Jozzy4:


Don't be silly, if the sons of the Mighty are angels , who is their Father ?

Is Jesus not also a son.

..and who is the Mighty?....stupid fool..

Jesus is the Mighty God, Jesus is the One Lord... Jesus is the Begotten Son of God, all angelic beings are created, we humans are also sons of God because He is our Father and creator.. Angels and humans are The sons of Jesus because he is their creator.Jesus is the Creator, Jesus is Yahweh

Janosky:


The Jews removed the divine name YHWH because they claimed that Jehovah's name was too holy to be called by mere sinful men.

Jesus used the divine name & made the name known to his followers.

Jesus said "I have made your name known to the men whom you gave me out of the world" John 17:6,26.
Matt 6:9
How would Jesus himself have made the divine name known if he had substituted YHWH in favour of "Lord"?

..stupid idiot.... So what was the name Jesus mentioned?? If Jesus said i have made your name known then show us where Jesus used Yhwh as Gods name? Stupid assumptionist... If Jesus made Gods name known why did He says we should say Father? Why did Jesus Himself call him Father and not by His name? Yahweh, Jehovah etc are not God's name my friend, the name is YHWH and the probunciation of that name has been lost.. what we now have is formulated name to help us pronounce the real name of YHWH.. So your Jehovah and Yahweh isn't the real name of YHWH... Why is Jehovah in the book of revelation, the Greek word for that is kyrious which means Lord, simple, under which authority did your stupid cult use Jehovah in revelation when revelation wasn't written in Hebrew?... stupid idiots..

Jozzy4:


Thomas is a Jew, its not unusual for Jews to address Gods messengers as God himself . this does not mean they believe the particular messenger is God, but they acknowledge he is from God

Jacob fight with an angel, yet he said he fight with God .

Manoah and his wife saw an Angel , but Manoah exclaimed, We have seen God! We will die.

So Thomas statement is understandable , as Jesus himself is also a representative from God. But that doesn't make him the only true God , that sent him.

John wrote: his book was written so you can believe Jesus is Gods son NOT God himself.

..stupid idiot... look at your stupid explaination, They knew who Jesus was, not a random being appearing to them, so for Thomas to call My God and My Lord means He Aknowledges Jesus as God...stupid fool.... who spoke in the burning bush? Who stopped Abraham from sacrificing Isaac, etc, was it an angel or God... only God can answer prayers, Jesus said ask anything in my name and I will do it.... stupid fool

Jozzy4:


I don't think anyone ask u who is the everlasting father. We only want to know who is OUR Father.

Jesus is not our Father - John 20:17. FACT

But Yahweh is OUR Father , Jesus is not - Isaiah 63:16


No son of God is Yahweh - Psalm 89:6

what's the difference betwen everlasting Father and our Father... mehn you guys are so stupid and dumb..... who is the Eternal Father? Is he not our Father? ... same Isaiah said Jesus is our Everlasting Father..... same Isaiah said Yahweh is the Mighty God, same Isaiah said Jesus is the Mighty God...e pain you die...

Jozzy4:

Very silly , I even throught u will say he isnt a son , So u admit he is a son ? , Jesus is a son too ( Rev 2:18) .

NO SON OF GOD is Yahweh oooooo , Psalm 89:6

You are still being stupid.....Jesus is Yahweh, Jesus is the One Yahweh.. 1cor 8, Jesus is the Begotten Son of God, at least the Jews and John understood that he that is the only Son of God is God himself and that was why they wanted to kill him... Jesus is the Mighty God, everlasting Father... Jesus is the Creator of all things ... You are stupid, if Jesus created all the angels including Michael and Gabriel, why do your stupid cult say Jesus is Michael...bunch of retards... ... illiterates..

Jozzy4:


Fixed ! U quickly change it to. Person. but u can say husband is one flesh, wife is another flesh , why not say husband is one person, wife is one person as well ? Fraud person , 419


silly person , Jesus admit they are two flesh , but will become one flesh . Why not admit you have two Gods at John 1:1 too, but that u want them to become one God ?

