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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 7:49pm On Jan 09
Jozzy4:



Ordinary Psalm 89:6 u are yet to get over or explain. No Son of God is Yahweh. That alone has expose you.

Isaiah 63:16 - Yahweh is our Father.

For you are our Father, though Abraham doesn't know us, and Israel does not acknowledge us: you, Yahweh, are our Father; our Redeemer from everlasting is your name.



grin grin grin grin grin...... you see how you enter boiling water...


For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV


So who is the Father here too?
grin grin grin cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 7:57pm On Jan 09
Jozzy4:


Sense just elude you guys

With is used for more than one. So one God is with another God.

God was WITH God

Two Gods.

Open your sense and see the meaning of " With "



That's why I said you 're stupid.. grin grin grin grin grin... in the beginning was the Word, the word was with God..... this tells your small brain that there are two persons here... And the Word was God.. this tells you that that person is also God.... this one was in the beginning with God... The Word, second person of the trinity was there in the infinite with God, and the Word is also God, God with God... grin grin grin grin.... you are stupid... how can man and woman be one when they marry? ..And the two shall become one flesh..Mark 10:8-9.... how can two flesh become one? Stupid idiot.... you should question that too... grin grin grin grin.. you are the most stupid and useless JW I've ever come across... grin grin grin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 8:01pm On Jan 09
Jozzy4:


If supreme is too hard for your sense to understand

Who is the SOVEREIGN Lord of heaven and earth ?

He has no equals, no son of God Is Yahweh, they are just mighty ones [gods]

grin grin grin grin grin... Jesus is the Sovereign Lord, you no get eyes to see that unto us there's but One Lord Jesus Christ? grin grin grin grin grin... did Jesus ever call the Father My Lord? grin grin grin... Christians only worship one Lord and One God and One Spirit and we have only One Faith... grin grin grin
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:50pm On Jan 09
Janosky:


Your Bible in 1 Cor 8:5,6 says "gods exist in heaven", Jesus is a god , he is one of the many gods in heaven.

"There is none like you among the gods ,O Jehovah" Psalms 86:8

"To whom can you people liken me so that I should be made his equal?' says the. Holy One" (Jehovah). Isaiah 40:25

The Almighty God,the Father is Supreme, above all of the gods in heaven.

zodiakzax can U, pls stop being stupid?


1Co 8:5  For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) 
1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

verse 5
angels and others are called gods, but they are created, and are not the one God YHWH

verse 6
there is but one God, the Father,
and one Lord Jesus Christ,

of course Father is also called Lord, and Jesus is that one Lord, verse 6
showing that Father and Jesus Christ is Lord God
as john 1:1 also shows:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

false jw's add to john 1:1 calling the Word "a god"



1Co 8:6  But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Deu_6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

^^^ Jesus is one Lord, Father is one LORD
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 12:01am On Jan 10
OneJ:
https://www.biblehub.com/john/1-3.htm
"God created everything THROUGH HIM (Jesus) and nothing was created except THROUGH HIM (Jesus)" John 1:3

false jw onej, your quoted translated verse is true just as the KJV translation is, which you call a lie

God created nothing except what he created through the Word
showing that the Word is not created but has always been

KJV Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.


it's very clear that nothing was made, that the Word-Jesus Christ didn't make, glad you agree for once
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 1:38am On Jan 10
wrath of God = wrath of the Lamb



Rev_14:19  And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Rev 16:14  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Rev 16:15  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk Unclad, and they see his shame.




Rev 6:16  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb
Rev 6:17  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?




Rev 19:11  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 
Rev 19:12  His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 
Rev 19:13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:09am On Jan 10
Yes we also pity you too, when you come to us bringing with you a doctrine that isn't scriptural: and you expect people like us' believe, it doesn't matter how many verses we produce to you, how many ways we have explain them to you, your blindness just won't allow you to see the truth.
Jozzy4:
I pity those you tutor Bible with this useless rants.
We pity you, not wanting to understand any bible knowledge-we put up with you, only because we don't see you! And who would want to know you anyway-personalty we don't like you, you are a big mouth abuser, you don't know the Word of God, and you wouldn't know it, even if it was standing in front of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0gIBwsvId0
Jozzy4:

I pity those you tutor Bible with this useless rants. And attaching scriptures you dont understand

