Kenya will curve out a small country out of Somalia to create Africa's newest state by early next year. The new state will be called Jubaland and will act as a buffer zone between Kenya and Somalia for security purposes. Read more
In addition to Somaliland and Puntland, it appears Somalia may now be home to a brand new semiautonomous region, Azania -- confusingly also sometimes called Jubaland. Alex Thurston writes:

Jubaland/Azania now has a president, former Somalia Defence Minister Professor Mohamed Abdi Gandhi, who has said a main goal of his administration will be to defeat al Shabab, Somalia’s Islamic rebel movement. This, Kenya’s Daily Nation reports, is one of the driving goals of the new region’s creation, but Somalia’s neighbors disagree on whether this tactic is a wise one:

"The idea to create an autonomous region near the Kenyan border is hinged on the reason that it will prevent the movement of al Shabaab extremists within the region.

Thurston also notes that a recent WikiLeaks cable discussed Kenyan support -- with funding from China -- for the creation of Jubaland as a buffer state in early 2010.

The news doesn't really raise the prospects of Somalia ever really being reunified under the control of Mogadishu. On the other hand, given the relative stability of Somaliland and Puntland, there's a reasonable case to be made that the creation of more smaller, locally controlled regions might be a better option.

But unlike those states, Azania/Jubaland appears to be very much the creation of Nairobi. Combining this latest news with recent reports of Kenyan military activity across the Somali border, it's starting to look like Kenya is joining the civil war in Southern Somalia in a very big way.

its not an independent country. we have regions in somalia, those regions make up somalia.

LINK??
That wouldn't be so bad. Esp if they move the refugee camps to Jubaland.Afterall, they are gateways to terrorists and weapons.

pendo89: LINK??
That wouldn't be so bad. Esp if they move the refugee camps to Jubaland.Afterall, they are gateways to terrorists and weapons.

somalis own north kenya. we are 90 percent of the population in northern kenya.


as long as kenya wants to lay claim to somali territory the somalis will be in kenya.

because each somali woman has 7 kids and we only marry each other we will take over kenya in the next 50 years. add to that the negroid kenyan muslims who are loyal to us. lmao


did u know the first several attacks in kenya aftet u decided to envade us were by bantu kenyan muslims. they are loyal to somalis. so bye bye kenyan negroid. u will be a slave in ur own country like u were a slave for us before.

smh

pendo89: smh

u kno what i said was true.

negroid ur time us almost up

nah, sorry.
Just tired of the same old tune you keep blowing,Tune ur guitar and tell me something new that will make me tremble.

pendo89: nah, sorry.
Just tired of the same old tune you keep blowing,Tune ur guitar and tell me something new that will make me tremble.

am pakin 9inches

Why are Somalis so racist? A country with am homogeneous ethnic and religious entity, fails to remain one stable country and still insults other Africans. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

gidiMonsta: Why are Somalis so racist? A country with am homogeneous ethnic and religious entity, fails to remain one stable country and still insults other Africans. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

the reason why somalia is unstable is cause of foreign meddling, the AU soldiers who have HIV AIDS who look like monkeys are in our country and should leave. We should leave this shiiiity AU inshallah. too many monkeys in the AU with HIV.


as to why we are racist?

RACIST MEANS THEIR IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH US.

WE LOOK DOWN ON YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR HISTORY, LOOKS AND YOUR DESEASES THAT YOUR INTRODUCE TO MANKIND

not good enough.
same old boring slave story. Tell us something mindblowing,

pendo89: not good enough.
same old boring slave story. Tell us something mindblowing,

Your a slave in your own country. The president of somalia already is ready to negotiate with alshabaab. Your aids ridden monkey kenyan soldiers are dying and being killed for no reason. The prime minister is for pro greater somalia and so is the president and parliament.


u will always be a slave for somalia

perhaps they should give that land to the ogadeni ppl.

ogaden is a somali tribe. lmao

kails u should kno better. i need to teach u more about my people.

ur slippin sweety

The quicker you get rid of these Somalis, the better

somalia5: ogaden is a somali tribe. lmao

kails u should kno better. i need to teach u more about my people.

ur slippin sweety

dude. i know...but they should live on that land and stop trying to fight the ethiopian gov't/

its win-win.

*Kails*:


dude. i know...but they should live on that land and stop trying to fight the ethiopian gov't/

its win-win.

they wana be with their somali brethren. they dont wana be part of ethiopia.

greater somalia will always be every somalis goal.


ur asssss is mine kails

The people of Somalia will forever be grateful to Kenya for helping them liberate Kismayu and other towns in the south of the war-torn country.
This is the passionate message to Kenyans from Somalia President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud.

“The Somalia government is truly grateful to Kenya for the contribution it has made to peace and stability in Somalia since 1991 up to recently when the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF), the African Union Mission to Somalia (Amisom) contingent and our national army liberated Kismayu,” the Somalia president says.

