajj

Malcolm X once said "Tomorrow is for those who prepare for it today." And today, Malcolm Shabazz, the eldest grandson of Malcolm X, says he is trying to carry on the storied legacy of the radical advocate for African American civil rights and leading voice for the Nation of Islam.

Shabazz, 26, was recently in San Francisco discussing that legacy, as well as his own spiritual and personal journeys, which included making the pilgrimage to Mecca for the hajj in November, a requirement for Muslims that his grandfather also undertook in 1964, the year before he was assassinated.

It was the latest chapter in a long and complicated story. At the age of 12, Shabazz started a fire in his Yonkers home that left his grandmother (Malcolm X's wife, Betty) with burns over 80 percent of her body, which led to her death a few days later. Shabazz has spent more of his adolescence and adulthood in prisons and other institutions than in the real world.

After serving four years in juvenile correctional facilities for arson and manslaughter charges for the fire, Shabazz pleaded guilty to attempted robbery in 2002. He served three and a half years in prison for that crime and then went back to prison months after his release for punching a hole in a store window.

Although he is often portrayed in media accounts as disturbed, Shabazz seemed calm and reflective during a two-hour interview with the Guardian. A soft-spoken man with few but well-chosen words, Shabazz is not unafraid to speak his mind about the state of the country and his grandfather's legacy.

"If you want to know anything, then go back to the source," he told us, which is what we did, reviewing his long, twisted journey to Mecca.

As the oldest male heir to Malcolm X, Shabazz was born into a fascinating family. Media accounts have documented him as a troubled young man, shuttled back and forth among family members. Like his grandfather, he spent time on the streets and in jail. Like his grandfather, it was behind bars that he finally regained his faith and found himself fully immersed in Islam. Shabazz explains that while he was born into Islam, he finally began to fee its presence in his life during his most recent incarceration period. While quarantined in Attica Correctional Facility in New York, Shabazz explained that he "didn't have any hygiene supplies, I didn't have any reading materials."

But it was during his time in Attica that he met another prisoner — half Mexican, half Iranian — who identified himself as a Shia Muslim. "He asked me 'Are you in a lie? Or are you a real Muslim?' " Shabazz recalled. He answered that he was a real Muslim. "He gave me reading materials to read in my cell."

According to Shabazz, this was the man who discussed and poured over religious texts with him during their time together, and the one who inspired him to convert from the Sunni sect to Shia.

"I was raised a Sunni, everyone in my family was Sunni," he said. There is much antagonism between the two sects, so his conversion caused a backlash akin to when his grandfather left the Nation of Islam in 1964 and declared himself a Sunni, which let to his assassination the following year.

When word spread of Shabazz's conversion, various Sunni leaders and community members expressed their discomfort with what he had done. He explained that many people wrote to him asking him, "How could you become a Shia?"

After his release, Shabazz decided to move to Syria to study at an Islamic institute and then spent the following eight months teaching English to children. "I came home from prison [and] I wanted to get away for a little while," he explained.

After arriving back from Syria in April, Shabazz went to Miami and worked on his memoirs, which he said are due to come out this May. The book discusses Shabazz's life and tribulations, noting that "there are misconceptions that I would like to clear up."

Once he returned to the United States, Shabazz decided to follow his grandfather's footsteps and make the pilgrimage to Mecca, where, he said "the air felt different." But he also explained how the people he saw on the pilgrimage seemed less willing to impose their rules on Americans.

"It seems like they have more fear [of] Americans than they do for Allah," he said. "If they know you're American, I don't know what it is, but they leave you alone."

Shabazz said he had the experience of a lifetime and proved his intense vigor for the Islamic faith. He circled the Kaa'ba, and despite swollen feet and a bad case of the flu, carried on his pilgrimage like a true believer. "I never saw this many people at one place at one time. It was much more of a struggle than I had anticipated," he said. "But everything was earned."

Decades before, his grandfather Malcolm X made his mark on American culture, taking a radical approach to demanding equal rights. When asked if his grandfather would admire President Barack Obama if he were alive today, Shabazz replied, "Definitely not. To me, Obama is no different than [George W.] Bush."