Psalm 89:6 No son of God is Yahweh . that means Jesus Is not Yahweh . why is that too hard for you ?
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:15am On Jan 10
TATIME:
* Jesus must pay for what doesn't rightly belongs to Him,that's why He had to BUY US to become our new everlasting father! Isaiah 9:6
So now you do realise Jesus is King of all kings, Lords of all Lords, It is He that sit upon the throne of God, It is He who is our ever lasting Father!
{Isaiah 9:6} For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Thank you Lord!!!!
TATIME:
You're just repeating the same thing again my friend.
* Adam was the first God's son (in the flesh) while Jesus is the first God's son (in the spirit)
* For procreation of heavenly beings, Jesus is to follow God's instructions. Proverbs 8:27
*For procreation of intelligent creatures on earth, Adam(God's ONLY begotten son in the flesh) is to follow God's instructions. Genesis 1:28
* Adam did NOTHING wrong by having SEX with Eve because that's the INSTRUCTION from his (heavenly) father!
* Adam is our BIOLOGICAL father that means HE BOUGHT US WITH HIS BLOOD (so to speak)because we're all his blood!
* Adam is our father already (through blood) so HE DOESN'T NEED TO BUY US FOR ANY REASON!
* Jesus must pay for what doesn't rightly belongs to Him,that's why He had to BUY US to become our new everlasting father! Isaiah 9:6
* Jesus' death is the only price ACCEPTABLE to purchase obedient mankind,no one is worthy of that because we're all sinners from Adam's BLOOD! Romans 3:23
* The Bible said Jesus and Adam are equals in this case,that's why Jesus was referred to as the LAST ADAM! 1Corinthians 15:45
As for the Godhead or Lucifer's case your mentioned, that aren't DOCUMENTED in the scriptures. You can't expect a bonafide Bible student to accept that,so let's concentrate on WHAT IS WRITTEN in the Bible!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 7:46am On Jan 10
brocab:

So now you do realise Jesus is King of all kings, Lords of all Lords, It is He that sit upon the throne of God, It is He who is our ever lasting Father!
{Isaiah 9:6} For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Thank you Lord!!!!
Hmmmmmmmmm Thanks to JEHOVAH! smiley smiley smiley
Now you know that Jehovah's Witnesses knew much more than you're thinking.
How far about that comprehensive explanation that's on point? That's what it means to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses, it's just a pity that your pastors have incited so much hatred in your minds against this wonderful organization that you're not willing to listen to us,rather you're ever ready to argue! undecided undecided undecided
So Jehovah is the KING who enthroned David as HIS representative to rule HIS people,that's why Jesus is often called the son of David (Matthew 1:1)because JEHOVAH promised that the Messiah will sit on the throne of David (His Father). Luke 1:32
Jesus is now on that throne in heaven, He has began ruling from there,He has driven away all demons out of heaven(Revelation 12:7-9),His next move now is to come and establish His Messianic Kingdom on earth (Act 1:7)so that righteousness may reign AS IS PRESENTLY TAKING PLACE IN HEAVEN ALSO ON EARTH! Matthew 6:10
God bless you!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 7:48pm On Jan 10
TATIME:
* Jesus must pay for what doesn't rightly belongs to Him,that's why He had to BUY US to become our new everlasting father! Isaiah 9:6
What I do know the JW's would never agree with you on this statement above!
TATIME:
So Jehovah is the KING who enthroned David as HIS representative to rule HIS people,that's why Jesus is often called the son of David (Matthew 1:1)because JEHOVAH promised that the Messiah will sit on the throne of David (His Father). Luke 1:32
{Psalm 110:1} David says, “The LORD says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool’”.
{Matthew 22:44} Jesus quotes this verse in a discussion with the Pharisees in order to prove that the Messiah is more than David’s son; He is David’s Lord.
The clause the LORD says to my Lord contains two different Hebrew words for “lord” in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is Adonai, meaning “lord” or “master.” So, in {Psalm 110:1} David writes this: “Yahweh says to my Adonai. . . .” To better understand Jesus’ use of {Psalm 110:1} we’ll look at the identity of each “Lord” separately.The first “Lord” in “the LORD says to my Lord” is the eternal God of the universe, the Great I AM who revealed Himself to Moses in {Exodus 3}
This self-existent, omnipotent God speaks in {Psalm 110} to someone else who is also David’s “Lord.”
The second “Lord” in “the LORD says to my Lord” is the Messiah, or the Christ. {Psalm 110} describes this second “Lord” as follows:
● He sits at God’s right hand {verse 1}
● He will triumph over all His enemies and rule over them {verses 1–2}
● He will lead a glorious procession of troops {verse 3}
● He will be “a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek” {verse 4}
● He will have divine power to crush kings, judge nations, and slay the wicked {verses 5–6}
● He will find refreshment and be exalted {verse 7}
In { Matthew 22:44} Jesus unmistakably identifies the second “Lord” of {Psalm 110:1} as the Messiah, and the Pharisees all agree that, yes, David was speaking of the Messiah. When David wrote, “The LORD says to my Lord,” he distinctly said that the Messiah (or the Christ) was his lord and master—his Adonai.
You seem to think we all need Pastor's or elders-I don't have a Pastor, nor do I call any church building my home, some people will always stay to be followers, they need heads to rule over them in a Church-they rely on Pastors or JW's Elders to teach them, because people these day's are to lazy to read their bible..
Your case is different, your organisation teach you some other doctrine that doesn't line up with bible truth..
I find my best times with the Lord is sitting at home enjoying my day studying, praising Him who saved me, I suppose this is a good reason why I don't have a Pastor-people have already falling away from the truth-because some people just don't like hearing the truth..
TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmm Thanks to JEHOVAH! smiley smiley smiley
Now you know that Jehovah's Witnesses knew much more than you're thinking.
How far about that comprehensive explanation that's on point? That's what it means to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses, it's just a pity that your pastors have incited so much hatred in your minds against this wonderful organization that you're not willing to listen to us,rather you're ever ready to argue! undecided undecided undecided
So Jehovah is the KING who enthroned David as HIS representative to rule HIS people,that's why Jesus is often called the son of David (Matthew 1:1)because JEHOVAH promised that the Messiah will sit on the throne of David (His Father). Luke 1:32
Jesus is now on that throne in heaven, He has began ruling from there,He has driven away all demons out of heaven(Revelation 12:7-9),His next move now is to come and establish His Messianic Kingdom on earth (Act 1:7)so that righteousness may reign AS IS PRESENTLY TAKING PLACE IN HEAVEN ALSO ON EARTH! Matthew 6:10
God bless you!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 8:10pm On Jan 10
brocab:

What I do know the JW's would never agree with you on this statement above!
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Why speak for a whole association of brothers instead of FIRST approaching them to ascertain if what one of them told you is so? grin grin grin
I told you that you knew NOTHING about Jehovah's Witnesses!
Now you're seeing for yourself what JWs believe! wink wink wink
The remaining long stories you're putting up is not important as long as JEHOVAH promised that the Messiah will sit on the throne of David (His father).
Jesus existed before been born by Mary so He certainly existed ahead of David but since both Joseph and Mary are from the lineage of David, we can rightly call Him "the son of David". Matthew 1:6-16/Luke 3:23-31
If you don't believe in Pastors,elders or any religious teachers that means you don't have any connection with the REAL Jesus my friend! Because Jesus is the ONLY means by which God speaks with people today.
Before Christ's era God do speak DIRECTLY with people through dreams, visions and angels, but after Christ the only way believers receive timely information is from mouth to mouth! Hebrew 1:1 Revelation 22:17
So Jesus passed the information to His Apostles who in turn passed it to His numerous disciples who in turn passed it to the general public.
Of course He gave us TEACHERS in the congregations( Ephesians 4:11) but they're not to attach titles to their names, that's why from the President of Watchtower throughout the globe we all address one another as BROTHERS! Matthew 23:8
So if you don't believe in Pastor or Elders,what are you trying to do on NL? Do you want to become a teacher that's not taught by anybody? My friend, everybody believes in the holy spirit so you can't be a teacher simply because you've heard VOICES, all those claiming Pastors do hear voises as well and WE ARE SURE THEY'RE HEARING FROM DEMONS! embarassed embarassed embarassed
That's why Jehovah's Witnesses differs from all these religious groups because we STRONGLY believe ONLY in MOUTH to MOUTH information as Jesus commissioned His program! Matthew 10:11-15
The last time Jesus spoke DIRECTLY with a human from heaven was during the writing of the book of Revelation! Revelations 1:1
After Revelations Jesus spoke with nobody again! That's the significance of Revelations 22:18,19 it connotes NO addition and NO subtraction. All information SEALED until God's kingdom comes! wink wink wink
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 8:24pm On Jan 10
You only think I don't know about the JW's, your organisation is written all over the world-it isn't good, so until you decide to step out in faith, your blindness will always overcome your sight, your hearing will never be the same, because you were taught to never rely on anything other then the lies and wonders the Watchtower brings before you.
It wasn't what the JW's believe-it was what you had written, Jesus is your everlasting Father-the Watchtower do not teach this information-they teach Jehovah is their everlasting Father!
So because you now see, that Jesus is Jehovah Lord and king over creation, you are denying your faith against the Watchtower!!!
TATIME:
Why speak for a whole association of brothers instead of FIRST approaching them to ascertain if what one of them told you is so? grin grin grin
I told you that you knew NOTHING about Jehovah's Witnesses!
Now you're seeing for yourself what JWs believe! wink wink wink
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 9:06pm On Jan 10
brocab:
You only think I don't know about the JW's, your organisation is written all over the world-it isn't good, so until you decide to step out in faith, your blindness will always overcome your sight, your hearing will never be the same, because you were taught to never rely on anything other then the lies and wonders the Watchtower brings before you.
It wasn't what the JW's believe-it was what you had written, Jesus is your everlasting Father-the Watchtower do not teach this information-they teach Jehovah is their everlasting Father!
So because you now see, that Jesus is Jehovah Lord and king over creation, you are denying your faith against the Watchtower!!!
grin grin grin Why not just approach or welcome JWs and tactfully as from any of my brothers in anywhere you find them to tell you who is Isaiah 9:6 calling EVERLASTING FATHER?
Well Jesus is
*Wonderful ~ as everything that comes with him brings wonders,much more than all the prophets put together.
*Counselor ~ as the best counselor who ever walked this earth!
*Mighty God ~served as God in a mighty way much more than Moses. Exodus 7:1
*Everlasting father ~ Our father replacing Adam who supposed to teach us God's words,but died and passed on sin and death to all mankind. Jesus is now our new father who will live or LAST FOREVER!
*Prince of Peace~ Now as a Prince this means He has a father who is the King! John 20:17
He is totally different from JEHOVAH who is the ALMIGHTY God. Exodus 6:2,3
There are many mighty spirit sons of God in heaven and most of them have turned to doing evil so they're now been worshipped as GOD unknowingly by majority of humans. You can grasp this as so many churches are claiming to be worshippers of the same God or Jesus but having different doctrines yet they're not seeing anything wrong in that!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 11:56pm On Jan 10
TATIME:

grin grin grin

Everlasting father ~ Our father replacing Adam who supposed to teach us God's words,but died and passed on sin and death to all mankind. Jesus is now our new father who will live or LAST FOREVER!

Jesus is now our new everlasting father, ha ha

so now we have two everlasting fathers
our old everlasting Father, and our new everlasting father Jesus, smile

so our new everlasting father Jesus sits on the throne to the right of our old everlasting father, laugh

no false jw tatime, Father and the Word is God,
not two god's or two everlasting fathers like you false jw's believe in

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 


new version tat, be sure to read it
Joh 8:44  You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 12:59am On Jan 11
brocab:


{Psalm 110:1} [/color]David says, “The LORD says to my Lord: ‘Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool’”.
[color=#000099]The clause the LORD says to my Lord contains two different Hebrew words for “lord” in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is Adonai, meaning “lord” or “master.” So, in
{Psalm 110:1} David writes this: “Yahweh says to my Adonai. . . .” To better understand Jesus’ use of {Psalm 110:1} we’ll look at the identity of each “Lord” separately.The first “Lord” in “the LORD says to my Lord” is the eternal God of the universe, the Great I AM who revealed Himself to Moses in {Exodus 3}
This self-existent, omnipotent God speaks in {Psalm 110} to someone else who is also David’s “Lord.”
The second “Lord” in “the LORD says to my Lord” is the Messiah, or the Christ. {Psalm 110:1 describes this second “Lord” as follows:
● He sits at God’s right hand [verse 1}● He will triumph over all His enemies and rule over them
brocab:



what the JW's believe--they teach Jehovah is their everlasting Father!
So because you now see, that Jesus is Jehovah Lord and king over creation

brocab educated illiterate & lying Pharisee.