Speaking to The Standard On Sunday through his government’s Ambassador to Kenya Mohamed Ali Nur, President Mohamud said Somalia had reached “the lowest of the lowest,” but was confident that with Kenya’s and the international community’s support, the country is on track to recovery.

He appreciated KDF for helping the Somalia national army break Al-Shabaab and expressed confidence the few towns remaining under the influence of the fleeing AlShabaab would also be liberated soon.

“The KDF soldiers shed their blood in helping us liberate Somalia and we will never forget that,” he said. He also thanked the other Amisom supported countries of Uganda, Burundi, and Djibouti for sending their sons and daughters, some of who lost their lives in the war effort to bring back law and order to Somalia.

Civil war

Nur recalled that since 1991 when former President Mohamed Siad Barre’s government collapsed, Kenyans living close to the border had welcomed Somalis running away from the civil war and received them in their homes even before Dadaab and Kakuma refugee camps were built.

“We will never forget such gestures and the charity of Kenyans when they received our people with open arms and open hearts,” Nur says.

As the Somalia President is busy preparing to appoint a new Prime Minister and forward his name to Parliament for approval, he is also scorching rumours that the neighbouring Kenya will have leeway to install local temporary administration under the watch of KDF troops.

Mohamud is further assuring that the seaport city of Kismayu liberated from the Al Shabaab militia by KDF and the Amisom contingent will soon have an inclusive local administration. He says the Mogadishu-based government will widely consult with stakeholders, particularly the council of elders in Kismayu before naming an interim administration.

The new Kismayu administration would be inclusive and local council of elders would be involved to come-up with a broad-based initiative.

Kenya hosts more than 500,000 refugees from Somalia in the refugee camps, and Nur says his government appreciates the care.

He recalled talks, which helped establish peace through elders meetings in Mbagathi that saw the election of the late President Abdulahi Yusuf and 275 Members of Parliament, resulting in the creation of the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) in 2004 until August this year, when President Mohamud was elected. He says his government has appealed to the international community, donors and United Nations agencies to provide humanitarian assistance to refugees, especially those who fled Kismayu inside Somalia so that they don’t come to Kenya.

The impact of refugee influx and the sending of Kenyan forces into Somalia have severely strained the country’s resources.

Addressing the UN General Assembly in New York last week as Kismayu was being liberated, President Kibaki appealed to the UN and the international community to help in the resettlement of refugees back to Somalia, once stability is restored.

Nur says the next move is to establish interim administrations in the liberated areas before they can organise to hold elections and vote independently after law and order is established for the reconstruction programme to start.

But efforts to set up an administration in Kismayu could face a greater challenge than the military operation to control it. Since 1991, Barre’s military commanders, warlords, and Islamic and clan militias have fought to control the port with varying degrees of success.

Clan interests

Al Shabaab in Kismayu managed clan interests among more powerful Darod (Marehan and Ogaden), Harti (Majerteen, Warsengeli, and Dhulbahante) and Hawiye (Hawaadle and Sheikhal) clans, and the less powerful Bantu and Dir clans.

The Somali government must perform a delicate balancing act to fill the power vacuum successfully amid serious clan tensions. It appears that some elements of the former TFG in co-operation with Igad, AU and UN authorities want to re-unify the regions of lower and middle Juba and Gedo under a renewed Jubaland administration (it also has been referred to as Azania State).

At a conference in June held in Karen, Nairobi, representatives from different groups in Kismayu discussed power-sharing among in the proposed Jubaland state.

Representatives included the then TFG deputy interior minister Abdi Ali Hassan, Gen Abdullahi Sheikh Ismail “Fartaag” of Gedo Defense Forces (Hirale’s forces), much touted Jubaland/Azania president Mohamed Abdi Mohamad alias “Ghandhi”, Sheikh Mohamed Yusuf Mohamud alias “Aw-Libaax” of Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jamaa and Maalim Mohamed Ibrahim of Ras Kamboni Brigade.

Though this initiative has not been approved by the Somali parliament, it raises concerns in its exclusion of some regional clans and past controversial attempts to establish clan-based governments in meetings held outside Somalia and with dubious representatives from the involved clans.

Kenya sees Jubaland as a “buffer zone” against violent extremism in setting up the new administration. Al Shabaab’s heavy taxation and forced recruitment in Kismayu were unpopular, but communities would not welcome leaders consumed by their own personal interests.

The port in the Somali government’s backyard in Mogadishu has long been plagued by corruption, which further points to the need of a credible authority in Kismayu and more broadly in Jubaland.

Kismayu was Al Shabaab’s last major stronghold on account of the revenue that the group has been generating through exporting charcoal and levying taxes on imported goods. Tonnes of charcoal remain abandoned at the port, after the militia fled from the might of the allied forces.