He said that democracy in this country is a sham, an illusion effectively perpetuated by the ruling elite. "The U.S. is a land of smoke and mirrors, and they're the best at doing what they do," he said. "My grandfather? Hah. He wouldn't have supported any of those dudes."

Although Shabazz doesn't particularly admire Obama so far, he does hope that the election of the first African-American president will "boost the esteem of the young black youth." And he said that the messages of Malcolm X are more important today than ever.

"My grandfather once stated that there are only two types of power that are respected within the United States of America — economic power and political power — and he went on to explain how social power derives from these two. Unfortunately, the majority of the people [today] are economically illiterate and politically naive. They believe most of what they see on television and read in the papers. I say believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."

For his own personal politics, Shabazz said change begins with education and unity. "[Education] could be done through music, spoken word poetry, art, preaching from the pulpit, or putting in physical work right in the trenches," Shabazz said.

In terms of unity, he cited the European Union, explaining that it is an organization "where nations that don't necessarily like each other [but] have at least enough common sense to come together for a cause, to achieve a common goal, or to stand up against a common enemy. When it's time to put niggers in check, they know how to come together."

Almost 10 years after the 9/11 attacks, Shabazz sees growing potential for Islam to exert an influence in the U.S. "After 9/11, a lot of people did not know too much [about Islam]. But they started to investigate and learn more."

Although many people's first reaction was to turn away from the religion of jihad, Shabazz feels that many people also felt the need to educate themselves on the matter — and found that there is much more to Islam than the mainstream media portrays. And for a young man who has already led a turbulent life, Shabazz is seeking something basic from his newfound faith: "I want a peace of mind."

http://www.sfbg.com/2011/01/04/joining-journey

Paschal007:
Shout out to my Shia pim'ps

MUTAH MARRIAGE IN THE BIBLE:

http://mutah.com/mutahinbible.htm

Sunnis,or the rich Saudi Wahhabis among them,abusing the system of mutah marriage which has conditions and regulation,does not make the system itself bad.it is the people abusing the system who should be condemned and not the system itself.

more on mutah marriage:

www.mutah.com

how many times would we have to tell islamophobes that salafists/wahhabis do not represent Islam?

Salafist Militants Destroying Islam's History In Africa
https://www.nairaland.com/981172/salafist-militants-destroying-islams-history

Martyrdom of the Unborn Child, Mohsin ibn Imam Ali(a.s.)

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Who is Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.)? ( QURANIC AND HISTORICAL EVIDENCES)

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) is the third son of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) after Hasan (a.s.) and Husain (a.s.). He is also referred to as Mushabbar which is also the name of Prophet Haroon Ibn Imran’s (a.s.) third son. He was no more than six months fetus at the time of the attack. (Al-Hidaayat al-Kubra, p. 407, Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 p. 19)
Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was the least involved in the business of politics and machinations which the attack on Fatimah’s (a.s.) was all about. He was not concerned with anything that transpired on that day and no one who had any grouse with Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) had an argument against Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.). Even those who debate about the infallibility of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) fall silent when the infallibility of an unborn child is raised because they have no answer.
Therefore, although the entire attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house was illegitimate, the attack on Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in many ways was the most illegitimate part of the attack.

Just like this vicious attack laid the foundation of another murderous attack 50 years later in Karbala, it is perhaps Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom to safeguard the infallibility of his parents (a.s.) that inspired his nephew Ali Ibn Husain (al-Asghar) to wage a battle against the enemies in Karbala to safeguard the infallibility of his father Imam Husain Ibn Ali (a.s.). Imam Husain (a.s.), of course, is unique among the oppressed ones as he is the only one present on the scenes of both the attacks – one on his parents and brother and the second on his children, nephews and another brother.
It is perhaps the powerful influence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom that has led some Muslims to deny his death in the attack, attributing it to other causes. This is clearly a campaign based on misinformation or lack of information that is similar to the campaign to deny the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house altogether. The attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house has no justification whatsoever and therefore the only way out is to deny it altogether.
Of course, the biggest blow to the deniers is the martyrdom of Fatimah (s.a.) and Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in the aftermath of the attack. It is widely documented that both (a.s.) were martyred as a result of the attack; Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) instantly and Fatimah (s.a.) a few days later.