Firstly, JWs teach & believe that Jesus is "Everlasting Father" whom the Bible call's "Last Adam" (or second Adam in some Bible versions) because he restored to mankind the blessing of everlasting life which Adam lost due to of sin& disobedience.1 cor15:22,45-47 .
Rom5:12-19

Brocab explained Psalm110:1,2 that Yahweh (Jehovah) says to Jesus the Messiah "sit at my right hand" ,He (Jesus) sits at God's (Jehovah's) right hand".
He emphasized that Jehovah & Jesus are distinct, not the same.

Brocab lying Pharisee & 3 "Gods" pagan worshipper goes further to contradict himself & lied "that Jesus is Jehovah"

A sane person will not tell himself to sit at his own right hand...
The Trinity falsehood removed brocab's sense .
.The Bible confirmed brocab is a lying Pharisee.

"Now When it says that 'everything' has been put under him (Christ) ,it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ' 1cor15:27.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 1:18am On Jan 11
johnw47:


Jesus is now our new everlasting father, ha ha

so now we have two everlasting fathers
our old everlasting Father, and our new everlasting father Jesus, smile

so our new everlasting father Jesus sits on the throne to the right of our old everlasting father, laugh




Shut up there!
Stop being stupid

Go & borrow sense . There's no collateral attached.


Johnw lying Pharisee & plagiarist.
. 3 "Gods" pagan worship crew member,get outta here.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 4:09am On Jan 11
Janosky:


Shut up there!
Stop being stupid

Go & borrow sense . There's no collateral attached.


Johnw lying Pharisee & plagiarist.
. 3 "Gods" pagan worship crew member,get outta here.


ha ha, false accuser jano
you actually need collateral to show there is no two everlasting fathers, laugh

heres collateral:
Deu_6:4  Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:



written for you cannot stop lying jano, and of course for others of satans mob:

Joh_8:44  You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by johnw47: 4:38am On Jan 11
Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer


Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon
Watchtower 12/1/1961, p. 717-720
"United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision"



"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which means Destruction. (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; 12:23; 14:19) In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1961, p. 719).

Comment: Abaddon is the Hebrew for the ruling angel in hell. Apollyon is the Greek equivalent. Is it Jesus? No. The New Topical Textbook lists Abaddon and Apollyon as names of Satan. The Bible Knowledge Commentary does the same.





false jw's jesus is satan, of course



let me know if you need the rest of this article written by a christian, cheesy
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 7:27am On Jan 11
It's well in Jesus name!
*Jesus told His followers i'm always with you. Matthew 28:20
*He told John there's NOTHING more to say until God's kingdom comes. Revelation 22:18,19
*Paul said God spoke to ancient Israel through prophets but now to everyone through Jesus. Hebrew 1:1
*Jesus warned Christians through John's Revelations that afterwards demons will speak to people claiming they're Jesus! Revelations 16:13,14 compared to 2Corinthians 11:14
*After the Bible was sealed many started seeing EXRTA visions e.g Mormon, Muhammad till today.
*All these EXTRA visions gave birth to various religious groups contradicting one another!
*Jehovah's Witnesses insisted ONLY reading, studying and meditating THOROUGHLY on the existing documents passed onto our generation from Jesus' Apostles TO SHAPEN OUR WAY OF WORSHIP!
*All are against this wonderful organization that's sincerely saying NO MORE REVELATIONS!
*While all others could only gather INACTIVE members,Jehovah's Witnesses have baptized over 8,000,000 zealous and industrious evangelizers who are fully participating in the preaching and teaching work commissioned by Jesus! Matthew 10:3-39,24:14,28:19,20 2Timothy 4:1-5
*Whoever listens to JWs and accept their teaching will abandon Weapons, Politics, Violence, Immortality and Embrace Love,Joy,Peace, Long suffering, Kindness, Goodness, Mildness, Faith and Self control! Galatians 5:22,23
*Sincere individuals are proving to be WITNESSES of all these events as they're seriously studying with JWs to know how all these was achieved!
*Critics are saying "all these fine WORKS are the results of demons associating with JWs! Matthew 12:24
*demons keep speaking as the serpent in Eden,into the hearing of many and they're banking on this to antagonize JWs.
Nevertheless ALL is WELL in Jesus name! smiley smiley smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 9:18am On Jan 11
johnw47:
Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer


Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon
Watchtower 12/1/1961, p. 717-720
"United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision"



"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which means Destruction. (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; 12:23; 14:19) In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1961, p. 719).

