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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:26am On Jan 13, 2019 |
one of the things a christian does when saved is to do away with lying however false jw's glory in their lies, habitually lying and repeating their lies, showing they are not saved and showing who their god is: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 1:38am On Jan 13, 2019 |
about false jw's and others who twist truth and love a lie: 2Pe 3:16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 7:48am On Jan 13, 2019 |
johnw47: Guy, remove the veil in your eyes and see the highlighted , U are worshipping two separate GODS . that are with each other 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by PastorAIO: 7:40pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
PastorAIO: No answer to this one? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 9:53pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
PastorAIO: John20:28 , Thomas called Jesus my "my Lord & my God", that is Jesus na Thomas Oga. Jesus said, I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God" John 20:17,30,31 Jesus say he get his own Papa& Oga ,wey still be the Oga & Papa of Thomas. Jesus big pass Thomas, but Papa God Almighty big pass Jesus & Thomas. The scriptures can not be broken, ' I am God's son', says Jesus (John 10:34-36. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 10:25pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
johnw47: Johnw lying Pharisee keeps going against God's word the holy Bible. "If you think you are standing firm, be careful that you don't fall" 1 cor 10:12 "But he who stands firm to the end will be saved", says Jesus Christ Matt 24:13. Judas,Ananias &Saphira were not saved because they never stood firm to the end of each of their lives. "It is not over until the final whistle" Each servant of Jehovah is a work in progress until the final whistle. Jesus said a Christian is not saved until he "stands firm to the end" but johnw lying Pharisee keeps peddling junk gospel alien to Christ & true Christianity. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 10:38pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Jozzy4: laugh, false jw jozzy, you have no understanding at all, truly Father and the Word are two persons in the one God they are not two gods as you false jw's believe Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD but confused jozzy, keep believing in your two false gods |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 10:46pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Janosky: false jw jano post the quotes where i say against the bible so i can point out where you cannot stop lying: Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 10:56pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Janosky:false jw jano the son has a Father, oh duh, really the Father has a Son, oh duh, really laughing the Father and the Son is God: Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. and God is one: Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: of course false jw jano you will never understand it, or believe God's word, you satans mob don't have God living in you, of course |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:02pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Jozzy4: ... So is Father not a title? Stupid idiot... the title of Jesus is Everlasting Father... This was a prophesy about Jesus, He was called the mighty God, Jesus never called himself the Son of God, it was others testimony about him that says He's the Son of God.. Jesus even though was in the nature God never equalled himself to The Father.... Humility.... but others testimony he is God and Lord... idiot...Jesus is the Everlasting Father... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:03pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Jozzy4: You are stupid, Isaac is not only a mere son He is the only Begotten Son... block head |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:07pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
TATIME: cannot tell the truth false jw tatime you make up the lie: "I remember one saying "any other religion is OK as long as it's not JWs even Book Haram is OK"" and then you go on to further lie: "That's when i realized that i've truthfully found Jesus' real organization!" see the evil of false jw's, only satan and his mob talk lies non stop as the natural way of talking |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 11:08pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Jozzy4: See how block headed you are.... per your analogy how does two become one? You see how your face turn blue... You shy Abi? That's why it's said you know nothing about the trinity, stupid illiterate like you.. three persons making one God that's the trinity you idiot so if two persons can become one so three can become one.... two becoming one flesh isn't confusing but three becoming one is? Stupid pagan, block head like you... And of course an illiterate like can't even type my name well... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by PastorAIO: 11:11pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