Are u now telling me your TWO GODS at John 1:1 will have to become one God too ? Hahahaha

Who is the One God composed of, One or two persons ? " one God and Father of all " Ephesians 4

So the one God is actually the Father of all, 419 not three person's/Gods , just one .

..So two persons can become one abi? So why is it difficult for you to understand the trinity that 3 persons can be one also... ..you've answered it yourself stupid idiot...

Jozzy4:


No single thinking is left with you. Did Jesus said they are not TWO ? He said these TWO , admitting they are two, but will BECOME one flesh ... U should ask how they become one flesh instead of embarrassing your silly self.

Are you now saying this TWO GODs will become ONE GOD. ? don't let me laugh o

See how block headed you are.... per your analogy how does two become one? You see how your face turn blue... You shy Abi? That's why it's said you know nothing about the trinity, stupid illiterate like you.. three persons making one God that's the trinity you idiot so if two persons can become one so three can become one.... two becoming one flesh isn't confusing but three becoming one is? Stupid pagan, block head like you...

And of course an illiterate like can't even type my name well...

Jozzy4:


Zodik or whatever is your name, u no smart at all , Is Isaac a Son ? Idiot, Jesus is a son of God . Rev 2:18 , When will u have sense

No Son of God is Yahweh!!!

You are stupid, Isaac is not only a mere son He is the only Begotten Son... block head

Jozzy4:


Who ask u why they Call Jesus everlasting Father ? U are not smart , Isiaiah 9:6 is a title. Jesus is Not the Father , Jesus himself said it. John 20:17 , why are you arguing with him ? U see where your lack of wisdom has driven u

... So is Father not a title? Stupid idiot... the title of Jesus is Everlasting Father... This was a prophesy about Jesus, He was called the mighty God, Jesus never called himself the Son of God, it was others testimony about him that says He's the Son of God.. Jesus even though was in the nature God never equalled himself to The Father.... Humility.... but others testimony he is God and Lord... idiot...Jesus is the Everlasting Father...

Jozzy4:



Revelation 2 : 18_ Jesus said he is Son of God. I don't know what exactly is your problem , So because Isaac is only begotten he isn't a son, Sense , sense , sense ,

Psalm 89:6 Bro

You came here disrespecting and shouting now you see how stupid and a fool you are... go back to your foundation school you idiot... You know nothing only poo in your pagan head...block heads

Jozzy4:



Revelation 2 : 18_ Jesus said he is Son of God. I don't know what exactly is your problem , So because Isaac is only begotten he isn't a son, Sense , sense , sense ,

Psalm 89:6 Bro

Common sense will tell you that Isaac was not the only Son yet he was the only begotten.. stupidity to the highest.... That is why no angel is begotten as son of God only Jesus and that is why he's not angel Michael.. Stupid idiots....

Jozzy4:


Small sense u don't have. Jesus himself said he is Son of God at Revelation 2:18 , U still fighting him ?

No son of God is Yahweh ooooooo

Only begotten son is still a son , Isaac is a son, Jesus is a son of God too. , haba just imagine the disgrace u are giving yourself here

You are caught and just trying to be stupid, If Isaac is a son of Abraham then why was he the begotten? Abraham had two sons and ishmael is the eldest but Isaac is said to be the Only begotten Son of Abraham.. don't be stupid and don't play with words you pagan.. You are against your very own organization..Stupid ostrich..

Jozzy4:


I am going to my Father AND YOUR FATHER . - John 20:17,, that's Jesus telling us who is our father , Yahweh not himself


Like I always tell you, u are just a desperate liar. U know u have been caught.

1. No son of God is Yahweh

2. Yahweh is our Father.

Isaiah 63:9 Yahweh is our Father. , Jesus is not the Father. The above is a title, it never said " OUR " Father Is Jesus , " OUR father" __ and " YOUR " John 20:17 point to one single person, NOT Jesus

Desperate Boy, is Jesus OUR Father ?

Stop embarrassing your self outside, even Jesus said you lied. John 20:17.