Comment: Abaddon is the Hebrew for the ruling angel in hell. Apollyon is the Greek equivalent. Is it Jesus? No. The New Topical Textbook lists Abaddon and Apollyon as names of Satan. The Bible Knowledge Commentary does the same.





false jw's jesus is satan, of course



let me know if you need the rest of this article written by a christian, cheesy


They are stupid and confuse.... and this ones are leading many poor souls to hell

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 9:52am On Jan 11
zodiakzax:



They are stupid and confuse.... and this ones are leading many poor souls to hell
Where is the result of your godliness? James 2:18-26 undecided undecided undecided
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
Is your God working at all? John 5:17 wink wink wink

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by zodiakzax: 5:42pm On Jan 11
TATIME:
Where is the result of your godliness? James 2:18-26 undecided undecided undecided
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
Is your God working at all? John 5:17 wink wink wink

Stupid pagan... Muslim like you..
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 10:04pm On Jan 11
zodiakzax:


Stupid pagan... Muslim like you..
Wise believer...Born again Christian like you! cheesy cheesy cheesy Luke 6:45
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:29pm On Jan 11
Janosky:
The Bible confirmed brocab is a lying Pharisee.
It's always the same old Watchtower rubbish, Pharisees were people who refuse Christ and His teachings, you refuse Christ with flying colours, so you are a Pharisee, and what do the Pharisees do best, they don't go into the kingdom of Heaven themselves, but shut the doors to those who do want to enter in!
{Matthew 23:13} "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
The JW's don't allow anybody to enter into rest to be with the Lord-because you don't go in yourselves!
Even in darkness it is difficult for you to see-you are arguing against yourself-against the bible-against God Himself, the rubbish you come up with-is unbiblical, your understanding of bible knowledge is nothing to be proud off!
The problem with you JW's you can't search the net for the right answers, because the Watchtower have brainwash you so much-you rely on the Watchtower literature to feed your dead souls.
Janosky:


brocab educated illiterate & lying Pharisee.

Firstly, JWs teach & believe that Jesus is "Everlasting Father" whom the Bible call's "Last Adam" (or second Adam in some Bible versions) because he restored to mankind the blessing of everlasting life which Adam lost due to of sin& disobedience.1 cor15:22,45-47 .
Rom5:12-19

Brocab explained Psalm110:1,2 that Yahweh (Jehovah) says to Jesus the Messiah "sit at my right hand" ,He (Jesus) sits at God's (Jehovah's) right hand".
He emphasized that Jehovah & Jesus are distinct, not the same.

Brocab lying Pharisee & 3 "Gods" pagan worshipper goes further to contradict himself & lied "that Jesus is Jehovah"

A sane person will not tell himself to sit at his own right hand...
The Trinity falsehood removed brocab's sense .
.The Bible confirmed brocab is a lying Pharisee.

"Now When it says that 'everything' has been put under him (Christ) ,it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ' 1cor15:27.


Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 10:59pm On Jan 11
brocab:

It's always the same old Watchtower rubbish, Pharisees were people who refuse Christ and His teachings, you refuse Christ with flying colours, so you are a Pharisee, and what do the Pharisees do best, they don't go into the kingdom of Heaven themselves, but shut the doors to those who do want to enter in!
{Matthew 23:13} "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
The JW's don't allow anybody to enter into rest to be with the Lord-because you don't go in yourselves!
Even in darkness it is difficult for you to see-you are arguing against yourself-against the bible-against God Himself, the rubbish you come up with-is unbiblical, your understanding of bible knowledge is nothing to be proud off!
The problem with you JW's you can't search the net for the right answers, because the Watchtower have brainwash you so much-you rely on the Watchtower literature to feed your dead souls.
But instead of focusing on how this guy annoyed you,it would have made more sense if you responded with points to show everyone that what you're saying is true from God's word.
Here are points
*Lord said to Lord "sit at my right hand".Psalms 110:1 He is saying this is a conversation between TWO different persons NOT one as the TRINITY doctrine asserts!
*@ 1Corinthians 15:27,28 the Bible said Someone put everything under Jesus' feet and at the same time clearly saying when everything is put under Jesus, that person is excluded. Moreover it still goes on to say by the end Jesus will later put Himself under that person again! So what every REASONABLE follower of this thread expects of you is to explain how it is still the same person according to your TRINITY doctrine! NOT how sweet your mouth could be when accusing someone in retaliation! undecided undecided undecided
I'm sorry Sir, this is exactly what made me one of Jehovah's Witnesses, as their always on point whereas others are just claiming what they're saying is from some holy ghost even when it's pointless!
In Islam, our Imams and Sheikhs always claim what they're saying is backed by God's spirit even though it's pointless! Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY group that has clear and straightforward explanations that doesn't leave the listener in the middle of the road!

