davidylan:

Most these comments come from forum members tired of having to wade through a minefield of irrelevant atheist commentary on threads opened specifically for theological discussions. Left on their own... most wont even remember you exist.

Out of boredom, let me take on your 3 claims...

1. If atheists dont believe in God then why are they bothered about Ps 14:1?

2. See point 1. What is scary about a hell you dont believe in?

3. That is clearly a true statement.

MacDaddy01:


What did I tell you? Fellis the denier has come!

davidylan:

Oh really? Astounding lying right there.

fellis:
Boohoo, cry me a river.
I haven't seen any unjust ban by maclatunji. Untill I see it I am not critisizing anything.

MacDaddy01:


1) Are you not ashamed of the bigotry of labelling a whole group of people "fools"? Is that fair? Why notopen a thread to show your thoughts about Seun and his atheism? Call him a fool if you dare.

2) Who said that hell is scary?

3)Freedom of speech hypocrisy? hmmm?

fellis:
Boohoo, cry me a river.
I haven't seen any unjust ban by maclatunji. Untill I see it I am not critisizing anything.

MacDaddy01:



lololol....you dont care about muslims? lmao....what is this thread about? What about the numerous arguments on God and Jesus with Vedaxcool and LagosShia in the Islam section? Hypocrisy.. .


Guy, dont let me turn my anger caused by the islamic intolerance on you.....I dont want to land the sledgehammer on you like I did with evolution some weeks ago. Remember then? I landed the sledgehammer and debunked you on evolution.....you ran away from that thread...you were silenced......dont vex me

MacDaddy01:

Who cares about your lies? you're nothing more than another ******** sympathizer and islamist apologist. I thought that there was hope for you.

davidylan:
I suppose the issue was your OBVIOUS LIE that the islamic section just appeared without muslim agitation? But of course i am not surprised by your deliberate attempt to change the subject.

by MacDaddy01: 10:17pm

Sweetnecta: @Bright007: maybe you should try to log in, again to be sure the inaccessibility was not because you made a mistake but the moderator representing the truest nature of Islam about non muslims, blocked you. be sure before you broad stroke paint islam the way you did. the moderator does not know if a 'new poster/respondent' is a muslim or not without posting. in your case without accessing the thread.

Abeg, I'm happy that this thread is here. I'm happy that people can see the intolerance coming from that section. wink

by frosbel(m): 10:26pm

Sweetnecta: @Bright007: maybe you should try to log in, again to be sure the inaccessibility was not because you made a mistake but the moderator representing the truest nature of Islam about non muslims, blocked you. be sure before you broad stroke paint islam the way you did. the moderator does not know if a 'new poster/respondent' is a muslim or not without posting. in your case without accessing the thread.

Nonsense !!

What do you call this :

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Intolerant religion for sure .

by MacDaddy01: 10:29pm

frosbel:

Nonsense !!

What do you call this :

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Intolerant religion for sure .

Frosbel, more grease to your elbow. Muslims like Sweetnecta like to ignore blatant intolerance from their endz

Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany's first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn't like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.

In private, he was moving in a different direction. He devoured works questioning the existence of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Then "I said to myself: You've dealt with Christianity and Judaism but what about your own religion? Can you take it for granted that Muhammad existed?"

He had no doubts at first, but slowly they emerged. He was struck, he says, by the fact that the first coins bearing Muhammad's name did not appear until the late 7th century -- six decades after the religion did.

He traded ideas with some scholars in Saarbrücken who in recent years have been pushing the idea of Muhammad's nonexistence. They claim that "Muhammad" wasn't the name of a person but a title, and that Islam began as a Christian heresy.

Prof. Kalisch didn't buy all of this. Contributing last year to a book on Islam, he weighed the odds and called Muhammad's existence "more probable than not." By early this year, though, his thinking had shifted. "The more I read, the historical person at the root of the whole thing became more and more improbable," he says.

He has doubts, too, about the Quran. "God doesn't write books," Prof. Kalisch says.

Some of his students voiced alarm at the direction of his teaching. "I began to wonder if he would one day say he doesn't exist himself," says one. A few boycotted his lectures. Others sang his praises.

Prof. Kalisch says he "never told students 'just believe what Kalisch thinks' " but seeks to teach them to think independently. Religions, he says, are "crutches" that help believers get to "the spiritual truth behind them." To him, what matters isn't whether Muhammad actually lived but the philosophy presented in his name.

This summer, the dispute hit the headlines. A Turkish-language German newspaper reported on it with gusto. Media in the Muslim world picked up on it.

Germany's Muslim Coordinating Council withdrew from the advisory board of Prof. Kalisch's center. Some Council members refused to address him by his adopted Muslim name, Muhammad, saying that he should now be known as Sven.

German academics split. Michael Marx, a Quran scholar at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences, warned that Prof. Kalisch's views would discredit German scholarship and make it difficult for German scholars to work in Muslim lands. But Ursula Spuler-Stegemann, an Islamic studies scholar at the University of Marburg, set up a Web site called solidaritymuhammadkalisch.com and started an online petition of support.

Alarmed that a pioneering effort at Muslim outreach was only stoking antagonism, Münster University decided to douse the flames. Prof. Kalisch was told he could keep his professorship but must stop teaching Islam to future school teachers.

The professor says he's more determined than ever to keep probing his faith. He is finishing a book to explain his thoughts. It's in English instead of German because he wants to make a bigger impact. "I'm convinced that what I'm doing is necessary. [size=15pt]There must be a free discussion of Islam,"[/size] he says.

brentkruge: ^^^^^^^^

You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

brentkruge: ^^^^^^^^

You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

by Sweetnecta: 9:38pm On Aug 10
^^^^^probably is not absolute.

Allah may just have revealed his insidious heart.

If Muhammad [sa] why was Yathrib now Madina and the jews know the history of The Madinan [sa].

by Sweetnecta: 9:38pm On Aug 10
^^^^^probably is not absolute.

Allah may just have revealed his insidious heart.

If Muhammad [sa] why was Yathrib now Madina and the jews know the history of The Madinan [sa].

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Re: Why Has The Moderator Banned Posts On When Someone Insults Islam: How To Behave by brentkruge: 10:37pm On Aug 10
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You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? [/b]the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

by brentkruge: 10:37pm On Aug 10
^^^^^^^^

You see why Islam is scared of inquiries? the moment it opens its doors to researches and critical thinking, many things just dont add up. From this its easy to see why censorship is the order of the day in Islamic Countries, Islamic States and Islamic Boards like this one.

This is an Islamic Scholar that is begining to apply critical thinking to Islam, the doubts have started piling up!

So what is your other username?

Sweetnecta: @Brentkruge:
Please explain your reason for the bold and the what wrote following it, because it does not fit what i wrote, supporting or criticizing except that is tangential to it, providing a window in my heart about your ability to see this the need of my statement?

brentkruge:

Why would a free discussion on Islam be banned? Muslim "claim" sensitivity from any issue they are uncomfortable with. The frequent banning and hidden posts in this section is a simple example. Are you guys afraid that more people will reach the startling conclusion of this prof? You can't keep the lid on this censorship for long.

Actions speak louder than words you know!

vedaxcool: @muslims; don't u think we should all ignore this thread and allow broda david and sis macdaddy to feast on each other a little longer? I mean their babble should be enough entertainment to read; united in their hatred for us, yet still disunited in their hatred for each other . . . I don't about u but sometimes silence remains the best answer for this kind of people . . . .

fellis:
Lmao.
Are you doing itkaf or something? Where have you been hiding?