Documentary evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

There are several well-documented narrations to establish Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom from the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. Those interested in seeking the truth of the matter should not be surprised to find scores of scholars and historians from across eras and predispositions (Shia and Sunni) record the martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in a manner that puts the issue beyond doubt.

A) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in the Holy Quran

Since the first place to look for evidence of a belief or concept is in the Noble Quran, we must turn to this divine book for evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom. And evidence of this event appears in the 8th and 9th verses of Surah Takweer (81):
‘And when the female infant buried alive is asked, for what sin she was killed.’
Mufazzal Ibn Umar, the respected companion and special deputy of Imam Sadiq asked Imam – What is your opinion about these verses?
Imam (a.s.) informed: “O Mufazzal, by Allah, ‘Maudato’ (i.e. infant) in this verse means Mohsin and surely he is from us and not others. Those who claim otherwise are lying.
Then Imam (a.s.) elaborated (on the events on the Day of Resurrection) – Fatimah, the daughter of the Allah’s Messenger will supplicate – O Allah fulfill Your Promise and Your Pledge with me with regards to those who oppressed me, usurped my rights, struck me and distressed me with regards to all my children.
On hearing this, all the angels inhabiting the seven heavens, the carriers of the Throne and all those residing in space and the inhabitants of the earth and under the layers of the earth will lament and wail in front of Allah. Then, none will remain from those who oppressed us and killed us and those who were pleased at our oppression except that he will be killed.”
(Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 pp. 23-24)

Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in Supplications

Apart from the Holy Quran, supplications of the infallible guides (a.s.) are reliable sources of beliefs and concepts. The martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) finds mention even in supplications. In the renowned Supplication of Sanamay-e-Quraish, we implore Allah to curse the oppressors (of Ahle Bait a.s.) for every fetus that they have destroyed.
(Misbaah al-Mutahajjiid by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (r.a.) p. 731)
Over here, the reference to the oppressors who attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house resulting in Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom is obvious.

C) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom from Sunnah and History

1. Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (r.a.) records in Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 on the authority of Abu Baseer who relates from Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s.), ‘Fatimah’s (s.a.) death resulted from being pierced by the sword which claimed (the unborn) Mohsin’s life. The perpetrator of this crime was Qunfuz, who was acting on his master Umar’s explicit command…’
2. Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani in vol. 3 p. 132 records from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (reputed Sunni historian) – “The following were Fatimah’s children – Hasan, Husain, Zainab, Umme Kulsum and Mohsin Ibn Ali who was killed by Qunfuz Adawi (i.e. from Bani Adi, the same tribe as Umar Ibn Khattaab).”
3. Masoodi records in Isbaat al-Wilaayah p. 142 – “They attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. They crushed the Chief of All Women behind the door so violently that it resulted in the miscarriage of Mohsin.”
4. Muhammad al-Shahrastaani reports in Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) – “Umar struck Fatimah violently in the abdomen (on the Day of Allegiance) so much so that she fell on her abdomen (resulting in the infant’s death).”
5. Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi records in Mizaan al-Etedaal vol. 1 p. 139 – “Undoubtedly Umar kicked Fatimah so much so that it led to Mohsin’s miscarriage.”
6. Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi in Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 records – “The Motazelah sect is of the view that on the Day of Allegiance Umar undoubtedly struck Fatimah so much so that Mohsin was killed.”
7. Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi in Al-Farq bain al-Faraaq p. 107 records on the same lines as above.
8. Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee in Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 records on the authority of Ibne Abbas who heard the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) prophesize – ‘…it is as if I see grief and anxiety entering my daughter’s house, her respect being violated, her rights being usurped, her inheritance being denied to her, her unborn being miscarried and (in this moment of distress) she will call out – O Muhammad, but no one replies to her pleas.’