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:08pm On Jan 11
TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
This is not what it is about-these people are poor, even the Muslims are turning people to follow Allah-the JW's are turning people to follow Jehovah-for food.
I have seen it myself, I was involved in a street ministry feeding the hungry, poor people would sell their souls for food, so don't lie to us, it isn't about Love-starving people would do anything 'say anything just for the food!
{Genesis 25:29-34} Jacob offered to give Esau a bowl of stew in exchange for his birthright (the right to be recognized as firstborn) and Esau agreed.
Like the Muslims, they are looking for numbers, Money builds mega denominations, Churches, it isn't about the People, it's about organisations such as these that wars against the Spirit of God-it's about charity these organisations received from other charity organisations, denominations these day's is tax free
But yet the people are expected not only to accept the food given to them, they are expected to obey all what is needed for the religious denominations they have signed up for.
So don't give us your rubbish-Esau sold His birthright for food-food has more valve then money could buy-denominations these days is all about Money-the food is given through charity from other charity organisations, it's free, these organisations don't lift a finger to feed the poor without a deal made-as long as these people stay with the Watchtower, the Watchtower feeds them, but if these people are not with the Watchtower they die from starvation!
TATIME:
Where is the result of your godliness? James 2:18-26 undecided undecided undecided
Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere bubbling with LOVE,JOY,PEACE,LONGSUFFERING, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, MILDNESS, FAITH,SELF CONTROL! Galatians 5:22,23
Is your God working at all? John 5:17 wink wink wink
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 11:14pm On Jan 11
brocab:

This is not what it is about-these people are poor, even the Muslims are turning people to follow Allah-the JW's are turning people to follow Jehovah-for food.
I have seen it myself, I was involved in a street ministry feeding the hungry, poor people would sell their souls for food, so don't lie to us, it isn't about Love-starving people would do anything 'say anything just for the food!
{Genesis 25:29-34} Jacob offered to give Esau a bowl of stew in exchange for his birthright (the right to be recognized as firstborn) and Esau agreed.
Like the Muslims, they are looking for numbers, Money builds mega denominations, Churches, it isn't about the People, it's about organisations such as these that wars against the Spirit of God-it's about charity these organisations received from other charity organisations, denominations these day's is tax free
But yet the people are expected not only to accept the food given to them, they are expected to obey all what is needed for the religious denominations they have signed up for.
So don't give us your rubbish-Esau sold His birthright for food-food has more valve then money could buy-denominations these days is all about Money-the food is given through charity from other charity organisations, these organisations don't lift a finger to feed the poor without a deal made!
Please the stuff is just too much for me to assimilate, can you be more specific? As in simplifying what you're trying to say?
Please don't allow the anger to overshadow your point this time, just straight to the point pleassssssssssse! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:16pm On Jan 11
The truth always reveals itself!-As long as these people stay with the Watchtower, the Watchtower feeds them, but if these people are not with the Watchtower they die from starvation!
TATIME:
Please the stuff is just too much for me to assimilate, can you be more specific? As in simplifying what you're trying to say?
Please don't allow the anger to overshadow your point this time, just straight to the point pleassssssssssse! embarassed embarassed embarassed
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:21pm On Jan 11
You want points- you people don't listen to points!
TATIME:
But instead of focusing on how this guy annoyed you,it would have made more sense if you responded with points to show everyone that what you're saying is true from God's word.
Here are points
*Lord said to Lord "sit at my right hand".Psalms 110:1 He is saying this is a conversation between TWO different persons NOT one as the TRINITY doctrine asserts!
*@ 1Corinthians 15:27,28 the Bible said Someone put everything under Jesus' feet and at the same time clearly saying when everything is put under Jesus, that person is excluded. Moreover it still goes on to say by the end Jesus will later put Himself under that person again! So what every REASONABLE follower of this thread expects of you is to explain how it is still the same person according to your TRINITY doctrine! NOT how sweet your mouth could be when accusing someone in retaliation! undecided undecided undecided
I'm sorry Sir, this is exactly what made me one of Jehovah's Witnesses, as their always on point whereas others are just claiming what they're saying is from some holy ghost even when it's pointless!
In Islam, our Imams and Sheikhs always claim what they're saying is backed by God's spirit even though it's pointless! Jehovah's Witnesses are the ONLY group that has clear and straightforward explanations that doesn't leave the listener in the middle of the road!
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 11:24pm On Jan 11
brocab:
You want points- you people don't listen to points!
Hmmmmmmmmm
Well that's a lie Sir because it's POINTS that Jehovah's Witnesses used in winning me over to become a CHRISTIAN.
So it's rather the other way round Sir, perhaps you've got NO points at all in your numerous posts. smiley smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by Janosky: 11:27pm On Jan 11
johnw47:
Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon the Destroyer