... upon all your pillar to post, you have failed to address Isaiah 8:6 where Jesus is called the Everlasting Father... ... Isaiah called Jesus the Everlasting Father because Jesus Is our Creator you idiot... Jesus is Yahweh..

Jozzy4:

You still don't have sense Sir.

Bucket. With Bucket doesn't mean One Bucket . .. It's two Buckets.

God WITH God proved two Gods.both are different entity and each is God, and they are with Each. Other


Am sure u have met something stronger than your teeth in that John 1:1 , So solve your problem, how come u have Two Gods that are with Each other ?

Stupid idiot, you have no sense and knowledge about the trinity.... You that said Jesus is another god isn't that saying there are two gods? THE word is God, the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God.. That is trinity you idiot... So if the Word which is God is with the Father which is God, is God not with God? Illetrate like you...


Look at your stupid analogy with the bucket.. we are talking about spiritual things u are talking about bucket..

Husband is one flesh

Wife is another flesh

Which should make them 2 flesh based on your analogy but the bible says these two will become ONE FLESH not two.. Stupid idiot.... challenge that..

TATIME:
Where is the result of your godliness? James 2:18-26
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
Is your God working at all? John 5:17

Stupid pagan... Muslim like you..

johnw47:
Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer


Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon
Watchtower 12/1/1961, p. 717-720
"United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision"



"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which means Destruction. (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; 12:23; 14:19) In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1961, p. 719).

Comment: Abaddon is the Hebrew for the ruling angel in hell. Apollyon is the Greek equivalent. Is it Jesus? No. The New Topical Textbook lists Abaddon and Apollyon as names of Satan. The Bible Knowledge Commentary does the same.





false jw's jesus is satan, of course



let me know if you need the rest of this article written by a christian,

They are stupid and confuse.... and this ones are leading many poor souls to hell

Jozzy4:


If supreme is too hard for your sense to understand

Who is the SOVEREIGN Lord of heaven and earth ?

He has no equals, no son of God Is Yahweh, they are just mighty ones [gods]

... Jesus is the Sovereign Lord, you no get eyes to see that unto us there's but One Lord Jesus Christ? ... did Jesus ever call the Father My Lord? ... Christians only worship one Lord and One God and One Spirit and we have only One Faith...

Jozzy4:


Sense just elude you guys

With is used for more than one. So one God is with another God.

God was WITH God

Two Gods.

Open your sense and see the meaning of " With "

That's why I said you 're stupid.. ... in the beginning was the Word, the word was with God..... this tells your small brain that there are two persons here... And the Word was God.. this tells you that that person is also God.... this one was in the beginning with God... The Word, second person of the trinity was there in the infinite with God, and the Word is also God, God with God... .... you are stupid... how can man and woman be one when they marry? ..And the two shall become one flesh..Mark 10:8-9.... how can two flesh become one? Stupid idiot.... you should question that too... .. you are the most stupid and useless JW I've ever come across...

Jozzy4:



Ordinary Psalm 89:6 u are yet to get over or explain. No Son of God is Yahweh. That alone has expose you.

Isaiah 63:16 - Yahweh is our Father.

For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn't know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name.

...... you see how you enter boiling water...


For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV


So who is the Father here too?

Jozzy4:



Assuming you have sense, it would have tell you a begotten son is as well a Son of God . Rev 2:18

Psalm 89:6 , no Son of God is Yahweh.

Use your sense

You are so stupid... go and read your own foolish organization calling you are fool.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003331

As stupid and twisted as they are at least they admit Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.....


The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Loʹgos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18)

From your own site.... stupid fool....

Jozzy4:



Assuming you have sense, it would have tell you a begotten son is as well a Son of God . Rev 2:18

Psalm 89:6 , no Son of God is Yahweh.