Janosky: You seem to have missed the part where I drew your attention to the definite article 'Ho' in Greek. Thomas said, The Lord of me, and The God of me. Not a God. But The God. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 11:36pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
. johnw47: johnw47: Crooked Johnw lying Pharisee. Why your complaints? U dey call "Tat" ,"Jano", joz", which u know were not their respective NL moniker. Comot that fraud u call Deut6:4. The correct Hebrew version of Deut 6:4 "Hear O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah (Yahweh). The Tetragrammatton (YHWH) appeared twice in verse 4,in the correct version. Johnw lying Pharisee, in john 4:24, did Jesus say he is a spirit? LIAR. A kindergarten kid knows that "Yahweh (Jehovah) our God is one Jehovah( Yahweh)". That kid will have more sense than johnw lying Pharisee who lied that "Father and the word are two persons having one spirit" . |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Crysthaniel(m): 11:49pm On Jan 13, 2019 |
The scriptures make it clear 1 John 4:10 says that The love is in this respect, not that we have loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a propitiatory sacrifice for our sins. Acts 5:28-31 “We strictly ordered you not to keep teaching on the basis of this name, and yet look! you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you are determined to bring the blood of this man upon us.” 29 In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as ruler rather than men. 30 The God of our forefathers raised up Jesus, whom you killed, hanging him on a stake. 31 God exalted this one as Chief Agent and Savior to his right hand, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:28am On Jan 14, 2019 |
Janosky: false accuser jano YHWH is a name for God, so "Jehovah our God is one Jehovah", is correct, and "the Lord our God is one Lord", is correct, but i understand your continual confusion, laugh Janosky: false jw jano before Jesus became flesh He is a Spirit(the Word), ha ha, oh duh Janosky: know nothing jano of course God is one God: Deu_6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: ha ha, and of course Father and the Word are two persons duh, of course they have one Spirit, God is a Spirit: Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. hilarious confused jano, you false jw show what duh's you are post after post, day after day |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 2:48am On Jan 14, 2019 |
Jesus is both God and man: Col 2:9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form one of Jesus names is: "God with us" Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. false jw's would lie and say "Immanuel" means: "a god with us" 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 7:58am On Jan 14, 2019 |
zodiakzax: Fixed ! U quickly change it to. Person. but u can say husband is one flesh, wife is another flesh , why not say husband is one person, wife is one person as well ? Fraud person , 419 silly person , Jesus admit they are two flesh , but will become one flesh . Why not admit you have two Gods at John 1:1 too, but that u want them to become one God ? Are u now telling me your TWO GODS at John 1:1 will have to become one God too ? Hahahaha Who is the One God composed of, One or two persons ? " one God and Father of all " Ephesians 4 So the one God is actually the Father of all, 419 not three person's/Gods , just one . |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:01am On Jan 14, 2019 |
zodiakzax:Very silly , I even throught u will say he isnt a son , So u admit he is a son ? , Jesus is a son too ( Rev 2:18) . NO SON OF GOD is Yahweh oooooo , Psalm 89:6 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:09am On Jan 14, 2019 |
zodiakzax: I don't think anyone ask u who is the everlasting father. We only want to know who is OUR Father. Jesus is not our Father - John 20:17. FACT But Yahweh is OUR Father , Jesus is not - Isaiah 63:16 No son of God is Yahweh - Psalm 89:6 |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:13am On Jan 14, 2019 |
johnw47: God [ the Word ] was WITH God [ the Father ] 419, how many God is that ?
I thought Barrister07 ask you to go and do your assignment on that Deu 6:4 Yahweh our God, is one Yahweh. That's what it says , 419 quoting rubbish for us. No son of God is Yahweh - Psalm 89:6. Yahweh is our Father not Jesus. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Jozzy4: 8:31am On Jan 14, 2019 |
PastorAIO: Thomas is a Jew, its not unusual for Jews to address Gods messengers as God himself . this does not mean they believe the particular messenger is God, but they acknowledge he is from God Jacob fight with an angel, yet he said he fight with God . Manoah and his wife saw an Angel , but Manoah exclaimed, We have seen God! We will die. So Thomas statement is understandable , as Jesus himself is also a representative from God. But that doesn't make him the only true God , that sent him. John wrote: his book was written so you can believe Jesus is Gods son NOT God himself. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by PastorAIO: 10:01am On Jan 14, 2019 |
Jozzy4: Angel of God gets conflated with God himself, I agree. But it is not just the matter of convention. Otherwise we can question every encounter with God in the bible. Did Moses meet god? did he see the back of god's head? Did Adam and Eve converse with god in the garden of eden? DID methuselah walk with God? etc etc etc...... 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 11:12am On Jan 14, 2019 |