Bibliography of References Documenting Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) martyrdom has been recorded by the following scholars/historians:
I) Sunni Sources
1. Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) by Muhammad al-Shahrastaani exp. 548 AH
2. Mizaan al-E’tedaal vol. 1 p. 139 by Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi exp. 748 AH
3. Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 by Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi exp. 746 AH
4. Al-Farq bain al-Feraq p. 107 by Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi exp. 429 AH
5. Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee exp. 732 AH
6. Sharhe Nahjul Balagha vol. 4 p. 192 (Beirut Edition) by Ibne Abil Hadeed Motazali exp. 656 AH
7. Kitaabo Dalaael al-Imamah by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Jurair al-Tabari exp. 310 AH
II) Shia Sources
1. Al-Manaaqeb by Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani (exp. 583 AH) vol. 3 p. 132 from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (Ahle Sunnah)
2. Isbaat al-Wilaayah by Masoodi (exp. 346 AH) p. 142
3. Al-Amaali by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH) p. 99
4. Bashaarah al-Mustafa le Shiah al-Murtaza p. 197 by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Abu al-Qaasim al-Tabari (sixth century scholar)
5. Iqbaal al-A’maal p. 625 by Sayyed Ibn Taawoos (exp. 664 AH)
6. Irshaad al-Quloob p. 295 by Abu Muhammad al-Hasan Ibn Abi al-Hasan Muhammad Dailami
7. Jalaa al-Uyoon vol. 1 p. 184 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
8. Misbaah al-Kaf’ami p. 522 by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (exp. 905 AH)
9. Al-Muhtazar p. 109 by Husain Ibn Sulayman al-Hilli, a student of al-Shaheed al-Awwal
10. Al-Kaamil p. 309 by Shaykh Bahaai (exp. 1031 AH)
11. Hadiqah al-Shia p. 265 by Ahmed Ibn Muhammad famous as Muqaddas-e-Ardebili (exp. 993 AH)
12. Ma’ani al-Akhbaar p. 205 by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH)
13. Ilme Yaqeen p. 686
14. Rawzah al-Muttaqeen vol. 5 p. 342
15. Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
16. Isbaat al-Hudaat vol. 2 p. 337 by Shaikh al-Hurr al-Aameli (exp. 1104 AH)

Conclusion
An unbiased view of the various references from the Majestic Quran, the Prophet’s Sunnah and history recorded by scholars and historians across eras and sects (viz. Sunni and Shia) should make it obvious to those seeking the truth that Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was martyred by the mob that attacked Fatimah’s (a.s.) house only a few days after the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) demise.
We give our condolences to the Imam of the time, hadhrat Hujjat (a.t.f.s.) on the martyrdom of Mohsin, the unborn child of the only daughter of the holy Prophet of Islam, the mercy to the mankind.

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Martyrdom of the Unborn Child, Mohsin ibn Imam Ali(a.s.)

1/14/2013 12:33:00 AM આવાઝે હક No comments

Who is Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.)? ( QURANIC AND HISTORICAL EVIDENCES)

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) is the third son of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) after Hasan (a.s.) and Husain (a.s.). He is also referred to as Mushabbar which is also the name of Prophet Haroon Ibn Imran’s (a.s.) third son. He was no more than six months fetus at the time of the attack. (Al-Hidaayat al-Kubra, p. 407, Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 p. 19)
Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was the least involved in the business of politics and machinations which the attack on Fatimah’s (a.s.) was all about. He was not concerned with anything that transpired on that day and no one who had any grouse with Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) had an argument against Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.). Even those who debate about the infallibility of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) fall silent when the infallibility of an unborn child is raised because they have no answer.
Therefore, although the entire attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house was illegitimate, the attack on Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in many ways was the most illegitimate part of the attack.

Just like this vicious attack laid the foundation of another murderous attack 50 years later in Karbala, it is perhaps Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom to safeguard the infallibility of his parents (a.s.) that inspired his nephew Ali Ibn Husain (al-Asghar) to wage a battle against the enemies in Karbala to safeguard the infallibility of his father Imam Husain Ibn Ali (a.s.). Imam Husain (a.s.), of course, is unique among the oppressed ones as he is the only one present on the scenes of both the attacks – one on his parents and brother and the second on his children, nephews and another brother.
It is perhaps the powerful influence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom that has led some Muslims to deny his death in the attack, attributing it to other causes. This is clearly a campaign based on misinformation or lack of information that is similar to the campaign to deny the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house altogether. The attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house has no justification whatsoever and therefore the only way out is to deny it altogether.
Of course, the biggest blow to the deniers is the martyrdom of Fatimah (s.a.) and Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in the aftermath of the attack. It is widely documented that both (a.s.) were martyred as a result of the attack; Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) instantly and Fatimah (s.a.) a few days later.


