TheGoodJoe:


Wicked tackles was because the defenders then could not defend. Today, defending is on another level.

double post

Marjoribanks:

Like who? You just keep attacking JP for no just cause.

Ekong said Paserio gave them identity! I would rather align with the players than hearsay! Iwobi was not outstanding today.
He scored a beauty, yes but he lost a lot of balls in vital area and missed some glorious chances.
Iwobi left Everton cos he wants to play in midfield. Fulham used him there for few games but decided to push him to the wings.
No serious coach would play Iwobi on the wings for Nigeria.
JP created a formation that would allow our best players thrive and they did get to the final. A team people like you did not give a chance.

Give JP his derseve dues!

The 1994 team was outplayed by the Ivorians in the semis and Zambia in the finals yet that same team is called the best Nigerian National team ever.

yes he had like two opportunity he should have strick the boy better but name one attacker that has never miss goal scoring chance before, even the best of the best. His goal was superb, beauty.

komekn:


I like specifically established facts that are used to make substantive comparison deductions. I don't like emotive led assumptions anchored ⚓ on personal preferences and perceptions.

The EPL is the best league in the world, the most physically taxing, fast and competitive as well as the most expensive overall.

The Portuguese league is rated number 7 in Europe.

Just because honestly means what exactly ❓

I will give you a proviso , proposition, players core objective is to maximise income, in the shortest possible time. In addition the best players get the best money 🤑.

What are you implying that Fulham a mid table team in the EPL is not better than Porto or vice versa. ❓

Let's start from the back Pepe highest paid player in Porto will struggle to get into a Championship team, that's a fact.

Zaidu will not get into Fulham fact. Marko Liverpool and Cardiff city reject in the here and now will not smell Fulham midfield. Galano who scored a winger goal attributed more to poor goal keeping is not better than Wilson ,Willian and or B. De Cordova-Reid.

These are the specifics . Finally ,none of these Fulham players will go to this so called major historical European club because Porto cannot afford them.

Below a catalogue salary comparison, it's currently €1.20 to £1 . When you want to make comparison. Pepe the highest paid Porto player is on €48k a week which is approx £40k .

if we compare the salary structure of Chelsea and madrid or even Barca, I believe Chelsea you will agree with me that Chelsea players earn higher. So we should conclude that Chelsea is a better club to Madrid.

komekn:
There seems to be for quite a few euphoria and celebrations that Porto beat Arsenal 1-0.

And therefore Porto is now better than Arsenal is a highly quality team ,and so are all of there players on the level of Arsenal or even better.

It's not so simplistic. During the 2022 FA Cup Championship club at the time, Nottingham forest beat Arsenal 1-0 and whipped Leicester City 4-1 and finally succumbed to Liverpool in hard fought contest, loosing 1-0.

Did that immediately put Nottingham forest on par with Arsenal and Leicester City.

Or we could talk about Leicester city that got beat by Newport county (League 2) 2-1 in the FA Cup.

Did that automatically elevate the lower teams players to top quality, no at all. Newport county still remains in the 4th tier of English League football.

What makes top level quality quality is CONSISTENCY ,the ability to perform at high level continuously.

Back to Porto , there is a lot of talk about my past opinion. Which was that Zaidu would not get into Championship Fulham at the time. That opinion remains the same when I said and now currently.

Zaudi will not smell Fulham, incidentally the same left backs they had them in the Championship are still with them now Antony Robinson.

I went on further to say that very few of the Porto players will get into Championship Fulham at that time. I compared the players at that time Mitrovic striker, Tosin CB ,etc and concluded Fulham were better.

That opinion expressed over three years ago remains the largely same today.

You go explain tire

jihday:
Westham 0 vs Arsenal 5
Burnley 0 vs Arsenal 5
Porto 1 vs Arsenal 0. Arsenal used same set of players in the 3 games but our international scout said Porto players are championship level

The guy sabi CAP

lordofstrings:
Chai,
Each time I open YouTube see highlights of our game eeh, the speed I dey take scroll comot for there
Being a fan no easy ooh
Na today I gather mind post here😂

I've refuse to rewatch that final both highlight or the full match. I can't pick any magical moment from the the Nigeria game so why should I put myself in such emotional trauma watching Ivory coast coming at us from 1st minutes to 80 something minute. Even when we try to fight back it was very disjointed, no organisation just looping the ball, the crosses wasn't even the best.