Jesus is Abaddon and Apollyon
Watchtower 12/1/1961, p. 717-720
"United Against Nations in the Valley of Decision"



"When Jesus was on earth as a man, he was a Hebrew, and now in his capacity as Jehovah's royal Executioner he is called by the Hebrew name Abad'don, which means Destruction. (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; 12:23; 14:19) In the Greek in which the inspired Christian Scriptures were written his similar title is Apollyon, which means Destroyer," (Watchtower, Dec. 1, 1961, p. 719).

Comment: Abaddon is the Hebrew for the ruling angel in hell. Apollyon is the Greek equivalent. Is it Jesus? No. The New Topical Textbook lists Abaddon and Apollyon as names of Satan. The Bible Knowledge Commentary does the same.



Welcome to the world of johnw lying Pharisee.
Copy copy thief thief & plagiarist.

The Interpreter's Bible says:
"Abaddon (Hebrew equivalent of Greek Apollyon meaning 'Destroyer') , however, is an angel not of Satan but of God, performing his work of destruction at God's bidding".

Proof from the holy Bible ..

"For this purpose the son of God was made manifest to DESTROY the works of the devil" 1 John 3:8

"I saw the heaven opened & before me was a white horse whose rider is called Faithful & True... his name is the Word of God. The Armies of Heaven were following him... He threads the winepress of the wrath of God Almighty" Rev 19:11-15.

" Jesus asked him ' What is your name?' "Legion" ,he replied....
And they begged him repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss" Luke 8:30,31


"What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to DESTROY us ?" Luke 4:33,34.

Jesus is the one who leads " the Armies of heaven " (angels of God ) & adjudge who goes to the abyss or not.
As a result, Jesus is the arch angel who has the keys of the Abyss.
No prisoner holds the keys to the prison cell where he served his punishment.
Therefore, Satan has no keys to the Abyss where he is imprisoned.

Johnw lying Pharisee keeps doing what he knows best- peddle lies & Falsehood.

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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by TATIME: 11:41pm On Jan 11
brocab:
The truth always reveals itself!-As long as these people stay with the Watchtower, the Watchtower feeds them, but if these people are not with the Watchtower they die from starvation!
Hmmmmmmmmm
You just dey fall my hand man!
Well i've been with Jehovah's Witnesses now for at least 5 years after my baptism, and i can tell you that you guessed wrong totally! undecided undecided
We're distributing tracts,magazines,brochures, books and even deluxe Bibles all of high quality materials for FREE! Because we're the ones CONTRIBUTING money ourselves to print this publications.
You're just guessing wrong wrong and wrong brocab! Please investigate matters thoroughly so as to speak on reality, i think that will really catch those you're trying to help for Jesus (as you think)
Remember Jesus said "FISHERS OF MEN" please fishermen are really diligent, industrious and efficient with their work before they can catch REAL fish not just trial and luck business! wink wink wink
1Thessalonians 5:21

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