Documentary evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

There are several well-documented narrations to establish Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom from the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. Those interested in seeking the truth of the matter should not be surprised to find scores of scholars and historians from across eras and predispositions (Shia and Sunni) record the martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in a manner that puts the issue beyond doubt.

A) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in the Holy Quran

Since the first place to look for evidence of a belief or concept is in the Noble Quran, we must turn to this divine book for evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom. And evidence of this event appears in the 8th and 9th verses of Surah Takweer (81):
‘And when the female infant buried alive is asked, for what sin she was killed.’
Mufazzal Ibn Umar, the respected companion and special deputy of Imam Sadiq asked Imam – What is your opinion about these verses?
Imam (a.s.) informed: “O Mufazzal, by Allah, ‘Maudato’ (i.e. infant) in this verse means Mohsin and surely he is from us and not others. Those who claim otherwise are lying.
Then Imam (a.s.) elaborated (on the events on the Day of Resurrection) – Fatimah, the daughter of the Allah’s Messenger will supplicate – O Allah fulfill Your Promise and Your Pledge with me with regards to those who oppressed me, usurped my rights, struck me and distressed me with regards to all my children.
On hearing this, all the angels inhabiting the seven heavens, the carriers of the Throne and all those residing in space and the inhabitants of the earth and under the layers of the earth will lament and wail in front of Allah. Then, none will remain from those who oppressed us and killed us and those who were pleased at our oppression except that he will be killed.”
(Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 pp. 23-24)

Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in Supplications

Apart from the Holy Quran, supplications of the infallible guides (a.s.) are reliable sources of beliefs and concepts. The martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) finds mention even in supplications. In the renowned Supplication of Sanamay-e-Quraish, we implore Allah to curse the oppressors (of Ahle Bait a.s.) for every fetus that they have destroyed.
(Misbaah al-Mutahajjiid by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (r.a.) p. 731)
Over here, the reference to the oppressors who attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house resulting in Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom is obvious.

C) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom from Sunnah and History

1. Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (r.a.) records in Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 on the authority of Abu Baseer who relates from Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s.), ‘Fatimah’s (s.a.) death resulted from being pierced by the sword which claimed (the unborn) Mohsin’s life. The perpetrator of this crime was Qunfuz, who was acting on his master Umar’s explicit command…’
2. Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani in vol. 3 p. 132 records from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (reputed Sunni historian) – “The following were Fatimah’s children – Hasan, Husain, Zainab, Umme Kulsum and Mohsin Ibn Ali who was killed by Qunfuz Adawi (i.e. from Bani Adi, the same tribe as Umar Ibn Khattaab).”
3. Masoodi records in Isbaat al-Wilaayah p. 142 – “They attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. They crushed the Chief of All Women behind the door so violently that it resulted in the miscarriage of Mohsin.”
4. Muhammad al-Shahrastaani reports in Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) – “Umar struck Fatimah violently in the abdomen (on the Day of Allegiance) so much so that she fell on her abdomen (resulting in the infant’s death).”
5. Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi records in Mizaan al-Etedaal vol. 1 p. 139 – “Undoubtedly Umar kicked Fatimah so much so that it led to Mohsin’s miscarriage.”
6. Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi in Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 records – “The Motazelah sect is of the view that on the Day of Allegiance Umar undoubtedly struck Fatimah so much so that Mohsin was killed.”
7. Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi in Al-Farq bain al-Faraaq p. 107 records on the same lines as above.
8. Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee in Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 records on the authority of Ibne Abbas who heard the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) prophesize – ‘…it is as if I see grief and anxiety entering my daughter’s house, her respect being violated, her rights being usurped, her inheritance being denied to her, her unborn being miscarried and (in this moment of distress) she will call out – O Muhammad, but no one replies to her pleas.’