johnw47: Johnw lying Pharisee keeps peddling junk. John 4:1-34, nowhere did Jesus say "Father and the Word have "one spirit". The preface in different Bible versions says that the name of God (YHWH- Yahweh ,Jehovah) was removed & substituted with the title "LORD" Deut 6:4 is NOT correct, in as much as Johnw lying Pharisee would never agree to the removal of his name from any book he wrote.. Yet he see's nothing with removal of Jehovah's name from His word the Bible crooked Johnw lying Pharisee |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:42pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
You should study that dusty old bible of yours sometime-you great abuser from the south-or even better accept Jesus into your heart and receive the Holy Spirit to teach you all things to know about the Word of God! It will be a lot easier for you to understand! Every time I read your page-your anger raises over nothing-if I was to give it a score from a 100% deafeningly your score is a 100%. All we are doing is defending the Word of God-we defend it from that very same bible you claim to use the KJ's, hypocrite! We never come to you, you came to us-if you expect us to listen to you, then you need to come up with a better way to get our attention, your anger is abusive, someone claiming to be a Christian, and acts like you, really it's people like you, who put Christians down.. We don't follow the Watchtower why? because it has to many faults within, you use the KJ's 'why? because the NWT bible has faults! You use the KJ's to a point-why? because the NWT and the KJ's bibles have scriptures your Watchtower literature refuses to teach. It isn't worth your wild getting yourselves all worked up over nothing, read the scriptures, and if they are hard to understand them, study the scriptures, learn it from the KJ's and believe these are God's Word given to His People to learn by. It's pointless trying to cut our throats over the Word of God! You say you use the KJ'S version, we also use the KJ's version! And what we see and study we write it down.. Janosky: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:03pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
And with all your giving, you still haven't given the bible away-you literature go's straight in the bin, which of course ends up at the rubbish dump! We have read the scriptures, and we don't hold back on giving bibles away, we send bibles all over the world, where we have bible teachers, teaching the Gospel Jesus said: go out and teach.. TATIME:Giving magazines,brochures, books and even deluxe Bibles all of high quality materials for FREE! Is pointless-it isn't a matter of speaking who pays for it, Jesus gave a command-go out and preach His gospel--we must remember your literature has nothing to do with the Word of God! Your literature has no spiritual power, it's dead! It's science fiction... TATIME: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 3:46pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by PastorAIO: 4:07pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
Janosky: brocab: Who removed YHWH from the bible? It wasn't any christian cult. Rather it was the Jews themselves when they wrote the LXX, the greek translation of the hebrew scriptures. This was done around 3rd century BC. Jesus himself used the LXX and quoted from it so it cannot be as bad as you are making it out to be. That would mean that Jesus himself substituted Kyrios (lord) for YHWH. For more detail see here: https://www.nairaland.com/1224167/contra-bibliolatreia-ii-septuagint |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 4:09pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
brocab: The hogwash & trash of brocab lying Pharisee. I dey vex for who? Lol . I'm not angry at anyone whatsoever. Anger no dey my mind.Na your conscience dey judge U. What has your pointless post got to do with these issues raised in my previous post? U dodged them & resorted to post nonsense ... A) Removal of God's (Jehovah) name, YHWH from almost all Bible versions except NWT & a few others. YHWH substituted with "Lord" @ Deut6:4. ("In regard to the divine name, YHWH, commonly referred to as the Tetragramaton, the translators adopted the device used in most English versions of rendering that name as. " LORD" in capital letters. 'Preface' in "Women of Faith Study Bible", New International Version). (B) where in John 4:1-34 did Jesus say "the Father and the word are two persons having one spirit"? according to your fellow Pharisee . The "mystery" that confused u na "holy ghost" demon dey teach u... Dey there dey deceive yourself |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
brocab:Thank you Sir! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 5:46pm On Jan 14, 2019 |
PastorAIO: The Jews removed the divine name YHWH because they claimed that Jehovah's name was too holy to be called by mere sinful men. Jesus used the divine name & made the name known to his followers. Jesus said "I have made your name known to the men whom you gave me out of the world" John 17:6,26. Matt 6:9 How would Jesus himself have made the divine name known if he had substituted YHWH in favour of "Lord"? |
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