Mujtahida:

Bro, this loss pained me. Not for myself I swear cos like many long standing fans of the SE, I have experienced many losses none more painful than Afcon 2000.

This loss pained me for the players. I wanted them to win something. To taste what it feels like to play football and win. It pained me for the country cos people really needed that joy.

Personality all I can say to the players is thank you, thank you very much. It was one hell of a good ride.

After voting Emilokan? No joy anywhere. But I really wanted the players to win for themselves but for this hardship in Nigeria nah. They're not the cause.

Dsimmer:
Mostob

In the the final against Cote d'Ivoire, aribo in just 4 minutes made 10 passes which is almost half of Iwobi's 23 passes in 78 minutes while Onyeka made 12 passes in 86 minutes. Imagine if Aribo was on the pitch for longer, he would have at least taken control of the midfield away from Cote d'Ivoire midfield who were having a blast. As I previously stated, Aribo was fantastic as a playmaking CM in the last afcon. With him and Onyedika who's a holding midfielder, Nigeria could control the match at least.

Aribo fan boy.

Dsimmer:


I doubt. Did you see Aribo in the last afcon tournament? He was fantastic! Funny it was same Iwobi who spoilt the last afcon as well.

In Aribo first start against Guinea Bissau in this afcon, Guinea Bissau could only feed on little scrap while Nigeria controlled much of the midfield till Aribo left. Only thing was he wasn't audacious by creating much like he was in the last afcon but it was expected since it was his first start in the tournament however he controlled that midfield. In fact, It was only after Aribo left the pitch that Guinea started to get sniff at Nigeria goalpost and even scored a goal which was cancelled. As I said , if a team could control the midfield, headless chicken running wouldn't be needed much.

which Aribo control which midfield against GB, oga go watch that match again. A game which fan was calling for the introduction of iwobi. Neither iwobi nor Aribo can control the midfield same with iheanacho, but with the 3, iwobi is better.

andrewbaba44:
Bullying him and he had to delete all his pictures

Nigerians are terrible people

Nigerians always want to look for a scapegoat, he's not the cause of the team losing the finals, neither was he the cause of the team playing the way they did, if Aribo was there in place of iwoji, it will still be the same result if not worse.

Goke7:


there were tired legs in that game yesterday one analyst I listened to on Saturday said most of our starting 11 have played far more minutes than the Ivorians who perhaps did more rotation than us. Those can be minor differences from what we saw yesterday. Players like Bassey, Ajayi, and Aina played through the entire duration of all our matches.

we some forumites talked about bringing in fresh legs even is it's in the dying minute, many cried that you want to change a winning team, the players in the bench can not withstand the heat blah blah blah

Goke7:


How can players who have played in massive stadiums in Europe be nervous, which kind talk be that. Players who have played in wembley, Bernabeu, nou camp, San Siro, what can be more overwhelming than such atmospheres, make Paseiro talk something else jor.

If he says Fatigue, I can understand

How many has played in Afcon finals before against the host. Playing in nou camp, bernabeu etc is a different thing already

Goke7:


Let's all be honest and this is no bashing any body, he should make his way out of the team, there is no use. After over 70 caps is this what we will continue to get haba. People can make excuses about the formation, but you need more from your experienced players in the team. We can't continue to spoon-feed Iwobi, if he's not willing anymore he should be excused. That Ghanaian analyst picked him out as our weakest link teams could exploit and it has happened as he said it. If Angola knew better dem for pepper us more than they did.

iwobi should make way because of the Bokoharam football aka tournament football Nigeria played, oga iwobi is not the problem of this team, get good CM and Dlp and push iwobi forward. If we drop iwobi na Aribo we go use?

Toylove:
It is what it is

right from the qualifiers that has been my issue with this team, you can't control game even against lowly rayed teams.