Businesses in Kismayu are re-opening and the locals’ daily routine is slowly returning to normal. KDF is in control of the port, police station, port city factory, former state house and the two airports.

The Somali government is also preparing mediations between the city’s stakeholders in order to establish an inclusive local administration. President Mohamud has been getting regular briefings on the situation on the ground, in Kenya and from Amisom and is satisfied with the progress so far.

The Government also appreciates the support being provided by the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (Igad) to jointly come-up with a suitable framework to build a local administration.

Nur said the talks between all stakeholders in regard to Kismayu stability that were held in Karen, Nairobi, were productive, adding the guidelines that were crafted will be of useful in setting-up administration.

He said a major conference will be held in Somalia to come up with best leadership structure.

Nur says he just came back from Somalia and there is already a big change. Somalis from the Diaspora are returning home and engaging in construction of big hotels, offices and residential buildings. There has been a great improvement in security and the biggest indicator of the closer links to Kenya and the strengthening of the bonds between the two countries is that a year ago there were only three flights a week from Nairobi to Mogadishu. Today there are three flights a day booked in advance.

“We can see light at the end of the tunnel now. We are very optimistic. We want to feed ourselves soon. We have the longest coastline in Africa and two big rivers. We used to export fruits and seafood to Europe and other African countries. As soon as peace is restored, we want the people to go back and help in reconstruction and recovery,” says Nur.

The people of Somalia and their government’s optimism does not seem misplaced, thanks to Kenya’s support.http://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2012/oct/26278/we_will_forever_be_grateful_says_somalia_president.aspx

You are at liberty to imagine all you want, but if somalis think they can claim anything kenyan, they are in for a rude shock.Forget the few corrupted guys whom you think represent kenya.Everything changed.
I am just glad that you guys like occupying one place,thereby making it easy to flush you out.You will run faster than the elshababs from Kismayu.
It wouldn't even take a day.Only hours.

pendo89:

You are at liberty to imagine all you want, but if somalis think they can claim anything kenyan, they are in for a rude shock.Forget the few corrupted guys whom you think represent kenya.Everything changed.
I am just glad that you guys like occupying one place,thereby making it easy to flush you out.You will run faster than the elshababs from Kismayu.
It wouldn't even take a day.Only hours.

lol

Lol @ the kenya vs. Somalia cyber war....on nairaland......



-_-

Lmao



jamaica vs somalia

somalia5:

Your a slave in your own country. The president of somalia already is ready to negotiate with alshabaab. Your aids ridden monkey kenyan soldiers are dying and being killed for no reason. The prime minister is for pro greater somalia and so is the president and parliament.

u will always be a slave for somalia

You are a person!

Tell me what Somalia has going for it and what are Somalians achievement!

Mr. person at it again...

Sagamite:

You are a person!

Tell me what Somalia has going for it and what are Somalians achievement!

I COULD LIST A WHOLE PAGE. BUT LET ME START WITH SAYING WE DONT LOOK LIKE MONKEYS OR OTHER APES THE CLIMB TREES. FURTHER MORE WE SEE BESTALITY AS SOMETHING TO BE FROWNED UPON.

Kails where are you?

Somebody is just about to become minced meat.

somalia5:
I COULD LIST A WHOLE PAGE. BUT LET ME START WITH SAYING WE DONT LOOK LIKE MONKEYS OR OTHER APES THE CLIMB TREES. FURTHER MORE WE SEE BESTALITY AS SOMETHING TO BE FROWNED UPON.

You are a person!

List just half the page. I am waiting, I have the patience.

Go on, let us hear.

I think somebody got repatriated.

pendo89: I think somebody got repatriated.

He is probably the smartest but yet the most stewpid person I have come across on NL. He knew when to run.

He was smart to know he has to run from me from the very first blow instead of facing the intellectual slaughtering.

Many fucktards will do well learning from him.

Or maybe he thought I was Ethiopian. That strikes fear in the heart of an average Somali.

lol @ pendo instigating.

Sagamite what's up hun?

Hahaha, I have been waiting for somebody to crush his online sugaristic ego.
From Ayanle,Warya,Ali to somali 1,2,3,4,5 and now 6.Oh he's opened a thread on somali babes pics under a new username.
Damn dude! man up and do what you have been asked to do.>Somalia's achievements.
Don't you want to hear Kail's?

pendo89: Hahaha, I have been waiting for somebody to crush his online sugaristic ego.
From Ayanle,Warya,Ali to somali 1,2,3,4,5 and now 6.Oh he's opened a thread on somali babes pics under a new username.
Damn dude! man up and do what you have been asked to do.>Somalia's achievements.
Don't you want to hear Kail's?

lol.

that's between he and sagamite.
i want no parts of this e-beef. lolz

can't believe he fled to romance section on seeing sagamite!