Bibliography of References Documenting Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) martyrdom has been recorded by the following scholars/historians:
I) Sunni Sources
1. Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) by Muhammad al-Shahrastaani exp. 548 AH
2. Mizaan al-E’tedaal vol. 1 p. 139 by Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi exp. 748 AH
3. Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 by Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi exp. 746 AH
4. Al-Farq bain al-Feraq p. 107 by Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi exp. 429 AH
5. Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee exp. 732 AH
6. Sharhe Nahjul Balagha vol. 4 p. 192 (Beirut Edition) by Ibne Abil Hadeed Motazali exp. 656 AH
7. Kitaabo Dalaael al-Imamah by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Jurair al-Tabari exp. 310 AH
II) Shia Sources
1. Al-Manaaqeb by Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani (exp. 583 AH) vol. 3 p. 132 from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (Ahle Sunnah)
2. Isbaat al-Wilaayah by Masoodi (exp. 346 AH) p. 142
3. Al-Amaali by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH) p. 99
4. Bashaarah al-Mustafa le Shiah al-Murtaza p. 197 by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Abu al-Qaasim al-Tabari (sixth century scholar)
5. Iqbaal al-A’maal p. 625 by Sayyed Ibn Taawoos (exp. 664 AH)
6. Irshaad al-Quloob p. 295 by Abu Muhammad al-Hasan Ibn Abi al-Hasan Muhammad Dailami
7. Jalaa al-Uyoon vol. 1 p. 184 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
8. Misbaah al-Kaf’ami p. 522 by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (exp. 905 AH)
9. Al-Muhtazar p. 109 by Husain Ibn Sulayman al-Hilli, a student of al-Shaheed al-Awwal
10. Al-Kaamil p. 309 by Shaykh Bahaai (exp. 1031 AH)
11. Hadiqah al-Shia p. 265 by Ahmed Ibn Muhammad famous as Muqaddas-e-Ardebili (exp. 993 AH)
12. Ma’ani al-Akhbaar p. 205 by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH)
13. Ilme Yaqeen p. 686
14. Rawzah al-Muttaqeen vol. 5 p. 342
15. Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
16. Isbaat al-Hudaat vol. 2 p. 337 by Shaikh al-Hurr al-Aameli (exp. 1104 AH)

Conclusion
An unbiased view of the various references from the Majestic Quran, the Prophet’s Sunnah and history recorded by scholars and historians across eras and sects (viz. Sunni and Shia) should make it obvious to those seeking the truth that Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was martyred by the mob that attacked Fatimah’s (a.s.) house only a few days after the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) demise.
We give our condolences to the Imam of the time, hadhrat Hujjat (a.t.f.s.) on the martyrdom of Mohsin, the unborn child of the only daughter of the holy Prophet of Islam, the mercy to the mankind.

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Martyrdom of the Unborn Child, Mohsin ibn Imam Ali(a.s.)

1/14/2013 12:33:00 AM આવાઝે હક No comments

Who is Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.)? ( QURANIC AND HISTORICAL EVIDENCES)

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) is the third son of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) after Hasan (a.s.) and Husain (a.s.). He is also referred to as Mushabbar which is also the name of Prophet Haroon Ibn Imran’s (a.s.) third son. He was no more than six months fetus at the time of the attack. (Al-Hidaayat al-Kubra, p. 407, Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 p. 19)
Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was the least involved in the business of politics and machinations which the attack on Fatimah’s (a.s.) was all about. He was not concerned with anything that transpired on that day and no one who had any grouse with Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) had an argument against Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.). Even those who debate about the infallibility of Ali (a.s.) and Fatimah (s.a.) fall silent when the infallibility of an unborn child is raised because they have no answer.
Therefore, although the entire attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house was illegitimate, the attack on Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in many ways was the most illegitimate part of the attack.