ChrisKels:
At the end, football won against anti football

But ena no talk this thing since the tournament started 😂 😂. I actually was not comfortable with the fact that we play team like GB, Angola and have less possession to this teams, but it we talk Charlsemeka go say people with good midfield don go house. 😂

Blueelf:
We had a good tournament

We will come back better, no doubt

that's if we work on our midfield

elyte89:



Dere was neva a midfield battle as far as I am concerned…. For larger part of d game, our middle was nonexistent till Dey scored d 2nd goal , to be sincere dis was our worst match today .we played poorly…Aina was cooked by that andriga guy…

we did not come to this Afcon with midfielders, we did not win possession over any team even GB

TheGoodJoe:


We can attack them and play well if we want to. This is not an excuse.

Bro we don't have the midfield to attack any team.

We seriously need good midfielders, we can't go far with this midfield.

Zellas:
Remove Chukwueze and iwobi for simon and yusuf. This is a very easy match to win

Abeg make yusuf no come cos penalty

Worst officiating of this tournament

charlesemeka85:


I won’t blame iwobi because the southies knew that everything going forward in our team came through him so they worked hard closing him down whenever he had the ball which made Alex to resort to simple side ways passes

They knew if givin space that Alex has the ability to easily link up our midfield and attack to create chances and they seriously worked hard in denying him that space

You see the way they mark out moses making ineffective

Goke7:


Blame Iwobi and be grateful that Jpes removed him on time else SA would have opened scoring before us

Our midfield still remains our weakest area, not because of iwobi but because it's too lean. Watch most times yesterday when SA is with the ball we play 3-2-5

Stillwater10:


You say we did not miss him and yet his absence was enough to alter the position of Aina. It's obvious the coach does not trust others to play that position and the I believe the coach must have a cogent reason.
Our wingers were caged yesterday because the wing backs could not easily go forward. This was what Zaidu was doing although with poor final balls

Jpes is very rigid hard trust his bench, with the absence of zaidu, he just went back to what he already know, switch back to what he used against GB. SA was breaking through the middle and not through the wings.

Barryseal:
I dont know if anyone in our technical area noticed the South African GK had a shoulder injury. He was in pains on his right shoulder. I was screaming that our pk takers should place balls to his right.
I think Omeruo was the only player who seemed to take advantage of this information. Williams almost caught Iheanacho's pk because he placed it on his good side. He dived to his left most of the time.
These minor things can make a difference. Our bench should take note.

If that Nacho pk is replayed the same way, William still won't catch it. It was very precise, the worst that will happen is for the ball to hit the bar.

ChrisKels:
An epitome of confidence. This guy handles his defenders and encourages his players as though he was their guardian. Well, yea he guards their post. Dude acts so mature and he is full of presence. His aura is so superb and it is hard to believe he is just a new member of the team.

He act like he has been with the team for a very long time.

ChrisKels:
Those of you saying we missed Zaidu yesterday I guess you guys were watching the back of your TV sets. How was he missed? Did the SA threaten through our left or were we found wanting defending from our left side? What was that that was missed about Zaidu, his crosses? Did you guys see how delicious Aina crosses were and his neat tackles inside our box? We didn’t miss him. We only missed Aina on the RWB position. SA attacked more through the middle with long balls trying to catch our centre backs flat footed.

Guy you dey watch ball, I was wondering when they say we miss Zaidu, he was not missed at all, just like you said we only miss Aina at RWB, I was really wished he was left at RWB while Bruno was brought in or maybe Bassey.

comodo:

But moffi looks like he is heavy. Moffi I know is faster than the one I saw today. But please who sent that pass?? That was tailor made. Osimhen will be licking his lips if na him get that kind pass.

Nacho boy

Tinneh:
Loved the way terem moffi timed his run brilliantly in the build up to that red card, excellent offside awareness

And good pass from Nacho

Nice pk from our boys, I wanted them to score the 5pk to prove a point. Na CV no sabi play pk

mostob:
Sadiq has the better chance.

time will tell, with the number of strickers coming up every day

Joebie:
If Osimhen had scored 3 our 6 big chances, he’d have 4 goals now. So Osimhen could excel in this set up. He’s just missed some chances.

Likewise Moffi. All this set up talk. In a 3-4-3 you have a point man. Moffi has played in a variety of formations in Nice. As a RF/RW in a 4-3-3. As a CF in a 4-3-3 and even as a CF in a 3-4-3 (where he also scored). See below their game vs Lyon

Yea you are right, I was just irritated with his statement that kc and moffi cannot score in this setup like are they amateur players