Use your sense

....I have nothing more to say... you are just stupid.... you want to write your bible...I beg go and read Hebrews well and tell the writer he's stupid... better still go and tell your organization this and you will be disfellowshiped, you are even more stupid and ignorant than the ones here... .. here to to your own stupid website and educated.. as stupid as they are at least they are not as foolish as you are..... go and read and see Jesus is the only son of God because He was the only begotten.. .... pagan


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989240

Jozzy4:


Stop sounding stupi.d , Yahweh is just the Father , no one else , you are hiding under the cover of Trinity Lie that Yahweh is name of father , son


" For who in the sky is equal to Yahweh? Who is like Yahweh among the sons of God, " - psalm 89:6

Yahweh has no equal and No son of God is like Yahweh. Jesus is a son of God . that cancels your lies


Peace

...you really disgrace yourselves and your stupid organization... Jesus alone is the Begotten Son of God...no angel was begotten of God as a son.....that's the lie they feed you yet they go behind you to say only Jesus is the Begotten of God... brain washed idiots..

Jozzy4:


Stop sounding stupi.d , Yahweh is just the Father , no one else , you are hiding under the cover of Trinity Lie that Yahweh is name of father , son


" For who in the sky is equal to Yahweh? Who is like Yahweh among the sons of God, "

Yahweh has no equal and No son of God is like Yahweh. Jesus is a son of God.


Peace

Show me a verse that says Yahweh is the Father? ...u don enter boiling water....

Jozzy4:


You are never bold to quote verse 2 of that John 1:1 because it will expose your frauds .

Okay the Word was God.

Vrs2 ' this one was in the beginning WITH GOD '

Who is this one according to vrs 1 in your translation ? The word (God)

So vrs 2 means This one ( God ) was in the beginning WITH God '

With is used for two or more.

So how many Gods do you serve since Two Gods are with each other ?

Sense is above you

Stupid idiot.. and the Word was God, sometimes you sound so foolish... what is the trinity? Go and learn about it before disgracing yourself here..... now, let's see why you 're stupid, your NWT says and the Word was a god, another god, in vs two going by your own assumption then this one (a god) was in the beginning with God... two gods in question here, na you get sense pass wey you never show am.. ...... The Word is God, and yes God was in THE beginning wirh God because there are three persons in the God head the father, son and holy spirit... Son can be with the Father, God with God..thats the Trinity... not another god with God ....stupid potatoes...

Jozzy4:


The noun " God " can mean supreme being or mean powerful one .. .. The second is what Jesus represent. That rules out the false or true god comparison. He can only be false If he claimed to be the supreme one. He never did. He even acknowledge he has a God.

..look at this stupid one too, Yahweh said i ALONE I'M GOD, he didnt say I alone I'm supreme God, you are stupid and trying to be stupid... idiot... we only have ONE God and One Lord which is Yahweh.... stop pooing here and there.. bunch of potatoes... pagans... you think we are fools like you? ... there are so called gods and lords... But unto us there is but One God and One Lord.... ...

Janosky:


zodiakzax educated illiterate & lying Pharisee.
Your Bible says "there are many gods in heaven,(Jesus is a god) & all of them inferior to the Father , the One & only Supreme,Almighty God ,Jehovah.(John 17:3. Exodus 6:3).
The 3 "Gods" pagan worshipper, zodiakzax ,stop being foolish .

..if Jesus is a god then He's a false god because unto us there's but One God... bibke never said unto us there's an almighty.. ... you deny the bible and call Yahweh stupid... Yahweh said i ALONE I'M GOD, THERES NO GOD BESIDE ME.... now you say there are gods beside Yahweh.. .... stupid pagan.... see how you poo on yourself... we only have ONE GOD AND ONE LORD... stupid pagan..

Stop.disgracing yourself and your colleagues... show us where the bibke says there are many many gods and Yahweh is the superior?? ... BUT UNTO US THERES BUT ONE GOD AND ONE LORD..... if Jesus was a god then why is He our One Lord? ...if I were your organisation I would have rendered John1:1 as ..... and the Word was the Lord... .... stupid illiterates

Janosky:


Your Bible in 1 Cor 8:5,6 says "gods exist in heaven", Jesus is a god , he is one of the many gods in heaven.

"There is none like you among the gods ,O Jehovah" Psalms 86:8

"To whom can you people liken me so that I should be made his equal?' says the. Holy One" (Jehovah). Isaiah 40:25

The Almighty God,the Father is Supreme, above all of the gods in heaven.

zodiakzax can U, pls stop being stupid?