Just like this vicious attack laid the foundation of another murderous attack 50 years later in Karbala, it is perhaps Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom to safeguard the infallibility of his parents (a.s.) that inspired his nephew Ali Ibn Husain (al-Asghar) to wage a battle against the enemies in Karbala to safeguard the infallibility of his father Imam Husain Ibn Ali (a.s.). Imam Husain (a.s.), of course, is unique among the oppressed ones as he is the only one present on the scenes of both the attacks – one on his parents and brother and the second on his children, nephews and another brother.
It is perhaps the powerful influence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom that has led some Muslims to deny his death in the attack, attributing it to other causes. This is clearly a campaign based on misinformation or lack of information that is similar to the campaign to deny the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house altogether. The attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house has no justification whatsoever and therefore the only way out is to deny it altogether.
Of course, the biggest blow to the deniers is the martyrdom of Fatimah (s.a.) and Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in the aftermath of the attack. It is widely documented that both (a.s.) were martyred as a result of the attack; Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) instantly and Fatimah (s.a.) a few days later.


Documentary evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

There are several well-documented narrations to establish Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom from the attack on Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. Those interested in seeking the truth of the matter should not be surprised to find scores of scholars and historians from across eras and predispositions (Shia and Sunni) record the martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) in a manner that puts the issue beyond doubt.

A) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in the Holy Quran

Since the first place to look for evidence of a belief or concept is in the Noble Quran, we must turn to this divine book for evidence of Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom. And evidence of this event appears in the 8th and 9th verses of Surah Takweer (81):
‘And when the female infant buried alive is asked, for what sin she was killed.’
Mufazzal Ibn Umar, the respected companion and special deputy of Imam Sadiq asked Imam – What is your opinion about these verses?
Imam (a.s.) informed: “O Mufazzal, by Allah, ‘Maudato’ (i.e. infant) in this verse means Mohsin and surely he is from us and not others. Those who claim otherwise are lying.
Then Imam (a.s.) elaborated (on the events on the Day of Resurrection) – Fatimah, the daughter of the Allah’s Messenger will supplicate – O Allah fulfill Your Promise and Your Pledge with me with regards to those who oppressed me, usurped my rights, struck me and distressed me with regards to all my children.
On hearing this, all the angels inhabiting the seven heavens, the carriers of the Throne and all those residing in space and the inhabitants of the earth and under the layers of the earth will lament and wail in front of Allah. Then, none will remain from those who oppressed us and killed us and those who were pleased at our oppression except that he will be killed.”
(Behaar al-Anwaar, vol. 53 pp. 23-24)

Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom in Supplications

Apart from the Holy Quran, supplications of the infallible guides (a.s.) are reliable sources of beliefs and concepts. The martyrdom of Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) finds mention even in supplications. In the renowned Supplication of Sanamay-e-Quraish, we implore Allah to curse the oppressors (of Ahle Bait a.s.) for every fetus that they have destroyed.
(Misbaah al-Mutahajjiid by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (r.a.) p. 731)
Over here, the reference to the oppressors who attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house resulting in Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) martyrdom is obvious.

C) Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom from Sunnah and History

1. Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (r.a.) records in Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 on the authority of Abu Baseer who relates from Imam Jafar Sadiq (a.s.), ‘Fatimah’s (s.a.) death resulted from being pierced by the sword which claimed (the unborn) Mohsin’s life. The perpetrator of this crime was Qunfuz, who was acting on his master Umar’s explicit command…’
2. Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani in vol. 3 p. 132 records from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (reputed Sunni historian) – “The following were Fatimah’s children – Hasan, Husain, Zainab, Umme Kulsum and Mohsin Ibn Ali who was killed by Qunfuz Adawi (i.e. from Bani Adi, the same tribe as Umar Ibn Khattaab).”
3. Masoodi records in Isbaat al-Wilaayah p. 142 – “They attacked Fatimah’s (s.a.) house. They crushed the Chief of All Women behind the door so violently that it resulted in the miscarriage of Mohsin.”
4. Muhammad al-Shahrastaani reports in Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) – “Umar struck Fatimah violently in the abdomen (on the Day of Allegiance) so much so that she fell on her abdomen (resulting in the infant’s death).”
5. Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi records in Mizaan al-Etedaal vol. 1 p. 139 – “Undoubtedly Umar kicked Fatimah so much so that it led to Mohsin’s miscarriage.”
6. Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi in Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 records – “The Motazelah sect is of the view that on the Day of Allegiance Umar undoubtedly struck Fatimah so much so that Mohsin was killed.”
7. Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi in Al-Farq bain al-Faraaq p. 107 records on the same lines as above.
8. Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee in Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 records on the authority of Ibne Abbas who heard the Prophet (s.a.w.a.) prophesize – ‘…it is as if I see grief and anxiety entering my daughter’s house, her respect being violated, her rights being usurped, her inheritance being denied to her, her unborn being miscarried and (in this moment of distress) she will call out – O Muhammad, but no one replies to her pleas.’

Bibliography of References Documenting Mohsin Ibn Ali’s (a.s.) Martyrdom

Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) martyrdom has been recorded by the following scholars/historians:
I) Sunni Sources
1. Al-Milal wa al-Nehal vol. 1 p. 57 (Beirut Edition) by Muhammad al-Shahrastaani exp. 548 AH
2. Mizaan al-E’tedaal vol. 1 p. 139 by Abu Abdillah Shams al-Deen al-Zahabi exp. 748 AH
3. Al-Waafi be al-Wafiyyaat vol. 6 p. 17 by Allamah Khalil Ibn Aybak al-Safadi exp. 746 AH
4. Al-Farq bain al-Feraq p. 107 by Abdul Qadir al-Tamimi al-Baghdadi exp. 429 AH
5. Al-Faraaed al-Simtain vol. 2 p. 35 Sadr al-Deen Ibraheem Ibn Sa’d al-Deen Muhmmad al-Hammuee exp. 732 AH
6. Sharhe Nahjul Balagha vol. 4 p. 192 (Beirut Edition) by Ibne Abil Hadeed Motazali exp. 656 AH
7. Kitaabo Dalaael al-Imamah by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Jurair al-Tabari exp. 310 AH
II) Shia Sources
1. Al-Manaaqeb by Ibn Shahr Aashob al-Sarvi al-Mazandarani (exp. 583 AH) vol. 3 p. 132 from Al-Maarif of Ibne Qutaybah al-Dainoori (Ahle Sunnah)
2. Isbaat al-Wilaayah by Masoodi (exp. 346 AH) p. 142
3. Al-Amaali by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH) p. 99
4. Bashaarah al-Mustafa le Shiah al-Murtaza p. 197 by Abu Ja’far Muhammad Ibn Abu al-Qaasim al-Tabari (sixth century scholar)
5. Iqbaal al-A’maal p. 625 by Sayyed Ibn Taawoos (exp. 664 AH)
6. Irshaad al-Quloob p. 295 by Abu Muhammad al-Hasan Ibn Abi al-Hasan Muhammad Dailami
7. Jalaa al-Uyoon vol. 1 p. 184 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
8. Misbaah al-Kaf’ami p. 522 by Shaykh Taqi Al-Deen Ibraheem al-Kaf’ami (exp. 905 AH)
9. Al-Muhtazar p. 109 by Husain Ibn Sulayman al-Hilli, a student of al-Shaheed al-Awwal
10. Al-Kaamil p. 309 by Shaykh Bahaai (exp. 1031 AH)
11. Hadiqah al-Shia p. 265 by Ahmed Ibn Muhammad famous as Muqaddas-e-Ardebili (exp. 993 AH)
12. Ma’ani al-Akhbaar p. 205 by Shaykh al-Saduq (exp. 381 AH)
13. Ilme Yaqeen p. 686
14. Rawzah al-Muttaqeen vol. 5 p. 342
15. Behaar al-Anwaar vol. 43 p. 171 by Allamah Muhammad Baqer Majlisi (exp. 1111 AH)
16. Isbaat al-Hudaat vol. 2 p. 337 by Shaikh al-Hurr al-Aameli (exp. 1104 AH)

Conclusion
An unbiased view of the various references from the Majestic Quran, the Prophet’s Sunnah and history recorded by scholars and historians across eras and sects (viz. Sunni and Shia) should make it obvious to those seeking the truth that Mohsin Ibn Ali (a.s.) was martyred by the mob that attacked Fatimah’s (a.s.) house only a few days after the Prophet’s (s.a.w.a.) demise.
We give our condolences to the Imam of the time, hadhrat Hujjat (a.t.f.s.) on the martyrdom of Mohsin, the unborn child of the only daughter of the holy Prophet of Islam, the mercy to the mankind.

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