... but unto us there's but One God and One Lord...my friend it is clear.. Yahweh said i alone I'm God there's none to before me or after me..


I am the Lord , and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord , and there is none else.
Isaiah 45:5‭-‬6 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/isa.45.5-6.KJV


My friend stop being stupid if you believe there are many gods and Yahweh is the greatest then you are a pagan And a polytheist.. it is clear that unto us THERES BUT ONE GOD AND ONE LORD..SO STOP SOUNDING FOOLISH...PAGAN

he said there are many gods in heaven.. then Yahweh is stupid for saying he alone is God, he didnt say he alone is Almighty, He said " I alone I'm God" ....stupid pagan

Janosky:


"For even if there are so called gods whether in heaven or on earth"
1Cor 8:5

Educated illiterate zodiakzax, your bible says "gods exist in heaven", Jesus is a god in heaven, "who is at the Father's (Jehovah's) side" .

"But not everyone knows this"
1cor 8:7.
If u get mind, go comot am from your Bible na !
Educated illiterate zodiakzax & johnw Pharisee (plus their 3 "Gods" pagan worship crew) stubbornly refused to know it.
Confused bunch of triune gods Pharisees.

..see how stupid you are.. 1cor 8:5 is what you quote, maybe you should have seeked advice form your pagan friends here before commenting... Let's look at the whole verse..

For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and Lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
1 Corinthians 8:5‭-‬6 KJV

..stupid pagan.... unto us there's but One God and One Lord...... nowhere says that unto us there are two gods or two Lords.... there's no Lord and God besides Yahweh, all other so called lords and gods are fake..... so stop being stupid... there were smarter ones than you here who had to poo on themselves .... so again you are a stupid pagan who believes that we have two gods, one Almighty and the other mighty... both deserve worship anyways since they are both gods..... pagan.... ... John 1:1 is blasphemy in the NWT... stupid pagans...

Janosky:


The popular corruption of John 1:1 contradicts the truth revealed by Jesus & the holy scriptures.
John 20;17,30,31. 1cor 11:3. & 15:24,27. Matt 16:13-17. Rev3:12,14,21. John 17:3

cc: VICOiheaka

...stupid pagan, so.you believe Jesus is another god beside God Almighty.. idiot... ..pagan man

Janosky:


Educated illiterate ....
A half baked illiterate like zodiakzax lacks comprehension skills.
That Janosky post pass your level.
Get outta here

...is that all you have to say?... ...liar... uve been exposed so shut your pagan mouth..

Janosky:


" . .Written by a Christian " is Hogwash ! That "Christian" no get name or website ?

Johnw47 is a fraud.
NL is a public forum and as result, whatever quote that U post on this forum ,the original source must be accessible & verifiable to everyone here .

Your so-called "Christian" source said "To say 'God is your throne' does not make sense" confirmed that Johnw47 & his "christian" source speaks with both side of their mouth, they are fraudulent.
Their post said :
"The RSV translates it as "Your divine throne endures forever .." which he wrote is the "best translation" in the opinion of "most Bible theologians!'

NWT : "God is your throne forever and ever"

Is the RSV translation synonymous with NWT ?
Yes of course !
Johnw47 is a confirmed fraud.
Trinity doctrine & johnw47 na 5&6

..how exactly is " your divine throne endures forever" synonymous to " God is your throne forever and ever" ... explain Mr Pagan... stop being stupid and a fool... Nwt is full of shiit... how in the hell is God even his throne..


kis·'a·cha, e·lo·him.... your throne,God.... psalm 45:6...

https://biblehub.com/lexicon/psalms/45-6.htm


Stop being stupid..

Janosky:


Only a fraudulent person copies another man's work with out acknowledgement of the source.
This OP ,johnw47 is a fraud .

Your Source says "God is your throne" (NWT) is a legitimate translation of the Greek texts.
Their further attempts to discredit their own statement reeks of double standard , fraud and bias.

Hey pagan stop spreading your stupidity and illiteracy every where you go... You are not even worth our time and effort... stupid idiot...